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  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    Belle- I have mixed feelings. If the node is smaller or gone, then we can assume it was metastatic. If it remains the same, it might be benign. Will have to be in the "wait and see" club I so hate, but it's better than many alternatives I know!  I think your daughter's thoughts are good. I almost feel that substitute ones err on the side of being even more cautious, so that would be good for you to get peace of mind. I'll be thinking of you on Friday. Please keep us posted.

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    oh, btw, my PT for my hip was helping me some with my shoulder that was been bothering me (unrelated to cancer), and he said that he recently went to a conference where someone from a cancer center was presenting to them about how more GS and PS should refer mastectomy patients for PT because of the high % of shoulder and back problems post-surgery.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Cjrt,mmm you are right about mixed feelings-didn't think of that.. Ok,will pray it's the same :))) I'm sure my aches and pains are nothing but I would just feel better if they would do a scan or tumor marker blood tests or something besides feeling up my boob lol. I had problems with my shoulder before my bc. It started hurting about 2 months before I found my lump. While on chemo, had no pain,started back up with radiation. Probably because of position of my arm during rads. PC took X-ray said I had slight arthritis in it. Haven't had any pain for months until about 2 months ago. My back pain and rib cage concerns me more. After talking to another survivor,she said scar tissue continues to spread from our surgeries,it doesn't just form at the site. HUH who knew!!

    So maybe pt would help!!
  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    Hi Ladies,

    I hope you don't mind me jumping into this group.  I've been here a BreastCancer.org for about 10 months.  I have my regular thread that I'm on a lot but we are all still newbies and I am searching for some info on Tumor Markers.  Had my BMX Dec 4th 2012, 6 cycles of T/C. Finished April 25th. Had a normal CA 27.29 on June 14th.  (25) Six weeks later it was elevated to 52. My oncologist told me any inflammation at all can cause it to rise.  I had a intestinal issue in July caused by severe constipation(I think caused by Tamoxifen).  It caused a form of colitis.  I'm hoping this is the cause for it to rise I get retested tomorrow.

    The reason I ended up on this thread is I searched tumor markers and it bought me to this thread. Any info you have I would appreciate.  I'm trying not to stress but as we all know that's next to impossible. 

    Thanks in advance,

    Carla

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    Carla- Sorry for the trouble that you are experiencing. Honestly, I don't know much about tumor markers. I developed a met to my femur (could have been there all along, as I never had a PET). My TM were always normal. However, after finding the met and checking them again, they had risen to 60. Once I started treatment and the met was being addressed, they fell to 14 and stayed there. I know that I have heard some ladies say TM can be affected by other issues and are not reliable for everyone. I think some MO's don't even use them for that reason. Obviously I know how stupid it is to try not to worry, but hopefully you will get peace of mind soon!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Hi Carla, my MO doesn't do tumor markers,says they are not reliable because other things can make them rise or you can have mets and they stay low for some people. Plus because I am early stage,I hope you get good news soon. It's a roller coaster ride we are all on it seems like sometimes!! Please let us know what u find out! In my thoughts and prayers..

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2013

    carlads...I too had elevated markers after chemo.  They have now dropped to within the normal range

    cjrt...thinking of you everyday.  hoping the result is benign!!

    Maggie

  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    CJRT, belleeast and Mags,

    Thank you all so much for taking the time to answer my question.  My own oncologist even told me some oncologist don't run tumor markers on early stage BC, but it is protocol for the group he is in.  It worries me because I have never had a scan of any type.  He was going to do one in January.  He gave me the choice of having the blood test re-done or go straight to a scan.  My BS thinks I should have the blood test re-done before rushing into a scan. 

    You are all in my prayers.  CJRT, sending out a special prayer for you for a good report!!

    Carla




  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Hey,everyone,still in the waiting game but I feel better about it,the physician assistant talked to the head of the rad dept,Dr W who is the one who did my core biopsy and who told me it was bc. She said there are 2 areas of calcifications really small,likely benign,felt it was safe to wait til Jan to do another diagnostic mammo,no biopsy at this time. wait and see what it shows in Jan. PA wants me to go back to my primary care dr for back pain and rib cage pain,thinks it is my kidney. So no scans,go back in 3 months,will see my reg MO.

