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  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    HVV my Dr told me to use Senecot for C and Immodium for D.  I never used the Senecot but did use the Immodium several times.  Hopefully you will feel better tomorrow.

    Lorrie I hope your pain dimishes soon.

    I think I am supposed to do 5 years on Tamoxifen, I will find out soon.  I read that one of the side effects is that it can cause your hair to thin.  I'm wondering if that will affect our hair growing back.

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Thank you Robin. :) I'm not looking forward to it. Glad you are satisfied with the results. Also glad you had such a good afternoon.

    HVV-Milk of magnisia helped me. Good luck.



    Carla

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Hey ladies. I've been really struggling with constipation since taxol and part of the problem is that I still can't bear to drink any liquids. They all make me feel so sick :(. Last night my stomach hurt so bad, I went to bed at 8:30pm. I just wanna enjoy a tall glass of water again.

    So today is 12 years since my mum died :(. Even though I was 30, it feels like I've lived my whole adult life without her. :(. My oldest daughter was 1 when she died and I was pg with my middle son. She died one month before 9/11 and two months before my son was born. She died of lung cancer. We have no family history of breast cancer!!!

    Lorie, hope you feel better today. Today is the first day in 6 weeks that I'm not headed off to the chemo lounge!!

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    Feeling back to myself the last two days, which is good because I am working again.  I have taken the week after chemo off with each treatment and been happy I have been able to do that.  Money in the bank would have been nice, but I just couldn't drag myself to work and feel like crap. 

    I went to the Oncologist today.  My counts were good and he said I could have my tissue expander placed anytime!  YAY!  So surgery is scheduled for August 15th.  My daughter and I are having a wedding shower at my townhome on the 17th for my niece.  So we have got to get everything organized before.  I shouldn't really have to do much on the day of the shower just have the place picked up.  Fortunately the cleaners come next week so the place will be cleaned.  If my daughter needs help with something I'm not able to do then I know my Mom and/or sister will step up and help. 

    I also have an appointment with a different radiologist for a 2nd opinion next Tuesday.  My Oncologist thinks I should do radiation but was thinking I could get away with 3 treatments.  So I will see what this new Dr has to say and make my decision from there. 

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited August 2013

    Well girls, just got back from my MO visit. I start Tamoxifen tonight! I am four weeks post  last infusion of TC, thought it would be longer before I started hormone therapy. Well I guess here goes...cant be like chemo right? TE exchange slated for August 29!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Gully you will have to let us know how it goes. I am not looking forward to tamoxifen..seems to have its own miserable se's from what I have read on other threads. Did mo tell you ten years?



    Lisa

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Thank you all!

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited August 2013

    IPC, my MO said up to 10 years depending on my menopausal status. I am 46 and premeno. does menopause come before 56? Anyway, our conversation included how I feel 4 weeks out PFC, which is ok except for some reflux and a little fatigue. I had blood drawn, normal CBC and liver panel and a vitamin D level. He asked how I was feeling, and I said that I just wanted to be left alone for a while! He laughed and then gave me a script for metoclopramide for the reflux and then just said start the Tamoxifen tonight and then come back in six weeks to talk about my reactions to it. Guess he got my message!

    FYI he also mentioned that keeping your BMI low,exercising, eating a plant based diet, taking Vit D supplements, aspirin 2X per week and limiting alcohol have all shown to reduce recurrance rates. 

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    I haven't had alcohol since my surgery in April.  I am looking forward to a strawberry margarita from Chilis once I get my taste buds back.  The pills for thrush make my taste buds take longer to come back, I still have 4 pills to go.  Maybe I can have one next week before surgery.

    Gully keep us posted on how Tamoxifen treats you.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Gully has fatigue eased at all since chemo ended? I am tired of being tired.



    Lisa

  • argynis
    argynis Member Posts: 123
    edited August 2013

    A short update on my Taxol infusion #3: I had a bad itching belly, chest and legs from day 3 to 5. I took some allergy medicine but that did not help. It has subsided by now - I had some itching after #2 but it was a lot worse this time. No bone/muscle/joint pain this time (same as after Taxol #2) - I had that after Taxol #1 though.

    I felt very tired on day 3&4 and do still have frequent hot flashes that sometimes wake me up during the night.

    I have developed some numbness on the upper side of my toes (right foot) and the tip of my right pointer finger feels a little numb too. I had my treatment on Monday and went camping on the weekend so Taxol is definitely easier for me than AC.

