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  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited August 2013

    Soriya - I use Pure & Natural (P&N) body wash for head - it's hypoallergenic and paraben free! Lana

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited August 2013

    Angela, I also work with someone who had breast cancer about 2 years before me.  But I guess 1 in 8 of us gets it in our lifetime, so then it doesn't seem as odd. 

  • SweetheartinTX
    SweetheartinTX Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2013

    NonComprimise, Marsha, Honey, HVV, Angela and Two Hobbies.

    Thank all of you for your input. I really appreciate it.



    It seems to be the consensus that i should get it. These are my concerns with it.



    1) Since i opted for immediate reconstruction (at the time they said i wouldn't need radiation, just chemo) they will have to deflate my right tissue expander, do radiation, wait 6 months, reinflate the tissue expander, and then during my surgery to replace the TE with the implant....the plastic surgeon will have to wrap the implant in my own back muscle to insure that the implant doesn't break through my skin or move around.

    2) If i have the radiation now, if it ever comes back in that breast, i won't have radiation as a back up (cause you can't do it in the same area twice).

    3) it only increases my percentage for non-reoccurance by 1 or 2% (from everything i have read anyhow)



    So thats why i said i am not sure if the benefits outweigh the risks. However, i want to know that i am doing everything i can to be here as long as i can for my kids. I am really struggling with this decision.



    I know that my onc thinks a lot of my husband (he said he is very smart) however, i was HIGHLY offended to what he said to me. And so was my husband, once i told him. My husband is not going to go against what i want to do because i am the one going through this nightmare. I just feel let down, like someone mis-lead me. I was under the impression i could just get chemo, replace TE expanders with implants and be done. (besides check ups) My pectoral muscle is now on top of the TE so if it came back, it is upfront by my skin, it should be fairly easy to detect if it came back. (i would think)



    TwoHobbies- I hate to hear that about your co-worker. I wish the best for her.

    Sorry for such the long post. And thanks for letting me vent!!

  • honeybunny96
    honeybunny96 Member Posts: 120
    edited August 2013

    MLD massage is manual lymph drainage. It helps when those have lymphedema or swelling in my case but not lymphedema. It also helps with the lymphatic system to help flush and rid your body of toxins. I would not rush out to get MLD massage but talk to your doc about it if it's something for you. They are staying away from when left side where I had the nodes removed and basically channeling the excess fluid to the groin area, where I have lymph nodes that 'work'. You can google for more information, but I would start at the lymphedema society website first for more up to date information.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited August 2013

    Sweetheart I would definitely get a second opinion.  Verify that 1 to 2% and why did they say no radiation before.  Has there been some change, some new study that indicates that radiation is superior, or is this Dr. super cautious, super aggressive.  I think a second opinion would help you decide, and then go with your instincts.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Sweetheart, re: your question about your kids I'd say as I've heard my doctors and nurses say:  the first chance to irradicate breast cancer is the best chance.  Do everything up front.

    V

  • KTLe
    KTLe Member Posts: 22
    edited August 2013

    NoCompromises-What does PH stand for? I'm with you. No more surgeryYell

  • Nocompromises2013
    Nocompromises2013 Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    KTLe
     - did you mean DH?  =Darling Husband

    sweetheart- I agree the TEs do throw a spanner in the works - i understand your reticence now a bit more..... my only comment  check out that 1-2% figure very thoroughly - 2hobbies and HVV speak volumes of sense.

    My MO initially told me radiation was a big ??? in my treatment plan until the pathology work was back post Mx and therefore he wasnt prepared to consider recon till we knew exactly what my plan for treatment was going to be precisely for the reasons you now outline....  now for me its no radiation -so  i now have options but initially i was so uninformed i would have done whatever he had told me to... i only had 24hrs from first appt to operation and had signed the admission forms within an hour of his recommendations- although i guess we knew in hearts what had to be so why delay.... i probably would have had TE put in if it was suggested ..... but now I feel very differently probably cos it means more operations and i am more informed and i feel comfortable at present - IDK - at the end of the day as with any of our decisions .....it is your body and your decision - and not an easy one .....  i do feel for you - not easy

    so this weekends dramas??,..... why is it always at a weekend??... i have managed to develop cellulitis on my MX site- great... about 10cm x 8cm..phoned onc and she put me on oral ABs and said if it gets worse overnight ring BS and consider i/v ABs - overnight it grew to about 10cm x 9.5cm.. rang him and he changed me from fluclox to clindamycin... i have no fever, no pain, but a big warm red area... anyone out there had similar?  initially i FREAKED out and self diagnosed Inflammatory BC... my onc and also a local GP (friend) both repeatedly have assured me it is infective and def. cellulitis -- hope that they are both correct - i am due #3 in 6 days hope it clears up a bit!!!!!!!

    why oh why cant life be simple?  sorry for the rant .......

