Starting Chemo July 2013
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Hi all,
I'm 5 days post 1st infusion of AC. Have had nausea and pain and C and D. Now, I have jsut C. Two days. I've tried Mirolax without effect and I have consumed 3 liters of beverages whichf or me in one day is a lot. Ideas?
Thank you.
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HVV,
Did you also use a stool softener , morning and night?
Maybe prune juice, or someone had said a jar of baby food prunes.
Pat -
HVV
Miralax is only a stool softener. Maybe combine with senna ( stimulant) as you need to get gut movement ( peristalsis) re-established - be careful of promoting diarrhoea again though
also consider Glycerin suppositories ?? -
Thank you!
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Yeah Lynn- hooray for your good day feeling NORMAL! And a new job that feels good! Celiac is a bugger -more bone pain but can manage with Advil and have felt worse.
There are lots of options and being high risk for recurrence due to 4 of the 5 nodes having spilled cancer into surrounding tissue, I am grateful for chemo and radiation and hormone suppressing treatment. I am turning 59 on 30th and have lots of life to enjoy ahead of me so I am keeping it positive and so far so good: meditation and prayer and lots if amazing support from friends, family, and colleagues who have driven an hour one way to bring meals for chemo night and helping out on our farm. It just blows my mind how much love is out there for us. Surely as powerful a healing treatment as any other we take. Hoping each of you have wonderful days Tuesday August 6. -
Puppymama, hair losing is never easy, but we are all here for you. I had mine buzzed 2 days after it started falling and I was so relieved. I didn't shave my head cuz I had some scalp acne developed and I afraid I would cut them open.
Re constipation: some yoga posts help; however some experience in yoga is needed or else you might hurt yourself and that's the last thing we wanted! Google "yoga for constipation", here is an example. http://yogaindailylife.blogspot.hk/2007/01/yoga-for-constipation.html
Day 2 of second infusion: fatigue, no fever, no signs of suspected hand and foot syndrome returning yet, am happy so far. -
H All,off to infusion#3 today, I was eating like a maniac yesterday to prepare,after today only 1 more ac then i switch to taxo. Its going faster than i thought,which is a good thing. Sweetheart how r u feeling? Not only is it scary when someone in ur family is sick but more work for u.Hvv,If i dont go for more than 2 days i take a womens overnight gentle laxative,Sues right u need to get things moving.Hang in there ladies,hugs to everyone. Angela
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Good luck today Angela!!! You're one infusion ahead of me - awesome that you'll be 75% done with A/C
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Good Luck Angel !!!!
I am off for round 3 tomorrow, and plan on taking my husband out for dinner tonight. Just think, after tomorrow only 14 more days (until the next infusion), and we will be finished with the nasty "devil". Time ususally rolls on so fast but when your having chemo seems like the days draggggg on.....
I did see Halloween Candy in the grocery store today. Roll on fall...........
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Hi ladies,
Never made it to chemo #2. TEs were overfilled so PS took out 90 CCs. Developed a raging drain site and TE infection and in a ton of pain.
Hair was falling out in clumps so I had it buzzed to a #1. Sad. I look so ugly.
Wig netting itches my forehead.
Really sick of the setbacks. Feel like I'm not moving forward and making progress. Sorry for the downer post.
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angelanature - Good luck today!
hannariggs - I hope you have a really nice dinner tonight, before your infusion tomorrow. Good luck with your AC #3!
Lynn - so glad to hear you've had a better time this cycle.
jnprsns - I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time. I can understand your frustration with not moving forward. Hang in there! {{{HUGS}}}
HVV - I hope you get some relief soon. That's so not fun. Next cycle, I'm going to try senna too. I was going with the stool softeners, lots of water and fiber, but it wasn't quite enough to manage the bloat and discomfort. Yoga sounds like an interesting addition too.
Lana and Sweetheart- how are you feeling today? I hope you beat that cold, Sweetheart!
Daisy - how are things going this time with your IV fluids? You're probably in the worst of SEs right now. I hope you're feeling okay and the lower dose is working out better.
NC - glad your day 5 is doing better too! We have the same chemo and it was still knocking me down at day 5 with cycle 1.
