August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Hi Cutie - Welcome!  Is that Taxol maybe instead of tamoxifen? 

    I am beginning on August 1st so I'm starting to eat lighter so that constipation isnt as much of an issue.  Also, I got my pre-meds but am nervous about taking the Decadron as this caused a lot of swelling.  Here is my list:

    -I have Emend 80 mg capsule and have been told to take it for 2 days beginning day of chemo. But wonder of that isn't this something that I should be taking the day before as some have been told to. this is for nausea.

     

    - I have Prochlorperazine Mal 10 mg tablet for use every 6 hours for nausea as needed.  Not sure why as I have the Emend?

     

    -I have Ondansetron HCL 8 mg tablets which I think is Zofran but does this cause swelling?  The doctor said that she would avoid medicines that caused me significant swelling in the past so I'll have to check with the nurse as this may have been one and this is a different nurse. 

     

    -I have Dexamethasone 4 mg tablets.  Is this Decadron?  This causes swelling doesn't it? Itis a steroid so swelling and overeating.

     

    Does anyone have any ideas? suggestions?

     

    V
  • Lily-f
    Lily-f Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2013

    Hi...I am BRCA@+  I had a hysterctomy in January and then a skin sparing bilateral mastectoy in April due to cancer.  They had indicated no chemo was required.  However I had a test done to determine the likelyhood of recurrance.  Based on those numbers it is now recommened that I have the Chemo.  3 AC and 3 TAX.   I'm going to ask on my next visit if this is standard.

    Thank you. 

  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited July 2013

    Hi Cutiecool, I am sorry that this is happening to you, but you have found the best place you can be for help and support, I can not speak to a lot of your questions as I too am starting chemo on 8/15. I share a lot of your fears, and the fear of the unknown I have found to be one of the worst. Threre are a lot of fantastic women here that will help you And I and a lot of others navigate this SCARY time in our lives. Have a nice vacation, try to relax some and keep us posted.



    Shary🌞

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2013

    Cutiekool, welcome!  I'm pretty freaked out too, but I find that if I read/research just a little at a time it gets easier to take.  Kindof like stretching out a muscle, lol.  The first time I read about chemo I could only read a few sentences, but then next time I could read those sentences plus a few more.  It will get easier...I hope :-)  Just breathe, do what you can, then get your brain off of the subject for a while.

    I'm not sure about moving around on staging - my staging was done entirely based on my pathology report from my surgery, so I'm assuming I'll go from 3A to cancer free, and then it's just a matter of staying cancer free.  But this is my first swing at bc so others on here might know more.

    Shary, I'm on eggshells for you, we're here no matter what the results <3

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2013

    Welcome Lily!  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Okay, I just want to say that I love how supportive we are of one another.  That isnt easy.  We are all sick and tired and coping with a lot and each of you has been a Godsend to me.

    By the way, you may have noticed, I type with lots of typos.  Dont worry, lots of education but none of it included typing.  ;  )

    Also, did I mention that i found water consumption and exercise to be my best friends during chemo? No, that's becasue although given this sound advice I was too tired and sick to take it.  Not this time.  Exercise will make you feel better... promise. And I am no skinny or athletic girl; I'm just motivated.  Also, water, water, water.  Get the "ish" out of you!

    Has anyone considered gel manciures to prevent nails falling off or going black? I had minimal problems compared to most last time but am concerned this time.  I've hear black nail polish helps but wonder if that is just becasue it will prevent sun damage to sensitive nails.

    V

  • peace777
    peace777 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2013

    Hi everyone.  I know today is July 30th but so close to August.  I had my first chemo today one of 4  every 3 weeks  t/c.  I see alot of you . fearful and I think its more so because of the unknown.  At least it was for me.  Each step I felt better.  As you read and talk and learn more you will be calmer.  Make a list of things you want to do and check them off  it kinda makes your head stop swimming so much.

    I love what hvv posted, so encourageing.  even if i had a year to live i would not want it to be in fear.  Although sometimes fear is hard to overcome we know you can do it.  When its over you will be so much stronger.

    I will keep you posted on my progress and maybe it will help someone.   The chemo treatment went very well. So far 6 hrs later i still feel fine  maybe a little fuzzy haha

    Stay strong you can do it!!

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2013

    Peace777, thank you so much!  I've been so anxious - hearing in real time how you're feeling actually helps a lot!