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited August 2013

    NC, I had an infection post mastectomy but I was worse off with a high fever.  I had to go to the hospital for IV antibiotics.  Just keep track of the size and your fever and keep in touch with the doc if the size gets bigger or you get fever.  Sounds like you are doing that.  They even trace it with a pen (the red area) to see if it grows outside the boundaries, so you can do that too.  In my case, they did test me to see what kind of bacteria I had, but that may have been because of the severity of my infection.

           

  • Nocompromises2013
    Nocompromises2013 Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Thnx 2hobs :(



    I have been drawing on it and just checked and 9hrs later it's bigger again. Still no fever though so I Am going to go to bed and hope it settles overnight

    Temp is 36.3degrees. (96.8 in US language)

    night all

  • angelanature
    angelanature Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2013

    Hi All,that sounds like a cellulitis Sue,when was last surgery?That's so scary and yes everything happens on a weekend,when i had my hematoma over memorial weekend i had my husband take a picture of it and sent it to the doctor on call to see if i had to go to the er.Sweetheart,i don't know much about recons,because they underestimated this bc no one even talked to me about other options beside lumpectomy,but i can imagine radiation would mess up your healing can u do it in a year after you have completely healed?It's amazing how quick we have to make these huge decisions about our health under such duress,but my medical dr,a woman,told me you can always change your mind later,she said when i was considering not doing chemo because my oncotype was 16,you can do it next year(glad i didn't put it off).Have a good weekend everyone,Angela

  • Vilia
    Vilia Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    Hi Everyone!

    I've been busy all week trying to understand this new online school with my daughter.  On Friday, she worked from 8:15 to 7 and today she had to do a math class.  It's been exhausting, and then I had chemo #2 on Thursday.  Feel my crappiest today.

    I have been reading through all the posts, so here goes:

    HVV - I got acne, too.  Mo gave me topical antibiotic, but when my ps gave me an oral one it finally started to clear up.  My b.s told me lymphodema is rare and thought I didn't need any pt.  However, I went anyway and am glad I did.  The massages are wonderful and they've given me all kinds of good advice.  My range of motion is back to normal even though I still have some cording.  Will return after my next fill.  Regarding recon., I didn't have enough back fat or belly fat to do both breasts and my skin is very thin.  I can see the TE's through my skin and feel them pop in and out when I press on them, but after massages and stretches they're feeling a lot better now and I feel I can wait for recon when chemo's done. 

    Mellie289 - my ps gave me ab's for the redness on my breast, but she doesn't think it was infection, she was just erring on the side of caution.  She thinks a stitch underneath the skin broke but it's no big deal.

    Rambo - Illuminations in Alpharetta offers free wigs for chemo patients (the kind that are smooth on the inside and kind to bald heads).  The lady who took care of me (Julie, I think), was super helpful and, although the wigs are used, the one I got is really good quality.  I wore it to chemo and the lady next to me looked at me in disbelief when I said it was a wig.  The nurse who overheard me later came up and told me it was the best wig he'd ever seen!  Soooo glad to hear the good news about your daughter!  I know that has to be such a wonderful relief!

    GraceB1- the revolving room sounds quite scary.  I do hope that doesn't occur again and that you are feeling much better by now.

    Soriya123- Like RealityCheck, I won't be getting recon. until after chemo and am even holding off on fills.  The TE's have really settled down and, like RC, I can pretty much lay in any position I want to now.  I was getting some real discomfort at first, too.

    SweetheartinTX- that's a tough decision to make about radiation.  It did sound excessive at first, but reading other posts maybe it is for the best, I don't know.  Whatever you feel most comfortable with will be the way to go.

    Gotta go and eat and rest.  Hugs to all!

