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  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Teresa - glad you got some sleep - it's so important.  I take Ativan almost every night now and last night I took an Ativan with a tramadol and was fast asleep by 9:30pm.  I really just wanted to sleep to get away from feeling so nauseaus :(  My Side Effects are hitting me in full force this last time too - I wonder why?  Makes you wonder if they snuck us extra chemo as it was our last time....

    I'm having such a hard time pulling myself out of my funk this weekend.  I just keep thinking about all the things I"m missing :(  I am usually practicing with my choir this time of the year (for the Jewish High Holidays) and I'm not this year as I"m too exhausted to get to rehearsals on Monday nights - and I feel like they're all just moving alone without me - they were all at a Bar Mitzvah yesterday which I wasn't invited too and of course, all the pics are up on FB....sigh.....

    We walked about 1 mile yesterday to drop Aaron off at his friend's house for a playdate and I swear my legs hurt for the rest of the evening!  I am SOO out of shape - I really need to introduce exercise but I"m so overwhelmed at the thought of starting....

    Lorie - wishing your daughter an easy labor today!!!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Good morning ladies



    Wish I could report I won powerball and could treat all of us to a nice vacation but alas it is not to be. A woman can dream though.



    Theresa I too am worried about radiation especially as it will be on left side which is heart side. With my stage everything I read says I must go thru it even with mastectomy so I will soldier on. At least I can have 4 week break til it starts.



    How many of us have finished chemo? My last is Thursday. It seems as if last is hardest and emotional aftermath along with physical se's make it worse. I keep telling my family I wont miraculously feel better just because its over. Hope they are listening.



    Hope all have a great Sunday



    Lisa









  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Lisa... Dont forget to tell the fam about the "scientifically proven" 22 week recovery time. :)

    My last treatment is on the 22nd ONE MORE..... Then DONE until rads....



    As I'm up getting readybto head ton the hospital for the birth of my grand baby, I am bitter that I have to be in the middle of the worse of my SEs today... :(

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Itis...birth of baby will hopefully cure all se's. Congratulations!



    22 weeks of recovery sounds terrific to me.



    Lisa

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lisa,

    Someone had posted 1 week recovery for 1 week of treatment....that includes those weeks in between chemo session....so mine was 12 weeks (4treatments)...if doing rads you need to add those weeks. I didn't even consider surgery recovery time.

    This isn't to make us down by focusing on how long it will take to recover from this "nonsense"...it is to give us a REALITY that , as you said, just because we finish the last chemo doesn't mean we will feel better.

    I am already getting "upset" that I don't have my old energy levels back and of course I keep forgetting the "recovery time figure". Hubby has also asked if I am "all better". I guess I need to sit and explain the recovery to them as well. Of course when I see my oncologist on Thursday she better be spitting out the same quotes as I am or he will think I am scamming!



    I don't know what type of "impact" Tamoxifen will have on recovery either...I guess that is another question for oncologist.



    Lorrie...I am excited for you! I hope all goes smoothly. Maybe you can score a lounge chair at the hospital and take a nap while waiting! Bring your hand sanitizer and of course a camera!



    Pat

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2013

    I'll be done on August 22 also....last of 6 TCH Yoohoo! We"re making it through gals....I tell everyone I may be crawling over that finish line but I'll get over it!

    Have a wonderful Sunday eveyone - and Lorrie, welcome that new baby spirit into the world today. Congratulations

    Annie

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Aw Lorrie. So exciting about the new arrival. :) It is the pits that it is during the worst of the S.E.'s :( . One good thing is that you will be finishing chemo the 22nd. It is better than starting the 22nd. You will be physically and mentally more available for your grandbaby sooner. ....Does that make sense? Makes sense in my head, not sure if I got down alright.

    Patty-I believe in knowing the reality of what is ahead of us also. It really helps.

    Kate-so sorry about you missing out on all the things you normally do. It sucks for sure. I believe next year you will get double or triple joy

    when you get back to normality.

    Theresa- Hope you had a lot of good sleep ladt night. Lack of sleep seems to underline any rotten thing going on in life.

