August 2013 Chemo Sisters
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Beeve read my above post for some of my exeriences with my hair. Day 15 strands started falling out. Its day 21 now I still have hair no bald spots but thin. I guess for me keeping my hair as long as possible was important to me. It has also helped prepare me. There was a little tenderness at times also. Hope you find whats best for you. Take care
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Thank you for all the welcomes! I go for my blood draw and dr appt tomorrow before round 2 on Wednesday. I am wondering about anti-nausea meds. I have the steroids and I did take some right before chemo, but my dr did not give me any to take home. I just do the Neupagen shots for 7 days after each cyle. I did not have any severe SE after round 1, but I did do home remedies when my tummy felt queasy.
Shaved head going OK so far. Funny thing is feeling a little like "pony tail head" almost all the time. I went to a baseball game yesterday, wore a floppy hat, and it was just like any other game. Still looking for a wig which I will probably just wear to go out to nice events and when I go back to work.
I see some teachers on here and am wondering how you do it. I am taking the first semester off. Between sick days, differential pay, and disability I should be getting the same amount of money. I was very resistant at first (I hate taking sick days) but after talking it over with doctor and principals, I see how it is actually better to take off so that students have a steady teacher throughout. It is very strange for me to not get prepared for the upcoming school year!
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Hi Tanya,
I'm waiting to see if I can cope with teaching and chemo. What is differential and disability pay? We just have sick pay which is topped up every 5 years. I have about 50 days left but no top up for 3 years. The only alternative is Leave without Pay. I dont want to lose all my sick pay in case this thing comes back. I teach seniors who are just about to leave school. School finishes for them in November. I've got to drag myself to school because there is no substitute who can teach the last topic of the year to get them through the assessment. I feel I can't let them down. The other thing I feel is that perhaps it is not a bad thing for them to see someone dealing with illness/hard times. The 'funny' side of my diagnosis was that the day I was diagnosed I had to come back to class and show a film for the unit I teach on 'Death, dying, grief and loss'. I sat through watching a guy die of cancer on the film, sitting at the back of the class, going through the list of signs of shock and grief that I'd just taught the kids...yes my mouth is dry, my muscles are tense or shaking...
So I figure, perhaps when my hair is gone and its obvious, we might have some good conversations. I feel that there is a job to be done here for the kids...it's a witness to the fact human beings are tough, vulnerable ...yes... my voice started to shake when I told them I would be away on and off for the rest of the year...but we can get through these things and still laugh...and for those with a religious faith.. you can still believe even when God seems to have gone AWOL.
Well that's the noble ideal
. I guess when I'm feeling #@%$, I'll just stay home!
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I ladies, I am now an August Chemo sister too. I start my first tx on Wed, 8/21. I will be doing the AC-T tx for Stage 3 Breast Cancer. I'm pretty scared, Im 39 years old and have three boys 10, 8, & 5. I'm trying to be really strong for them, but it's hard. I unfortunately know too many people who have gone thru this already and they are trying to keep me positive and give me tips on eating, exercising, hair loss, etc..., I will keep you posted on how I do, hope it's okay since we are leaving the next day to go camping
God Bless all of you!
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HVV, what day post treatment are you?
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Gashgold, You are and will continue to be, a great inspiration for those kids. God takes what satan meant for evil and changes it to good so we can glorify Him. Im not sure if everywhere is the same but here I applied for medical leave and after Im off for one week (we can use sick pay or vacation pay that week) then short tern disability kicks in I think its 60% of your pay. I live in Michigan USA.
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I began on August 1. For stage 3 with act. AC x 4 and T x12.
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My experience first chemo treatment on 8/16: 8:00 a.m. met with the MO to review my staging studies, no metastasis...yay. After the MO nurse accessed my port it was off to the infusion area. 9:00am - 10:20am fluids, then around 10:30am or so took Emend and Decadron, about 10:45am the nurse gave my Adriamycin push via syringe only took 15 mins, then Cytoxal via IV drip took 30 mins. Seemed strange it only took 45 mins to administer chemo meds..but oh well.
I got home around 1:00 p.m. felt fine until 3:00 p.m. started feeling nausea, took a nap for a few hours then around 6:00 p.m. the nausea was extreme so I call the doc and of course got the answering service. The on call doc called back at 6:38pm asked what chemo drugs and anti-nausea meds I received, said she would check my chart and call me back. Well after 5 more calls to the answering service I never heard back from the on call doc...I was very frustrated at this point. I called the ER and explained the situation they told me to come in. On the way my MO called the house and my sister told her I was on the way to the ER, turned out the answering service was annoyed that the on call doc never returned my call and called my MO at home. MO called in a prescript for Zofran and notified the ER that I was on my way. Make a long story short, they took me right away gave my Zofran that didn't work so they gave me Reglan which did help, they also did a CT scan of the brain which was negative. This was all on day one and not what I expected at all. The nausea is now minimal I'm taking the Compazine every 6 hours as needed.
