Charleston Bound, part 2

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  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited August 2013

    Weird thing happened just a few minutes ago. I got into bed, rolled to my left side and the fat necrosis shifted in my left breast. Has this happened to anyone else??? I've got a good bit of necrosis & this is the first time this has happened. It hurts & feels weird...not like anything  imminent is going to happen. Just local pain--not terrible, and feels weird. I'll be glad to get this fat necrosis out in a few weeks, even if I have floppy flaps until the fat grafting in December!!

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2013

    Cascader, even with my lumpectomy in 1994, I was told to check back with my BS periodically. 3 mos, 6 mos, 12 mos for about 10 years. I also had a MO and RXO, and saw them periodically as well (the MO more). I plan to use Dr Baron as my go to guy for yearly or whatever he says checkups. I too am sold on his expertise in this area and my docs here have NO CLUE!



    We still have a slight chance of a microscopic cell being left behind ( from what I've read) and I want someone who knows what he is doing to be in charge of me to make sure I'm not taking biopsies or other means to rule out another bc.



    Hugs

  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited August 2013

    Okay thanks. I see my MO every 6 months still and while she seems ok with my choice of recon she does not seem overly interested. So sounds like Dr. Baron plays the same role as my MO does for me.

    I have not had a MRI since my sgap but have had a ultrasound to look at some fat necrosis. Don't think my docs will do an MRI unless their is a reason for it, not for surveillance. I admit however, having an occasional MRI would probably make me feel better. 

    Ketch, I hope that you have called the docs today about that, you probably had a sleepless night . I hope you are more comfortable now, let us know what is happening . Loved "floppy flaps" :)

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited August 2013

    My OC has me doing a baseline MRI and then wants them done yearly or every other year. My PS says every year. My BS wanted to do a mammo and my PS wrote her a letter about why you should not do that with our DIEP flaps. I decided to quit the BS as I shouldn't need her again and she just wasn't that supportive of my surgery.

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited August 2013

    Cherrie,



    When you get you MRI, is it just of the chest region?

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited August 2013

    Montrial,

    You will not find a person more convinced than myself that serious consideration must be given to doing both breasts.  I firmly beleive all women with BC should get genetic testing.  There are other genes than BRAC that pass BC.  It is possible that no women in your family have BC but you still run a hgih risk.   My genetic condition is associated with colon cancer and only the men in our family got it.  BC was something "our family didn't get"  Turns out the gene has a 50% chance of BC.  It passes down to men and women.  But in our family we are almost all boys so no BC. Lucky me!

    Personally I think it is a more insidious gene than BRAC as it passes to an from both sexes.

    No one ever mentioned getting both down.  When I sked, I was told the AMA does not reccommend it.  Had I konw I could have done it I would.  Every six months after my first round of chemo, I had either a mammo or mri.  That 6 month rotation is the current AMA guidelines.  I almost always ended up with a questionabel area and then a biopsy.  No one ever told me that since I had a breast revesion on the other breast to match the reconstruction, tests were hard to read.  One month the tests were clear.  Six months later I have a 7 cm tumor and 15 positive nodes.  I don't beleive for a minute they got there in 6 months.  And the stress of the exams was enough that my Dr. recommended antidepressants.

    I had to have another mastectomy, more chemo and more radiation.  Now more surgery and no implants becasue of radiation.  No DIEP cause that ship already sailed.  Once the SGAP breast is OK, reconstruction on my previous DIEP breast for more symmetry.  New nipples on both.  Don't know about more surgery on my butt but maybe.

    There is NO way I would reccommend this path tp anyone.  SUrgical techniques now are so good that the loss of two breast is not any more disfiguring than loosing one.  THe results are often better as Drs don't have to try to "match" a natural breast, they can reconstruct them the same.  Bi-lateral Recovery may be a little more difficult than uni, but no where near as bad as recovering from two operations.

    My onncologist ( changed for the second round) says he doesn't recommend it (AMA again) but his Physician Assistant says when asked she always recommends bi-lateral.

    I can not tell you what to do...it is a matter of personal choice.  I can only tell you my personal choice.  Especially if anyone in your family( mother or father;s side) has had colon, endometrial or breast cancer I urge you to get tested prior to making the decsion.  These days most insurance companies cover it if there is any possibility and it is a simple test.

