Chemo May 2013

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  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    Carla... They don't do anything to fix it.. I thought they could, you know, push it back in... but they don't. They just said that if it comes out another 3.5 cm over the course of time that I need it, they'll call the Dr. and maybe do an xray to see where the tip is. If it's come out too far, they'll want to remove it and give me another one. I'm hoping to make it to at least my last infusion (4 more dressing changes).. and if I have to get a poke here or there for blood tests, I'll be okay with it. I don't want to spend the $ on another picc line insertion when I'm near the finish line....

    What's funny is the nurse yesterday said that men are different in that the picc line wants to pull itself into the body instead of push it's way out like in women. I found that interesting.

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    Lorrie-hmm. Very interesting. I'll have to add that one to how men and women are different.



    Carla

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Lorrie, the next time you talk about centimeters I hope it is in regards to the new grand baby and NOT your picc line coming out!



    Carla, I meet with my oncologist August 8...I hope I can remember to ask about hair re growth and when it should start. I think I want to do minoxidil. I will need to explore the boards to see if I can learn anything as my onc doesn't always seem to have the answers (or she spouts what she learned in school). Thanks for the kind words about mom and evil sis. I need to be able to step back and breathe, I am just a sensitive person under my tough exterior. I don't think chemo helped me emotionally and thinking of my dad definitely doesn't help! Breathe, breathe, breathe.... :)



    Pat

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    430 a.m. awake since 3. Damn hot flashes and steroids before chemo!



    This is next to last chemo. Must say fatigue has hit hard with the taxol. Need nap every afternoon just to have energy to get thru the evening hours. Am really looking forward to 4 week break between chemo and rads.



    Patty let us know what you find out about minoxidil. My friend has had good results with biotin but I will try anything to get my hair back. Nurses seem to know more about that stuff so I will ask them today.



    Lisa

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2013

    IPC. Good luck.today...you are near the finish line.



    Does anyone know if they usually remove the port before or after radiation? I am curious how that experience will be. Also, did any of your MOs talk about a bone density test before hormone therapy? I read that some docs have this done. I think I would like one as my mom has weak bones and I think hormone therapy can affect bone density.



    Take care all.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Elkatho just asked nurse....port usually stays in for rads. Last chemo is on August 8th will have bloodwork on 8/15 and port flush on 9/15.



    Lisa

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2013

    Yesterday was my second Taxol. First taxol went smooth as a dream. Feel so lucky about that. I think part of the reason was I didn't need neulasta last time, because WBC was still unbelievably high. Doing neulasta again today though, since I was back to 3.5 WBC. I guess it'll be a good test to see what was causing most of the SEs during the A/C - the A/C itself, or neulasta. Ah well. At least it keeps us healthy, despite the pain and aches.

    Got my BRCA results back in. Mostly good, but I'm one of the few that has the "variant of unknown significance" result. So, basically, I'm mutated, but it's in a way they don't know anything about. With further research they may tell me in a year or 5 or 10 years that my mutation does increase risk of future cancers, or it may mean nothing. Gotta love useless yet stressful information. Sigh.

    I hope everyone has a good rest of the week, and relaxing and restful weekends. I too was up this morning at 1:30a, and gave up and got out of bed at 4:30a. Gotta love all those steroids...can't wait for a full 2 days for potential mid-day naps.

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited July 2013

    I had my last chemo today, yay! Not without complications but not too bad. Just issues with getting my blood drawn from my port. Eventually it all worked out. Here is to few side effects. I hope everyone has a great weekend. If the picture uploaded ok you can see me riniging the bell as I left today.

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2013

    Teresa...a BIG YIPPEE YAY!!! Congrats to you. Hoping minimal Sid effects!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Yay Theresa! Great picture. Here's to few side effects!!

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    Yay Theresa!!!



    How do I see the pic on my iPad?

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    Never mind... I got it.... Yay! We don't have a bell, but I'll go running out after my last one yelling.. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! If for no other reason than to get everyone out of my way so I can sprint out of there & never look back at the "chemo lounge" again!



    Went to our fav Friday night dinner place tonight and noticed this woman staring me down... Even after I looked at her and thought shed turn away..... I felt like saying "don't worry, I'm not contagious"...