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    I have been posting in the July group. I was supposed to start my chemo on July 18th but it was delayed due to some additional testing. Just found out today that I am starting my chemo on August 1st. This is my second recurrence and my second go round with chemo but this is a much different chemo "cocktail" so I am a little nervous. I look forward to getting to know you all over the next months and hope that we can help each other as we go through chemo.

  • peace777
    peace777 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2013

    Jellyk  im so glad to help you feel more at ease i will keep you posted.

    babyruth  I also was posting in july group(still am a little)  My chemo started today so being on the cusp of the 2 months  Ill probably be here more often.  Sorry to hear you have to go through this again.  Im sure you bring a wealth of knowledge.  Look forward to getting to know you and welcome.

  • 2bluestars
    2bluestars Member Posts: 89
    edited July 2013

    Hi Ladies, been posting the July 2013 chemo thread, but I kinda fit here too, my second treatment with be Aug. 2.

    To the ladies that are startin on the first and 2nd, try not to worry.  It's a long boring day, but it's not painful or even scary really.  It's like a jacked up spa day.  You lay in a recliner with warm blankets, watch tv, read, play on your laptop or whatever.  After my first treatment, I felt great (thanks to the streriods) went out to lunch, every night I'd go to bed scared I was going to wake up and the chemo had kicked in and it would be just awful...I've never been sick. Just a little tired and constipation that was pretty bad, but know what to do now so that doesn't happen.  My mo said they can control 95% of side effects, so don't suffer with any, call your mo right away.

    Best of luck to all you ladies.  I'll be thinking of you.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited July 2013

    Hi everyone: wondering if I can join here rather than July, I did my first treatment of Taxotere/Cytoxan on July 22/13 and my 2nd will be on August 13th. For those starting I have 10 days of knowledge that may ease some minds and answer some questions. Day 1 was fine, I actually had a lot of energy I guess from the Dexamethasone that I started the day before Chemo, it's a steroid. They may warn you of having an allergic reaction if its the same type of Chemo as I had, the Dexamethasone is suppose to prevent the allergic reaction as well but I did have a reaction in which a tight feeling came across my chest and felt like I couldn't breath, I was getting oxygen as the nurse showed me and 3 nurses were doing whatever they did (wasn't paying attention) and they had me back to normal in under 10 minutes. I don't want to frighten anyone but assure you that if this happens that it does not last long and you will be back to normal quickly, if someone had told me that (I think a nurse might have but it didn't register) beforehand I probably wouldn't have panicked like I did. Day 2 was okay too, lots of energy, Day 3 I started to feel very tired, by Day 4 I was extremely fatigued but had a hard time sitting or laying for any length of time because I just felt like I had to keep moving, I've heard others say the same thing. I tried to read but that didn't work, couldn't concentrate enough to retain anything I read. As far as nausea and vomitting, none and none. Well maybe a little nausea but take a pill and was okay, I did have a little bit of heartburn and phoned to see if I could take one more pill a day for that and then I was fine. The major thing was fatigue, I have never been that fatigued in my life, even walking was probably 4 little steps to what would be considered a normal step when feeling good. Talking on the phone, my arm would get tired. I'm on Day 10 right now and my energy has returned and don't need as many pills for heartburn and nausea. Listen to me I sound like and old pro. lol I've heard that many woman would feel a little worse with each treatment and some worked through their treatments. I guess thats why they say everyone reacts differently. I hope everyone does well with their fist treatments. Oh yeah I also drank about 4 litres of water for the first 4 days and maybe thats what helped me, I'm still drinking a lot and cold drinks like smoothies felt really good on the mouth and throat, I had a bit of a sore throat. Also, i would dip my toothbrush in Baking Soda after I ate and brush my teeth with that and then rinse it out, I think that might have kept the mouth sores away. Sorry for such a long post but maybe it will help someone.

    Love, Rayna

  • Lily-f
    Lily-f Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2013

    Thanks Jelly !! 

  • Lily-f
    Lily-f Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2013

    Raynaj....the fatigue is really what concerns me.  I have to work during this process.  :(

    Is anyone else going to be working ? 