I haven't noticed any pain yet from the Neulasta shot on Saturday. Taking Claritin.
Hope everyone else is holding up ok.
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Gashgold,
I know exactly what you mean about not letting the seniors down! I found out about my cancer when I got home on the last day of school before summer vacation. I was hoping to go back on time, but then I found out I would need chemo. I was to teach seniors I had last year for their IB exams, but another teacher will now take over. They cannot have a substitute so a teacher who has taught the course previously will take over.
As far as pay goes, we get 10 sick days a year and they can pile up every year. I have about 1 1/2 months worth of days. When those are up we go into differential pay which is the difference between my pay and a sub. This can go up to 100 days. I'll be back before those are up. Luckily I bought cancer and disability insurance from an outside company in the past and will be receiving benefits from them.
I am starting to hear from work colleagues which is nice. Positive vibes are the best to help us all get through this!
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Peace, I told my sister that her words of encouragement were posted on this site and that they were helpful. We have to keep one another lifted up.
Carol, it's unfortunate that someone helped themselves to your stuff; sometimes people are just horrible!!! Does your car have navigation? and is your home address listed under "Go Home"? Not to scare you, but my car was stolen then 6 months later my home was broken into. The police informed me that when someone steals your car with your home address in the navigation system, usually the thieves break into your home. If this is the case, an alarm system is needed.
I know the same people who stole my car broke into my home because they left behind a notebook that I'm 100% sure was in my car . . . it was their calling card. Take a breath . . .
To help with fingers + toes during the Taxotere infusion, instead of using the hard, frozen ice packs from the center, for my hands I'm going to bring a medium-size plastic bowl and fill it with ice water.
For those who don't like or drink a lot of water, try 100% coconut water . . . it's great for hydration.
I hope today was a good one for everyone. Now, I'm going to walk 2 miles . . .
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Hello are you looking for me
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Sharon what did you find out?
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I'm so sorry to read how many of us had rough weekends! And I DO thank God that I had the strength, family support and an appetite to get me thru all that had to be done today. French fries, who would have guessed?
No, it is not that I am eating so great re: my counts, it's just that they have not checked them post infusion yet! That will be Wednesday. Probable say omg," and shoot me up on the spot (will take Claritin tomorrow just in case - be prepared, that's my motto!)
FMGDTR, my car wouldn't know a nav system if it ran over one, Lol! another unexpected blessing, cuz most folks have their cars wired to open their garages and once the car is stolen forget to reset it. But, they DO have my purse with all my ID, home address, etc., so I'm more worried about ID theft than anything else. And it's partly my own fault, I locked the purse in the car cuz I was just running in to get my dd from work...
Isn't that the worst? When we know we've been stupid or careless?
Anyway, I sure hope and pray for a peaceful night full of potato-happy tummies. I, for one, and going to munch graham crackers when I wake up. Treat this like some bizarre form of morning sickness! -
Shalimar630, thinking good thoughts for your 1st treatment tomorrow, like everything else on this walk, the fear is worse than the reality. You can do it and I too drank about 3-4 liters of water plus Gatorade and an occasional 7up for several days and I think it helped.🌟
Peace777, good luck on your 2nd treatment tomorrow, I hope all goes well and yea 1/2 way through🌟🌟 -
Sharonannebaker, my icing regimen was as follows:
For my hands, I bought cheapo gloves from the dollar store and cut off the finger portion from below the knuckle. I brought a cooler from home and filled it with ice from the infusion center. I also brought latex gloves, (or any form fitting gloves) and put them on, then put the cheapo gloves over them, with my latex covered fingers sticking out of the gloves. Then, during the taxotere portion, I had the tips of my fingers immersed in the cooler with some water and lots of ice.
For my toes, I brought zip lock baggies and filled them with ice chips. I put on very thin socks, and used tape from the infusion center to secure the zip lock baggies to the ends of my feet, covering my toe nails.
I also chewed on ice chips, to prevent or reduce the # of mouth sores. I got really sick of ice chips, so I froze gatorade in an ice tray, and sucked on that. During my last 2 treatments, I brought frozen strawberries and chewed on those. You will need a friend with you to help feed you, because your hands will be immersed in ice.
You need to do the icing starting 15 min before the taxotere portion, till 15 min after! I have to admit I wasn't always vigilent about the 15 min after part, because by then, you are freezing!!!
Also, word to the wise.....use the bathroom right before you start this!!
This is a HUGE pain in the butt, but my I had no problems with my nails at all, and had very few mouth sores. At first, the nurses in my infusion center thought I was crazy, coming in with all my stuff. But, they became believers when I had no problems!!!
