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  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    I love the Cottonelle wipes, great for diarrhea too!

    HVV-is your tongue white?  It could be thrush and if so you need to call your Dr and get on some medication.  The thrush kind of burned in my throat and even caused some discomfort in my chest.

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited August 2013

    IPC, yes to the reflux. It did not appear as a side affect much until after round 4! MO perscribed Reglan 3X per day. Seems to help.

    Two days into Tamoxifen......notice nothing yet!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Darn ,thought I posted earlier, but it must not have gone through.



    Lorrie, I baked something each time I went to chemo.

    Today I went for my follow up appointment and baked again.

    Here is a link to a similar cake (the linked one my son made)

    http://www.wilton.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=145444&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=

    I made men with fresh raspberries on top and surrounded the outside with raspberry Milano cookies.

    I call this my "idiot proof cake" as no one sees the frosting, so it doesn't matter how much crumb you get into it! Lol



    Pat

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Today's oncologist appointment was a bit of a disappointment.

    I think I need to look elsewhere as my score of 1-10 with this one has always been around a 6 or so..,,



    She asked if I were taking over the counter anything, so I replied vitamin D, and should I continue with it (as she had recommended it)....she had to look it up in the computer. Yes, continue.



    Hair re growth, she thinks around mid-September....my last chemo was July 8.

    (I did start biotin yesterday, didnt even bother to tell her)



    She asked about neuropathy, told her I didn't have any and she said "I guess your icing worked"....wish she wold say she might recommend it for others?



    I asked about a PET scan ....yes, knowing it is an unnecessary test, but come on, what's one more test! She said if she were an older oncologist it would have been ordered, but the new thinking is it is unnecessary. (Sigh)



    I will see her in 3 months....so I asked why, becuase I really don't like her and why waste a day! Response was to basically interview me to see if I am taking the Tamoxifen regularly or if I am having an issues with bloodwork (which will test liver function, kidney function, blood counts and vitamin D). Will see her every 3 months after that.



    She will not look at estrogen levels in the blood, as she will wait to see when my period stops then decide to move me from

    Tamoxifen to something else. Period can stop and start up again randomly...so she wants a stopped period, I believe she said, for two years before she would move me to a different treatment.



    I asked what my "status" was...she said NED (no evidence of disease) based on the surgery and the chemo.

    Really? Because there was no additional testing done after chemo, so I feel this NED is just a label SHE is comfortable with, if I had NOT had chemo would she have said I still had cancer? Whatever....



    I am up the whole 25 lbs I had lost prior to treatment, I think because I have given up eating healthy and my exercise is crap too. I need belly fat for my DIEP, which I can't get scheduled because the imbecile in the Dr. Office cant seem to get answers from insurance (I've been reaching out to her for 7 weeks)...I am MISERABLE not knowing WHEN this surgery will take place so I can plan my life! School year is starting, my Girl Scout troop is starting, etc. etc....how the heck am I supposed to plan anything! UGGGH. I think I am going to go and call NOLA (New Orleans breast center) to see when they might schedule me for, they at least did their insurance homework in UNDER ONE WEEK! I would much prefer to have it done close to home, but I am going to lose my mind waiting..

    Ok, I'm done!



    Pat



  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    Wow Pat I'm sorry.  I love my Oncologist.  I wonder what the deal is with Tamoxifen and having a period or not.  I'm going to be doing it and had a full hysterectomy in 2010, so obviously I haven't had one in a while.  I didn't get a PET scan either, I asked about it and my Dr said he didn't feel it was necessary and he is OLDER, lol.  Idk what to tell you.  {hugs to you Pat and anyone else who needs one today}

  • MariaNL
    MariaNL Member Posts: 118
    edited August 2013

    I'm not done till the beginning of October,can't wait for my month break before rads.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Teresa! I could always use a hug!



    Don't want to say I am "happy" your doctor didnt order a PET, but it IS comforting, I guess? (Lol). Teresa, I'm guessing they will look at your age and estrogen levels ? Ten decide which protocol?



    Maria, I hope October arrives quickly for you with minimal side effects.



    Pat



  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Patty I was supposed to meet with mo on Monday but office called to reschedule. He is older and I was going to ask him about pet scan. At stage 3 I live in fear of mets as I have seen many women get them soon after treatment. Interesting bs and mo like to say I am cancer free but sounds like platitudes to me. Last time I asked him how he knew chemo was working since I had mx first. Don't worry you are cancer free was the answer. Chemo and rads just insurance policy. Hope he is right!