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Hi All, 

        Have a little bit of a funny story for all of you.  Seems we have talked about most every topic on here, but haven't touch on my little problem as of lately.  Do any of you have what I lovingly call "Chemo Farts"?  I mean these things can peel the paint off the walls, and its not what I am eating.  I burb and fart like an old sailer.  When I told my dr. he laughed until I had an escapee and then he immediately fumigated the office and prescribed me gas x.  Its terrible though.  All the time.  Right after infusion its downright painful.  I just wondered if anyone else was having issues.  Until then, if you see a cancer patient in the waiting room stand clear,  could be me.  Lol.    love to all   

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Hannarigs,

    I had read about chemo farts and thought I would finally have the ability to "blow away" my hubby and boys....alas it never happened for me.



    Here is a link to some pretty funny things regarding cancer (well, my warped sense of humor, I found most to be funny) . I learned a lot about side effects by reading here!

    http://community.breastcancer.org/topic_post?forum_id=67&id=755825&page=1



    Pat

  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited August 2013

    Patty smiles - thanks for the link! I've only read a handful of pgs but they r hilarious! We all need humor and we can certainly relate!



    Hannariggs - I definetely have more gas too! Can't say I've cleared a room, but this morning I was upstairs in our bedroom and my hubby was downstairs getting ready 4 work and hollered up " what was that?" - couldn't believe he could hear me fart from downstairs! LOL

    Lana

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Thanks for the link.  There is some funny stuff there, and sometimes we have to laugh, and get even. LOL. Have a blessed weekend all.......

  • angelanature
    angelanature Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2013

    Hi All,Hows everyone doing? Read the jokes too and added my breastbook one,soooo funny but some sad. Having 4th ac on tuesday and already getting nervous and bouts of nausia just thinking about it. I couldn't sleep last night with "bad" thoughts swimming around in my brain all night. If one more person says,well,it's your last ac tx and taxol is better i'll scream! Hubbies taking me to movies and dinner today to try to take my mind off it,don't know what i'd do without him,thank God i took a second chance at marriage a couple of years ago! Hugs to all,Angela

  • Vilia
    Vilia Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    I'm feeling worse longer than after the first infusion....dizzy, extreme fatigue, not quite nauseous but a lump in my throat, feet feel and look a bit fat, wake up with fat eyes even though peeing like a racehorse all night long (I thought fat eyes meant dehydration).  Don't know if I can handle Monday.

  • momx2
    momx2 Member Posts: 109
    edited August 2013

    Hello everyone , hope all are doing well .

    Im 3 days post 3rd AC tx and feel like hell .

    Went to call my mom , force of habit unfortunately mom no longer can take my calls .

    I talk to her a lot , miss the sound of her voice . Sorry for my pitty party but i needed to vent . She always had away of cheering me up and making me laugh .

    Its only 3 wks since she passed has been so hard for me not having her around especially at this time .

    I pray for all of us to persevere and beat this beast , use all artillery in battle.

    {{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Momx2, I am sorry your mom cannot be here to take your call, but I am sure she can hear you.

    My dad passed a year ago. I often wonder what he would say, he was so funny. I look like him with my short hair and now all white! As the blonde seems to have fallen out, but the white stayed!



    I am sending my prayers to you.

    Pat

  • momx2
    momx2 Member Posts: 109
    edited August 2013
  • momx2
    momx2 Member Posts: 109
    edited August 2013

    sorry about your dad also

  • JeriGrace
    JeriGrace Member Posts: 128
    edited August 2013

    Hey Firecrackers, gotta agree about the chemo farts. Wicked. . . and loud!

    Momx2, I'm so sorry you don't have your mom here when you really need her. Would love to be able to talk to my dad too. He's the only one in my close family who has also battled cancer (lung) and I think he would understand some of my feelings.

    Pattysmiles, when I got my hair buzzed I thought just for a minute that I looked like one of my brothers. He passed away 3 years ago and I kind of liked that it made me feel closer to him.



    I am on day 7 after second infusion of TC. So fatigued it's hard to lift my arms and legs and still have a headache. Now I'm running a low grade fever and praying it's not another infection. I just cannot stand the thought of having to go back to the hospital. To keep my mind occupied I have been binge-watching the tv show Scandal. I'm in the middle of season 2 right now. Thank goodness for Netflix and Hulu. I don't know how some of you go out and do things during these days. I haven't left the house since last Tuesday!

