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  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited July 2013

    Shots tomorrow morning 💀. Two arthritis strength tylenols and 5 mg of Valium before I go...

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited July 2013

    Good luck!  I find that a walk afterwards keeps the [evening] pain away.

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited July 2013

    Mary,

    Sending good thoughts your way.

    *susan*

  • Peachy810
    Peachy810 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2013

    Hello ladies,

    This is my first post on the FAS forum, although I've been reading it for several months while I've been on Doxil, since I had been told that Faslodex would be my next treatment when Doxil eventually failed.  Well, after 7 months on Doxil, that day has come, and so last Friday I became an official member of the "bottoms Up" club!

    When the nurses (I had two) came in with the syringes, I knew what to ask, feeling quite knowledgeable from what I had learned from the ladies here.  My doctor even told me he was impressed!  Anyway, I began to ask all the necessary questions:  "Have the syringes been warmed?"  answer: "Yes, we always warm them."  "Uh, will you give the shots really slow?"  Answer:  "Yes, the drug is like molasses; we have to give it slowly."  But here's the big surprise, at least for me.  She said they would each give me a shot in each hip AT THE SAME TIME!  She said if they did them that way, it tricks the mind into thinking you're only getting ONE shot.  I braced for the worst, waiting for the pain, but, honestly, there was none...other than a tiny stick as the needles went in.  She told me that I should experience nothing more than soreness the next day that would be similar to having a sore arm after a tetanus shot.  And truly, that's all there has been.  I've barely noticed the soreness, and I've been able to sleep well on my back and on each side without pain.  I'm so pleasantly surprised!  Now I just hope the drug will kill the bc in my liver!  

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited July 2013

    Welcome Peachy. So glad to hear that your first injections went well!

    *susan*

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    Welcome to the Fanny Pack aka Bottoms Up Club, Peachy!

    Tina

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited July 2013

    Peachy, glad you had a good experience. I think I have trouble only because my right hip, leg, etc. have had so much trauma. My left side is always fine. Pajim, Susan, thanks for the good thoughts. I also find that massaging the injection sites, exercise, and heat help a lot.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited July 2013

    Yaaaay, the shots are over for another month. My regular nurse was on vacation, which really scared me, but two other nurses came and gave me both injections at the same time. So far, I'm doing better than ever before! I don't have lumps, even on the bad side, and no pain! 😊



    Also, my MO mentioned bisphosphonates again, and I told him that I REALLY am afraid of taking them because of ONJ. He said we'll do a bone density test, and if I need something for the bones, we'll do Evista. (Relieved sigh...)

  • marymoir
    marymoir Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Vent Alert!!!! Firmly in the grip of that d@mned scanxiety!!! Had bone scan and x- ray today to assess much increased pain in some of my known met areas + a few new areas. Had been hoping it was just due to too much activity during vacation a few weeks ago, but when the 2-week mark passed and pain was getting worse, DH dinally convinced me to call the doc since we are leaving in 2 weeks for our long-awaited 10-day "bucket list" trip to Greece and he didn't want me to shatter a hip while on some remote Greek island. While I agreed with his logic, part of my wanted to play ostrich, ramp up the pain meds, and just worry about any potential progression after the trip.



    So here I sit trying not to think about that report sitting in my onc's inbox, the results of which I won't know until my follow-up appt. day after tomorrow. My tumor markers are still in the normal range and continuing to decline, so I'm trying to take heart in that. Only problem is that I've also started having nausea again which makes me worry that the little bastards may be ramping up to throw another party in my liver again.



    Thanks for letting me vent. Feels better just to get it off my chest!! Daytime has been too busy trying to get my daughter ready for college (her orientation starts the day we leave for Greece!!) ... It seems like nighttime is the worst for having my mind work against me! Don't want to leave the Bottoms-Up club yet!!

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited July 2013

    Mary,

    Fingers crossed that you just "overdid" a bit. Greece... oh now that is on my bucket list. Sitting in the sunshine, eating little plates with spinach, calimari, olives... with a well-chosen drink. Keep Greece firmly in mind, as you wait for the blasted results. Hope your bottom continues to be the source of your treatments.

