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  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Yes Teresa, it will get better. And the coolest thing for you, is that after this go around, you are done. Finished. Completed. Never to go through it again. :)) Hope it gets better quickly.



    Carla

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Jenna...

    That's funny! I only had 726... Lol.

    I get a few throughout the day, maybe once every couple hours.. Then they start getting more frequent in the evening & night. I'll have to ask the doc about that.... Good question... Maybe it's as we are starting to relax and not so active?

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited August 2013

    JennaJMU - I could have wrote your exact post.  I too was suffering with hot flashes mostly at night.  My MO suggested Vitamin E and it has worked.  They aren't gone but they aren't as frequent and I don't wake up with my pillow soaking wet.  I have also gained 10 pounds since diagnosis.  UGH.  Scarred, bald and fat isn't so attractive. My poor husband should be running for the hills.  Heck I don't even want to see me naked. LOL  I started going back to the gym a few days a week last month but the scale hasn't budged.  So depressing.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Theresa... & a couple of others... This seems to have been hardest on you guys while I complain......

    You are my inspiration! Everyone here is, really.....

    I think without finding this group, I'd be in much worse shape mentally!

    Who started this group anyway? Oh yeah!!

    THANK YOU KATE!!!!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    I feel the need to comment on people who stare.



    I wear my buffs when I go out.

    I can't say I have noticed people staring while out and about in my area and I really don't care if they do, I am who I am.



    This past Monday I drove to Pennsylvania to visit my mother and when I stopped in at a fast food place I happened to turn and "look at the audience"...I caught about 7 people seated that were staring, some with mouth agape! I was floored, not because of the staring, I could care less....is it a "regional thing"? I really don't "catch" anyone staring in my neck of the woods in NY.



    I wonder if my buffs make me look "odd"?



    Also, I have noted that cashiers seem to be very nervous lately...making change, ringing out my purchases....I'm wondering if it is "my look" or are all the cashiers suddenly "new" and don't know what they are doing! I find this amusing.



    Am I crazy?

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Pat,

    You rang the bell on the cashier thing! (no pun intended)

    I was in a convenience store the other day and the clerk asked:



    "can I ask what you did to your arm? (pointing to my picc line that is covered with my own style of cover -a piece i cut from som tights that match what i wear - rather than looking all medical)"



    Lol... I said "yeahhhhhhh..... I went and got breast cancer & that's where they give me my chemo"... She was silent... We stood there for a second and I said..."have a nice night" and left her still speechless.... I'm a bad person... I'm still giggling over it. The poor thing...

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Dang...

    Can't get sleepy tonight (i forgot about that part of treatment day) & have to get up at 5am for work.... Another long day... BUT then it's the weekend ...and....



    My daughter went to doc today.. Dilated 4cm. Doc can't believe she's not in labor yet so he "swiped the membrane" didnt break the water... Its something different?? to help induce and if not on her own, she goes in Sunday to be medically induced! I'm so excited...... But it will be one of my worse SE days... This will make all the pain disappear that day!

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Regarding the staring, If I'm wearing a baseball cap (i usually wear a cap over a bandana) then I feel a lot more normal than when I'm wearing a scarf. But I'll feel more normal in my buff than in a scarf.  For some reason, a scarf seems to scream "cancer person"  

    I have to DJ a Bat Mitzvah on August 24th and when I first met the family, it was ages ago, way "pre-diagnosis" and we just spoke on the phone yesterday and he wants to meet up again before the even so I'm going to obviously wear my wig and HOPE that he doesn't mention anything....I hope I have my strength back for that gig.  That will be my first one since May.  I can't believe my last gig was a few days after my first round of Chemo!!!!  That day seems like a blur to me now...

    So I've had this sign hanging in my kitchen that a friend made for me that says "Suck It Cancer" and last night as we were watching TV, it suddenly fell down!  I said to DH "That's not a good sign" and he said "Well, I think it fell down because you sucked it to cancer and you don't need it"

    I'm staying off work again today.  I'm still so mad at my work for not giving me the job they promised me and not even aknowledging it.  I have decided that they are not good people :(  They never ask me how I"m feeling etc.  They basically ignore me :(

    Itiswhatits...(I wish I knew your name)....the doc swipped my membraines 3 times with my 3rd child and I still ended up being induced!!!  But if she's 4 cm already, that's only 6 more that she has to do!!!