    Lisa-so happy for you that Thursday will be the last treatment for you. It may be the most emotional, etc, I 'm not there yet, but it will be your last and THAT is wonderful. Good luck with it. Minimal S.E.'S TO YOU.

    Annie-A wonderful Sunday to you too. :)



    Blessed day to all - Carla

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Well chemo pause is over!

    Go figure!

    See the oncologist Thursday...bound to be getting Tamoxifen sooner or later. Then the real menopause will begin.

    Pat

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    Too bad we didn't all live closer so we could start an exercise regimen together.  Even just someone to go walking with would be great.  There are a couple of places here that are $10 a month to go work out, I might have to check into one of those.  I've never been a real active person, but I don't think the weight will just start to come off.  I have vowed to not drink as much pop.  I figure since I haven't drank much while on chemo due to it tasting lousy I might as well just keep going on drinking other stuff more.  That should help right?  My Mom says I look really bloated, I was like thanks Mom.  She didn't mean anything by it and it is true.  I came out of surgery with a swollen upper abdomen and chemo has just made it worse.  For my reconstruction I will be doing an implant with some lipo (fat) from my stomach, do you think I can get my PS to just suck ALL of the extra fat out?  I doubt it but I can fantasize right?

    I eventually got some sleep last night.  I decided to wait and take the sleeping pill tonight instead of last night.  I will need to get some sleep for work tomorrow and today I figured I could relax all day.  So hopefully the pill will help me get to sleep and get a decent nights sleep.  

    A new baby today, makes me happy and hopefull.  I hope the delivery goes well.  I only had one child, she has been married for a year.  Grandchildren will be in my future in another couple of years.  

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Just heard Barry Manilow's "I made it through the rain" on the radio....appropriate.

    (Though my rain isn't quite over! )

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Baby Shelbie Curry (don't ask about the middle name! LOL) is here

    449pm

    8lbs 9oz

    19.5"

    Mama, baby, dad & big sister Madison are all doing great. A very special delivery in my eyes!



    One of the worse days in SE history, but it was worth it to be there! A nice reminder of how blessed our lives are!



    Thank you all for the nice wishes for today! I don't think I'll be able to move now for a

    week! Haha



    I hope each and every one of you wonderful ladies has a pleasant evening!





    Lorrie (grandma X 3.... :)

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Congrats Gramma!

    Great size baby!

    Hope mother is doing well.

    Enjoy your sleep!

    Pat

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013
  • JillLoftus1
    JillLoftus1 Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2013

    I was dx EP/PR HER2 negative in April. Taking chemo first, took the red devil x 4 and now on taxol, having the 8th round tomorrow. My abdomen is so swollen and painful eps on the left side. I am driving myself crazy, thinking I have Mets to the liver even though I know the liver is on the right side. I have not gained any weight but am so swollen ESP. My abdomen. Has anyone else had this problem?

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Congrats Lorrie. A nice size baby!!!! And a trio of grandchildren!!!!

    Jill, my abdomen felt swollen during taxol too - I could bear to have waistbands touching it. U might wanna contact your doc though

    Ladies, I went swimming yesterday and it felt great. I need to keep up with the exercise now. Yesterday was the first day in a while that I didn't feel sick as a dog all day long. Back to work today

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Patty tamocifen in my future also. See mo on 12th to find out when. He told me 10 years is new Protocol. Does yours say the same? 10 years sounds daunting. I am notorious for forgetting antibiotics unless given zpack. I am hoping for long chemopause! Have not had period since first treatment. Was perimenopausal before dx.



    Jill my last dd taxol is this Thursday. I have bit of bloating but no belly pain. I do have a lot of shin pain. Every new pain causes me to think mets. Hard not to go there especially if I spend too much time on here reading other women's stories. I force myself to take a deep breath and then move on. I speak with mo who calms me down. I hope your mo has some answers for you.