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013

    Hi Ladies.  I'm on original member of this group (I was famous for shattering my knee during chemo and having a double mastectomy while using a walker).  I'm back because I wanted to tell you that I appreciated all your support during that terrible time.  I've just been diagnosed with extensive bone mets.  We thought the aches and pains were from the AIs and switching seemed to help.  Then we moved into a new one-level house (remember my bum knee?) and thought that all the stress of moving was causing my back aches.  Unfortunately, that was not the case and I am riddled with cancer in just about all my bones.  I started on Afinitor with Femara (the only AI we had not tried yet) but the mouth sores were impossible.  I'm taking a week off for them to heal and then restart at a lesser dose.  As you can imagine, I am devastated and my family is also.  Guess I could use a few gentle hugs from old friends.  Hope I don't bring you down too much.

    Linda

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    Linda- I am typing on my phone because hubby is on my laptop, so please excuse typos. I am so very sorry to hear your news, but I know that the core group of ladies here have given me so much support since I found out about my bone mets in January. I'm so sorry to hear you are dealing with mets too. I felt horrible coming back to the group like a failure or the "downer" or everyone's worst nightmare, but I felt lost again and know how everyone here had helped me through the first time. Ironically I just thought about you a few weeks ago when I was on vacation and getting around on my new hip...I was wondering how you had recovered from your injury during chemo. Thinking of you and sending positive thoughts and prayers your way. Hugs...

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    Linda- I read info on here about a new osteoporosis drug that shows promise for bone mets that aren't responsive to traditional hormones. Have you seen it?

    Belle- I would take that as great news!!! Hopefully your gp will figure out the kidney thing quickly and it will just be a minor thing. Enjoy the weekend now that you can relax!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Linda,I am so sorry to hear your news.((((HUGS)))) Don't dare feel like a downer,this group is for support during good or bad news.



    I remember when you broke your knee and moved,was so hoping you were busy and enjoying life and your new house!! Do you know yet what your mo's plan is to treat the mets? There is a bone mets thread on the stage iv forum,u might check it out for some info. I've read that many live for years and years with bone mets. My prayers and thoughts are with you... Please post anytime you need support,to vent,scream,cry,curse... Whatever,we are here for you (((hugs)))



    Cjrt,I do take it as great news :)). I'm not going to worry about it,just wait and see. School starts here next week,I'll be busy picking up my boys from school pre k and kindergarten 3 x a wk. the end of Sept,I'm going on vacation with my daughter Cathy and her hubby Adam and their 2 girls-Disney world and universal :))
    I hope everyone enjoys the weekend.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Linda,did you have scans,I see where you had 5 positive nodes,was wondering if you had regular scheduled scans- bone,pet,cat? Or did mo just assume it was the AIs? I know my mo doesn't do scans but I didn't have pos nodes.

    I have a lot of aches and pains in my bones but I am walking 3 to 4 miles most days :))) this old body isn't used to that lol.

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited August 2013

    Linda:

    I am so sorry to hear your news.  You are never a downer here.  We love you and will be there for whatever support we can provide.

    Belleast, CJRT:  I'm thinking of both of you too.

    As for me, I've had another round of surgery.  This time for a blood clot in my shoulder.  They did a vein graft by using a vein in my thigh.  So far, I guess I am okay.  Just so tired of all the doctors, needles and poking and prodding.

    Love and hugs to all of us!

    RJ

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    Thanks mags and RJ.



    RJ- sorry to hear of your surgery but sending positive thoughts for a speedy recovery.



    Belle- the family trip sounds great! I'm a few hours south of there and haven't taken my kiddos there yet. You all should have a blast!

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2013

    Linda...I have no words except to say I am so sorry for the mets and we are here.  I hope they get the mix of meds that kick this thing!!

    Rj...feel better soon....surgery is the pits...my next go is this Wednesday...they tell me this one will be easier than the others...we shall see

    Mags

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Rj, so sorry to hear of your surgery,wishing you a speedy recovery. I hear ya about being so tired of the poking and prodding but I consider my self one of the lucky ones- compared to what some of the girls here have endured..

    Mags,will be thinking of you Wed,in my thoughts and prayers..((Hugs)

    Linda,((Hugs)) in my thoughts and prayers!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Ok,now I have something weird going on. My hands feel like they are on fire,started with my right hand-bc side-yesterday. Now both hands feel like they are burning,can't see any redness but I am pretty tanned. I put aloe vera on them,doesn't help. Anybody else have anything like this? Going to try putting them in ice water!!!

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013

    You guys are the best. Thanks for holding my hand.