    My hot flashes are WAY WORSE at night too.  So frigging wierd!!!!  I feel like i"m getting ALL the Side Effects with this last dose of Taxol - I keep imagining it like the finale at a Firework display where every single firework gets fired off in the last few minutes....

    Who's glad it's August??????

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie, I never heard of "swiping the membrane"...I'm guessing it is like scoring something before you break it? Sounds like it is weakening that membrane. I'm betting she is in labor before Sunday.



    Ukkate, maybe Bat Mitzvah people will want you to wear a head covering? Are they orthodox? Then you can wear your buff! Wouldn't that be nice and comfy!

    As for the sign falling down, I'm with your husband. I didn't even get to your explanation when I felt that it meant you are good to go! (Did I ever tell you I am sometimes psychic?)



    Pat









  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    My flashes start around 4 in afternoon and last all night long! Poor dh had to get out winter blanket to deal with ac level. Kids complain its freezing. I tell all to put on more clothes cuz I am HOT!



    I only wear ballcap now. I might be oblivious but I notice no staring. I do get lots of customers who come up and share their own cancer stories which has been nice. At my kohl's we have many repeat customers and since I have been there 5 years they know me and have become another part of my support.



    Kate that really sucks about your work! I would continue take off when necessary and not think twice about it.



    Hope that baby arrives soon Itis. Thoughts of future grandbabies is what keeps me fighting somedays.



    Working this weekend. Hope all have good weekend.



    Lisa

  • TinaHoff
    TinaHoff Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2013

    Thank you, thank you, thank you UKKate for mentioning the weight gain during chemo!  I am up 18 pounds during this taxol round.  I gained 11 during A/C, and it all came off again during my break before starting taxol.  I am hopeful the same will be true once I am through with this one.  I have 8 more infusions to go...

    This forum is a blessing to me, thanks to all of you.  My husband is wonderful, but you ladies understand and talk about all the details that I am also concerned about.  It's a relief to know other women are dealing with the same things, and thriving.  It gives me hope.

    Tina

  • JennaJMU
    JennaJMU Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2013

    Tina how long was your break after AC?? It's good to know it comes off! I'm so depressed about my weight gain. I had my daughter in December 2011 and with breast feeding (protects against bc my ass) and diet I weighed less than before I was pregnant. I was so happy where I was at and now I'm back to my "normal" weight that I was never happy with. The super melt and sundae I just had at Friendly's isn't helping my cause any.

  • TinaHoff
    TinaHoff Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2013

    Hi JennaJMU,

    I had a little over 3 weeks off.  It seemed like I dropped about one half or three-quarters of a pound a day, and I did NOTHING different.  I was eating like crazy, and still the weight went down.  Whereas some days while I was doing the dose dense A/C, I barely ate, and I still gained weight!  So annoying...

    Don't beat yourself up about your weight (I know, it's hard) and don't begrudge yourself a sundae on the days when you DON'T feel nauseas for a change.  Heaven knows, those days are rare enough on A/C.  After you finish with this journey, you will have you whole life ahead of you, chasing your baby around and getting your groove back. :)

    Hugs,

    Tina

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Jeez...

    Gotta love a hubby with no filter.... He told me tonight I look butch.... Jerk!



    It's funny cuz there was a time I think after my first treatment (I still had hair) and he made a comment in a restaurant about a lady with short hair being "butch" I called him a jerk and started crying right there at our table.... I said, "you know im not going to have any hair in a few weeks right?".. & he became all apologetic & such....He prefers long hair on women and really is a jerk when it comes to short hair...



    But when he said it to me tonight I just broke down! I'm so tired of looking this way & I am so tired of not feeling right & i especially don't need to hear his snarky comments about it.. Ugh!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Lorrie,

    Sorry he said that. Especially when he already knew you didn't like it.

    Wish there was something I could do to make it better.

    Maybe our husbands "chores camp" can also include an additional week at "get a clue camp".