  • 5andcounting
    5andcounting Member Posts: 232
    edited August 2013

    When I was diagnosed with my second triple negative cancer, 3.5 years after original lumpectomy, my onc recommended single mastectomy. I remember him asking me why I would remove a breast that had never had any pathology. I told him bc doing this twice was quite enough. I know from a stats view, it wasn't likely but my mental health couldn't take that chance. Besides I wanted symmetry and Diep for both. There's no wrong decision but I don't understand why the docs are surprised when we want bilateral.

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited August 2013

    I feel a need to chime in too. My first diagnosis (invasive BC) was 11 years ago and I was always having MRI's, ultrasounds, mammograms and biopsies. My genetic testing came back negative but I have a strong family background of hormonal type cancers. Two years ago I was diagnosed with ADH. A pre -cancerous condition in the other breast. This raised my odds to 40% in my lifetime. not okay. I was told I would be doing a mammo and 6 mo. later a MRI indefinitely. I decided to do a prophylactic BMX. It has been a long year, but breast cancer isn't my worry anymore and that is a HIGE relief. I feel like my DIEP saved my life. It was a great decision for me.

  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited August 2013

    I did have a miserable night, but by morning the dead fat seemed happy where it was. So far, no problems, but I did sleep on the couch last night where I would not shift to my left side. I went to the gymn today and was able to do all my exercises. So I'm guessing it was a fluke.

    As to the discussion of bmx, I chose the bmx due to my aunt's removal of one and then cancer coming back with a vengence 11 years later in her remaining one. Plus, I did not want to live my life going to mammograms then waiting every 3-6 months. I've not regretted my decision at all.

  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited August 2013

    I just booked my flight..my husband called while I was doing it,told him I was still hesitant..he said "DO IT!! You got through chemo and herceptin and all the complications,you can do this and I know you will be glad"..this is really going to happen..does not seem possible after all this time...I had a prophylactic mast a year and a half after my first,very dense breast..I only wish I had had it removed at my first surgery,but guess it was good I tried being a uni..also glad I tried the flat route....no regrets here for having the healthy one removed..and like everyone says will make it easier for symmetry....hope everyone is doing well..I am kind of in a daze!

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited August 2013

    Hi all!  I am new to this discussion.  I have talked to Dr. Craigie's office and am getting things started.  I live in Michigan so this will be quite the travel, etc. to get reconstruction all done.  I am looking at a diep for both breasts using the tummy area.  Should I do a phone consult with the use of the Internet or would it be better taking a mini-vacation(3 day week-end) to see the doctor in person?  We will drive down this time.  Not sure about the actual surgery.  I only have my husband to do all of the care which could be overwhelming for him(we both are 60) since he will be working too.  How does the logistics work?  Do they find you a place or do you do it yourself?  How long will it before I can go home(probably by car, yeah I know but money could be a problem).  I do rebound pretty well from surgeries but how are complications handled when one is out of state?  PM probably would be better so I don't take up all of the space.  I just want to get to the other side of this and get my "life" back.  Kat

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited August 2013

    I had bilateral DIEP with Dr. Massey. She recommends a bilateral breast MRI every year for monitoring.

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited August 2013

    Had my appointment with Dr Baron yesterday. He doesnt feel MRI necessary for patients having bilat mastectomy. Interesting how different opinions are from doc to doc.



    He and PA did full breast chest exam. Med onc would just push under my armpit and walk out.



    He has moved into new office down the street. Dr Craigie and Kline will start doing their Monday and Tuesday clinic there, respectively, in a few weeks.



    I follow up with Dr Baron in six months.



  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited August 2013

    aspinner, Welcome! I'd vote for the mini-vacy, because I like mini-vacations! But, you could do it over the phone with no problems. It may ease your mind to come down for a face to face. As far as lodging, there's all kind of lodging around from condos to hotels, low-end to high-end! AFter my first stage, I stayed at Wild Dunes in a beachfront condo (it was off-season and cheaper). They request you stay at least 10 days afterward.For Stage 2, we will be staying at Sandpiper which is a retirement village. I have not seen the Sandpiper yet, but understand that it is nice & cheap ($85 p/night for 2 br) & is equipped for those not moving around at 100%. When I've gone for dr appointments, we stayed in hotels. So there is plenty of options as far as accomodations.

