just scared of the unknowns
I am waiting to have my surgery next monday, 7/22 & my thoughts have been up & down with all this. They have said from what they seen my IDC is stage 1 grade 3, but I am worried when I have the surgery they might find it spread. I know I worry about things before they happen, has anyone else felt this way. Does anyone know how fast it spreads? I know my doctor says it grows slowly, that it won't grow that fast in a few weeks but how does he know?
Anyone have any comfort?
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I felt the same way you are. I was diagnosed on Nov. 2012 and had my surgery on Dec. 7,2012. I didn't have any problems with my surgery, my chemp (while no picnic) was doable and no radiation needed. We are all scared of the unkown and if anyone says they weren't initially, they're not being truthful. As you can see, I had a very aggressive cancer and I had node involvement. My surgeon and Oncologist have always been very encouraging about my prognosis. I don't think you could get an answer about how fast it grows. Some grow faster than others but at the same time, I think everyone is different. Your staging could be different after surgery. Mine was. I encourage you to think positive. They've come so far with the treatment of breast cancer and I think the biggest thing is catching it early and sounds like you have. You will see and meet many survivors who didnt catch it early and they are too, doing well. I'm sorry you had to join us here but you have. I believe we become survivors the moment we are diagnosed. There are lots of knowledgable people on these threads. Any question I've had, they have answers and no question is too silly. Good luck with your surgery on Monday!! You will do fine and have all the answers you need to feel better, beat this disease and get on with your life.
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We all so understand your fears but the dr does know because it does seem to grow slowly. Stage 1 is at least early stage BC; the grade level is high. There is no way to know if it has spread until they do the surgery and most importantly get the Path report back. I have Stage II, Grade 1 IDC. I was Stage I before surgery but after the Path report came back there was a micromet in the SNode so I went to Stage II. Any node involvement typically moves you up a stage. I had a lumpectomy followed by 33 RADS treatments and am currently taking Tamoxifen. Once the Path report is back your doctor will refer you, if you dont have one already, to an Oncologist. That person will be your BFF from now on. The good news is BC and the treatment of has come a long way. No longer is it the death sentence it was once thought to be. Early detection is key. The waiting is really tough but once your surgery is done the post surgery decisions will be made rather quickly. Even though a lot of us have different stages and grades we are all in agreement that you have to have faith in general and faith in your doctor in particular. Good luck. diane
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Thank you ladies for the encouragement - I've been concentrating hard on trying to be positive but my mind gets on something & it starts to wander off. I hate worrying & being anxious, I've been giving it to God , but I must be picking it up again. Thanks for caring
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(((soccermomof4))) so sorry you are in the "waiting" period...it is so tough. I am a worrier and a planner, in the absence of details my mind "fills in the blanks" and often with the "worst case scenario" but, once the facts are on the table and you know exactly what you are facing it will feel better. We all struggle with being positive when we face the unknown - and, breast cancer is so full of unknowns, especially in the beginning because - there is no "one" clear plan to treat it, just lots of decisions to make and we are all different and cancer impacts us differently but as others have said - you will have a team on your side to fight this beast and they have lots of "weapons" to use. Hang in there "Let go, Let God"...we're here for you too...I'll be thinking of you on the 22nd and keeping you in my thoughts and prayers (((Hugs))) Maureen
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Soccermom - when I was first dx, someone told my husband and me,"Don't go there until you get there." That became our mantra to get us through the bad times. Focus on your current and next decision - do your research, get second opinions, and learn your options. Knowledge is power. Don't let your mind wander down the "what if" paths of the future. If things end up for the better, then think of all the time you wasted worrying for nothing. If things end up being not so good, then all your worrying didn't change that outcome anyway, and all you did was waste precious time worrying.
It's hard to keep the mind from going to sinister, but my husband and I kept reminding each other of the mantra whenever the other one's mind wandered too far down the "what if" road. As others have said, the beginning is the worst. Once you get your path report, learn exactly what you're up against, and get your medical team lined up, you'll have your game plan set and you get into treatment mode. It really does ease your mind once you're out of the waiting time and into the action time. Good luck!
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soccermomof4, i remember my mom feeling the same way, but they landed up finding LESS for her. First they thought it was 1.5 cm and after surgery, it decreased in size to less. And if you are stage 1, you might qualify for oncotype which may mean treatment may be less for you too. Of course this is awful waiting for every result, but feel positive that you got it all out of your body. I know it is a maybe, but sometimes surgery reveals a better situation than they were expecting. I hope this happens for you.