    CJRT - I'm sorry to hear about your bone mets.  Sounds like you have a new hip.  I hope you are improving because orthopedic surgery on top of everything else is horrible.  You are way too young to deal with all this crap.  I guess we all are!

    Belle - I didn't have regular scans.  My symptoms were pretty much textbook for AI aches and pains.  We kept trying to switch AIs to see if it would help.  I was doing pretty well on Arimidex until about the time we moved.  I attributed the extra back pain to packing and stress.  It even seemed to get better so I waited until my regular appointment to ask for a switch to Femara.  Coincidentally, I found a lump in my neck the night before my appointment.  My MO sent me for a biopsy right away and it turned out to be positive.  That's when I got the PET/CT scan and found the worst.  I will be having them regularly now.  Part of me is mad because I am just too tough.  I should have been in the MO office complaining about the aches months ago.  The problem is that everything had a logical explanation - AIs make you ache, packing and moving causes back pain etc.  Oh well, it'a all hindsight now.

    RJ- sorry to hear about your surgery.  I sure hate all the prodding and poking too.  Speedy recovery to you!

    Mags- I will send positive thoughts your way for your surgery this week.  I had no idea you had so many issues with your reconstruction.  I hope that this moves you forward in your journey.

    Belle - I just saw you post about your hands.  Are you okay?  Have you ever had trouble with neuropathy?  I hear it can come on anytime.

    Take care, everyone!

    Linda

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Linda,bless your heart for asking about me. Well,tried the ice water eeeyoww SOB,don't know which was worse the burning or the bone pain up to my elbows!!! Took my mind off the burning for a few minutes anyway.. Lol. I then tried calagel,that seemed to help,thank goodness. I had some numbness,tingling in my hands during chemo and for several months after. But nothing like this,I sure hope people who have neuropathy don't have to live with something like that!! I don't know how a person could,I was about ready to go to the ER to get it checked out,my mind was thinking cellulitis because I got some nicks and scratches on my hands running into the rose bush while push mowing. Hopefully,it doesn't come back!

    Don't beat yourself up about not reporting your aches and pains sooner,more than likely your MO would have thought the same,it was the AI.

    I think those of us who don't get scans live with the fear that the MO's will just dismiss our aches and pains until we are in your situation. Cjrt found her mets because she injured herself -kickboxing. Thank The Lord for kickboxing lol!!!

    In my thoughts and prayers,((Hugs))

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited August 2013

    belle- i just had a random thought...is that the type of nerve pain that shingles presents with?

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Cjrt,mmm I don't know never had shingles.. So far this morning,not too bad. Right hand has slight burning,nothing like the past 2 days,thank the Lord :))

    How are you,saw your pic of your little girl-so pretty like her mama!!

    Does she like kindergarten? I have the boys today,Richard starts kindergarten tomorrow,Logan pre-k thurs,summer vacation is over,it went fast.:((

    Hope everyone has a great day!!

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013

    Belle - CJRT has a good point about shingles.  I had it briefly and it came out of the blue.  My MO gave me some sort of med that works if you take it right when symptoms show up and I felt better pretty quickly.  It's worth a call to the doc.

    Take care,

    Linda

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Linda,would it appear in hands,doesn't it present physical symptoms,too? Rash or blisters? Today has been a lot better:)

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013

    Belle - I did have a rash with my shingles.  It just seems like everyone is so different (I can't believe I said that since I hate it when my doc says it!).  I just want you to take care of yourself.  Glad you are feeling better today.

    Linda

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    I made appt for my back pain for tomorrow morning,I'll ask my dr about my hands,too.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Hi all,went to dr,no infection. Told her about back,rib cage shoulder pain. Also about hands and that my neck is still bothering me from car accident last fall. Felt like a hypochondriac lol. She put me on muscle relaxer and prednisone 20 mg 2 x day for 5 days.. Crap I hate steroids!!! Said if didn't help,could send me to pain management for injection for my neck,I think. I guess she is thinking back is a muscle,idk.. It doesn't feel like a muscle,oh well,I'll give it a try if it doesn't help next time I think I'll insist on some type of scan.
    She asked if there was a rash on hands,I said no. Didn't mention hands again. So no answer there,either!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited August 2013

    Maggie,hope your surgery went well,praying you have a swift recovery and get the results you hope for. In my thoughts and prayers ((hugs))

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013

    Belle - hope you are continuing to feel better.  Sorry you didn't get more difinitive answers.

    Praying for Maggie's quick recovery!

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