    After care is a bit hard for me to determine. My mother did most of that but other than lifting and the shots, none of it was too demanding. Pain was well managed and I was very mobile. So I would not think it would be too much of a burden.

    The surgeries are a committment though and you have to be ready for that.

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited August 2013

    In was uneasy about consulting over the phne but it worked out well.  I sent pictures.  Minin vacations are nice, but I had to use all my sick days for the procedures.  Dr. Kline as  said there is really no reason to come down unless you just want to.

    You will meet before surgery.

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited August 2013

    I just realized how bad I type.  Sorry guy..it's the trifocals!

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited August 2013

    Thanks for responding.  It is very helpful.  There is a doctor who has started doing DIEP here in GR but he does them solo.  Don't think so.  So, Charleston, here I come!! One duck-in-a-row!!  It has been a year now finding that BC came back but in a different form and the other breast.  Guess this is pretty common.  MO said I was cancer free now but it is really hard to believe that phrase.  Just waiting to get my life back now and on the shoulder hair again!!  Hair is growing slowly this time.  (sigh)

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited August 2013

    where is GR? 

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited August 2013

    That is Grand Rapids, Michigan.  Laughing

  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited August 2013

    Hi,aspinner,I sent you a PM!

  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited August 2013

    Pinkheart,sounds like Dr.Baron will be a good fit for you.Are you getting settled in to beautiful Charleston? Can't believe I will be there in 16 days!

  • montrial
    montrial Member Posts: 48
    edited August 2013

    aspinner:  I know where you are coming from.  I am just ahead of you on my journey for reconstruction.  I recently contacted Dr. Kline and Craigies office to get the process started.  My husband and I opted for a face-to-face visit with Dr. Craigie, so we could not only meet the doctor but also check out the facilities (hospital, places to stay, etc.) prior to travelling there for surgery.  My initial appointment is scheduled for Mon., Aug. 26.  We will drive over from TN on Sunday, have our appt. on Mon., enjoy the area a little, and drive back home on Tuesday.  We will be staying at Homewood Suites (medical rate $119/night) but that includes breakfast 7 days and dinner Mon-Thu. (great for when we have to stay for 10 days and makes the rate more reasonable).  This rate also includes comp. wine or beer (which your husband might enjoy).  My surgery is tentatively scheduled for November 7th, and we have already made reservations for that time at Homewood as well.  If we don't like it during our Aug. visit, we can seek out other accommodations and make the change.  I have been told it is very convenient to the doctor's office an hospital, restaurants, shopping, etc.  I had a unilateral mastectomy in Dec. of 2008, and I am just now getting the ball rolling for reconstruction.  I have a job with little backup if I am off, so this has been a concern/problem for me.  I am in my 60's, too.  My dilema now is whether I should have the other breast removed and a bilateral reconstruction or just go for the one now and hope and pray for the best with the other.  Anyway, I will be glad to let you know how things go for me, as you should be right behind me, that is, unless you go ahead and schedule your surgery sooner.  If that happens, you can fill me in on what to expect.  Best of luck to you (and your husband as caregiver).  Let me know if I can help in any way.

  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited August 2013

    Hi aspinner. Congratulations on getting started with this process, I think sometimes that is the hardest part, making the decision to move forward. I live in Wash state and I flew out to see Dr Kline for a consult, certainly not necessary but I had an earlier failed implant recon in Seattle and needed to feel some control I guess. Yes, mini vacations are the best and I think you will fall in love with the area like so many of us have. For my first surgery I stayed at Sandpiper in a 2 bdrm, it actually ended up to be just about $45 a night because I booked and stayed for a month! I live quite rural in the mountains and do not have easy access to medical care so wanted to be near the hospital and Doc just in case.  Also stayed at Homewood for subsequent surgeries and that is a great place to stay as others have said. I am a uni and had a sgap last June and my final surgery this past May, just waiting for my aereola tattoo.  Feel free to PM me if you would like.

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2013

    I'm piping in on the bmx vs umx - having had 2 bouts of bc 17 years apart. Not even a glimmer of doubt as to do both sides. 1994 = Lumpectomy on Rt breast (took most of top half off) and then in early 2012 Lt breast with new bc. No doubt- no thoughts, just knew it was time to let them both be taken off and recon started!