    Thanks

    Lily

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    Lily-f

    I did chemo in 2009 and I was able to continue working during treatment.  I have a desk job so it may be different if your job is one where you are on the go alot.  Also, everyone does react differently to chemo so it is hard to know until you get started with your plan.  I will be starting a new chemo treatment plan tomorrow and while I am optimistic that I will feel the same as I did four years ago, I really do not have any idea.  I plan on working but if I can not for some reason, I will not hesitate to take time off.  It really is about taking the time to heal yourself.  

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2013

    Thanks to everyone posting about treatments that have already started - I've been lurking on the July chemo thread because I wanted to hear about how things were going.  It's helped me to know a little about what to expect, and it's giving me more realistic expectations about whether I can work or not.  

    Lily, I'm not sure about work for me.  I'm blessed in that my kids and I moved in with my mom (big house, whole downstairs is its own apartment) so I have tons of support and the ability to hit the pause button on rent while I'm on short-term disability.  I had been assuming I would work through treatment, and will if I can, but I think if my MO approves it I'm going to take the first 2 cycles off so I know better what it will be like before I try and do a 45 minute bus commute and a full day of work or not.

    I was told that they can combat almost all of the SE except fatigue, since they "can't give you cocaine", lol.  I had stifling fatigue and nausea during both pregnancies though, and I still worked, so who knows, it may be fine :-)

  • peace777
    peace777 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2013

    babyruth said it well from what I read on the july chemo thread, you really dont know how you will feel day to day or treatment to treatment.  I work in a hospital so I took the time off.  right now i feel good enough to work but never know what later will bring.  As alot of women have said if you can take time off...its time to take of yourself.  I do have to talk myself out of feeling bad for not going to work but I have to realize its ok.

    welcome lily,  i had the oncotype test done (determines percent for recurrance) also came back high, hence chemo was added to the treatment plan but anything to not have it come back.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited July 2013

    Lily - f



    You may not feel the fatigue the way I did, I've talked to woman who worked all thru their treatment. I have an office job but would not have attempted doing my job for a few days because of not being able to concentrate. I'm Day 11 now and just did the payroll which was okay because I can concentrate again. You may need to take 3 - 5 days off each cycle. Or you may fly thru this with barely any side effects let us know when you start.

    Love, Rayna

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Hello all, had my port put in this mornin. Much harder than I expected due to less than crackerjack medical team. And now I hurt and tomorrow's the first day of chemo. This s a recurrence for me so am scared when last time I believed everyone that it won't come back, it's early, almost everyone is fine....



    Grateful for your good spirits here.



    V

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited July 2013

    I'm sorry you're going thru this. Does it hurt where the port was placed? Hopefully your chemo will go okay and you won't have many side effects. Try stay strong and have faith, you will get thru this.

    Love, Rayna

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Thank you Rayna! Sorry for the pity party. It's amazing how quickly good intentions evaporate. Feeling better now though still sore.

    V

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited August 2013

    HVV- I know exactly how you feel. This is my second recurrence and the darn thing just keeps coming back.For some reason I feel that I have failed and that I have let all my supporters down. Now I know that is not true but this crappy cancer keeps making me think crazy things. HVV- You can beat this, you have done it before! I know you are a strong woman. I hope your port feels better soon. It took about a week for mine to ease up.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Thank you Ruth! I know you understand when I say chemo, surgeries, and radiation No Big Deal! Been there, done that, got the scarf. Just let me live! V

  • hockeymommy
    hockeymommy Member Posts: 77
    edited August 2013

    hi ladies...I am joining the August club! I was originally suppose to start on Aug 6 but my incision became infected and decided to open up. ..ugh... so now I am ready to go on Aug 13.. I had my port put in on Thursday and I am ready to rock! I think the most terrifying thing is not having the energy to keep up with my husband and four kids. I have been reading tons of articles and I think I am going mad. ...I will be having 4/ac every two weeks followed by 4/t every two weeks. ....I am a stage 2 grade 3..

  • CruiserMay
    CruiserMay Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2013

    Rayna- thanks for sharing ur story. Glad to read that you're doing ok.



    Lily- I'll be working, but I have a wonderful boss who is very accommodating....so I will plan to be remote and whenever I feel up to it...I will then go in to the office



    HVV- sorry to hear you are sore from the port but it should be better shortly. I had my surgery on 7/22 and now it feels ok, but was sore the first few nights when trying to sleep. I call my bump "Al" as it feels like an alien just below my shoulder.