    HUGS.

    Pat

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Hello. I am dropping in from the August group to ask if it is possible to work while on AC. X4. Plus T x 12. Thanks. I'm a college administrator with significant student contact.

  • JennaJMU
    JennaJMU Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2013

    Tina, your post was so motivating to me, it's so good to know it could just fall off! Even when I eat super heathy and try to restrict nothing happens so it has to be the chemo or drugs.



    HVV, I haven't worked during chemo but it would have been really hard on AC, I was just so exhausted. On taxol x 12 I feel so much more normal but my blood counts are lower than on AC (no neulasta shot with weekly taxol) so that would be my only concern about germ exposure. Some people work all the way through-my coworker did, same treatment, and we're drug reps in doctors offices with sick patients all the time!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Hvv I did dose dense ac and dose dense taxol. I worked thru it all. I work retail so dirty money sick people and I never got sick. Carried hand disinfectant with me and used often.



    Good luck to you. Feel free to ask lots of questions of us. Many of us are almost donlisa

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited August 2013

    Lorie - sorry your husband said that :(  My husband hates short hair too.  Thankfully he hasn't made a comment on my noggin....

    HVV, I tried really hard to work during my dose dense TCH but I usually ended up taking off 10 days after each treatment because I felt so terrible.  I got switched to weekly taxol after two treatments and I was pretty much able to work through that.

    Tina - Your post was motivating to me too. Why do the doctors say that chemo doesn't cause weight gain?  I wish they'd be more honest.  I know I've been eating a bit crappier since starting chemo but not enough to gain that much weight.  My doc is "Dr Minimize" - every treatment he always makes me think it's gonna be a walk in the park, but the reality is that it never is...

    I've been SUPER nauseaus this time around with Taxol - almost like the TCH :(  Last night I ended up going to bed at 9 just because I couldn't stand it anymore.  I am hoping this starts to subside...and the more Zofran I take, the more constipated I become.  And it's not helping with the nausea that much so I'm not going to take any today.  Liquids continue to be the problem.  Everything I drink makes me feel more crappy :(

    Does sometimes reading stuff on Facebook make you sad?  It seems to me that everyone on Facebook is having such a jolly time - going to the beach, and the pool, and on date nights etc...I don't wish for them to be miserable, but it certainly doesn't make me feel any better :(

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2013

    Kate I too miss summer vacations. One dd took off for new Orleans yesterday another dd off to ocean city for the week. Ds off to myrtle beach in 2 weeks. I cant even enjoy own pool cuz I just cant tolerate the sun and heat while on chemo. Am hoping for long weekend at beach in September but that will depend on radiologist I suppose. As for date nights ...no energy for that. I need to plan a vacation for when all this is done but I don't want to go looking like cancer patient. Silly I suppose but I want hair back and to feel pretty again first.



    Lisa

  • Hannariggs
    Hannariggs Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2013

    Hi Jenna, 

     I am new to your board and am receiving the same type of treatments as your are.  I am receiving DD 4xAC, 12xTaxol.  I have only had two ac doses with another one this week.  I was wondering if you could give any tips on your journey and let me know if taxol is any easier.  Thanks, God Bless..

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    Ukkate-Can relate to the Facebook thing. I am happy for my Facebook friends who are having the time of their lives, or seem like their lives are a constant wonderland. When I am the most down, I think woos me. I must say though, that I keep in contact on a more personal level with a few and I know the rest of the story. They definitely have their crosses to bear. It just isn't advertised on Facebook.

    Hannariggs-Welcome to the forum. So sorry that that you have the big C, but the support and comradery that is here is wonderful. I do not get the same treatment you do, however many do and I am sure you will hear about it.



    A good and minimal S.E. weekend to all.



    Carla

  • JennaJMU
    JennaJMU Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2013

    Hannariggs, I find Taxol to be so much easier than AC. I didn't have any nausea with AC but I was bone tired and couldn't get off the couch, which led to depression. With Taxol my energy level is closer to normal. I have diarrhea on Sundays after my Friday treatment (sorry TMI but we can talk about the nasty stuff here right?) and some bone/muscle pain but nothing debilitating!

