August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • Togetherness
    Togetherness Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2013

    Hello All!!



    Hope everyone is doing ok either waiting for chemo to start, having started their chemo and having minimal SE. I am feeling better than yesterday, but still dealing with side effects. I have a loss of appetite due to dry mouth and naseau, but still keeping hydrated. I have a terrible headache from the cytoxan so wish that would go away. May call the nurse tomorrow if I wake up with it again. The meds or sleeping gives me relief from the headache, but it has not gone away totally since Friday. Wishing everyone well!!

  • candi07
    candi07 Member Posts: 188
    edited August 2013

    gavisnsgrandma, my first chemo is this Friday....I'm so scared.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    The wig was successful today!  I just walked into work and owned it.  I pulled it off as soon as I got in the car to come home . . . LOL!

    I felt a little more joint pain (knees + lower back) then usual.  I asked the nurse practitioner about taking Claritin after the Neulasta shot . . . she said she never heard of it.

    This is pretty gross . . . all of a sudden my stomach get super duper bubbly and out of nowhere I had an emergency bathroom run.  It must have been the bean, carrot + kale soup.

    Day 3 after 1st round of chemo . . . not bad at all!

  • Jackie1966
    Jackie1966 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2013

    Hi there

    I too am starting 4 rounds of the TC regimen chemotherapy starting Aug 19 2013. I am vet nervous to start the chemotherapy. I have heard stories that have me quite concerned. Dehydration, dizziness, seizures? Please tell me these stories are more an isolated few than the norm? I have my oncology walk through on Thursday. Any other Aug sisters or perhaps spring sisters that could spread some light on their experience with this regimen.

    Thanks a bunch

  • Lindsey32
    Lindsey32 Member Posts: 13
    edited August 2013

    I am on the same treatment plan as you cutiekool. My first ac was on Thursday, August 8th with fluids and neulasta on Friday. Trying to determine if I should push past the 21 day to make a condensed treatment or stay as planned.



    I am only 33 and working full time. My port was just put in on August 5th. The medical oncologist has staged me at two for the fact that the three millimeter masses found in my lungs to be biopsied would cause more harm than good. I have planned for a double mastectomy next year once chemo is complete. Hopefully the radiation will allow for reconstruction.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Candi, please be reassured.  You are cared for and supported by this community.  It is unlikely that you will fel anythign but sleepiness due to the benadryl.

    Jackie, I did the very same treatment plan as you last year and it was absolutely fine.  I was tired during radiaiton but otherwise worked throughout without problem.

     Lindsey are you doign ACx4 every other week and then Tx12 weekly? Before surgery and the radiation.  

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    Has any August Sister on Cytoxan, Taxotere had any hair fall yet?

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    Hello everyone! Late to the show but I'm an August Chemo sis too as I had my first round of TC on Aug.1.



    I feel so lucky as SE have been minimal and no hair fall yet as of day 12. I got my wig already though and it was pricey but did you all know you can request a prescription from the onco for it and some insurance plans cover it?



    I am waiting to see what happens with the hair but see this as an opportunity to experiment. I got a Buff, a new scarf and found that people on Etsy make wild and crazy wigs that are cool. If it looks like I'll lose all the hair I'm getting a short wig there that is dark brown with pink and blue tips underneath for fun.



    I think I have been able to hold off SE (at least for now) by brushing my teeth 5 times a day with Biotene toothpaste then rinsing w Biotene mouthwash. My dental hygeneist also told me to get Biotene oral balance gel and use it every night before bed. All this stuff is available at Walmart.



    Also to keep SEs at bay I drink about 12 cups of fluid a day, use Optifiber to help with C, and take Colace. To help with Neulasta pain I've been taking ibuprofen. For gas, it's Tums and Prilosec. Also I have been walking constantly and that really, really helps. Plus my onco had me on tons of IV drugs before and had me on a 4 day regimen of a combo of antinausea meds. It worked!



    Hugs to you all. I know this is tough but we can all do it! I just am so thankful they caught this early (Stage 1a) and there are so many treatment options to beat this.



    Remember, we have cancer, it doesn't have us. We are all exactly the same people we were before we were diagnosed, and we'll be as tough as nails by the time we beat this!

  • Shalimar630
    Shalimar630 Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2013

    Hello Lisa, thanks for the tips. I want your onc. My first infusion is Wed, and I'm told I'll be given some things the morning of. I'm pretty anxious..

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    Hi Shalimar! Call your onco's office and ask if you will receive Ativan prechemo either as an oral drug or in an IV with chemo. Ativan is a great anti anxiety drug that also is an anti nausea med.



    It is doable and it's natural to worry. Bring someone you love with you on Wed. It helps. Have supplies to take like books or craft projects or a laptop and movies. Also bring light snacks and lots to drink!



    My best thoughts to you that it will be easy and your SE light.

  • carolpr56
    carolpr56 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    Hockey mommy - it's you and me today! Keeping my fingers crossed that we won't have more delays...I don't know about YOU, but I'm so anxious I started having se's early, lol! Nausea and mouth sores...