    Next and LAST (yay!!) treatment on Monday...

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited August 2013

    Lisa, 

    The fatigue has eased somewhat since my last chemo. I am only on week 4 so I do have some fatigue. My MO asked if it got worse with each round. Duh......I am gradually starting to get more energy but I do get tired easily. I went for a bike ride with my family last Sunday and it took me out for two days! Before chemo it would not have even made me breath hard. I did not work during chemo so I can rest if I need to. But I start back to work at the end of August full time so I am sure I will notice more fatigue, I teach HS Science and will be on my feet all day. I am tired of being tired as well. I am sure my  next surgery on the 29th will not help. One day at a time!

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Limit alcohol??

    Merlot has been the only thing getting me through chemo! LOL just kidding! Wink wink!



    Gully... Looks like we are gonna be waiting for your posts about the tamoxifen... Until we catch up...



    Picc dressing change today. It always hurts after this nurse does it. It's out 4.5cm now... Another 1.5 is all I got left.... 2 more dressing changes till last chemo. I think it will be okay. I know I'll have blood draws after last chemo, but I'll be okay wit a poke for that. I just want to finish the chemo with the picc. I am really glad I ended up getting it. Especially after my freak out after looking it up on YouTube...

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    I just read my post....

    2 more dressing changes till LAST CHEMO! I like the way it sounds..... Last chemo....

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie, I like the way that sounds for you!



    Gully, did the mo say to cut the pills in half to start? I had read someone did that....I sort of liked the idea...I'm thinking of doing that, even if MO doesn't recommend it. What the heck....figure it shouldn't hurt me?

    My mo has not ordered blood work, when I see her Thursday I will be asking why...I'd like to know my vitamin D levels and red blood cell levels. Etc. if she won't order it I will go to my general practitioner and bring my last labs from before final chemo, heck I will bring her all the labs so she can see what has been happening to me!



    Just came from the nutritionist today. She seemed very nice.

    She gave me a pamphlet from the American Institute for Cancer Research. Apparently I need to be cutting back on red meat and processed meat. And I had no idea that pork is considered a red meat! (So I just rechecked this pamphlet and it is saying to decrease the risk of colorectal cancer ...but I don't think this is geared to only colorectal cancer, but to cancer in general)



    Sigh, plant based is supposed to be better, guess I better find a way to eat those suckers!



    Pat

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited August 2013

    I know this may sound odd, but a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses worked for my constipation/hemroidal issues. I warm a little water, dissolve the molasses, then mix it all with ice and whatever milk or milk substitute I want every day. Also helps with some vitamin def. issues I was having. Good luck!

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    JWoo love the tattoo on your head.  There is someone here that does henna tattoos once a month free for cancer patients.  He (artist) did his wifes head when she went through chemo and now they do small tattoos while you are being treated.  They want me to go to their place and do a henna tattoo on my head.  I wasn't sure about one on my whole head, maybe because o I didn't care for the picture they show of hers.  Just not my kind of art.  It kind of looks like a maze all around her head.  It would also be free and said it could take 2-3 hours.  Now you have me re-thinking, if I could have some input on what was on my head it could be kind of cool.  Besides it is henna and won't last forever. By the way his wife just finished chemo and her hair is nice and thick, short but it looks awesome!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Good morning ladies



    Gearing up for last chemo tomorrow. My gong for infusion center arrived yesterday so I and all who follow will have something to ring when we are done.



    Spoke with dh yesterday about expectations about bouncing back. He was thinking 30 days and I would feel all better! Hmmm that is about when rads will start. Let him know I think will be much longer than 30 days. He apparently is better at denial than me. Forgot about the whole rads thing.



    Hope all have a good day



    Lisa

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    I'm tired of being tired too!  I wake up at 6am for work each day and when I get home from work, all I want to do is lay around and I think my family expects me to be up and busy...My son has started football conditioning so he's at practices every night of the week and it's all just exhausting for me right now....

    My bowels seem to be sluggeshly moving (i'm sure you're all happy to hear about that!!!!)

    I forgot to tell you guys that I got a phone call from Rex Mamography on Monday to schedule my follow up mammo.  The back story is that I went to Rex Mammography in January for my diagnostic and they said "nothing to worry about - but we'll see you back in 6 months"   It was my primary doc (who's a Nurse Practitioner) who received the mammo images and suggested that I go get a second opinion - which I did in March. So I wasted all of February :(:(  But can you imagine, if she hadn't been so proactive.  I would've just been finding out I had breast cancer now.  I haven't called back Rex yet, I keep trying to think of what I want to say to them on the phone...

