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  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    I think you're also in touch with Whippetmom over on her Breast Implant Sizing 101 thread, right, Momto7?  If not, she is a great resource.  She can give you an idea of good questions to ask, etc... I've just not heard of direct to implant (no TE) placement of the Allergan 410... maybe it's a new thing.  Is he placing the implant sub-muscular?

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited July 2013

    I posted about a month ago...I moved in the meantime...so catching up and read thru the last 2 pages of posts...agree totally about the 410s.  Very very disappointed.  Nothing has changed.  Left side is flat but soft.  Right side is hard as a rock and double the size  STILL.  I did the le massage...nothing.  When I get insurance again, I'll get an ultrasound and see what is making this fool look and feel like a baseball.  (I had infections and that side 'blew up' and never went down despite 2 needle drainages)  We've explored all the possible reasons...and nothing sticks...I'm just bitching.  This is my second set...seriously, the sooner we realize we're not getting our old boobs back, the better.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2013

    Ruth:  Sorry to hear you're still having problems.  You're entitled to bitch.  hope you don't have to wait too long for new medical care.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    Ruth did you have gummies the first time around?

    I'm sorry you're so unhappy.  Hope things will soften up.  I don't understand why one side is larger... are both implants gummies?  Did you have radiation?

    And I agree with Minustwo -- you're entitled to bitch and I hope you can get insurance again soon.

  • momto7
    momto7 Member Posts: 225
    edited August 2013

    Lilah I went to see the PS wednesday and yes he is putting it behind the muscle I won't be getting the gummies  but instead we decided on  the sailine ones  he said they will be better so many decisions ugh!

    Yes I am on the breast implant sizeing thread





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  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013
  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Has anyone switched from gummies to cohesive rounds? I am almost 3 weeks post-op. These gummies feel so big, I know I have some swelling, but I'm having love/hate with them. PS says give it 6 months and then I can make a decision....wanted to know if anyone made the switch and if so, were you happier?

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited August 2013

    My 410 Allergan original anatomical 'gummies' are little larger than I would have liked, but I love the shape.  No rippling, no sagging, great clevage.  They're a bit harder than rounds, but they do move & can be adjusted into a push up bra.  I've had them two years & I'm still considering going smaller, but I'll stay with the 410s.

  • blanviper
    blanviper Member Posts: 108
    edited August 2013

    planofoodie- I would wait before you make a decision. It takes a long time for swelling to completely go away and swelling can make your implants seem larger and harder. Your muscles need to relax as well. I actually went from a round to a Sientra to get a better match to the non UMX side, but I did wait 6 months to make the switch. My implants changed in appearance for months after surgery.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Thanks, blanviper!  That really helps. I wanted to go smaller than what I was originally, and my tissue expanders were smaller, and I liked that size. I think because of projection, he put a bigger implant, but it now feels like the same size as prior to BC.  I am hoping that after the swelling goes down, they will go down.  Hopefully, they will be smaller.  They just feel so "FULL" on the sides!  Like really spread out.  They are getting prettier as the weeks go by.  How long did it take you to really see the final "result"?

  • blanviper
    blanviper Member Posts: 108
    edited August 2013

    planofoodie-

    I think implants tend to be wider than natural breasts to begin with, so maybe some of that might not change as much when swelling goes down. I know I hated the way my implant looked for a good two months, both the original smooth round and then the gummie. I could see that the gummie had a more matched shape to my natural breast immediately, but too much projection and sitting a little high. I think my muscles relaxed because by 3 months out, it seemed to sit a bit lower and looked less full. I took bromelain after my revision surgery to help reduce swelling and i think it helped.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Blanviper!

    Well, my PS wants me to wait a good 4-6 months before making a decision due to changes that will occur.  Now that you have had both, are you happier with the gummie compared to the round?  I still have a ways to go before I can make a decision -- I'm only 3 weeks post op today.  :)  

  • blanviper
    blanviper Member Posts: 108
    edited August 2013

    Definitely happier with the Sientra oval based anatomical gummie than the smooth round. The sloping nature of it matches my natural side way better and the shape itself seems more like me. It is firmer than the smooth which means that the projection is always more apparent than the smooth one in instances where it shouldn't necessarily be, like lying on my back. You could tell both were different from the natural side but the smooth round is pliable enough where it flattened out some. Because of that, on me it also rippled and distorted way more and I have too large-ish areas of thin skin that it was a problem for. In some workout tops and bathing suits you could see that issue with the round gel as well as the top edge. That always looked too fake on me especially because of the matching of a natural breast.

    Do i wish the Sientra was softer? yes, but it is softer than the 410 according to the PS and a few websites I've been to. I way still have a very small implant put in on my natural side to give me more upper pole and fake perkiness to match the Sientra better. Depends on how much weight I lose.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    I have the Allergan 410.  I think aesthetically they are very pretty, but the just don't move.  I like the idea of the being able to move the round implants some, and how they flatten some when you lay down (acts more like a real breast).....I'm not sure how much rippling I would have if I switch, so trying to figure out what is more important.....so hard to tell.  It's still too early for me, and I pray that once some of the swelling goes down that they will be a little smaller, but the shape I am liking more every day....wasn't too sure at first because it seemed so "flat".  I did hear that the sientra's were softer than the 410's.  