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Hi Soccermom. I am right there with you... my surgery is 8/7 and it will be 7 weeks from DX... my dr. promised that it will not grow that fast so I have just been happy with being able to enjoy part of the summer (swimming a lot with my 15 month old) and mentally preparing. I too am also scared they will "upstage" me after surgery and just can't stop thinking of the day we get "final pathology"... reading this thread has helped me and just knowing we caught this early means we will be okay, whatever we have to go through... in the end that's ALL I care about... I love seeing all the survivors on here... no matter their DX, they are doing great... so thankful for modern medicine...
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Thank you everyone for the encourgament - I had a much better day today!!
I just need to keep my mind focused on the Lord!!
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I was just diagnosed with IDC on July 8,2013. I am having surgery on July 25, 2013. I am having Breast-conserving surgery. Today I was told he is going to remove a large area around it and 3 lymph nodes for testing. From all the test that I have had done he does not think it has spread and that it is just isolated but he will not know for sure until he gets in there. The waiting is the hardest part. After surgery I will receive radiation.
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Hi sharyp810.
Welcome to Breastcancer.org, although we're sorry you've had to join us!
We understand how terrible the waiting is and how difficult is to keep your mind away from thinking about the results so, if you can, try to stay busy, exercise, hang out with friends, etc.
We wish you the best of luck on your surgery. Please let us know how it goes.
---The Mods
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DebDylan, you can have a grade 3 tumor with any stage. Grade 3 means it's faster growing, but if it's caught early you can still be stage 1. I fit that category with a 5mm invasive tumor (I also had 2.5 cm of DCIS but that doesn't enter into the staging). I had no node involvement and am stage 1a. I opted for chemo and Herceptin because of my HER2 positive status. The more I read about HER2 then happier I am I did opt in for chemo and Herceptin even though my tumor size was just below the "recommend treatment" line. I used cold caps to save my hair, and overall the whole thing was not that bad. If you're not HER2 positive you might be offered the oncotype test which helps determine whether chemo is necessary. Waiting and making these potentially life-altering decisions is agonizing, but once the unknowns have turned into knowns, and decisions are made, I promise you will feel much calmer.
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Deb, I don't know about timing. I hope for your sake they can get you in quickly. I got my diagnosis on 7/13 and had my surgery on 8/1 - pretty quick, but it seemed like forever. I believe it usually takes longer if you're having a mastectomy with reconstruction - more consults and coordination of schedules with the breast surgeon and plastic surgeon. Quite a few women have chemo before surgery, often to shrink large tumors. Hopefully you will like and trust the new surgeon.
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Deb, I didn't get my staging until after the lumpectomy. They need to check the sentinel lymph nodes even if the MRI shows no lymph node involvement. Also, they need to know the size of your invasive tumor, and if you have more than one tumor that enters into staging. At my facility the breast surgeons and oncologists meet to decide staging. It doesn't sound like you have an oncologist yet, or know where you will be going for treatment. Its not surprising to me that you havent been staged. Ask for copies of your biopsy and MRI reports, if you haven't already. Has anyone gone over the MRI results with you?
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Deb, I never heard of meeting with a radiologist before surgery. I would agree you definitely need a nurse navigator! If you don't have one assigned to you, could you call the surgeon's nurse and try to get things sorted? It sounds like you are getting very poor "customer" service, and you should take advantage of other options.
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Deb, just so sorry you are going through this alone. I did want to say that the more docs you can connect with before surgery the better. Frankly, you're going to feel like c#ap after surgery and will not want to go interviewing radiologists and plastic surgeons for awhile. Best to get that all settled before going under the knife. Also, the doctors really won't know anything until after surgery. Every test I had before surgery indicated no nodes were involved. Well, surprise, surprise, and not a pleasant one, after surgery.
I had a bad team initially also. Long story, but I switched to a wonderful surgeon after becoming disillusioned with the first one. I wasted 2 weeks getting the cancer out, but it was well worth it. Cancer really doesn't grow like weeds, as we newbies always imagine.
Best wishes sweetie! Holding your hand.