    Rang that gong nice and loud today then broke down in tears. It was more a cumulation of emotions building up through each chemo treatment along with happy tears. Hard to explain but I tried so hard to be strong and positive through the last 16 weeks that it just broke lose today. Dh couldn't quite understand. Glad I have you ladies.



    Lisa

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Pat...

    Im sorry... Your Onc apt sounds like it sucked.... I'd say we had the same doc, except mines a dude. But I have lost a lot of confidence with him from the beginning. I just tell myself "I only see him once in a while" while my nurses, friends, the Internet & THIS group has been the most helpful and informative for me.



    I'm upset with one of my girls today. Since getting the picc line and SEs lasting longer, I've had to have the conversation with her to stop asking me to watch my 3 month old grandson until I'm done with chemo and the picc line is out. She has continued to ask & I have taken him a couple of times, but it knocks me out for days afterward & I can't risk my picc (not allowed to lift more than 5-10lbs...) well, if you knew me, you'd know that I'm still carrying groceries and such when I shouldn't.



    Anyway, she texted me today to ask if I'd watch him overnight tomorrow night (she works 8pm to 7am) I hate it! It makes me feel like a terrible grandma, but I told her no & to try to recall the discussion we had & that every time she asks and I have to say "no" it makes me feel bad...

    I get a scathing text back telling me "sorry for asking my mom for help" & so on....



    This is our youngest and probably the most clueless of what I've been going through because I try to keep up a good front for the girls... She doesn't ask how I'm feeling.... She couldn't tell you when my treatments are.. If I'm in bed in the middle of the day, she calls me a bum for taking the day off work without even asking why I'm in bed... In fact, when she texted, I had to leave work early and was trying to get a nap in...... Clueless!



    I guess I'm just venting! I just got done with a crying jag on what a horrible grandma I must seem to her, but she's just going to have to get over it.....



    I SUPER F$&CKING hate cancer!



    Thanks for the cake ideas Pat



    Hugs to all who need them! & happy thoughts!

    Lorrie

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lisa, it is a very emotional time. Move probably cried more after my last chemo than ever!

    I agree with wanting the PET, and about the platitudes.



    Lorrie,

    Your daughter can't see past her own situation. Stop answering her texts and phone calls when you are resting, napping, etc....then get back to her LATER, WAY LATER, and tell her you were wiped out from chemo and doctor said you need to rest. Doctor said you can't pick up things, etc..,blame the doctor. "I'd love to help you out but the doctor said I can't". Maybe she will get the idea. If she doesn't, tell her to call the doctor and ask for permission for you to babysit! Lol. Damn docotrs, make her direct her anger there! :)

    And you are not a bad gramma, you are just going through a crappy situation. Sounds like you would do ANYTHING for your grandchild and your children, just that you can't right now, big hug for you...you need to take care of YOU first so you can help them later.

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Lisa,

    Congrats on last chemo! I'm sorry it was so emotional, but it's to be expected... I'm tearing up just imagining my last day.... Not that I want the treatments... Just thatvwe have all endured so much through it. Medically, physically, emotionally... & I'm with you! I don't know what kind of shape I'd be in without this discussion group! I feel like I know some of you like good friends..... Unfortunately & fortunately, I don't think our hubby's will ever understand.



    I know this is the "may chemo group" but I hope we all stay in touch here throughout the rest of our treatments....



    I may even solicit for a couple email addresses before we are all done.... Hahaha

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2013

    Wow! It is so good to read of all of you making it through chemo. I am envious. I have 2 more DD Taxols to go. My weight gain has exploded from the steroids. I am so swollen and uncomfortable. The same thing happened with both my pregnancies and after they were done, I peed the weight away in weeks. Sorry for TMI. I am hoping the same thing happens. So swollen though, so uncomfortable.

    I normally go out in public with a wiglet and hat. A couple days ago I went out with a scarf and got a surprising amount of looks. Most of them were compassionate but it was weird.

    I got winded walking around Target and had to sit down. I found out from my Onc that my red blood cells have dipped into the low zone. They have been hovering on the threshold. I am so tired all the time.

    As far as sleep, Ativan doesn't really do it for me. Tylenol PM works really well though.

    My husband won't let me have any wine. :(

    Just wait until two weeks after that last chemo on 9/3. I'm going to go wild.

    Congrats to all who have gotten through.

    I am not looking forward to rads after but I am looking forward to eventually getting my life back.

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2013

    lpc - Yea for ringing the bell! Done with chemo!!! I'll be doing that in 2 weeks and can't wait. I feel like chemo is like running a marathon I didn't train for. I know I'll cry tears also....just such a relief to have gotten to the other side of it.

    Annie

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Annie... Me and you on the 22nd! Woo hoo!