    Lisa

  • JillLoftus1
    JillLoftus1 Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2013

    Thanks for your answers. I of course stayed up all night researching, went to bed and work up after s dream of another's bx of my stomach which is crazy way to wake up. I think it's worse when I stand up, but when I am laying down there is no pain and it is soft. Only occurs when I am standing or sitting. I see my MD on Wednesday which cannot come soon enough. I am usually a sane person and don't worry about anything knowing things take care of themselves. I hate this!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lpc,



    At my initial consult the mo mentioned the 10 years of tamoxifen. (She passed THAT test, as I had known about the 10 years by reading here! Lol, so I knew she was keeping "current")

    not looking forward to it either, she had told me to take vitamin D as mine is low but I just keep forgetting. I leave the bottle on the table so I will remember and my hubby moves it....I swear it is the only thing in the house he moves! So I forget. Sigh.



    Still awaiting to get her clearance to swimming a pool. Of course now it has been "chilly" so who needs to cool off! Lol

    That's ok, will be going to Florida end of .august, will need my pool clearance , for sure there will be no way it will be cool there!



    Pat

  • robin_in_SJ
    robin_in_SJ Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2013

    Laurie, congratulations! glad Shelbie Curry has made her arrival but sorry to hear it was bad SE day for you.   

    Theresa, I still have nausea and cannot sleep at night which is getting to me.  I have tried; Ambien, Atavin, Benedryl and I still wake up most nights for hours with hot flashes and having to go to the bathroom. I toss and turn so much that I end up getting up and going to sleep in a spare bedroom so my DH can sleep.  My dear dog is attached at my hip and stays with me throughout the night. 

    Lisa, my husband and I are dreaming of a vacation when this is all over but I’m too worried to plan anything since I have no idea when I feel up to it.  I would like to go to a beach it helps my soul just to walk on the beach, nap and read. 

    I had my first Taxol and will have the next on Friday.  I feel Taxol has been easier then AC. They gave me Benadryl during the first infusion and I went right to sleep.  DH said I sounded like a drunk when I tried to talk.  The SE are different but the fatigue isn't as bad with AC which was all consuming. Now I have some energy and feel good that I can do some things around the house.  I had finger and toe pain for days 3-6, back and leg pain and a sense of weakness when walking.  My big toe-nails are turning dark and starting to lift up from the nail bed.  I hope I don’t lose them.  My fingers were very sore but the nails seem okay so far. 

    I hope the next 3 Taxol infussions are similar to the first which so far has been easier than any of the AC treatments.  Let me know if Taxol is different with each treatment or some are harder than others.  That was my experience with AC.  #3 of AC tough and I was sick for the entire 2 weeks with SE.

    I see my oncologist on Friday and the Radiologist on the 20th.  The MO said I’ll need 4 weeks off between chemo and radiation and 5-6 weeks of radiation. 

    Hope everyone has a good week and so glad to hear a few have finished or will be finishing this week!  It’s inspiring!

    Robin

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Robin, taxol was easier than CTH but it did get worse each week. Weeks 5 and 6 were the worst for me. Hopefully yours won't be so bad.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Robin I pretty much breezed thru ac so taxol has been very hard on me with pain and fatigue. This has been worse since taxol was supposed to be easier. It seems to take me entire week to fully recover from each dose. B6 b12 and alpha lipoic acid got rid of any pain ot tingling in hands and feet. Have really missed the beach too. Nothing like sand ocean and good book.



    Patty it is supposedly chilly here too but my body doesn't seem to know it. Lol. Hubby thinks I am nuts.



    Lisa

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Jenna, 

        Thanks for the information!  Did the AC constipate you?  What are you taking for the diarrhea?  I also belong to the July Chemo group, and alot of the members are having trouble with the Taxol.  I can relate to the fatigue on the AC.  I still have two more doses to go and I cant imagine how exhausted I will be by then.  

         Are any of you other sisters on anti depressants?  I cant imagine having to take more pills just to feel better.....Oyyyyyyyyy !!!!!!

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Robin 

      How was AC #4 for you?  

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Well, surprised that I'm not in the hospital today after yesterday. I could barely walk and for the first time since starting treatment, it was so bad my hubby had to help me stand up and walk to the recliner to sleep last night. No way I was gonna be able to climb the stairs to bed...

    Today is a little better...



    Carla,

    You are absolutely right! I'm so glad my last one is the 22nd instead of starting!