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Is there a link on this forum where we can go look at pictures?  I could post mine, too.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    Planofoodie -- you only had your surgery a few weeks ago.  After a few months the 410 will soften some.

    Also I sent you a PM about The Picture Forum.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Lilah, after a few months, how much did your 410's change?  Did they get a little smaller to you (or seem that way?)

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    Not smaller... well, there was some swelling that went away (so technically a little smaller)... just more pliable.  Though they DO stay pretty much where they are. 

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    What other changes did you notice in 3-4 months?

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    My 410's changed a great deal in 4 mths. They started off very swollen and distorted, and rounded off over time. They became a tad smaller and more defined. I would get regular tightening around the implants as the peck muscle relaxed. One became quite soft, the other stayed tight. I didnt lovd the placement or shape for me. I too did not like the rigidity or firmness. I had expected soft and round, not wide firm and rigid. I ultimately changed to another gummy, the Mentor CPG (narrower & rounder looking). I was drawn to the softer pliable round implants, but felt down the track they may ripple and go out of shape. Who knows. Hard call. I still have firm implants, "soft to the poke but not to the grope" lol. I am becoming more accepting of the firmness and don't notice it as much. Sleeping on one side uncomfortable still.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    That really helps, Virgilia!  Are you liking the Mentor CPG versus the 410's better?  

    I'll see how mine changes in the following months and see how I feel.  yes, I agree -- I am drawn to the softer, pliable round implants but wondering about rippling, etc.  It IS a tough call!  I had lunch with a friend who is a year post her reconstruction.  She has rounds and we "compared".  Her foobs were beautiful.  I didn't see any rippling, but he did some fat grafting to help with that.  She said when she leans forward, you can see it (we were in a bathroom in a restaurant, there was too much shadow for me to see it).  I am having lunch today with another friend who is 2 years post reconstruction -- it will help give me a better idea.  I can actually sleep fairly well on my sides -- though they are still VERY noticeable and still feel very foreign.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Virgilia,

    Are the Mentor CPG's softer than the 410's?  Do you like them better?

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    I much prefer the look of the Mentor CPG, they look like a younger breast on me. They appear to sit up in a bra (like my natural breasts did) as opposed to sitting lower in the bra like the 410's. Being a bit narrower, they fit into a bra perfectly now. I also had a bit of lipo at sides which would have helped. They feel a tad softer, not very significant though. Mostly pleased with the shape. Another good anatomical option is the shaped Sientra (on a round base). It is supposed to be the softest of the shaped gummies.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    That's good to know!  I do wish the 410's were narrower.  I need to check out the Mentor CPG.  I don't think my plastic surgeon carries the sientra.  When you say anatomical sientra on a round base, are you meaning like the 410's?  The base is round, but from the side it's anatomically shaped.....

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    Yes, that is right about the Sientra. The base is round, but the profile is teardrop shape(anatomical). There is no one on the pic forum. I would love to see what they look like in a reconstruction, and hear how soft they are.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    The Sientra is relatively new.  Approved in the last year.  So there aren't a lot of women who have them yet.  I agree I'd like to see how they look in a reconstruction!

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    Also I think there is some variation from woman to woman on how soft any implants end up feeling and how much they move.  Even gals with smooth rounds report a lot of variability (especially in how much they are or aren't moveable).  The thing with the teardrop shape, in any brand/style, is that it needs to be firmly anchored so that it won't turn inside the pocket due to the very specific shape (if it turns in the pocket, then you get a very funny looking breast).  That is why anatomicals are always textured (helps with adherence). Smooth rounds can turn in the pocket because no matter what they are always the same shape. 

    A lot depends, in either case, on your anatomy.  How thick YOUR pectoral muscle is (under which the implant is placed) will affect how the implant feels no matter what the material.  So, for example, when I was feeling samples of gummies, smooth rounds and saline implants... there were differences... but ultimately how the gummy feels IN me is different than how it felt when I held it in my hand (my muscle being a factor I could not pre-feel).

    Virgilia -- I suspect mine changed more than I remember.  It's been three years since my exchange.

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    Definitely something to think about -- I, too, felt the different implants prior to my reconstruction.  My PS thought the gummies would be best due to the shape of them.

  • TLR
    TLR Member Posts: 55
    edited August 2013

    Hi Gummie girls. I had my exchange on August 16th. Just uploaded a few pics on the picture site. I feel like they are really wide and flat and maybe a little too close together. Have a look and let me know if there is a certain model of bra that you might recommend. I know they will change over the months to follow but want to make sure I am wearing the correct support. I'm currently just in the surgical bra.

    Thanks, Tracey

  • planofoodie
    planofoodie Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2013

    I felt the same way after my surgery.  My PS wanted me to stay in my surgical bra for 24/7 for at least 3 weeks.  I bought another one to rotate with so I could keep one on while washing the other.  My gummies have changed a bit in just 4 weeks (I hit 4 weeks today).  Hang in there!  I do agree with you, though -- finding a bra has been a little bit of a challenge.

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