Karkar - I'm really glad to hear that your second infusion is going better with no hand and foot syndrome returning yet. Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen!
ckmoss - I didn't have kidney cramps/pains, but I had back spasms, which my onc said she's never heard of as a symptom. I agree with you on not suffering the effects of radiation if that is overkill. So many doctors are recognizing that there has been a lot of overtreatment for BC in the past and they're weighing the benefits/risks much more these days. If I were you, I'd seek a second opinion, if possible, just to ease my mind, but it sounds like you're making the right decision. The advice given to me for a grade 3 tumor similar in size to yours was I would need chemo, but if I opted for mastectomy, I wouldn't need radiation.
option - have you talked to you onc about sleep problems? Mine gave me Ambien CR and Ativan (I don't use them together). The Ambien helps me sleep when I'm wired from the steroids. The Ativan has helped the last few days when I've been very stressed about losing my hair. I don't like the idea of being medicated to sleep, but I feel so pumped up with meds now anyway, I think it's worth adding one more for a good night's sleep.
puppymama - how did it go with shaving your head? Do you feel better?
I was really freaking out yesterday about my hair and decided last minute to ditch work and drive 3 hours round trip to get my "cranial prosthesis". I'm not ready to buzz my head yet. I'm day 13 and there has been more shedding, but not enough yet to push me to do it. I'll see how much hair comes out today. I feel a little less crazy now that I have a wig I'm okay about wearing to work when the inevitable happens. It has a SmartLace front (Jon Renau) that needs trimming - I'm kind of scared about cutting it and ruining the wig. Can't wait for the fun part of trying to get my insurance to reimburse me now.
Today, I had a nasty nosebleed (3 on Sunday as well) - I'm not sure if it's from the Nasonex my onc prescribed, the chemo or both. They are certainly bleeding much more than a typical nosebleed for me, which I think is a symptom of my platelet count being off. I need to talk to my MO later about yesterday's blood draw for my WBC count. Crossing my fingers it went up. Anyone else getting bloody noses?
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I too was diagnosed May 16th ( husbands 56th birthday no less)...invasive ductal stage 2. Lymph nodes negative but that damn once number of 25 put me in that gray area. Had bilateral mastectomy with expanders June 8 th with expanders and TC chemotherapy starting the 15th of July. Decided to try the penguin cold cap therapy to try and save the hair. Painstakingly brutal between the dry ice and the 8 hours on chemotherapy day, but hanging on....had second TC yesterday and awoke with red face due to steroids. Am taking claritin for nulasta side effects and that with Motrin worked well the first time around. We'll see for shot today....3rd week post chemotherapy definitely a new normal, but normal compared to the prior 2!! Drinking cucumber lemon water to detox by the gallon. Has completely turned me off cucumber martinis! Anyone have any other ideas? Sorry, I'm rambling!!
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Thank you!
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Venti55, I was diagnosed around the same time as you, right before Mother's Day ... nice, which left me wondering how to tell my kids! But that was just the first diagnosis for DCIS, then came the invasive one in the same breast and, on the same day, confirmation of endrometrial cancer. I had surgery on June 4th for all three, thought I was done, then was told my HER2 triple positive meant I should probably also have chemo. So, here I am.
Just an interesting factoid....I saw on the news (PBS, and they don't usually report trivia) recently that there are preliminary studies showing that people who have been through chemo seem less likely to get alzheimers. Anyone else see that? Of course, chemo-brain as well as other SE's are probably not the ideal alternative
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Well, if chemo is going to reduce our risk of alzheimers, I guess it's nice that there is at least one silver lining to this storm cloud.
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Hair today, gone tomorrow. As predicted my hair started shedding on day 13, falling out on day 14, and coming out by the handful on day 15 (yesterday). My hair stylist buzzed me with a #2 last night. I had a good friend with me who took pictures, encouraged me, and then took me out for a glass of wine after. I have been coloring my hair for a long time so didn't know what to expect but I am looking very "salt and pepper." Even this short it is still falling out like crazy. Wore a scarf when I went in to work on my classroom today and felt so self-conscious. So glad to be past this drama and just learn to accept the new look.
Sheila, you are so right about all the support. On Monday, 6 friends showed up in my classroom to set it up for the new school year. They did everything from putting numbers on coat hooks to arranging desks and moving bookcases. It was so overwhelming and they did it with such joy that I couldn't find the words to express my thanks. I hope all of you have some people like this in your lives.