    My friend Toby who had been battling Ovarian cancer for 15 months and enjoyed 6 months of remission just found out that she has to go back to chemo again :(  So sucks for her.....

    It's HUMP DAY!  Thank goodness.  Can't wait for the weekend....

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited August 2013

    Patty, My MO did not suggest cutting the pills in half. He said they take up to a month to get into your system. I called yesterday to make sure its ok to take them before surgery in three weeks because of the clotting issues. I have only taken one so far....nothing noticeable yet.

    The diet is not going to be a huge change for me, eat alot of salad anyway, but I wont lie I really enjoy a steak or a good hamburger! I eat them when I crave them and wont stop...I figure when I crave something my body needs it..so I eat it! We substitiue ground turkey for dishes that call for ground meat. Its not that noticable. The diet also recommends fish 2X per week. Since I live in Maine its pretty easy to get seafood and I love it...but my twins dont, so when we have Salmon I have to make two meals....its a pain! Personally, I think its more important to keep the BMI down than to freak out over daily meals. Moderation, moderation. I am freaking out how to keep up my excercise plan 5 days a week after I go back to work!. Right now just trying to eat 5 small meals a day and not eat after 8 PM. I lost 8 pounds from the BMX and chemo, I hope to keep it off. BMI around 24 not sure what my MO considers low BMI! I am only 5'2'' and am at 123lbs, I am hoping the Tamoxifen does not screw with my weight! Will keep you posted.

    Lisa, congrats on your last chemo tomorrow! My clinic had no bell, and my MO was on vacation, all I got was a heart shaped chocolate from the NP! Would have liked a bell!!!

    JWOO Molassas did not sound weird at all for me for bowel problems...I used KARO syrup in my babies's bottles to prevent constipation...worked like a charm. Also white grape juice works too!

    Have a great day everyone!

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Gully-thank you for keeping us posted with your tamoxifen journey.

    Kate-I could only imagine how unconfident you must be with Rex Mammography. Is there another place you can go too? How on earth did they miss it when your nurse practitioner saw it? Comforting to know that that nurse practitioner is a confident backup. Sorry to hear about your friend. I couldn't imagine. Blessingscto her.

    Lisa-Congrats that today is your last day. May your S.E,'s be minimal.

    Pat-one way that I've been supplementing my vegies is with spirulina. There is the powder and tablet form. One serving a day supposedly equals 5 servings of fruits and vegetables a day. There are many other benefits also. I get Pacifica spirlina on amazon. It is a microscopic

    blue green vegetable microalgae. I'm not consistant with eating vegies and fruit. When I first found out I had cancer I changed my ways around because of what I read. But, alas, I have not kept up with my vegie/fruit

    intake. Read about spirlina was so good for energy boosting on another

    forum. Started reading about it and was impressed. Not sure how it helps with energy level because I don't know what to compare it to.

    Lorrie-2 more woo woo. Me too:). Waiting in waiting room to go in right now. Ended up I got here an hour early but it gave me a chance to cat

    up with you lovely ladies. Merlot is my choice of wine also. Haven't had much since I found out about the big C. My hubby came up with a great paring with merlot. Original flavor laughing cow. Have a sip, then take a bite. As the laughing cow is melting in your mouth, have another sip. Really, really good. Glad I got the oic too. So far it is working perfectly. Hope I don't jinx it.

    Argynnis- yay. Only one more!

    Teresa-Glad you are feeling better. :)

    Kate-So sorry about your momma.



    Blessings to all - Carla







  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Received this in the mail today.

    I am on a "feel better" or "prayer list" or some such thing. I get random mail from people I don't know sending their prayers, thoughts, etc.



    "You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have."



    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013
    Someone posted that to my FB page, Pat.... Made me cry cuz it's true!

    Ran into my SIL yesterday...(re-cap, she was stage 0 grade 0 and is doing rads only) I was getting out from my picc apt & she was coming out of rads. We talked for a few minutes and she was all kinds of upset that another rads patient was complaining about her 10 treatments, when my SIL had to do 20.