    If anyone needs a laugh, I will try to accommodate...

    Tomorrow is my first treatment, so I guess I needed this...here goes-

    I was supposed to have my wig fitting tonight, so I arranged for my hubby and friend to meet me there. We arrive and they say the spa is closed, and I mention that I had an appt at 6p. Turns out the girl called in sick that day and I didn't get the message of the cancellation. Later learned they called my house and left the MSG there.



    So, we decide to go out for dinner. The waitress knocks my glass over and the full glass of tea falls right in my lap. I laugh uncontrollably because otherwise we would have to cry, right? Then, she comes back later and looks frazzled again...she lost our order ticket...probably got soaked while performing cleanup of the wet table. We laugh again. If I wasn't stressed, I may have gotten irritated but we laughed it off and tried to make the waitress feel better.



    Both places provided some "perks" to make up for the shortfalls, but I must say...I was slightly concerned about driving home given my recent luck. Lol



    Anyway, the point is things wont always be rosy, but let's try to get a laugh in even if it might be at our own expense. We're going to win this battle yet!



    Hugs to you all! Let's all hope for minimal to no nausea.

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2013

    I loved your post. Very informative . I went for mt chemo teach today.Wow lots of information. I work in the fitness field, and have been really slacking. FEAR is paralyzingly me. I just want to get through this, but not go through this, if ya know what I mean.... Ugh

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2013

    Yes it is taxol. Getting lots of anti Nausea meds. Steroids. Hubby and I are going to Washington for my step daughters wedding. Aug 10. So I will start chemo the 19 th. I'm freaked to start it. Anyone have advice on hair loss? I have mid length hair. Should I cut it after or before the first treatment? Any one have to take anxiety meds too? I feel like I. Losing my mind. Not only can't I think straight, I can't talk straight....ughhhh

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    HVV: Never apologize for a pity party, for so many of us this is the safe place to go ahead and cry and rant and scream and feel sorry for ourselves and no one judges us because we have all been there. I think that is why these forums are so helpful to us and it also lets us know that we are not alone and that helps, not that I want any of you to have cancer because it really, really, really, really, SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

    Keep us informed as to how the chemo goes will say a prayer for you and all of the others going thru this hell.

    Love, Rayna

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Cutiekool:

    I was terrified to start chemo and am still a little worried about my second one on Aug. 13. But I think as I started reading what others had been through really helped take some anxiety away, I asked everyone what I needed to know for the first treatment and appreciated their imput. I wore comfy clothes, they say to take along a couple small ice packs if you have any otherwise the nurse should have some, you will wrap them around your hands and feet while they are administering the chemo, it is suppose to slow the blood in your hands and feet and prevent neuropathy from happening, I have since bought some for home and each day use them myself. Take along a book, Ipad, music, earbuds, some favorite cookies or crackers, crosswords. I didn't use any of it for the first treatment there just seemed like a lot going on around me and then when I had the reaction they gave me a big dose of Benadryl and that made me really sleepy so I kept dozing off. I think for the rest of the treatments I will use some of that stuff, it goes by actually quite quickly about 3 hours.

    I had long hair and a week ago I put my head upside down and combed it into a ponytail on the top (not crown) of my head then checked to see if it was combed smoothly then cut it off at the ponytail, (i cut off over a foot of hair). I had to touch it up a bit and had my husband straighten out the back but it turned out quite amazing, all layered. I wanted to be in control of losing my hair and not the cancer. They say your head will start to tingle a few days before it falls out so I'm just waiting for that feeling and then I will shave my own head (again I get to be in control). I think the shaving will be pretty traumatic and I'm sure I will cry, we don't look sick until our hair falls out and we lose our natural skin glow because we get all pale. I think that is a hard part. Oh, the reason I cut my own hair and didn't go to a stylist is because we were camping and I couldn't make appointment for before chemo started. Hope this helps. Yes, I did take some Ativan before chemo and the nurse gave me some more when I got there, ask they will give you what ever you need to make this as bearable as possible. I also know what you mean about wanting to start and not wanting to start. I think when it gets close we just want to get on with it. You'll do great, we all will kick this cancers ASS!!!

    Love, Rayna

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Cruiser:

    Thanks for sharing your story, it made me smile and laugh, something we all need more of.

    Love, Rayna

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