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    Sometimes FB can be very depressing.  Some bring too much of their drama and issues there.  Then yes I get a little upset. They seem to have such minor problems but make them huge and I just want to say that I would trade them places for just a day.  

    I was hoping this would be a good weekend, I guess my last round of chemo really wants to give it to me.  Still not feeling good here and in desperate need of some sleep.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited August 2013

    Teresa,

    I hope you are able to get your much needed rest...can you take Benadryl? Or melatonin ? Or maybe doctor can recommend something?



    I agree trivial things on other people's plate can be irritating. Those people have never had to deal with the bigger issues (thankfully?!). I am sure at some point or another I griped about some minor issue...even here...and others are thinking "is she kidding?". It is all a matter of perspective. Remember , whatever we are going through there is probably someone going through worse....this is what I tell myself and my hubby , and my kids all the time. He gets sick of my saying it too! However, that doesn't mean I can't complain...we all need to release somehow. I pray that others will not have to walk in our shoes, and if they have to that they find the support they need like the wonderful people here.



    Sweet dreams!

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited August 2013

    Well put, Pat!



    Kate, I hope you're resting!



    Well, just like clockwork.... Treatment Thursday & about noon today the numbing of my feet & up my legs.... Aches starting in my back and ribcage and working it's way down my body.... Frequent trips to the potty.. UGH! Here we go....



    At least I knew it was coming and got to the feed store for my chicken's food, grocery store for people food, made cookies, a big crock of chili is cooking and cornbread done! Going to have family dinner tonight cuz my Linzee is going in tomorrow morning to bless us with another granddaughter... I'll feel like crap, but it will be a wonderful day!



    Now, nap time for me too before the family comes over....



    Happy thoughts all!!

    Lorrie

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited August 2013

    Teresa,  I was having a hard time sleeping - so tired, but sleep would not come.. I ask for sleeping pill and my onc., nurse said to try two tylenol pm with one benadryl-I did and it worked. If you can take those two it might worth a try to see if they work- I'm sorry you are having this difficulty along with every thing else.

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited August 2013

    Patty-  I agree! We can always find someone who is worse off than we are-and feel blessed that we are so fortunate, but that does not negate the struggle we are having with our own issues, and I think we still have a right to complain about them (:

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited August 2013

    Yes there are definitely those that have things a lot harder than I do and I do not want to have a day in their shoes. This is one reason I am so happy to have found all of you.  Some of us are getting different treatments but we are all sort of going through the same thing and can understand where each other is coming from.  I thank all of you for being here.

    I took Tylenol PM last night at 11 pm, finally went to sleep around 4 am.  I haven't tried it with Benadryl before.  I do have sleeping pills that don't always work, I am taking one tonight.  I have got to get some rest.  Weird how even when I don't sleep at night I am so awake during the day.  I guess I just have too many drugs in my system and I am just out of whack.  Pills for thrush, pills for fever, pills for diarrhea, blood pressure pills [I didn't need these until my BC diagnosis], hot flashes pills [I wished they worked], vitamin E for hot flashes and B6 for tingly fingers.  Not to mention the chemo drugs still flowing in my body.  OMG now that I listed all of those I see why my stomach doesn't feel good and I am not resting.  But I am doing OK.  :-)

    I have done too much reading now about radiation and am so confused on what to do.  I hate gray areas.  I do have some time to figure things out.  I think part of my problem was the radiologist I met with.  If I do go forward I will go to a different one.    

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited August 2013

    I have never taken sleeping pills but I read on here I think about Ativan for sleep(?) so I ask my onc. nurse for a perscription for some-she advised me to try the 2 Tylenol PM with Benadryl first  and if that didn't work she would get me a perscription, fortunately it worked. I know when my body gets over tired form lack of sleep, regardless how tired I am I have a hard time gettting to sleep -that may be what is happneing to you -  I hope the sleeping pill works for you tonight  b/c you do need the res-maybe it will come tonight...You do take a multitude of pills for various side effects ): I am so sorry-- You are one of the ones who is having a way worse time of it than I am ):

    I hope you get some rest tonight..

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