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  • JackieSue
    JackieSue Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2006
    Leigh,
    Thanks for the encouragement. I'm actually starting to look forward to the wedding. It helped to buy my dress. It has been the one thing I haven't had time to think about.

    I am sorry to hear you have to go back for the biopsy. I can imagine what I would be feeling. I'll be praying for you.

    Jackie
  • DATO
    DATO Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2006
    Hi ladies,

    I'm TAC #1 plus one day. So far, so good. They had me start Decadron (2 pills, 2X a day) the day before chemo, the day of, and the day after. I also take one Anzemet the day of chemo and the 2 days after, and then as needed.

    I was finished with chemo and back home a little after 3 PM. I just veged-out on the sofa for the rest of the day. No vomiting, just the slightest quesiness. Today I feel pretty good. I went to the bc support group meeting at the hospital. I know some women have a harder time later in the week, so I'm still taking it easy to see what pattern I will follow. I will start injecting myself with Neupogen for 5 days starting Thursday. Glad I now know to expect bone pain from these shots.

    Leigh, I'm so sorry to hear about the abnormal mammogram; you have my prayers.

    Jen, how are you doing? Didn't you start just a week ago?

    Darlene
  • baldeagle
    baldeagle Member Posts: 199
    edited July 2006
    Leigh,

    Let's hope the mamogram is just a glich and the biopsy will be b9. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    Darlene - as you start down the path: I have been taking acidophylis (Health food store item in the frig) for the tummy and intestines and it has made an enormous difference. I didn't have it cycle one and had lots of pain. Now the pain is minor. A friend whose father had colon cancer recommended it and I am so grateful. It restores th4e intestinal bacteria (good stuff)that the chemo destroys. You need one with lots of different bacteria so go for the top of the line.
    We're all hanging in with you.

    I had TAC 5 today. So far I feel OK - but will have to wait out the next several days. Lots of naps I guess.
    J.
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    J, Thank you for the suggestion about the acidophylis. My stomach has been a mess since round 3 and my PCP just put me on Bactrim for what my skin infection; won't that just break down the bacteria in my system even more? Between the fatigue of chemo (round 4 tomorrow!) and this skin infection that is not clearing up on my face, I am feeling overwhelmed. I can't seem to see the light at the end of the tunnell today ..
    Brigitte
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited July 2006
    Leigh, Sorry about your ordeal. As you know I had an abnormal mammogram about two weeks ago that they are going to "watch". I hope your biopsy goes well. I got a RX for effexor which I am starting tonight. Hope my hot flashes are diminished. Glad it is working for you.

    Paula, You be careful at those machines! One armed bandits can give you TENNIS ELBOW!

    Mindy, Guess we are on the same treatments. Except I am er-/pr- so I won't be taking tamoxifen.

    In case anyone is interested I took my first herceptin IV yesterday. They gave me bendryl and tylenol pills then administered a loaded dose (6mg) over 90 minutes. I didn't feel anything but the effects from the benedryl. It may cause diarrhea but with the constipation from the chemo it may balance out! Herceptin is detoxified in the liver and kidneys. I could smell the drug when I pee like I did the chemo. I read a long list of potential side effects. My onc said that most of the heart damage comes to those that take herceptin along with chemo drugs and that I won't need any tests on my heart until I show signs of congestive heart failure He reminded me that heart failure can be treated better than cancer.

    I go in for radiation #1 today. I am all marked up with permanent sharpee and those plastic diodes! They told me they usually don't tattoo breast patients since they sometimes have to adjust beams by millimeters. I was told I wouldn't get red until about halfway through. They gave me a prescription for RadiaPlex gel which is mostly aloe but told me to start using it to keep the tissues moist. I was also told to keep drinking (8 to 10 glasses of water a day). I will let you know how it goes.

    On another note..are any of you getting tumor marker tests done? It is a blood test to see the level of activity from cancer tumor cells? If it is elevated there is really nothing you can do about it. My onc says the levels can rise and fall normally in the body but it is an indicator of cancer activity in the body. I know people who don't want to know about elevated results but I opted to say ok. I also discussed getting the genetic test which is about $3,000. Evidently there is a breast cancer gene that can be carried from the father's side of the family and through sons to their daughters. Most literature out there asks if your mother's side had breast cancer and now they know it could very well come from the fathers side as I suspect was the case in my situation. Some women are getting mastectomies if they have the gene. It increases risks to over 50%. Damn this disease!