    Pat,

    My Onc talked about doing Tamoxifen (prior to chemo) for 5 years... As my treatments have gone on and the subject is brought up, he is cautiously informing of wanting to do it longer.. He says to me "I'm sure you've read online about the studies showing the benefit for 10 years"... I think he's afraid I'm gonna melt down on him, so he treats me with baby gloves when he knows I'm not gonna like something...



    One thing is for sure.. (at least for me)



    Nothing...NOTHING in my life, has been as difficult for me as chemo... Physically, emotionally, all consuming... I truly feel I can handle anything they want to throw at me after this. As long as it's not chemo!!!



    I hope everyone is feeling as well as possible!



    Lorrie

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie,

    Your story about your onc preparing you made me chuckle,

    When it was my last chemo the oncologist came in and out on her happy face "usually people are excited" she said. I told her I was waiting for her to say "sorry two more rounds, just didn't want to tell you that in the beginning". She just laughed.

    I also was thinking of all those still going through treatment and those who will be in the future...so I couldn't let myself feel the moment and enjoy it. Oh well.



    Hope your side effects go away quickly.

    Pat

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Oh Lorrie, congratulations grandma. For whatever reason, reading about the new bundle of joy brought tears to my eyes. Much happiness to you and the family....now for you to feel better!

    Teresa-glad you got some sleep last night. Good luck for tonight and may you have a good work day tomorrow.

    Robin-Wishing you a good night's sleep also. I see that you had a tram flap. I would prefer a diem but a tram flap is a bigger possibility for me. May I ask, how did it go for you? Is it as difficult of a recovery as I've read? How do you like the outcome? Any comments would be appreciated.

    Re tamoxifen- the 3 people that I know of that took or still take it seem to have/had minimal side effects. Of course, once again, the unknown is a culprit. How are we as individuals going to react to it? My cousin is on it for life. Has been on it for maybe 30 years. I think it was year 25?? she got ovarian?? cancer (i guess that's not minimal) But her breast cancer never returned. She seems to be o.k. with taking it. I hope all of will get minimal to no side effects on it.



    Carla

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited August 2013

    My MO mentioned to me tamoxifen may be recommended for 10 years....I told him we can worry about that after I get the first 5 years in. Who knows what we will learn in 5 years.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Elkatho.... Excellent point..... Who knows.... We may have a sure cure by then for all cancers!



    We can hope, right?!

  • robin_in_SJ
    robin_in_SJ Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2013

    Hannariggs—For me #3 was the worse, I never felt okay and felt like I didn’t get out of bed for 5-6 days.  I was so worried about #4 but I kept telling myself…1 more and it will be over.  #4 was okay and much better than #3.  I asked my MO if after #3 they changed the dosage for #4 because I felt better with #4.  The dose was the same so it wasn’t my complaining that changed things ;-) 

    The MO told me the fatigue will get worse with each dose.  With the first Taxol it hasn’t been as bad as it with AC but  who knows what the next 3 will be like.

    Carla—I had a BMX and immediate reconstruction with the Tram flap surgery.  I had 6 weeks of recovery and it was doable but I was surprised at how weak I for the first few weeks.  I  was small chested before the surgery but I wanted to have some shape, I am still small chested but I like being the same size.  The results are good and I didn’t have any issues besides just the time it took to recover.  I’ll see my PS after chemo to discuss nipples and any other issues.   I slept in a recliner for the first 2-3 weeks after I was home and am so glad I had it because it takes time to be able to stand up straight or get comfortable in bed.     The drains are no fun—I called them my jewelry.  Showering was a challenge and needed a nap after a shower for a while.  I had a bath chair and a hand held shower head that made it easier to wash.  

    I had a good afternoon today, my daughter called and her boss gave her a comp day and she wanted to know if I wanted to do anything so we went to the pool at her condo, it has a salt treatment instead of clorine. It was a beautiful day, 80 and sunny. It felt so good to get into a pool and do laps.  I had fun spraying my head with sunscreen before diving in.  Hoping the exercise will help me sleep tonight ;-)

    Robin

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Hi all,

    I'm 5  days post 1st infusion of AC.  Have had nausea and pain and C and D.   Now, I have jsut C.  Two days. I've tried Mirolax without effect and I have consumed 3 liters of beverages whichf or me in one day is a lot.  Ideas?

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