    I did all they told me to do, chemo, rads, lumpectomy (0/17 nodes) did it all, and still developed different, new cancer in opposite breast. A no brainer to take them both in 2012. In November I will hopefully be in Cascader's shoes, doing the last of the finishing touches to the breast area with the nipples and will then have to wait for the aeroloas for Vinnie.



    Hope this helps, Montrial. I am also in my 60's. My first bc was in my 40's.



    Pink, I have my appt scheduled for Dr. Baron in early November. Ladies, if you've had Dr. Baron, you know he's tops at this kind of thing, and probably will be seeing him at least every year for many many years to come, so hoping to make it an annual November thing and rent a house and have a 'boobday party" with other of you all to just get together, see Dr. Baron, relax at a beach house type thing. Having fallen in love with Charleston, will be a good reason to go back! Right Deidre?



    As for face to face consults: I had the opportunity to talk to Dr. Kline and Gail, asking my questions each time I had one. I never thought about going for a face to face as I was trying to keep DH's vaca days for the surgery. I came down 2 days early. The first day was driving the 6 hours to get there, the second was filled with MRA, Dr. Kline, Dr. Baron, and the hospital to pre-check in. I was listed on Hope Lodge's reservation list and called to ask what my chances were and spoke to Priscilla. I had active cancer at that time. After Dr. Kline's office listed me, that is. Priscilla is the Hope Lodge reservation guru with ACS. I was lucky enough to get in and we were able to check in before the surgery, the night before in fact. That meant my stay for stage 1 was zero out of pocket for hotel, Dr Baron and Dr Kline as I had met my deductible prior to coming.



    I too have stayed at Homewood Suites and they are my favorite for convenience, parking, walking to stores or food, and close to the beach.



    Best of wishes for all just starting and for those continuing!



    Hugs





  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited August 2013

    Catie, I finally decided to " just do it" and get my tattoo appointment. Would rather spend a weekend in New Orleans than Baltimore so called and guess what? He is booked out until February now and until January in Maryland. I do not want to be anywhere near mardi gras so back to the calendar for me. Anxious to get it done all of a sudden, like wanting it...next week!! So get yourself an appointment if you have a time in mind.

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited August 2013

    Hi a spinner,



    I too am from the GR area and chose to leave Michigan to do my surgery. My doctor is the same as Marty J. However, Dr. Massey does her stage 1 in New Orleans. After that she will do any stage 2's in Charleston or Chicago. Going to Chicago has saved me a lot of money. Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have. All of these docs in NOLA and Charleston are great and have tons of experience! Good luck with your decisions.

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited August 2013

    Consultation is set up for next Monday, August 26th.  It will be quite a drive for us but we are breaking it up.  Gosh, I am so excited(and scared) to get this going!!  I am going into the "unknown" once again and hopefully it is more or less smooth sailing.  If anyone can suggest what to bring since I will not be able to send hubby HOME to get, PM me please.  You all are a big help, Thanks.  KatLaughing

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited August 2013

    Kat - if you are staying at Homewood Suites, there is a Target right behind it so your hubby can easily shop.  Are you anticipating that you will get scheduled for surgery immediately after the consult?

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2013

    well the bags are packed and we are leaving about 6am for my consult for stage 2 tomorrow afternoon with surgery scheduled for Wednesday.....I cannot wait to see what she is going to do to them!  I know she is not wanting to touch y backside just yet...that will be in December so I am going to look good coming but not going.  It's about a 7 hr drive so not too bad this time around.  Thankful I do not have to fly as my left arm is still in compression bandaging from May's go round. 

    Maggie

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited August 2013

    aspinner, I travel a lot and finally decided to stop worrying about forgetting things.  I figured out the sell the same stuff practically anywhere you go! As long as I have my favorite pink hoodie, I'm fine!

    We stayed at the Homewood suites and everything was very convenient. There is a Target and a grocery store practically in the parking lot.  My favorite grocery store Publix, is not very far either. There's a Trader Joes as you go into Mt. Pleasant; Walgreens and CVS are close by.  I found out even if I go off and leave a prescription at home, Walgreens has it on file so even thats not a problem.

    Drawstring PJs were nice to ride home (FLorida) in.

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