  • Debwarrior
    Debwarrior Member Posts: 72
    edited August 2013

    Hi everyone,



    Just wanted to say that I am exactly one week post chemo. It was very nice to reclaim my Thursdays today. Today is the first day I haven't felt like total crap after my last treatment, so that's encouraging. Im also suffering with the constipation, but I"m hoping as my stomach recovers I'll be able to eat more veggies and fruit and that will get better. I do alternate taking Miralax and Senna. It helps some but not entirely. The toes on my right foot have been frozen for the last week, but I'm starting to get some movement out of them, so maybe the neuropathy is starting to slowly wane. My feet hurt though and I''m still tired. Like the others who have finished, I tire quickly and my fifteen year old daughter asked me why I walk so slowly today. Told her I didn't want to, just don't have the energy to go much faster. I ended chemo with some neuropathy, a sour stomach, a stabbing pain in my big toe, fatigued, anemic and seven pounds up. Could have been worse. I hope all of these things go away over the next month or months. It does feel good to be done because I didn't feel like my body could handle much more chemo.



    Lorrie, I can't imagine taking care of a baby during or after chemo. It sounds like your daughter doesn't understand how much fatigue comes with chemo. Pat had some good ideas.



    Congrats Lisa on finishing and to all who have finished and I am sending good thoughts to all who are still in the process. Each week gets you closer to the finish line.

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2013

    Congrats to everyone who is done. Only 1 more for me. Sitting at work now, creeping around the hallways like a neulastized skeleton (not that I look like one with the weight gain, ha!)

    Pat - sorry that your doc didn't order a PET. I asked for one because of the cancer they didn't remove during surgery, that was in my internal mammary nodes (behind the breast bone). I was glad she agreed. In the past I have asked about knowing if the chemo is working, and all they can say is that it is the best medicine out there, and history has proven that it works. Sheesh. So, not that I'm happy that there was cancer in my body they didn't take out, but maybe it will make me feel better because it's trackable (and hopefully fully obliterated!)

    My fun story about the onc is that out of my 8 treatments, she hasn't been able to be there 4 times! My first I wanted to start right away, so we both agreed since we had an info session, I would do infusion 1 without her. But she was out for infusions 5 and 6, and then I get a call yesterday saying she still wants to meet with me next time since it's my last time for chemo, but she won't be there on my scheduled day. Couldn't she have told me on Wednesday, when I saw her for infusion 7?! So now I have to go in Tuesday late afternoon to see her, and then Wednesday for my last chemo. Sigh. What can we do?

    They are starting me on Tamoxifen after my exchange surgery (3 weeks post-chemo). She mentioned she didn't want me on it during the surgery for fear of blood clots. I guess we'll discuss it more when I see her on the 20th.

    Lorrie - you have been a strong and courageous woman to even attempt taking care of a baby during this time (extra hugs for all the grandmas and mothers out there). If there is ever a time to take for yourself to help heal, it's now! And you know what, it'll give you your strength back sooner, I bet. 

    Has everyone heard it's about 2 months post-chemo that we start getting our hair back? Hoping for some holiday fuzz on my head for Thanksgiving. HA!

    Arya - I'm with you re: 2 weeks post last chemo!!! My hubby and I have planned a post-chemo vacation to Vermont to visit cheese makers and wineries. I bet I'll take one sip and be drunk as a skunk. Cheap date, I guess. Ha.

    Sorry this was a long post. I've been reading everyone's posts every day but chime in very little. But I am always so grateful for this group!

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Lorie, your daughter is being selfish. Don't feel badly.

    Lpc. Congrats on being done.



    This is my first week in forever where I've worked a full 40 hours. No docs appt or anything!!! I'm still exhausted and still overweight. I ran a marathon in jan and chemo is much harder!!!



    Looking forward to a beer on the beach tomorrow

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Thanks everyone for the congrats on finishing.



    Ljaeger are you doing rads? My ps wants to wait til after rads to do exchange after rads but 3 weeks post chemo sounds much better. Really trying hard to be all done by December 31 to avoid another deductible! Have a great time in Vermont.



    Kate beer on beach sounds lovely. This should be my last bad weekend so maybe I will get to beach soon. Have missed beach and pool much this summer.



    Happy weekend to all



    Lisa

  • JennaJMU
    JennaJMU Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2013

    LJaeger if you don't mind me asking, how did they find your positive internal mammary node? Was it a sentinel node when they did the test with the radioactive dye?

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Happy friday all!



    I'm getting pain in my breast that my lumpectomy was done, but not near the incisions... Anyone else with a lump removed having anything like that?... I resolved that I'm healing slower going into chemo 2 weeks after my second surgery, butvthis is a new pain. Not horrible... Just feel it now and again.