    Now that I've had time to stew.... I should have bumped into her and hurriedly pulled out hand sanitizer and said "oh no! Oh dear! Here! Hurry up and use this..... I'm sure you'll be fine" and walked away. Haha

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Oh how I hate taxol! Pain pain pain. Thank goodness only one more to go.



    Lisa

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited July 2013

    How long does the taxol pain last? I got my first treatment on Tuesday. felt fine on Wednesday. Began to be achey on Thursday. Got worse on Friday. Today is a little better and all I've been doing is sleeping! I told hubby it feels like lobsters are pinching me in all my joints. This stinks!

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    Hello Everyone I have not posted in a while. Congrats to everyone finished and getting near the finish line. I had my last TC on july 9 and I still feel crappy...tired.... anyone else still tired after almost three weeks? I also still have wicked bad hearburn. Called the nurse twice...tired zantac, did not work, now on pepcid AC, works al little.....aargh when does this end?

    itiswhatitis: if it makes you feel any better, I got stared at like I had three heads on the beach today....cancer patient on the beach!

    I hope everyone on the Taxol feels better soon..this gift keeps on giving!

  • MariaNL
    MariaNL Member Posts: 118
    edited July 2013

    I have had 2 Taxol treatments and man not digging it at all, my hands are so numb and tingly, being in the heat makes me dizzy, anyone else having senseitivity to heat?

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    AryaS I get taxol on Thursday and Saturday and Sunday are horrible. By Monday pain has gone but feel very weak. Tuesday beck to normal.



    Maria I have not been able to tolerate heat since chemo began. Am racking up quite the electric bill this summer? Are you taking anything for numbness? B6 b12 and alpha lipoic acid works for me.



    Cant wait for chemo to end!



    Lisa

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited July 2013

    Thanks for the info, Lisa, I was worried the pinchy stings were going to go on forever! It's getting better already! Hang in there everyone, we are almost through this part, right?

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited July 2013

    Hey Ladies,

    Teresa - YAY for finishing Chemo!  WOOHOO!!!  The nurse had trouble getting blood from my port last Tuesday too - I thought "Oh gosh, here we go"  She ended up laying me down and having me cough and then it came out.  Oh, and then her foot got caught in the IV tubing and she almost ripped the thing out of my chest anyway!!!

    So I've been experiencing the Taxol Tiredness.  On Thursday, I went to work at 7:30am, and was SO exhausted I could barely keep my eyes open.  I asked my husband to drop me off a Latte from starbucks and that didn't help at all so I left at 11:30am, came home and went right to bed and pretty much slept til the next day.  And last night I just slept a solid 11 hours.  I am not really experiencing the bone/joint pain but I do have the numbness/tingling and nausea has returned which is NOT fun.  I'm also feeling like I"m fighting depression - I'm having a hard time staying cheerful, I guess when you feel like vomiting 24/7 it's hard to be happy.  This Tuesday is my last Taxol but I can't really feel great about it til the week passes and the side effects wane.....

    My port will be staying in because I"ll still be heading to the "chemo lounge" for my tri-weekly hercepten infusions!  My hair is growing really sparsly on my head!!  I found some "hair excellerator" in the bargin section of Walgreens so I bought it - it doesn't have any chemicals in it - I thought I would see if it would help.  I read on here that some women don't regrow their hair til they're done with Hercepten.  I hope that's not me :(:(   I guess the NICEST thing will be that after my chemo on Tuesday, I potentially don't see another doctor til my appointment with my PS at the end of August!  That will be a nice break...

    My 6 year old starts 1st grade tomorrow (we're on a Year Round school schedule here in North Carolina).  We need to go "back to school" shopping today....

    Lets see what we can find out about growing back our hair ladies!!!!!

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2013

    Congrats to everyone who has now finished chemo! I am thinking of that oldies tune "Ring my bell..."

    Sorry to hear about everyone's Taxol pains. I think mine are from the neulasta - they were back this time. I do have a little bit of numbness in the fingertips, but I am trying to convince myself it's from playing the cello (I haven't played in a while, and played a few times a few weeks ago - started up the callouses again). Chemo nurse said if I start having trouble buttoning my pants, that I should call them, and they may lower the dose to avoid permanent neuropathy.

    Talking about buttoning my pants - I've definitely gained weight. In fact, the nurse at the oncologists said hello by saying "you've gained weight" with a smile on her face. Luckily we have a good rapport, and I could tease along with her. But it's disappointing.