    Glad to hear from so many other tac ladies. Keep posting and everyone take care!

    Marcia
  • MollyK
    MollyK Member Posts: 70
    edited July 2006
    Brigitte,
    I'm sorry you are having such hard time. I promise, there is light at the end. You are half way through. Just keep reminding yourself of that. After tomorrow, you'll be 2/3 the way there. Treatments 1,2, and 3 were difficult for me, but it became mentally easier when I had had completed more treatments than I had left. This is such a mental battle. It is normal to feel overwhelmed. We've all felt the same way. Just look at what you've already accomplished! You can do it.

    Leigh, what is going on with the biopsy? Any updates. Hope your okay.

    Molly
  • MollyK
    MollyK Member Posts: 70
    edited July 2006
    Brigitte,
    I just realized we were diagnosed on the same day. March 6. Please feel free to PM me at anytime.
    Molly
  • baldeagle
    baldeagle Member Posts: 199
    edited July 2006
    Hi everyone,

    Five down and one to go. Am counting the days. Meanwhile this hasn't been too bad - so far. But now I get tested for my runs - hope it's just meds related and not somethinh more ominous.
    Just one more hurdle.
    I am glad we have made it thus far in relatively good shape with no major crises (that I can remeber). Forgive my chemo brain if I have.

    Anyway tomorrow we scoot down to where the cows moo, the bulls bellow, the owls hoot and the cyotes sing.
    Hopefully the water will be warm enough for a little tubing (we are beside a mountain river and the run-off is cold all year.).
    Will check back in MOnday. Leigh - don't blow all you cash - or rather, hope you win big. Something good for you.
    Brigitte, hope the acidophylus works for you.
    Jen and Darlene, Am thiking of you as you get used to this journey. Karen, hope you can finally enjoy a wine - skip the cheese. Marcia, do those markers look like cute tatoos? They should send the rads people to art school.
    Cheerio,
    Jeannette
  • JackieSue
    JackieSue Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2006
    Quote:

    Marcia, do those markers look like cute tatoos? They should send the rads people to art school.





    Hey, I like that idea. I know there won't be a lot of people enjoying them, but I would.

    Jackie
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited July 2006
    Jeannette - Cute tattoos? Hardly!..those radiation tech ladies are really great but they go wild with the sharpees. I have plus and minus marks on both sides under my arms and in the middle of my chest and sharpee lines making a box kinda from my neckline to under my breast. The only good thing about it is that I know were to put the radiaplex gel three times a day!

    I had my first radiation yesterday...two different positions of the machine and one minute zaps at each position. Didn't hurt but I swear I could feel something going on when they beamed me! Took me longer to park and change clothes that to get the treatment.

    Karen in Denver, My radiation oncologist warned me that coming off chemo would be a depressing time. She said that even though some patients start radiation that they see others around us moving on with their lives and we are still dealing with our diagnosis. She encouraged me to stay busy and engage myself in support groups to keep from having too much time to think about what I am going through.

    Karen (Kburns) What did you decide to do with your last TAC. Hope you are doing ok!

    Congratulations to those that are getting past the finish line. To those who are just starting, keep us posted and know that even though TAC is rough, you can find support here.
    Take care
    Marcia
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited July 2006
    Just a quick note to say I had the biopsy yesterday (Wednesday) and also an ultrasound followup to a couple of areas in the left that were benign when biopsied in Jan. Both of those are good news - one is gone, the other (a fibroadenoma) is smaller. It took two tries to get the calcification sample but the docs and techs at my center are nothing if not persistent! I'm hoping to hear results by Friday. That center is so wonderful - of course, I've spent quite a bit of time there, with my bilateral cancers -and so many of them came around to wish me well (and tell me I didn't have to have a PROBLEM to come see them, I could just DROP IN LOL) so they turn a difficult experience into something positive and very human.
    For those of you struggling - doing a third generation chemo like TAC IS harder - but the results ARE statistically better. You CAN do it - keep working with your oncologists to get the best side effect approaches!
    Leigh
    PS I have SEVENTEEN tatoos, but most of them are not very visible. The magic marker was a mess (like Marcia's X's and crosses) but that washed off, leaving only the black dots.
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited July 2006
    Leigh, Thanks for the update. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that you will get good news on Friday.