HVV, yes, I am an attorney. Where are you doing your treatments? I treated locally, but I see an oncologist at the Sloane Kettering facility in Sleepy Hollow.
2 other tips...If you have a port, put on emla (lidocaine) creme about an hour before your infusion, and then put a piece of saran wrap over it so it doesn't stain your clothers. The emla creme really numbs the port area so you don't feel the stick.
As for you hair falling out, next time you are at the hospital, ask for a few of the hair nets the surgeons and nurses wear in the operating room, and wear them when you go to sleep. They are breathable and are easy to sleep in. THis prevents your hair from getting all over you bedsheets and pillows.
Good luck!
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Darn, it would seem I am coming down with a bug, a cold. I thought it was just allergies till a couple of hours ago when my ears and throat got involved. I'm not overly worried but I don't want it to muck up things - I'm supposed to go to a very personally important wedding this weekend and then another chemo next Tuesday. If I get a cold will they postpone the Chemo? I just don't like the schedule getting mucked up over this.
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Tonya845, glad you found us here, it is a great thread with a lot of wonderful women like you and I going through this crap!!!!!!! I will be praying for you on Wednesday as you start your Tx, it is scary but you can do it, I am stage 3C and on the same Tx and my first was last Thursday. What is your Dx? IDC or ILC? We are here for you please keep us posted.Big hug for Wednesday.
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Aww thank you gavinsgrandma!! My Dx was IDC but at first they thought is could have been IBC by the way it's progressing so aggressively. Whatever it is, I plan on kicking some butt, I have no other choice for those three boys of mine! Thanks so much for the prayers. I'll keep you posted
Tonya
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Carol, you may want to put an alert on the 3 credit reporting bureaus, letting them know that your pocketbook was stolen including your driver's ID, etc. I'm sure you know to cancel your debit/credit cards, etc. Apologies the bank officer is coming out of me.
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beeve, we'll touch and agree that you will be fine and nothing will prevent from you attending the wedding or anything else. I have allergies, too. I felt nasal congestion and popping ears; I took something and felt fine.
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After washing the dishes, my plan is to make lemon, sage + ginger lotion massage candles. Then I hope to sleep like a baby!
What is your hobby or something that you really enjoy doing?
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I do all sorts of creative things but lately I've been making hats or planning hats, either sewn or crocheted. I never liked knitting... Now that I know my time is nigh, I'm working like crazy on a crocheted hat from some really soft yarn I just got, but there are already many possabilities lined up.
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Well folks, my 1st T/C starts Monday. I had my baseline blood test today and was told that my counts are excellent. I have been eating that diet I posted since I found out I had breast cancer. I had lost exactly 20 pounds since I started. I need to lose 15 more, but would have to buy new clothes. Nice thought but expensive idea.
I was prescribe Zofran and Phenergan for nausea to take at home and Dexamethasone to take Sunday at 8 a.m. and 12 p.m. then again the day after infusion. I was told they would give it to me on Monday through my IV. I do not have to have a port! Praise the lord. I have big veins and I was so happy to hear that. My veins are big probably because I've been drinking 3/4 gallon of water every day. I am just praying that I won't have severe SE because of my age.
Is Zofran an antidepressive/anti-anxiety medication? If so, I'm already taking Effexor. I bought Claratin to take for the neulasta pain. I've heard it works. I'll let you know.
TANYA and GASHGOLD, My MO told me today to not go to school (I just sub) the first week of my chemo, but that it should be ok to go the next two weeks until my next infusion. The reason is that our bodies are so prone to pick up infections, some of which can kill us. If you are young, your doctor might tell you differently, but I am almost 69, so it might be advice just for us "elderly" folks.
God speed to Shalimar for your first treatment tomorrow and to Peace, with your second treatment tomorrow. My 1st is Monday, so we're not far apart.
CGESQ- Thanks for the icing instructions. My husband and I were thinking about taking a small cooler with ice, but I was going to use those blue ice packs to use on my feet and hands. Did you keep ice on your feet the whole time? Do they just give one chemical at a time? It is the taxotere that bothers hands and feet. It was so cold in that office today, I doubt if anyone needs any ice. No kidding.We nearly froze.
SAB (sharonannebaker or Sherry)
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Hi ladies,
Well today was my first I fusion, I'm doing okay, i woke up with a slight headache, before treatment, as I was taking the cytoxin, it really got bad. i took a couple excedren , and was told not to take anything with aspirin, and that headache is a side effect, so it's pretty intense. I did have to take an anti nausea pill. My ox told me brush teeth with soft tooth brush and the to mix 1 teaspoon salt, one teaspoon baking soda, 8 oz water, rince 3 times a day for mouth sores. I did take a nap, wish the headache would go away. I understand the anxiety, I have a port, the worst part for me, was seriously the smell of the saline.