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie,

    I have random breast pains too...mostly on the lumpectomy side but sometimes in the other breast as well. I read (in a book at my oncs office) that herceptin can cause breast pain around the surgery site. When I asked about it, the PA said that healing takes awhile and the pain and burning sensation I have is normal. So I guess it just goes with the territory.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend

    Annie

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Annie, now that u mention it, I do feel pain twinges in my "good" breast too....... Thank you for posting! I was beginning to freak out....

    I so can't wait till chemos over! I know I have to do rads and Tam..... But just to be done with chemo... I'm planning a party about 3 weeks after my last chemo....... That is.. If I'm not in Mexico on some desolate beach...



    My sweetie and I went to MX a couple years ago for him to help them drill wells (I sat on the beach for 9 days) a small village.... No tourism... It was amazing!



    I'm hoping for the same! No tourism.... I just wanna swim with the kids in the village.. Eat tapas....



    We are almost there!

  • robin_in_SJ
    robin_in_SJ Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2013

    Ukkate, Congratulations on your last treatment! I have 2 more to go and like you plan to keep you with board as well.  It sounds like you had a loving relationship with your mom and that she is in your heart during the anniversary of her passing.  I'm sorry she didn't have a chance to spend time with your babies.  WOW, congratulations on getting out of the chemo chair. I had my 2nd Taxol treatment and with AC I could drink water all day long was always thirsty, with Taxol I would perfer not to drink. It’s easier if I mix it with OJ or add some lemon juice.

    Argynnis, I had Taxol #2 yesterday and I'm hoping for no bone/joint and muscle pain which I had on the first.  I've had hot flashes for the last 7 years and the chemo has only made them worse.  I always wake up several times night in a sweat.  I have the AC on, a ceiling fan and a desk fan.  My DH calls it the wind tunnel…he has the blankets ;-)

    Itiswhatitis, I love having milestones set in my mind. It really helps getting through all the testing, surgery, chemo.... I feel a lot better now that I'm past the 1/2 mark with chemo and I'm finding taxol easier than AC.  Your SIL is a piece of work.  If another person told me how good I look I'm going to lose it.  I am actually avoiding people because that is all I hear.  Followed by, "how are you feeling".  Most people really don't want to know the devil in the details (BC is a special kind of hell) so I say a few half truths. The new one, Taxol is much easier but don’t meton all the new lovely SE. I need better answers, what I want to say would leave people with their jaws hanging.

    Pat, Love the quote, it's so true. Yesterday, I asked my MO about the last visit and if there is anything special about appointment. If he goes over important information I want my husband to be there to help ask follow-up questions.  Yesterday, my SIL went with me and she didn't hear the MO talking so when I asked her if I heard him right she said I couldn't hear him.  Oh well.  He also said I lhave NED which is true if they aren’t looking but I guess from the MO POV they only run so many tests.  I had tons of scans before the surgery.  I’m stage IIIa and worried that I’ll freak out over every ache and pain after treatment.  Let’s hope they’re right NED.

    MomofSam, I am trying to think of something special to do for the staff as well.  They've been great.  Yesterday, they were celebrating one of the nurses 60th birthday and it was so nice to hear them laughing and enjoying a pot luck lunch.  Not sure what I'll but I might use your idea of the mini-cupcakes.

    Lisa, Yeah, for beating the gong!  It's funny how we can be strong and all of a sudden something with trigger strong emotions.

    Lorrie, I am so sorry your daughter is not providing you with the support you need and you are a wonderful grandma and before BC you helped out.  Your daughter doesn't appreciate a great Mom and she needs to make other arrangements for child care.  Maybe should have my mom.  When I was pregnant (married, working, put myself through college) she told me to have an abortion.  When I asked to babysit once a year, to go fishing with my dad she said "I'm not that kind of grandmom".  She wasn't.  My kids never were close to her and despite me trying to make sure they knew their grandparents she didn't want anything to do with my family.  Luckily, my husband’s family is the opposite and so loving.  My Mom and herself focus brought me to tears many a times and now I have very little contact because I know it just won't go well.  Pat gave some good advice to blame to doctors and not get right back to her.

    As for me, with Taxol I cannot sleep despite trying; Ativan, Neulesta, Ambien (sp) and Tylenol PM.  I can sleep for an hour or 2 but wake up and can't get back to sleep.  With Taxol #1 it was like this for the full 2 weeks.  With #1 had some neuropathy (sore fingers and toes), weakness in legs for a few days, back ache and big toe nails are starting to discolor and lift up.  The nurse said to try Tea Tree oil so I hope that will work.