    Leigh, now which sounds more fun?...Play connect the dots on your chest with your 17 tattoos or play tic tac toe on my chest? Maybe we should ask Paula to judge...she has a wild sense of humor!

    Take care
    Marcia
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    Just checking in: round four TAC was today and went well. I feel better than I felt yesterday. I get horrible anxiety leading up to my chemo treatments; does anyone else have this problem? I am praying that I keep the nausea at bay better than the last round. Wow, only 2 to go!!!
    Love to all, Brigitte
  • slanderson
    slanderson Member Posts: 152
    edited July 2006
    Hello,

    I finished TAC about 6 months ago. The treatment itself was hard, but the week before the next treatment when I physically felt better was the hardest for me. I dreaded the next one worse than I suffered from the previous one. I never had nausea from the medicine, but I did have it just thinking about the chemo room and any of the nurses faces. I cried from the moment I woke up on chemo day and didn't stop until the atavan kicked in at the treatment. I, now, have changed locations where I see my onc because the thought of that room really makes me sick. So, yes, I guess you could say I had anxiety regarding chemo. However, now 6 months later, I feel GREAT and never think about that time. It is kind of like having a baby. You say you will never do it again, but you do.

    You'll make it!!

    Shannon
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    Shannon, thank you so much! I burst into tears from the moment my friend picks me up and throughout the drive to the chemo center. Today I cried because the nurse was having difficulty getting my blood for a few moments. I hate that feeling! What exactly is Atavan? I am not familiar with that. I get decadron and aloxi in my pre-meds drip ...
    It does feel great to have only two to go! And congratulations on being six months away from it!!! You give me hope for the end of this particular tunnell ..

    Brigitte
  • MollyK
    MollyK Member Posts: 70
    edited July 2006
    Brigitte,
    Ativan is an anti-anxiety drug. But it also helps with nausea and helps with sleep. So it is multi-purpose. I take it the night before treatment and it is the first thing they give me on my treatment day before the decadron and aloxi. If you have horrible anxiety leading up to treatment, then you should definitely ask your doctor about this. It's good to hear everything went well today!

    Molly
  • mindyk
    mindyk Member Posts: 87
    edited July 2006
    Just checking in. Hope everyone is doing ok. I actually worked outside for about a half hour, then it was inside to the air condition that we finally got fixed. Now I am off with my 16 yrs old and 7 yr old to go find some kakhi pants for my son. He got a job and starts work tomorow! YEAH!
    Take Care,
    Mindy
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    I wish I could get my two boys to get jobs! They are still sleeping. I can feel my post-chemo fog descending on me. Yech. Still feeling better than round three, just really woozy. Have a great day, everyone!
    Brigitte
  • DATO
    DATO Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2006
    Here I am at number 1 plus 5 days. I am sooooo envious of you ladies who are now finishing. It helped to hear that TAC is a third generation protocol and our long-term prognosisis is better, but knowing I still have 5 more to go...... Wednesday night I was hit hard with nausea and cold sweats (or was that night sweats). I spent all of yesterday in bed and I didn't eat or drink very much, but no nausea. Today I feel almost human again. I feel really wiped out; not tired, wiped out. I guess that means I'm supposed to try to take a walk or something. I took my first neupogen shot yesterday and didn't really feel any effects.

    I know that going to the next rounds of chemo are going to be harder. I'm going to go take a shower now and wash my hair while I still have some to wash.

    Leigh, you are in my prayers for a B9 biopsy result.