  • SweetheartinTX
    SweetheartinTX Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2013

    Thank you all for your advice on the radiation issue. And the jokes! That was funny.



    Hope all your ladies are staying positive and know that we can and will get through this!



    Love from the Gulf Coast of Texas

  • KTLe
    KTLe Member Posts: 22
    edited August 2013

    Momx2, My heart goes out to you. Sounds like you had a special relationship with your momSmile She might not be able to answer your phone call, but I truly believe she can hear you. Good luck with your recovery from the AC. I go for my third chemo on Tuesday. My first tx, I had no problems whatsoever. The steroids and the Neulasta kicked my butt after my second tx. We've changed my med dosage, so I'm hoping this one won't be so painful. We WILL get through this, and one day soon this will all be in the pastCool

  • angelanature
    angelanature Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2013

    Hi All,mom2,the third infusion was the worst for me but you can do it,it does get better around day 6,just keep drinking fluids.Then the bone pain from nuelasta will subside and appetite starts returning bit by bit.Jerigrace,i'm with you the whole week after chemo i'm couch or bed bound,tv and my little doggie just snuggle and watch tv.Hopefuly your fine but watch temp carefully over 100 call md.Hang in there troupers,i feel so blessed to have my parents still here cheering me on. Hugs to all,Angela

  • soriya123
    soriya123 Member Posts: 662
    edited August 2013

    Chemo fart, yep that me too. LOL. Sometime in my room and during walking(exercising). I



    Momx2, I'm sorry about your mom. I felt really bad for you especially during this time, when you needed her the most.

    My mom with me n help me out almost everyday, I am very close to my mom, so I can't imagine the feeling you re going right now. Be strong okay.



  • Rambo50
    Rambo50 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2013

    Villia - know how you feel!!!  I've had lumpiness/fullness in the back of my throat for 3 days now!!!  Frustrating, and I don't feel like eating ANYTHING!!!  Forced down some chicken, soup, and cottage cheese today somehow - even my favorite candies taste like CRAP!  Also the "fat" feeling - I've had that each time, but it usually goes away after the first week.

    Momx2 - I grieve for your loss :(  My mom and I aren't always on the best of terms - though we love each other dearly, but I can't imagine going through this without her.  I lost my dad to pancreatic cancer 14 years ago and it still seems like yesterday.  There ARE actually times I think - just for a moment - I need to share that with Daddy.  Of course I DO!  There's a special bond between us, even as he's moved on to a better place.  In fact, two weeks after he passed I was driving home from work, having had a rotten day, and looked up into the sky where the sun's rays were streaming through the clouds right at me.  I instantly felt his presence with me - not physically but I KNEW he was there, all around me - and he said, "Lynn, it's real.  It's all real."  That's all he needed to say <3  The memory of that encounter brings me peace to this day, and whenever I see sunrays coming through the clouds I feel closer to him :)  I know that doesn't necessarily help with the loss of your mom, but I wanted you to know I understand the loss and am praying it will get easier for you.

    Regarding farts???  Wish I COULD fart;-) I feel so blocked up right now it's crazy - tried to walk some and I hope that will help.

    Angela - my little doggie's my snuggle buddy too!  He hardly leaves my side on the worst days.  Animals are so intuitive :)

    Wanted to share a link: http://www.veneciasfoundation.org/ to a site started by a fellow Pink Warrior.  My best friend brought me her book yesterday, signed and passed though her sister-in-law who lives in Venecia's hometown.  What an inspirational read!!!  She's an amazing trooper!  AND, she's got these really cool t-shirts - I'm ordering one :)  "CRAP" on BC!

  • bikergirl
    bikergirl Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2013

    ((hugs)) Momx2

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Hi All, 

        Getting geared up for round 4 on wednesday.   Enjoying the semi normal days but getting caught up for the week to follow.  Always so much to do.  Round 3 was by far the hardest for fatigue.  Still having throat issues, but that accompanies each infusion.  Looking forward to getting rid of the "red devil" for good, but not looking forward to the aftermath.  Took me almost 10 days to recover from 3 let alone 4, but at least we will be on the downhill side.  Bring on Mr. Taxol.  I suppose better than the tax man.......have a great week.  Praying minimal side effects for all................

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