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  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    I have been perusing this message board for a few days and felt like tonight was the night to reach out. I am having excision surgery on Monday on grade 2-3 DCIS measuring 1.8-2.0. BS had said that I should "wrap my head around having radiation." I can't wrap my head around any of this. Tonight I had to tell my 19 year old son that I was having surgery to remove breast cancer cells. I'm scared to death. How do I help him feel better?

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited July 2013

    Hi Teachersbc123,

    We're so sorry you have to be here, but very glad you found us. You'll find BCO a very supportive and informative resource.

    There's sure to be someone along soon who will give you some great personal advice, but in the meantime, you may find helpful advice for talking with your son on the main Breastcancer.org site's page on Talking to Older Children and Teens.

    We hope this helps -- best of luck and let us know how the surgery goes on Monday!

    --The Mods

  • danawp
    danawp Member Posts: 99
    edited July 2013

    I was diagnosed in Feb with DCIS & had surgery in April.  It is terrifying.  I was scared to death a lot at first.  Then you read more and figure out your treatment & start making plans, and the numbness & fear gets better.  The fear will come and go, but it will be better than right now.  The initial shock is the worst.  

    Just be as positive as you can with your son.  I gave my kids facts and kept it honest but positive.  "The doctors found this very early...  They are sure this will be fine....  We are using the best doctors in the area, and they have great ways of knowing that everything will be ok..."  I still have times when I am terrified, but nothing like in the beginning.   And there is GREAT info on this site.  Good luck with everything.   I know others will post some very helpful comments for you.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    Thank you for your quick reply. After reading your diagnosis and surgery details, I feel stupid for worrying. I was ok when it affected me, but it's a different story when it affects my child. We exert so much energy trying to protect them. It is a new experience telling him something like this.

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited July 2013

    Teachersbc, this is an awful time for everyone who gets this Dx and their families too. Don't be hard on yourself. We all know just how you are feeling, we have all felt the fear!

    I printed out the details about DCIS from this site, that were researched by Beesie, one of our members. I gave these to my family and friends, so they would have all the correct information about this particular Dx.

    You are at the worst part right now, fear of the unknown is a brutal thing. It really does get better once you know exactly what is happening. I know what you mean about not wanting it to affect your child.

    You will do fine, and I wish you all the best. Let us know how you are doing! 

  • Gussie92
    Gussie92 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2013

    TeachersBC123 - I completely understand how you are feeling. I am also newly diagnosed and had the same situation - how to tell our 13 year old and 17 year old.

    We sat them down together and presented it as a positive -- this is the reason it is important to get mammograms to catch things early and deal with it. Both kids accepted it, but later my 17 year old revealed that the "C" word was eating away at him. At that point - I just let him ask me any questions that were on his mind. I think he's doing better with it now, but not completely sure.

    Again, I'm new at this too. So if you find out something that works better, would love to hear from you about it.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    Thank you for your words of encouragement. As Monday gets closer, my anxiety level is increasing. And then I will have to wait for that pathology report. This is not a good situation for a control freak like myself. This site is such a wonderful resource. A place to vent as well as learn. Thank you to all who contribute.

  • SJW1
    SJW1 Member Posts: 244
    edited July 2013

    TeachersBC123,

    Even though you have probably had your talk with your son already, it might help to tell him that DCIS is really not like what most people think of when you mention cancer. Although it is classified as stage 0 breast cancer, doctors are debating if they should call it something different, because it is non-invasive. This means that it is not biologically capable of leaving the milk duct, let alone entering your breast and certainly not the rest of your body.

    Chemo is never used and the survival rate is almost 100 percent. Because of this you can take your time weighing the benefits and risks of any treatment options your doctor recommends. I waited for 6 months to have surgery.

    No matter what happens on Monday, I would strongly recommend you get a 2nd pathology opinion. When I was diagnosed in 2007, I was told I would need a mastectomy until I consulted with Dr. Michael Lagios, a world renowned DCIS expert and pathologist. Pathologists disagree up to 20 percent of the time and he disagreed with my local pathologist.

    After my lumpcetomy, he also used the Van Nuys Prognostic Index to calculate my risk of recurrence without radiation. Since my risk without radiation was only 4 percent, I decided not to have it, as the typical 50 percent risk reduction would have been only 2 percent for me. Since you can only have radiation once, I opted to save it for later, in case I ever got invasive breast cancer.

    Hope this helps ease your mind a little. If you would like to read more of my story, please go to: http://dciswithoutrads.com/

    Also please feel free to send me a private message anytime.