    *susan*

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited July 2013

    Today is treatment day. Hydrated all day yesterday in preparation and planned to sleep in a bit this morning. But, at 6am I started to hear helicopters and sirens. It got so loud, I crawled out of bed at 6:15. There is a seven-alarm fire right near me. Four three-families are burning in a very densly populated neighborhood. Everyone is safely out, but getting this fire under control is proving to be difficult.

    Really would have liked some more sleep, but so thankful that those are not my homes. Somerville is a very dense city, and yet very compassionate. By tomorrow, there will be groups collecting donations to help those that have lost their homes.

    *susan*

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    Marymoir, vent away! We all go a bit bats waiting for scan results, particularly when we have worrisome symptoms. If you know that report is sitting in your doctor's in box, why don't you give him/her a call this morning?

    And, yes, nighttime is the worst. It can magnify and multiply my fears so much that I give up trying to sleep, and just read through the hours until morning. 

    Waiting for news with you,

    Tina

  • marymoir
    marymoir Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Thx for the support, Tina and Susan!! Susan, hope your tx goes well today!! Sorry that your neighbors had such a tragedy -- but you're right...does sort of put the fanny pain in perspective on treatment day!!



    Tina, I took your advice and emailed the office saying (truthfully) that DH is swamped at work and I'd like to know if we're facing bad news cuz I don't want to ask him to take off work if everything's OK (well, as OK as things can be when u have Stage IV cancer!!).



    I'll let ya know what I find out. Thanks for holding my cyber-hand!!!



  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited July 2013

    Marymoir, I hope (a) your doctor gets back to you, (b) it's good news and (c) you have a fabulous time in Greece.  Especially c.

    Your doc should understand about your anxiety.  When I had my first (since treatment started) scan the nurse called me that night and the doc e-mailed in the morning.  I have no idea whether they do this for everyone but I felt well taken care of (so to speak).  I second the call/ask/e-mail approach for everyone!

  • Lynne
    Lynne Member Posts: 641
    edited July 2013

    Marymoir, It's good too vent! We need somewhere we can do it, and this site is the BEST! Everyone here is very compassionate and knows how you feel, because we've all felt that way. I'm praying that your scans come out great and you can have a wonderful vacation! I always ask for the results after vacation, if I have one coming up, so I can enjoy my vacation, but you know what? I worry about what the results are my whole vacation! I have friends and family that have been to Greece and they all agreed its wonderful. Enjoy!

    Lynne

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited July 2013

    Marymoir, we were in Greece in 2000 and had a wonderful time. It was very hot--they were having a heat wave-- but great. I hope you can relax and enjoy your vacation without worrying too much about the disease.

  • marymoir
    marymoir Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Good news!! I get to stay in the Fanny Pack!! I had asked to have the NP call if the results of the bone scan and x-ray showed no progression so we could save my DH a long trip in rush-hour traffic, and they just called to say the scan showed no new areas or increase in size of the known mets so they were canceling the appt!!! Needless to say I am ready to go celebrate...good thing my neighbor had planned a ladies' night for tonight (of course, it could have been a real drag if it had been bad news...).



    Thanks so much to my fanny pack sisters for talking me down from a ledge!! Now I can proceed full tilt with our plans to go to Greece (although I guess I shouldn't plan on any parasailing or donkey wrangling while I'm there!!)

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations Mary. AlWays ask. Remember they work for you not you for them. We only have this life and it shouldn't be used sitting around anxiously waiting for them to call us with t he news. It's the beginning of your independence.

    Parasailing? I went parasailing with my grand kids this summer and everyone thought I was nut, but it was one of the most freeing experiences I've had in years. So go for it, girl. Go for the whole shebang. Live, live live. It's all you've got.

    Teresa

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    A big YAY!!! Now go have fun! And please hoist a few glasses of those lovely white Greek wines to your friends in the Fanny Pack!