Carol that is terrible, I hope the catch him(or her).
Sharnonnbaker, your not to old, I was at a breast cancer meeting, one of the ladies told us the dr said she was to old to undergo this treatment, she said NO I. Doing it. She had just completed her. 16week cycle
Hope all are doing well. God Bless -
CGesq: yep, me too. I'm treated at Columbia. Loss of control is hard for me. i think especially as an esq.
Hope all are well tonite. I'm feeling better. Not great but much better after mild dinner.
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Hi Ladies, if you don't mind I will join the group. I just found out today that I will have chemo, we go to see the MO tomorrow for more info. I got my initial diagnosis in May, had BMX in June with complications that necessitated another emergency surgery. Initially they said I had DCIS and IDC with mets to two nodes. There were two tumors in my right breast, and DCIS in the left. They did the path on one tumor and sent the other for oncotype testing. Thankfully they did that because the tumor they sent for pathology was ER/PR+. The other tumor did not get sent for pathology (the doctor said when they look the same they only send one). The oncotype test showed that the second tumor is triple negative with a score of 57. So now I am facing the same treatments some of you ladies are.......4 rounds of AC and then 12 rounds of Taxol. Will find out tomorrow when I will start, might not be until early September because my daughter is getting married on 9/1 in Charleston, SC so we will be traveling. The MO said she would like to start the treatment in the next week or so, but we will talk tomorrow. I am scheduled to go for a MUGA scan on Thursday to check my heart function. I haven't told my daughter yet about the new developments; I won't do that until after they get back from their honeymoon. She still thinks everything is just fine....
So I'm glad to "meet" all of you, and look forward to getting to know you all better. Hugs to all of you from Western Pennsylvania!
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Beeve, I crochet too but nothing very complicated ; ) right now am making myself a cap out of 100% undyed baby alpaca, cuz I'm allergic to lanolin. It can get cold enough here in Texas, lol!
Anyway, please get your wbc's checked before going to that wedding!
FMGdtr, thanks for the bankerly advice! I do need to call the credit bureaus! -
Welcome, Rhody & Tonya. Wishing you well.
Rhody, I too have the same chemo infusion treatment plan. I go for my second dose of AC this Thursday.
I attended the Look Good Feel Good class from the American Cancer Society this evening. It was a nice small class of 5 ladies (and this is including me). I found it really nice to meet other women in person with similar experiences. One lady and I exchanged contact info. She is also in her 30s with kids and same treatment regimen. One blade in her 70s started with a double mastectomy and said that it was a breeze. I sure hope that thus is the case for me too. I am dreading the double mastectomy surgery especially since I experienced so much pain with the "simple" port surgery.
This class was the first time I actually had a conversation face to face with another breast cancer patient. The infusion rooms at MDAnderson are quite private and I have someone go with me so there has not been an opportunity to talk to anyone other than the nurses. The class was good though I do wear makeup regularly so the only new makeup trick learned was how to draw on eyebrows. The cosmotologist did make a recommendation to pick up disposable mascara brushes from Sally's beauty supply instead of teising the brush that comes woth the mascara. I enjoyed the demo on tying scarfs and will likely go to YouTube to find additional ideas. I speak in public and don't know that I will be able to do so bald. I hav a wig and plan on practicing the scarf ties. Has anyone found an really good YouTube videos on this topic that you would recommend?
Carol, sorry to hear about the car. That just sucks!
Today was the first day of school for the kids. It is nice to get into a routine again. My husband really stepped it up and took care of dinner, had the kids bathed and all homework completed while I was at the class tonight. Overall, a great day today. -
Sherry,
Those blue ice packs won't really work. The ice has to be on each and every nail, so you are better off with zip lock baggies with ice chips that can be shaped/molded to your feet.
Also, the chemo session starts with pre-meds. I got benadryl, steriods, and anti-nausea meds before the actual chemo. You can ask the nurses to give you a heads up about a half an hour before the taxotere starts, so you can start getting everything ready. The icing is a pain, but it really works. The taxotere portion is about an hour, (at least it was for me) so you will need to do the icing for about an hour and a half total.
My infusion center had heated blankets that you could have for the asking. When you start to get cold, ask for one. It feels great!
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Cutiecool, I asked the MO today if my age was the reason I was told, at first, that I didn't need chemo, and he assured me it wasn't. It was the size of the tumor, but after thinking about it and talking to my other doctor, they all agreed that it was the right thing I have triple negative breast cancer and it's grade 3, very aggressive, and because when my pathology didn't find any nodes in the tissue that was removed under my arm, they realize that there possibly could be cancer cells in the lymph nodes. They don't expect that to be true, but just in case. Oh well. We'll see what happens. He said the chemo would lessen my chance of recurrence by 1/2. It is low now, but since it's aggressive, I am taking anything I can get.
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