    Best,

    Sandie

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2013

    How I described it to my kids (aged 9 and 12 at the time) when I thought it was "just" DCIS, before I found out there was an invasive component was "this is not the kind of cancer that can kill you, but it can turn into that kind so we need to treat it now before it can do that".   They found that immensely reassuring.   I did not tell them about the invasive component when I found out about it as it didn't change the treatment plan and would only worry them unnecessarily.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    Thank you Sandie and Annette47. The statistical numbers have bothered me from the beginning. In April, I was called back for more images after my yearly mammo. The radiologist told me that I had calcifications that were not on the previous year's mammo but since I did not have a strong family history (I have no known family history) that I should come back on six months. That didn't sit well with me do I questioned my gyn. She asked if I wanted to see a breast specialist and I said yes. After the first meeting with the BS, she leaned toward biopsy but assured me that there was only a 2% chance of it being "anything." Well maybe I should play the lottery because I'm beating odds all over the place. I don't feel assured that the numbers mean anything.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    I feel like my world is consumed by this. And it sucks!

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    I would also appreciate info about radiation and its effects. As of now, the plan is 5-6 weeks of daily radiation. I'm a teacher in an inner city school. I spend 9-10 hours a day working. How will I have time for radiation? I just accepted a new position at a new school and need to reestablish my self with colleagues, students, and families. I'm overwhelmed and I'm only at the beginning of this potentially long process.

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited July 2013

    Hi Teachers,  find out if you can do the "Canadian protocol" (used by my facility--Memorial Sloan Kettering and many other facilities) for early stage bc.  It is a higher dose, but given over fewer days.  It is basically 25 days of a regular dose reduced to 16 days at the higher dose.  I was tired afterward for about a month.  There was a teacher doing it at around the same time I was.  She arranged to have her first period be the "prep" period, so she came a little late to school each day.  Her treatment course was one week longer than mine because she had a boost (extra treatment) to one area because of close margins (she also had DCIS).  It worked out fine.  Most facilities have early morning (7:00 am) and late day appointments, so you might not even need to adjust your work schedule, except for the "marking" and staging days, prior to treatment, when they might have you come in midday. The teacher also did not find that she was tired, but she's around 15 years younger than me.  I exercised throughout the treatment, and just modified my exercise during those two very tiring weeks post treatment.  I had no lingering skin problems.  Everyone is different in the treatments they receive and how they react to them.  There are radiation threads you can follow here on bc.org, to get support from fellow "travelers" as they go through the same treatment.  Wishing you the best on all of the treatment.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel.  You gotta trust me on that.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2013

    My lumpectomy was completed today, and I feel so much better. The anticipation was definitely worse than the reality. The worst part was the needle localization. Because my DCIS was found close the chest wall, trying to get the "lead wire" in the right place was no picnic! But it's done and I'm feeling good tonight! Now the wait for the path report. I feel good about it and thinking good thoughts. And I'm usually a glass is

    half empty girl.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited July 2013

    Congrats on being done with the surgery.  I know what you went through with the wire localization too.  When I had it done they had to try over and over and over again because they couldn't get the wire to the right spot. I was in there with my breast squeezed in the mammo machine, trying to hold perfectly still, for well over an hour.

    Hoping for no surprises (or only good ones!) from the pathology report.

  • Blogger
    Blogger Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2013

    I was diagnosed with DCIS and my tumor was almost 8 cc's. I had a lumpectomy first but had to have a BMX. Even with all of this I did NOT have to have chemo or radiation. So, don't worry until the pathologist report comes back. Maybe you will be lucky like me and no rads will be necessary. I will pray for you.



    Suzanne

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited August 2013

    Maybe you ladies can clear something up for me. Although all margins were clear (except back against the chest wall because BS couldn't go any further), I'm seeing RO on Thursday. So...if margins are clear, why do I need radiation? Just in case?

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2013

    Yup, just in case.  DCIS cells have this habit of sometimes "skipping" within the milk ducts, so even with clear margins, it's possible that a few rogue cells remain. Those rogue cells can develop into a recurrence if they are not killed off.  How great your risk is that there might be a few remnants left depends on the specifics of your pathology - the size and grade of your DCIS, whether there was a single area vs. more than one, the size of the margins, etc..  For some women - for example someone with a tiny area of grade 1 DCIS and very wide margins - the risk might be quite low and it might be possible to skip rads without increasing the recurrence risk by much.  But for other women - for example, someone with more than one focus of high grade DCIS and clear but narrow margins - the risk will be higher and rads is able to cut the recurrence risk by about 50%. Most women who have a lumpectomy for DCIS do end up having rads.

  • Teachersbc123
    Teachersbc123 Member Posts: 34
    edited August 2013

    Thank you Bessie! Your knowledge base is amazing! I'm having fantasies that I'm going to go to RO and he'll say rads not necessary. Just starting to feel myself after lumpectomy. I just want to put the whole thing behind me.

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