    She says.. "it just really makes me mad when they have no idea how lucky they are".... "I am so done with this! Lorrie, you have no idea how tired and yucky I feel!"... You really look great, Lorrie. Chemo must be going well."
    I stared at her quietly, as I am sitting by then, because my legs won't carry my weight anymore since I'm still in the rough patch of my treatment from last week.

    I just looked at her and said, " congrats on Friday being your last treatment... Now you can get back to normal life again.... I'm so sorry it was rough on you, but glad it's all over now."

    Here's what I really wanted to say... " really?! $&¥€# £<><<+£<€><}#. £<£%?...."

    I'm giving myself a pat on the back for my restraint.... CLUELESS.... & you just can't cure stupid, so I didn't waste any of my precious energy trying to.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    My post showed up weird...it added all my clinical info in the body of the text... Is that how it went out? Or just my iPad being goofy?



    Anyway

    Lisa, did you actually order a gong for your clinic? Or did the hospital do it?

    That's awesome!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie,

    I thought you put your post like that! Lol...cursing her out and telling her your diagnosis!



    On the one hand I am happy for your SIL not having to do anything but rads....however on the other hand I hear you!



    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    I agree totally ... I am so thankful hers wasn't worse!



    Lol... Maybe my curse symbols did something.... That's too funny.



    She's just been a thorn since this started.. "were going thru this together" stuff.. & if she asks how I'm feeling and tell her the truth, she usually says something like " I'm glad it's going well.." & I think, did you just tune out what I said?..... So now, I just say I'm fine... Believe me, I really am glad it's not worse for her. My poor hubby has had to deal with a wife and sister with BC at the same time & I'm sad for how it's affecting him too... Well, until he tells me I look butch!



    Anyhooooo.. On a nice note... My sister wants to come to my last treatment with me. I told her it's boring and she can go after a little while... She's wanted to help all this time & I haven't asked or needed it... So if she wants to come, she can come. I'm planning on going to thus specialty cupcake place here in town & ordering cupcakes and make a thank you card for the nurses

    who've done my infusions as a goodbye..... Is that cheesy?

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited August 2013

    Sounds like there is a lot going on with everyone!  Had my #3 Taxol today.  7/8 chemo's done.  I can't wait for chemo to be done.  I guess I thought they'd all be easier somehow...although, I can't complain much about Taxol #2 (still pain and numbness, but not nearly as bad as my experience with Taxol #1).  Had my first herceptin treatment today too.  I have stopped wearing my wig and just goe along with the scarf/hat look.  It's just more comfortable and easier.

    ukkate - sorry about the constipation.  I have had a really rough time with that too.  I tried taking ducolase 2 times per day and that helped a little, but seem to upset my stomach.  So, even though I was told not to eat salad and raw vegetable (unless they are peeled), I went ahead and took the chance.  I wash them all really well on only prepare them at home (I don 't eat salads, etc for a restaurant).  I also found some prunes (which I have always hated) that are infused with and orange flavor - they also have lemon.  Those actually taste okay and I have been eating one serving a day regularly.  In addition, I purchased some cottonelle wipes and use them soley on my behind - I haven't used regular toilet paper in weeks.  Plus, I follow up with a TUCKS pad after each bowel movement.  This all had really helped me manage my constipation and help with the painful side effects too.  I have also used sitz baths when needed but since my following my new routine, haven't had to use those much.

    I know 8 chemos aren't much compared to other cancer victims I have run into during my sessions, but 8 is enough and they can't end soon enough.

    Hope everyone's treatments this week have gone or are going better than your last ones :)

    Hang in there everyone!  I can't wait for hair - anyone have any idea on how long it take to grow back in?  My little brother (15 years my junior) is getting married in November.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Has nayone had a burnign sensation intheir throat or stomach as a se?  I think its acid reflux but I've never had that so just guessing.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Today is the final chemo! I ordered the gong myself. Was upset I couldn't ring anything so it is my gift to the center and patients. On first day everyone writes a message on a rock for rock garden. Ds and I thought gong fit in with the "fung shui " of the rock garden. Btw I wrote

    F u breast cancer lol. I have been singing "bang a gong" by t rex (I think) for days now. Now miserable weekend and then should feel ok for a while before rads.



    Whether I post or just read this thread has been very important to me and my sanity. I will continue to read and post here as it is my bc home. Still have to deal emotional aftermath and this will be where I turn. A big thanks to all you wonderful ladies for your support.



    Lisa

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Lisa yay for final chemo!!!

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