August 2013 Chemo Sisters
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Just dropping in to make sure everyone is aware of cold cap therapy. I used cold caps and kept my hair, my privacy, and a bit of control.
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HVV, sorry you are nauseous , I don't know if this will help but I didn't have very much nausea the name of my anti-nausea drug is Prochlorperazine 10mg. Maybe your doctor could try it for you. I also drank about 4 litres of water the day before, day of and day after then I still drank but a little less. Just thoughts that might help you.
Love, Rayna -
I think partly we freak because then EVERYONE knows - it outs us as sick. We become "victims" and "objects of pity" everywhere we go. And our hair is so culturally part of our femininity, like our breasts, that we personally feel the loss of it - however temporary- as yet another blow to how we see ourselves.
My onc recommended getting a wig to discourage "weird people" who come up to you to tell you " their stories". Guess she hears about a lot of that? I may get one just for the grocery store, trips to target, etc. also, got a teen daughter who might want me to look pseudo- normal for back to school nite ; )
Hugs, guys! -
Hope everyone is managing okay, whether beginning chemo or the blues over losing your hair. Wanted to stress the hand washing thing, I am on Day 13 and just got admitted into the hospital. I woke from a nap yesterday around 6 and had a fever of 37.7 my Onco nurse said 38 and higher get to the hospital. I laid down and waited about 1/2 an hour and it was 38.5 so here I am. My White Blood Cell count is of course low but something called Nutraphils are extremely low. They are dosing me with heavy duty antibiotics and trying to find what kind of infection I have, apparently if it's viral, it's okay but bacterial is a bad one. So have no idea how i got sick or who I came in contact with but hand washing is obviously important.
Good Luck to anyone starting chemo this up coming week.
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Raynaj-so sorry you ended up in the hospital but at least they will be able to take care of your infection. I hope you get to feeling better soon and will be able to go back home to relax.
HVV-I hope you are starting to feel better. Sending hugs your way! -
I will have my first chemo on August 8th so I am joining this wonderful group and have already learned so much for my first treatment. Thank you all for sharing! It really does set my mind at ease knowing a little of what to expect before and after. Not quite the scary unknown it has been. My sense of humor has taken a beating now that I have chosen to have chemo. My Oncotype score was 21....had really been hoping for under 18. But nope! But there is a certain sense of purpose knowing what has to happen from now on and when this will all be "over". Is it ever over though? I am hoping that choosing chemo for my disease will give me peace of mind for the future...the stats seem to point in that direction, but who knows? I am hoping that my sense of humor will return soon....maybe its under the couch?
Hugs to all of you from Vermont!
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Greetings Gigi! I'll follow you the next day with 1 st tx.
Rayna, so sorry re hospital! Neutrophils are, what, one of the whilst blood cells? I'm going to have to learn to be militant about hand washing, and not pick at my cuticles, sigh! Maybe just wear gloves all the time at work, lol (I work at a retirement home). -
Gigi: Welcome and whether we are ever going to be done with this, I would imagine it lingers for a while even when everything is done. As long as we are living our lives and not letting the cancer rule it. Wishing you the best when Chemo starts on the 8th. I have my second one scheduled for the 13, I hope I can still do it.
Carol: Wearing gloves would be a good idea, my opinion. Is working at a retirement home safe for you, oh you said retirement NOT nursing home right? Good luck on the 9th for your chemo.
Love, Rayna -
Good morning ladies, there are to many here to name and address one by one so I just want everyone of us starting or going through chemo this month to be blessed with peace of our minds, bodies and souls🙏 I just retired in May after doing hair for 25 years and I have shaved many women's heads due to chemo but I never thought I would be doing my own, it is scary! I keep telling my Hubbs that in a couple of weeks I won't have hair ( ironic I spent 1/4 of a century) making a living coloring and cutting hair and now I won't have any😕I think I may go to the salon this week and get a really short pixie so that when it falls out there will not be so much. I hope everyone has a great day, we are going with family to Chineese Champagne brunch, I told every one that after the 15th I won't be able to do buffetts for awhile.
Shary🌞 -
Rayna, it IS a nursing home, skilled as well as residential - I just didn't use the more specific terminology. Not only gloves but maybe a mask as well at times, i imagine. And no sick time off - it's a newish job where I get paid by the hour. Fortunately I'm a retired state employee with great insurance and a decent (but bare bones) retirement check. If I get too sick to work, I've got options, God be praised.
Shary, still trying to imagine the Chimese champagne brunch ; ). And my hub plans to shear me when the time comes - too bad I won't be back in Big Pine then! -
I'm not freaking out because 'everyone knows' - then again I am retired so it's not like I'm going to be calling in sick anywhere and get a lot of unwanted wellwishers, co-workers you wish would just die but all of the sudden they are your staunchest cheerleaders...