    Darlene
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited July 2006
    Darlene, Congratulations on getting the first one behind you. Don't try to look too far ahead. Just deal with your symptoms day to day. Chemo acts so differently on all of us. You may want to use this first time to find solutions to effectively deal with your side effects. That will make future rounds easier. Just celebrate that you got the first one behind you and you kinda know what to expect. We all celebrate the fact that you got one behind you. Hope you are dealing ok with the hair loss. That was hard for me after the first round.
    Take Care
    Marcia
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited July 2006

    My breast surgeon is in surgery, but her assistant said "it looks good - fibrocystic change". She'll try to get Dr. D. to call me herself later in case there is anything else she needs to communicate. Breathing a bit easier here...Leigh

  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited July 2006
    Congrats Leigh..You deserve some good news!
    Have a good weekend!

    Marcia
  • mindyk
    mindyk Member Posts: 87
    edited July 2006
    Hi all,
    Just got back from spending the day at my sisters. I took my daughter there to go swimming. I actually got in the pool and floated on a raft for a little bit. I caked on the sun screen.
    Leigh, congrats on the news. I have been thinking about you.
    Darlene, Like Marcia said, Don't look to far ahead. Take it one treatment and one day at a time.
    Brigitte, How old are your boys? With me not working, I can hardly affored my sons gas and his insurance, so he had the choice of not going anywhere or getting a job! I am so mean! LOL
    Everyone take care,
    Good night,
    Mindy
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    HI everyone,
    I am still feeling pretty darn good following round four, compared with how absolutely horrible I felt for all those weeks after round three. Am sleeping a lot but not having the queaziness and incredibly heavy legs syndrome from before. If only the air quality wasn't so horrible here at the moment, I would feel like getting out for a bit.
    Mindy, my boys are 15 and 18; the 18 year old keeps saying he is looking for a job but nothing has panned out. Big Sigh of frustration from me!!! And I am too wimpy to withhold the AmEx card. Now that I'm feeling a bit stronger, that may have to change. I've been very wimpy lately due to feeling so lousy and I think it's time to put the Mom Doormat away!
    The idea of floating in a pool sounds wonderfully peaceful.
    Love to all and have a wonderful day,
    Brigitte
  • DATO
    DATO Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2006
    Yeah Leigh, glad for the good news.

    Round 1 plus 6 and today I feel almost normal. I'm actually going to do some cleaning up around here. Never thought I'd be happy to clean house Now that I'm through the first round I know that hair loss is going to be the next hurdle. I wasn't really thinking about it before, but now I am. I'm sure it is going to be traumatic. My best to all.
    Darlene
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited July 2006
    Thanks for sharing the sigh of relief - I got a confirming call after they talked with the doc and she said tell her "100% no problem - tell her to have a great time off (between chemo and rads)"
    Darlene - The hair thing is a little hard at the time, first because it hurts a bit when it's coming out (my husband buzzed it with trimmers for me at that point) and then because it makes it 'real' in some weird way. After that, I must say it hasn't bothered me much (though I'll be happy to have it back at some point). I hate the wig (I wear it for work only) but the hat and scarf thing is fine, and sometimes I don't even do that...people can cope, and if not they're welcome to my shoes for a few days! Glad you have the first one behind you - that's a big milestone.
    Marcia - thanks - we're at Solomons and feeling just great, still three whole weeks off, including a vacation week.
    Leigh
  • lke
    lke Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2006
    Hi everyone.
    I finished TAC on Nov. 9, 2005 and 35 rads in early Feb. 2006. I had my first 6 mo check up and every thing was good. Had 1st post bc mamogram and it was fine. Now I am on Arimidex. I just wanted to let you know, I am with you and you can get thru this.
  • Brigrf
    Brigrf Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2006
    Linda, congratulations on all that you have accomplished and been through. Can I ask you, how did you feel going thru rads compared with chemo? The horrible fatigue of post chemo treatments really gets me down. And how do you feel, overall? You are a ray of hope for me today!
    Sincerely, Brigitte
  • JackieSue
    JackieSue Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2006
    Darlene,
    Hang in there. I've decided that some of the frustration we all feel the first week after the treatment is made worse by our hormones. Even though I know that I'll be feeling better in a week or so I feel like I can't keep going. I feel like life will be like this forever. I take anti-depresents, but they can't balance all of this chemo stuff. I just have to remember that this too will pass. You can do it.
    Jackie
  • JackieSue
    JackieSue Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2006
    Woo hoo!! Congratulations Leigh!
    Jackie

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