Jnprsn, I'm so sorry that things seem to be going backward for you. Just know we are all sending you love and support. Sometimes this journey seems to be one step forward and two steps back, but you are strong and you can make it through. And there is no way in the world I believe that you look ugly! Hang in there. -
Mellie, your so good a remembering everyone, I have to keep going back and looking constantly. Anyway, I have had a few nose bleeds too I think it is because I am so dry, all around and in my nose.
Well my headshaving went fine. It was my 24th wedding anniversary so we went out to dinner with our best friends
and then they came over and my friends's husband used to be a barber in the Navy so I had him shave my head.
First we dyed it blue then cut it into a mohawk. Took some pictures, then shaved it all. We had a pretty good time actually and if I had said go ahead they
would have all shaved their heads too, including my 18 year old son. But I told them I did not want them to, told them I didnt want to be looking at that, lol.
Jnprsn, I know what you mean I feel uglytoo everytime I see myself in the mirror with nothing on my head it is very startling. I catch a glimpse of myself and im like HOLY CRAP!
I wwnt out today with a scarf on, it wasnt too bad. I didn't notice anyone stairing at me.
On a better note, I have been feeling much better. Almost normal except for a few things, like taste, really dry skin.
JeriGrace, it is great that you have such good friends. I too have a great group of friends that have been such great support, it really means alot.
Venti55, may 16 was my dx date too, bummer of a birthday gift for your husband. -
Guess I should check in with you all and apologize for not mentioning everyone, but ((((hugs)))) to everyone. It's such a challenge to be positive when your feeling down in the dumps with chemo.
What round is everyone on? I get so lost trying to keep up. I know I go for round 3 Friday, and hannarigs is tomorrow for round 3 too.
I have been doing well on my second week as I am dose dense and go every 2 week's. I always dread the next round. My hair started to fall out on day 12 and day 16 it was just whisps. So we shaved it. I still haven't got that solar panel look yet. Just almost white hair fuzz which my youngest loves to rub.
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Honeybunny, I will have my TCH round 2 this wed. I am praying for less SE than this the 1st round.
Hope everyone is doing good. (((Hugs to all))) -
rrrrgh....almost 2am, still can't sleep, my chemo is tomorrow morning at 9:00am. Must be that steroid med again. Happened to me with my 1st chemo also.
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Soriya - thinking of you today and praying for an easy go of it!
Puppy mama - LOVE the pre-shave mohawk ;-). My hubby made the request of my hairdresser but I wasn't brave enough! My hair is getting super sparse - and is actually a bit painful in the LOWER area as it falls out in clumps.
JerGrace - props to your teacher colleagues for stepping in!!! You needed that
I'm in for labs this morning and hoping I'm not quite as low as last round!
Here they are! Gotta go ;-) -
Good luck today, soriya and hannariggs! Wishing you an easy time with SEs. I'm taking Ambien when I'm on the steroids to get some sleep - I'm not going to even try without it.
Lynn - I hope your labs are good this time out. I got word yesterday that my WBC count was back up to normal and I almost did a tap dance, it was such a relief! :-)
I'm sometimes envious of you ladies doing dose dense to get through it quicker, but I'm at the same time grateful to have an extra week to recover before starting the next cycle.
I was hoping to get through the work week with my own hair and to just come in on Monday with my new hair. Reading your timelines on shedding/falling out, JeriGrace and Melissa, I think it's not going to make it! :-( I started shedding two days ago (day 12). It's still at a shedding stage this morning. Friday will be day 16, so I'll probably have to do something about it tonight or tomorrow night, but I'm holding onto a shred of hope that my hair will be as stubborn as I am!
puppymama - I love that you got a blue mohawk! My BF is planning to mohawk me too and he has an orange hair color (non-permanent) from a past Halloween he wants to spray it. I hadn't thought about dryness causing the nosebleeds. Had another gusher this morning. I think I'll try to moisturize with a saline spray.
{{{HUGS}}} to all - wishing everyone an easy Wednesday.
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Hi everyone,
I seem to be behind most of you as far as chemo. This is day 12 and I'm definitely shedding hair more than usual. You're right that when it actually happens it's more distressing than just knowing it will. I've got two cute wigs I've been looking forward to wearing, but I can't stop weeping
. Got to get it together and go pick up my daughter from school orientation.
Kudos and strength to you all!
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Thank you Jerigrace and puppymama. Everyone on here is so kind.