Today is Sunday, Chemo starts Tuesday. I'm starting to freak a bit because even though I've been reading the boards all over the place, I still have no idea what to expect personally as far as physical discomfort goes. So many survivors and current patients will tell you every detail, but that still doesn't tell me how it's going to affect me and my body. Will I be vomitting nonstop? Will I have bone pain? I thought I was tough but the recent IV Port installation crumbled me like a baby.
Friends ask what I'm expecting and I tell them I can say they'll be doing this and this, but as to how I will feel about it, both emotionally and physically, is totally up in the air. I'm afraid to read too many "and here's how it affected me..." accounts because i'm embarrassingly somatic, although hiding exposure to other's details really has no effects, because the other ways my body reacts in a somatic way was not something I'd ever heard of before (Dystonia) but also, I was healthy as a horse in my twenties and then started getting horrible kidney infections, for no good reason, more than I can count between 1981 and 1984. No one could figure out why they were so recurring and seriously dangerous.
But the month I started psychotherapy, the infections ceased immediately, not to reoccur for over a decade, and then again, it was in reaction to some emotional chaos.
I'm not saying that my getting cancer is a reaction to a bad childhood, just that I understand how important attitude is in terms of long term health and survival. I've stayed really positive, people keep asking me how I do it and I say 'I've gotten way too good at that 'accept what you cannot change' thing'. That's still very true, I can't change that I have BC, no longer have Tits (not a bad thing, i was never a girly girl although I am heterosexual.)
Any way, my sunny resolve is starting to crumble earlier than i'd 'planned'. I think of chemo as pumping poison in my veins, and medically I understand how that's supposed to work, and usually it does help.
I'm just getting scared because my drip date is getting closer by the second.
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Hi, thank you all for the good wishes. I was unprepared for that level of nausea. I had chemo last year (CT) and it was less - much less until the second half.
I ate lightly today and yesterday, had both C and D sicne Thursday's infusion, and headaches due to the zofran.
I feel better though not well tonight.
I find that when I yawn, my belly hurts a lot. does yours?
I drank lots of seltzer and mineral water and am hoping for the best.
Thanks for your good wishes.
V
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Good thoughts to all! I just got home from work, but stopped and bought eyelashes! Can you believe it! With everything else, this is what I think of? I had my lumpectomy on 6/13 and back for margins on the 26th. My medical oncologist was on vacation for a week after that. Then when I saw her, she wanted the oncytype test done, so I waited another two weeks for that. Then I had a tooth abscess and now I am on Penicillin for 10 days. I'm really getting nervous. Is this waiting too long? I am scheduled for my port this week, and chemo planned start date of the 14th. I hope this abscess thing won't hold things up longer. It's not improving fast enough for me. I'm still concerned.
I agree that we can learn about what to expect, but each of us will be different...
Gigi, my oncotype score was 41 (#@*&, bad word).
Rayna, hope you kick that infection quickly!
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Jelly, Thanks for all the good kid ideas!
Beeve, hope your port is getting less uncomfortable..
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Shalimar60: WOW! 41 holy c***p! I just found some eyelashes in my makeup and was going to throw them out, have never been good at putting them on and I was thinking they might come in handy.
Rayna: Hope you get rid of the infection soon!!
Carolpr56: We are almost chemo twins
Hugs from Vermont!
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Shalimar, I bought an eyebrow pencil today, lol, and a lint brush to remove body hair once it starts to fall out :-) Random items added to my shopping lists are the norm anymore for me. And as far as waiting too long to start chemo, I was told 9 weeks from surgery is the longest they like to wait, but I don't know if that's standard or just my docs.
V, I really hope your SE lighten up soon. Or at least that you have a good day so you can reboot for the next wave.
Hugs to everyone, this month is so hard and scary and maddening.
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Feeling better; not well but much better. God, I forgot how terrible this thing is.
Thank you all,
V
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Heading out for my 1/2 inch haircut. Thought it would be a no big deal but a little scared.
V
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Hi to you all,
I am from the June chemo group, and just finished 4x T&C yesterday. Wanted to let anyone on that regime know that it really isn't too bad. Had crappy couple of first days in the first week post each treatment, then gradually felt fine, really, through to second and third weeks (completely ok) ..It wasn't cumulative at all either, if anything i think my body got more accostomed to it, with really minimal side effects, worst taxotere rash with the third round. Did have a reaction to the tax infusion twice, but not with first or last...
Avoided the big c with prunes, herbal lax... Ate lightly, no nausea..
Tried to drink enough...