    I am also gaining weight since eating has not been an issue though I am nauseous.  During my treatment yesterday by BP dropped to 88/70   low for me.  Anyone else have that?  During AC my WBC would drop with each infusion and after my first Taxol it didn’t' change.  I hope it holds for the rest of Taxol treatments.

    Have a great weekend,

    Robin

  • JillLoftus1
    JillLoftus1 Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2013

    I was reading the boards this stormy afternoon and see you are done with chemo on the 3rd of sep. also.  I have been having the same problem with the swelling from the seroids.  I feel like I am 6 months pregnant.  Very uncomfortable especially the weekend before my chemo.  I have not gained any weight but it has totally shifted to my abdomen and my face and arms.  I have not had surgery yet they are doing neoadjuent therapy (however u spell it) then i will have one month off to rebuild my immune system then surgery then radiation.  Am very tired with the Taxol.  I can take the pain, thankfully I have percocet when needed but I had having no energy, seems like such a waste of time.  

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2013

    I hear you Jill. I unfortunately have gained at least 10 lbs. I am finding these first couple of days after Taxol, I am really needing to focus on pain management. I have joint, muscle and nerve pain from the Taxol. The nurse I talked to yesterday said they have found that younger women have more taxol pain?! I had not heard this before but if I am not up on my meds, the pain is excruciating!

    The nurse prescribed me a diuretic to try. She said it will make me pee like crazy! I will let you know if it helps.

    Can't wait for 9/3.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    AryaS just had my last taxol Thursday and pain is now settling in. I was given tramadol but find I need to take advil along with it yo help pain. Ovaries feel like they are in vise grips and then pain travels down legs. Hate this crap. Hang in there Sept 3 will be here soon.



    Lisa

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Just started my tamoxifen today.

    I decided to cut pills in half for the first week.

    We just left for a one week vacation in Lake Placid (trip was booked and paid for last year) so I don't need hormonal surprises while away.



    I like how the MO said "hot flashes, mood swings...." I just picuture me being the exorcist, head spinning and spewing pea soup. I better stay away from pea soup! Lol



    My poor family, if this tamoxifen causes mood swings they are either going to all leave or they will throw me out. I have been so bad this past year with one full day of mood swings as PM'S...uncontrollable, all out , extreme emotional mood swing! if I can figure it out I am fine, but my period is so irregular I sometimes have no idea why I am "crazed".



    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Today was hard...

    Pathetically...... Get up, have coffee & go get breakfast @ noon. Come home & crawl into bed till 4... Go to my nephews bday BBQ & leave early & not help my sister clean up to crawl back into bed.... Now I'm awake from sleeping too much? Or the pain?

    It hurts from between by shoulder blades in my back to my ribcage & hips... And my legs feel so unsteady it's difficult to walk... I'm angry and frustrated feeling like I need/deserve the good days I use to have between treatments. Thank goodness only one more on the 22nd.



    Pat... If mood swings go with the Tam, I'm in big trouble.... My moods are already swinging like a wrecking ball on a big crane.... I'm with you! My sweetie may kick me out! LOL.....

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Itis I never got out of bed yesterday so you did better than me. Its not pathetic its life on chemo and it sucks.



    Patty have a great vacation. Not sure when I will start the tamoxifen but cant imagine how much worse hot flashes can be. Friend told me about cool jammies which help at night. Am going to look on amazon today and see what they are all about. She just started tamoxifen a week ago.



    AryaS hope pain is under control today. I expect mine will be gone by this evening followed by weak legs tomorrow. Knowing the pattern helps me get thru it.



    Lisa

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    I'm so sorry you all are experiencing so much pain from the Taxol :(

    Patty - enjoy your vacation - I'm sure it'll be nice to get away...

    So I'm almost 2 weeks away from my last Chemo treatment and I am starting to feel better.  I"m still pretty weak and exhausted, and still overweight, but things are starting to taste normal to me again (water, coffee!).  

    I got a sort of "lateral" promotion at work but the sucky part is that I will have to wear my wig every day and dress up and none of my "fancy" clothes fit me anymore.  Plus, my wig is really uncomfortable.  I feel like it squeezes my head - is that normal?  Do your wigs do that??

    Is anyone here going to be getting Hercepten?  I have HER2+ and I'm a little worried about the SE from stand alone Hercepten.....my first transfusion is on August 20th.  Wish I could have this damn port taken out.  We went to the beach yesterday and I put sunblock on it and now I have this white circle with a button in the middle - it looks like the friggin Staples Easy Button on my chest!!!  STUPID!!!!  I did enjoy my Corona on the beach though :)

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