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Deb, my tumor that I could feel was above my nipple but further imaging showed it was growing out in a few places including behind my nipple, perhaps that it similar to what your surgeon says. I had to get a mastectomy, it was all over my boob, more than what i felt. Yes the lymph node involvement can be detected on scans but sometimes it doest. My scans were clear but after surgery they found 6 nodes with cancer.
Does your doc want you to meet with a radiologist or radiation oncologist?
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Deb, I am doing very well now. I have little fear of cancer anymore. Of course I know it could come back, but I also know I could get hit by a truck! It's kind of weird but after a time one sort of normalizes cancer. It is one of life's many risks, but we can't let it keep us from living until and unless it reoccurs, which for most of us, statistically, won't happen.
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Hi Deb - Sorry you have to be here. I had a preventive mx that found something in the final pathology. I went in for the sentinel node biopsy three weeks post mx. Since I'd had an MRI, a ductal excision, and the BMX the surgeon was 95 percent sure the node would be clear, but I still had to wait until the final pathology. (It was clear). My breast surgeon was key for my journey. I literally owe him my life. If you aren't comfortable with yours it is quite reasonable to find one who is a better fit for you.
I'm sorry you are alone. This place is a wonderful sisterhood, filled with ladies who are eager to help you in this scary process. Come here often for love and support. Hugs to you! -
I too know your feeling and want to encourage you to hold on and you and all of us are in my prayers, HOPE and Positive thinking with my Faith got me to become a 19 yr Survivor(Praise GOD). msphil(idc,stage 2, 3 nodes, L mast, chemo and rads and 5 yrs on Tamoxiifen)
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Hi Everyone - it has been a little while since on this post but thought I'd give up an update.
I had my surgery on the 7/22 & am now recovering. My surgeon called to say he got all the cancer out & he took out 5 lymph nodes & they were all clear! So I was very happy & relieved about that. As far as my anxiety - it has all been much better, I have hardly had any at all. I am relying each day on my Lord, he is walking with me each day & I know my life is in his hands.
The recovery part is a little slow for me, I am a doer so it is hard for me to sit here & relax now going on the 2nd week. But I know it is key to a full recovery, I seem to have 1 or 2 good days & then I'm tired out for a day. And other things come up like constipation from all the meds, oh my , I think that was almost the worst of anything!
Deb -I've read your posts , hang in there. Like the others said once you start with your surgery or treatment you will feel like you are doing something & that helps you focus more. And I have to say get the information you need to know, and then take a break from the internet for a few days. First I looked up everything and my anxiety was so high, now I only come on occasionally & have felt much better. Sometimes too much info., can send your mind reeling. I am so sorry your bf left you during this crucial time, do you have someone else who can stand up & help you? Call your local american cancer society, they can help you with transportation & hook you up with someone who has been through it & can guide you. Remember God loves you most of all & he will watch over you!!!!
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I'm so glad you posted - I was wondering how it went for you! I'm so glad your nodes were clear and that he got it all! Will you still be doing radiation or chemo?
I have surgery next Monday the 5th. -
Sophia - Well when I first went into the doctor he said surgery, then chemo. That was his take on things before we even had surgery - he said he wanted to make sure every little cell was gone. SO I meet with him next tues., so I'm sure he'll start going over things then.
Are you having a bmx? If you have any questions let me know. I know they say the drains are rough, but honestly I didn't have too hard a time with them & I got mine out at my first 1 week appointment which surprised me. I thought they would be in longer. The biggest problem I would advise you is to make sure you take the stool softeners!! I had a hard time with constiation and still am not right, due to all the pain meds they give you. I'd ask your doctor, but you should take 2 or 3 a day , cause trust me it really builds up.
Blessings to you!! You'll do great!!
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hi all, just been diagnosed w/invasive bc triple negative on July 22nd and had bilateral mastectomy on Aug. 1st. this wed. so i have been kept busy between the biospy, and mestectomy etc.. i'll have the sutures taken out. Friday i meet w/my new oncologist. i haven't been asking my doctors a lot of questions and i think its because it all happened so fast and i didn't want to know everything at once. but i do believe the more i know about this BC the better. its very troublesome to me because my eldest daughter died from BC, it will be a year tomorrow Aug. 13th... i still mourn her, and my youngest daughter i am very concerned about her too. so much on my mind. i am looking for support from others and to give support if i may, and learning as much as i can about this awful disease. thanks for being here.
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