  • Gashgold
    Gashgold Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2013

    So it's real. You get through the diagnosis - no idea anything is wrong with you. Do the surgery which other than needing a second go at it goes pretty much ok. And you're feeling pretty good. Arm is doing great, breast is facing in a new direction and a fraction of her former self (3/4s to be precise) but a credit to the surgeon! So then you find yourself sitting in the onco nurse's office thinking why bother having all this ! I could just move on now...

    I thought I was handling this pretty well but when she said I had to have a port the stiff upper lip quivered. Please, please can you tell me out there that you can get used to the the alien invader, that you don't feel those tubes inside you. Pain is no problem , it's the concept that gets me. A lifetime of not sticking anything artificial in my body and then this. And it's there reminding me everyday that nothing is normal anymore. Worse, will the kids at school see it when I want to wear summer clothes?

    Chemo education tomorrow. Don't know the date for the port or chemo yet but some time this month. Nurse said they can do the port and 1st chemo the same day. Wig outfitting day too. Baldness I think I will handle(although the reality might be different but it is sort of fun finding hats -have you seen the beanie with built in eyebrows on asos? the kids will get a good laugh , i just had to have it). but the other thing that terrifies me is permanent weight gain.

    How are people going with that? Maybe it's a bit soon.

    So hi, I'm new, it's nice to be in your company for this unexpected turn of events!

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2013

    Gashgold,  I felt the same way, so opted for no port. Talk to your onc about it. As far as losing hair, I used cold caps so did not have to deal with hair loss.

  • encyclias
    encyclias Member Posts: 302
    edited August 2013

    Gashgold, I have no problems with my port.  It was put in last Oct and I don't even realize it's there most of the time.  Nothing wiggles around and it allows me to do all the things I want to do: swim at the beach, roll in the mud, no need to keep the area clean.  I did have to put a few summer tops away since they had very low and wide necklines where the port could be seen as a small bump on my chest, but otherwise I wear everything else.   I do plan to try to keep it for an extra year past when my onc tells me it can come out -- just as a safety net.  It has saved me lots of bruises and holes in my hands and wrists -- not just the chemo but all the blood draws, etc.

  • diane49
    diane49 Member Posts: 37
    edited August 2013

    Hi ladies...can I play too?

    Onc appointment on monday and chemo starts friday. Thought I was up to date on all this stuff but listening to you ladies makes me realise that I still have tons of stuff to read up on

    I still have tests to get done this week...chest xray and heart scan...and need to confirm appointment for upper endoscopy and colonoscopy. Can't seem to find out why these tests were ordered other than fact that having one cancer makes you a good candidate for others.

    Lots to fit in before next friday.

    Gonna have to bring someone to oncologist appointment to take notes...not staged yet but have had surgery...lumpectomy...and know that I am triple negative...

    At the beginning of this journey I thought triple neg was a good thing...haven't told family yet...want to wait until all the repults are in.

    I am off on sick leave right now...kinda toyed with the idea of going back but need more info on what I am susceptible to...I know colds and stuff like that but I work in an industrial plant in the waste treatment department...would I be more sensitive to the chemicals we use for treatment...can I be in an area with industrial waste

    Hard to know what to do

    I guess for now I am back to the books

    I wish you all the best of days and will be back again soon...hopefully with more answers than questions lol

  • Togetherness
    Togetherness Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2013

    Wishing Hockey Mom and Carolpr56 the best of luck with your first chemo treatment. The SE are manageable. Hope everyone else is relaxing or getting on with their routine. Everyone have a blessed day!

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Hi All, 

        I am from the July board, and thought I would pop over to your board and give some words of encouragement.  We don't get to much of that now days.

    Gashgold-I can SO relate to how you are feeling, as I have, and still feel on certain days that I dont want to do this and dont want to be here. Unfortunately we are, and will get through it.  I find that taking things day by day are what keep me going(I keep a written journal).  I cant think of all the other infusions and treatments that are ahead of me.  Seems so daunting.  I thank GOD and relish in the good days and bury my head and cry on the bad days(we are allowed).  The port for me was no problem(and I am a stomach sleeper), its just one more hurdle to getting well.  I still wear my low cut shirts, and no one has even noticed my port placement.  The more things you check off the closer we get to the finishline.  I worry about weight gain too, but after we rid ourselves of the demon and cater to our bodies needs during treatment we will have a full life to shed the few pounds our bodies needed to make it through the storm.  The hardest part for me was right after my diagnosis.  My mind was my worst enemy.  Keeping a clear mind and positive additude helped the most. Also seek comfort in your support team.  Familiy and Friends mean so much and they really want to be able to help.  This was hard for me as I am a pretty independent person, but what some of them have done for me have blown me away. We will walk through the storm but never be the same.  

     I have my last round of ac scheduled next week, and yes, with each round I get worried and scared, but I have my eye on that finishline, and we WILL make it!   God Bless you all........

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Gashgold, Diane, welcome but I'm sorry that you have to be here.

    Hello all, I am saying a prayer that your se's pass quickly.

    #2 of ACx4 amd Tx12 comes Thursday.  I do wish that I could turn the weight gian into a weight loss. 