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To update, the pain from my infected drain site and TE sent me back to the PS yesterday. Because he took 90 CCs out of both TEs, fluid decided to pool into my right breast around the TE. He aspirated all around the TE and in the old drain site. Ouch. Now pain is a little better but I'm still red on lower half of breast. Scheduled a follow up for tomorrow. Don't want to go into the weekend feeling bad or having the fluid return. Chemo #2 Monday. Hoping infection is gone by then.
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Hello, ladies! What a blur this summer has been doing this chemo thing. I see ads for back-to-school and it seems unreal it is August. Apparently time flies even when you're not having fun!
Sorry for all those just losing your hair. Yes its traumatic but you kind of get used to it. I'm not saying you ever like it though. I guess we'll save a lot of money on haircuts and hair color for the next several months. And I don't have to read that section of the women's magazines anymore. sigh.
jnprsn, so sorry about your infection. I hope you can get everything settled down soon. I've been through the infection after surgery but at least wasn't doing chemo at the time.
Nausea has not been my problem but unusual cravings has. I seem to be having strange cravings for things I don't normally eat. I have gone through a lot of lemonade and pretzels. Before this, I bet I haven't had lemonade in 5 years and pretzels are last as my snack of choice. Weird.
As many bad days as this chemo is giving me, it does kind of help me appreciate the more peaceful days when I feel better. I'm learning to be kind to myself and have lower expectations of myself and yes, others. I hope that can last beyond chemo as I think its something that would benefit me in my every day life. Time will tell!
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Hi All,
Just got back from my 3rd Infusion. YEAH! Only 14 more days and I will get #4. The last one! Sounds good but still means two YUK cycles. But at least moving forward. Infusion went well, just more tired than the other rounds. Hoping the SE are kind this time.
I have a cute story for everyone. Yesterday after taking my shower for work(and being alone in the house) i trudged through the livingroom on my way to the bedroom. My faithful 9 year old german shepherd dog was lying on the floor and he looked up. They say dogs dont have facial expressions, but if I could have captured that moment it would have been priceless. I have always had long hair, and since losing my hair I always keep it covered with a scarf, so for him to see me with no hair freaked him out! He knew it was me, and came over ever so slowly and tenatively. But if looks could tell a story I am sure he would have said "what the heck happened to your head, and they make a flea spray for that". I was laughing so hard I had tears of joy and sorrow at the same time. I can't blame him, I look in the mirror and dont recognise myself either. But ever loyal, he still doesnt leave my side.
Blessings to all......with minimal side effects.........keep the faith.....
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Jnprsn - hope all settles down for you and #2 happens soon enough
Rambo - ditto pain/rash?? I am trying Daktosin ( a combo of nappy rash zinc oxide and an anti fungal) failing that I will try a hydrocortisone with anti fungal . Am thinking since I noticed same sensation round #1 and now you have mentioned it perhaps it is skin sensitivity to the cyclophosphamide Hopefully will clear up soon. But mine is VERY itchy.
2 blue stars agree re time flying when not having fun - in my case winter is going fast and maybe we can be more tolerant after all this
Vilia - stay strong -
Hi everyone,Hannariggs u totally cracked me up with ur doggies reaction,my hubby hasnt really seen me without a scarf or wig,maybe a glance in the bathroom when putting on my bedtime scarf,i think he'd have the same reaction.Jnprsn sorry about all ur complications,it's so not fair,hang in there girl. Have the worst headache today,might be the zophran or just SE from chemo yesterday,got my nuelastsa shot hope my counts arent continueing on a downward trend.Villa i cried so much over losing my hair but a good story i went to pick up my meds today and the pharmacy tech who ive known forever said,well at least u havent lost ur hair yet,the wig totally fooled even her.Twohobboies,i have to agree with u,i was really angry my life was interrupted and turned upside down with this cancer but now im accepting it,i really enjoy those "feeling good days"i know this will change my life forever,and i wont take my health as a given ever again. Love to all,Angela
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Twohobbies and Nocompromises, I never thought I'd wish for chemo to come!
Hannariggs, my dog did a double take a couple of times but then got over it quickly. Wish humans were as easy!
Vilia, my hair started falling out day 14 and by day 16 I had it buzzed to a #1. I didn't cry until I left and got in the car. Apparently, we will get used to this like everything else. Hang in there.
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