So you can and will get through it; on the hair front mine fell out just before second treatment, I bought a realistic wig, had it thinned a bit, and so far, haven't left the house without it, my kids like it, so do I, the colour very realistic, and I don't think I could take any attention over no hair when out etc.. Luckily it's winter here in Australia, it keeps my head warm. Taking two of my kids skiing here next week.. Bit worried re keeping it on etc.. O well thems the breaks!!
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rayna I hope you are feeling better. Thank you for stressing hand washling. I think sometimes its not real to me so I get lax about things> I'm on day 7. My dry bad tasting mounth really bothers me. Ive been drinking water and using biotene. So far I dont think things have been that eventful to me. Mostly just feeling blah like flu symptons, body aches and I cant taste anything,
Gigi-Welcome. I hear you about the oncotype, i was all set for radiation only until the i came back with a score of 32. If your sense of humor hasnt come back yet it will! Like Rayna said live life dont let cancer rule it.
HVV- sure hope you feel better!
I had my first chemo july 30 Im on day 7. what is the norm for day 8,9,10......when do things let up? Are # 2,3,4 worse? just curious about the norm.
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V sorry you feel so awful!
Ingrid, that's hopeful news! My first TC has been pushed back for the 10th to the 13th, sigh. Peace777, I'm with ya, gal! I look forward to both of y'all's updates... -
Evening sweet Ladies,
Jellyk: Thinking that I need a lint brush just makes me giggle!
Peace777: Thank you for the welcome!
Rayna: I hope you feel better soon girly!
V: I hope you are feeling better soon too!
Count down to Thursday for first chemo....was a little nervous but a woman I work with had Hodgkins Lymphoma three years ago so she is hand holding me through the process. We even have the same Oncologist!
Life it good today
Hugs to all from Vermont!
Gigi
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Feeling better; drank 3 liters of liquid yesterday. Much more than my norm. Had mirolax just now as well but no luck. Any ideas? Not uncomfortable but something's got to work. (it been two days). Sorry for the detail.
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Hi ladies,
Feeling a. Bit anxious tonight. I am starting chemo on the 19th, reading the post, I feel like a big baby, but I have to be honest, it scares the daylight s out of me. I just can't believe this is happening, and I'm scared. Thanks for letting me vent... God Bless -
Hi ladies, how you all doing? Ok just want to let you know that on the day of chemo start taking your poo tablets. I took senokot max strength so morning and night till you go. If I didn't do it by day three or four the pain was terrible. My onco said you must keep on top of this as it is a real problem with chemo. Also drink water till it runs out clear ( sorry to much info ) avoid bread it will make it worse so fruit, raw veg and lots of ice cream.
I covered myself in moisturiser day and night because it goes dry and spotty ( arms) this really helps. I would use tinted moisturiser as well to give colour and it made me feel better.
Your eyes my stream so I wore sun glasses even inside ( many people did this at chemo centre, so funny) gets worse with more chemo and not having eye lashes, the wind makes it worse.
Use your eyebrow pencil to fill in or eye shadow is softer. Do this now because when you lose them all it's a bugger to know where to draw. I have looked like a clown before ( kids thought it was funny ) if you have money get them tattoo on they look great. If I knew better then I would have gone for the tattoo so much easier and looks more normal.
Ice fingers and toes whilst doing chemo to stop them falling off. Buy some tap to strap them if they do come away as it can take a while for it to happen and you keep catching them on clothes.
Most important thing is do your house work two days before chemo then nothing for a week after the chemo so lots of rest . If you have money get cleaners in to do bathrooms, floors, windows and ironing.
Make dinners and put in freezer but remember to get them out ( we had a few take always which was a god send as your so knackered)
Ask friends and family for help with lifts I'm sure you have helped others.
Most of all think of this as short term however much you cry and hate it. It has to be done and ticked off the list to get cancer out of your body.
Good luck ladies you can do this!!!!
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Ali68, thanks for the tips/hints! I DO want to think that your advice about icing your hands refers to the fingernails, etc. and not the fingers themselves coming off ; ). ???
Had some gruesome visuals there, like a Monty Python sketch about lepers! -
Haha so funny! Yes nails, sorry. Xx
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I'm about to leave for my first Chemo appointment. I'm scared but hopefully prepared. Wish me luck.
beeve
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All the best, beeve!
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Beeve and cutiekool, it will be so much better when you are done with the first infusion, then you really feel better about the unknown. You'll find out how strong you are, and you are stronger than you think. We all are.
Beeve it will be such a relieve to get the first one done yeaaaaaa!!!!!
Gigi it awesome you have support from someone that has been through it!
carolpr56 we seem to have a few things in common. same med tc, lumphectomy, grade...also not sure how you came up with carolpr56, but my name is carol and I was born in 56 is that close to where it came from??
Remember "Where we are weak, God is strong" and "we can do all things through Christ who gives us strenth"
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