    For those of you in the later stages or anyone, do you worry about surviving in the short term?  Not just will I see my kids grow up but will I be here next xmas, the follow new year's day, etc?  (Not sure that anyone here is stage 3 or higher).

    V

  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited August 2013

    Hockeymom, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Carol56, that you ladies will both get to start treatment today. I am going for my Pre chemo labs today and starting Thursday, I just keep going over everything in my head and I hope I am not forgetting anything😛

    Oregondarcy, hope you are feeling better today and always nice to hear about minimal SE'S.

    Shary🌞

  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited August 2013

    Welcome to all the new ladies that had posted since I was here yesterday, this is a great thread and we are all so encouraging to each other, I can agree with the port thing😛I get claustrophobic with artificial nails on but I got my port in 3 weeks ago , I was only 1 week post-op at the time and everything was still really sore but it is no big deal I fact most of the time I forget it is even there😄

    Wishing Carol and hockeymom good luck today, HVV and I are on Thursday and good luck to Diane and candi Friday and Shalamar on Wednesday. Isn't it nice to know we do not have to go through this alone. Better start getting ready for labs today and we are leaving tomorrow as my treatment is 3 hours away so we are taking the camper and staying in that a few nights.



    Shary🌞

  • carolpr56
    carolpr56 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    HVV, since I learned I'm TN I worry about making it the next 5 years....

  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited August 2013
  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    Gashgold, I was worried about the port, both surgery and having it but it has been no problem. First week it did creep me out but there was little pain just some shoulder aches which were helped by Advil. When I got my 1st (and only so far) chemo I realized it was a godsend.



    I have small veins and sometimes have to poked repeatedly for blood draws and IVs can be painful for me. I used the EMLA numbing cream an hour before and it did work.



    When they stuck me for chemo I barely felt it. Plus the needle was so short and small I felt glad my veins were being spared. I am on the Taxotere/Cytoxan regimen and the onco nurse told me Taxotere can be damaging to veins.



    And now I barely notice the port and most of my summer shirts cover it fine since its pretty near my shoulder. One caution tho: don't carry a heavy purse on the shoulder nearest the port for a while .. That hurt more than I expected!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    {{{Carol}}}  Triple negative = TN.  I am sorry.  I feel foggy-headed when I try to understand how this happened to someone who had only ever had their tonscils out.  I don't know where the balance is between appropriately informed but positve and upbeat and overly focused on negative outcomes.  I am usually overly cheeerful. pre-bc.

  • Jackie1966
    Jackie1966 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2013

    Oh that is good news. The Chemo scares me more than anything. My onc discussed tamoxifen for 10 years post radiation. I am considering ovary ablation or removal as I was told it had the same effect as going on tamoxifen (which I would prefer not to do if given the choice). Does anyone have any experience with ablation to suppress estrogen and progesterone positive cancers as opposed to taking medications to do it?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013
  • carolpr56
    carolpr56 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    Sorry, guys - the wifi here at the infusion room went down (gotta get their priorities straight, eh?). Shary, the deal with TN (apparently) is that if you beat it you know within the first 3-5 years ... Then the survival rates go up to meet the hormone positive cancer rates. That's why we are treating this so aggressively, chemo rads and pmx other side. Heck, I'll get rid of any organ I don't need and insurance will pay for, lol!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited August 2013

    Hello, I guess this is the place I need to be because my chemo should begin sometimes in August. I have triple negative IDC grade 3 (very aggressive). My tumor, at surgery, was only 6mm, but I am choosing to have chemo because of the invasiveness and aggression of the little devil. At surgery, "something" was removed in the area of my sentinel lymph nodes, but after the pathology report, it was found that there were no nodens in the tissue removed. I was told that my lymph nodes are very deep and if the surgeon had opted to find them, he would have made my whole side numb for life. I am numb under my arm anyway, which isn't really a bother, just feels odd when showering. I am 68, and I have read that oncologists usually don't opt to give older women chemotherapy when the tumor is smaller than 1cm (10mm), but I have also read that with triple negative disease, the aggressiveness warrants chemotherapy. There is nothing like Tamaxofen (sp) to take for 5 years with this subtype of breast cancer. It has not been discovered yet. All they know is that the 5-year meds do not work at all. The only thing I can do is eat a very low-fat diet, take vitamin D3, and exercise vigorously for 5 hours a week. My husband and I began hill-climbing. That gets your heartrate up quickly. We do this twice a day. This winter, I'm not sure what I'll do. Maybe the stepper we have. Don't know. I am awaiting my oncologist to return next Monday to begin the chemo. (You can choose to have it even with small tumors. I would rather have side effects for life than to not survive this monster.) Sharon

  • carolpr56
    carolpr56 Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2013

    Sharon, I am with you 100%!

  • peace777
    peace777 Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2013

    Carol and Hockeymom  good luck today.  Wishing you two little to no SE.   

    Welcome all new comers.  You have found a place of support, comfort, knowledge, spirituality, humor, friendship and sisterhood.  All going through the same thing in different degrees at different times.  Even though we all react differently to different meds or are getting different meds, there is always someone here that can relate and answer your questions.  We are fortunate enough to have sisters from previous months popover and give us advice. 

    Have a blessed day all

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