    Tina

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited July 2013

    Marymoir, what wonderful news! When are you leaving for Greece?

  • Groovywilma
    Groovywilma Member Posts: 450
    edited July 2013

    Hello!  I just joined the Faslodex club yesterday.  I read through some of the posts to prepare me for what to expect and the first injections yesterday went OK.  I think I was expecting worse!  So I'm hoping for minimal side effects, though have noticed the weird smelling pee almost immediately!  Thank goodness I did read about it here but I'm wondering is it going to be that way the whole time on faslodex?  Or just for a while after the injections?  Anyhow, thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here! 

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited July 2013

    Welcome to the Bottoms-Up Group or Fanny Pack. We answer to either! I have never had the pee smell, so can't comment. So glad that your first injection was 'ok.'

    *susan*

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited July 2013

    Hi Groovy, welcome to the club.  Hope the drug is gentle for you.  Many ladies have very few side-effects.  Maybe it's because we don't remember anything anymore?

    I get the smell -- it usually lasts for a few days, but sometimes there's a whiff a week later.  Last dose I didn't notice it for more than a day, but see the last sentence of the paragraph above.

    Pam

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    Groovywilma (I have always loved your screen name),

    Welcome! I never have the barnyardy/castor-oily pee fragrance longer than a day or two. It usually occurs several days to a week after the injections. It is more pronounced in some months than in others.

    Tina

  • hollander
    hollander Member Posts: 213
    edited July 2013

    Welcome, Groovywilma-- 

    I've been very lucky with Faslodex so far... very minimal SE's and great nurses doing the injections.  I usually have the funny pee smell within a day or two of the injection, and it hasn't lasted more than a day or so.  I try to drink even more water than normal to try to flush out any lingering effects, and it seems to help. Good luck with Faslodex-- hope it works like a charm for you!

  • Groovywilma
    Groovywilma Member Posts: 450
    edited July 2013

    Thanks for the welcome!  It's so helpful to have a place to ask questions and to relate to others who have similar experiences.  Does anyone know if you have to stay on the exact dosing schedule or is it ok to be off a few days, say 4 or 5 days off?  I am doing the "loading doses" still but on the 2 week date I will be out of town (in San Francisco to see my favorite band, the Red Hot Chili Peppers!!!).  The doc said I could do that 2nd dose when I come back, which is 4 days later.  Do you know if this will have a negative impact?  I'm wondering if I should do it before I leave, but that will be less than two weeks.  Thanks for your input! 

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    Groovywilma,

    If your doc says it's okay, it's okay. Not sure about "official" timing for the second loading dose, but the protocol for the injections post-loading doses is every 28 days. Giving or taking a couple of days on either end is not a big deal.

    Enjoy the concert!

    Tina

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited July 2013

    Groovywilma,

    If your doc says it's okay, it's okay. Not sure about "official" timing for the second loading dose, but the protocol for the injections post-loading doses is every 28 days. At that point, giving or taking a day or two on either end is not a big deal.

    Enjoy the concert!

    Tina

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited July 2013

    I did the loading doses on time so can't say anything to that, but next month I have two trips scheduled with the one day in between for the shots.  When I asked if I really needed to come back to town on THE [scheduled] day, he said heck no we'll do it the next week. 

    He's a big believer in QOL so I don't know whether he's putting that ahead, but the blood levels shouldn't alter that much.

    The reason for the second loading dose is it takes a while for the blood(?) levels of the drug to ramp up.  They give the second one to get the level up faster.  After that it's maintenance.     [I hope the info I just gave isn't bogus.  It's certainly true for letrozole, tamoxifen, pain meds, etc.]

  • milehighgirl
    milehighgirl Member Posts: 444
    edited August 2013

    Well ladies, it's been quiet in here for several days so am passing along that I flunked out of the fanny pack.  After only two months, it's clear it's not working so doc is switching me to Xeloda (ugh!).  Hope to be back some time in the future!

    Blessings to you all.

    Sue

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