    I too am getting slightly depressed - chemo is "almost over" but now I'm reminded how there is still such a long haul ahead - surgery/radiation/hormonal treatments, etc. Friday was the first day I just mentally couldn't deal with working, so I left early. Feeling in a better mood today.

    Blood results this past time showed increased liver levels - I read it's pretty common with Taxol. They are taking the CBC again this week to be extra cautious. Hoping I will keep calm about the whole thing; trying not to get worked up over these little road bumps.

    Best to everyone for a good Sunday and ok start to the work week.

  • IWKCB
    IWKCB Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2013

    Hi ladies. I haven't been here in a few weeks. Reading through posts now trying to catch up on how everyone is doing. I finished my 4th AC. Thank goodness as feeling so bad was really throwing me into a depression. Taxol/herceptin is treating me better though the joint/bone pain is not fun but at least im clear headed and can drive/work. What is best to take for the joint pain? Tylenol, ibuprofen, Aleve? Is claritin good for that as well or is that just for neulasta? How long does the pain typically last? I'm getting 12 weekly treatments.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    I'm feeling pretty yucky still.... I go in for #5 on Thursday... & if I hear another co-worker or kids or sweetie say "but, this is suppose to be your good week" I'm gonna scream!



    The pain isn't horrible... Just achy and annoying.... Im sick and tired of nit being myself! Im spending most of the weekend in bed crying and feeling sorry for myself. PATHETIC, I know, but can't help it. Bugged out of going to the races last night with my sis and BIL. I sent my sweetie on without me. Cancelled our Sunday dinner tonight.... I can't muster up even ordering out and entertaining the family for the evening.... I just want everyone to leave me alone... I'm trying to dig up some energy, but it's just not there to find...



    I hope everyone else is doing well this weekend....



    Lorrie

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    Itiswhatitis: I have the same feelings as you after #4 of TC, you are not alone! I am also still pretty tired on "my good week" I have to admit I am also getting a little depressed about not feeling well for so long! Its been since January for me. I said the exact words you said to my physical therapist this week. I just want to be left alone! I am sending you hugs, you are a better woman than me, I dont think I am brave enough to do #5 like you. I think our feeling at this point are pretty normal, although sucky! Hang in there, I will be thinking about you on Thursday!

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    Thanks gully!

    Thank you for not making me feel alone!

    I can't explain it! I'm a tough bird, but this has really broken me..... I have 2 more treatments,,, at this point, I'm not sure if the meds are killing me or my sanity.... I've NEVER been so negative...... This sucks!



    Thank you for posting ..... Cuz I really feel so alone!

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    I'm actually thinkin of skipping rads..... I don't know If I can do it.... I'm such a freekin weekling... And I use to be a strong woman... I'm just soooooooooo done already

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Lorrie,

    Sorry to hear that. I have my "Pity Party in Progress" sign, I can overnight it to you!



    Though it really isn't a pity party, it sounds more like a "fed up of having no energy" thing.

    Wsh there was something I could do to make it better.



    Tell the "thought it was your good week" people that the effects are CUMLATIVE...so perhaps at this point that is what is happening. Though I suspect it could be low red blood cells? Or low .vitamin D? Let your MO know how tired you are they can run the vitamin D test if they don't normally.

    I was low on vitamin D and my onc had me buy over the counter supplements.

    My red levels were very low and I wasn't given anything, that can affect energy levels too.



    Hope you get that energy back soon. Hugs!!!

    Pat

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    I'm so done...".....I have to do 2 more.......

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    LJaeger-probably is the neulasta. Huge difference in the way I feel when I do or don't take it. Huge..

    LJaeger and Lorrie-I think and hope when chemo is completed and am given a month to recoup before radiation, that the strength for the fight will return. If I need a couple more weeks than suggested, then so be it. What's a couple of weeks in the scheme of things. I really do try not to think about what's ahead of me. It is too much. One thing at a time. Sometimes that's too much too.

    To those that are fatigued, I sure hope energy starts filling your body.

    Teresa congratulations. Hope your S.E. are minimal on your last

    chemo.



    Carla

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Pity party here too. Still achy never got out of bed all weekend. Legs feel like they wont hold me up. No work today. Good thing cuz don't think I would make it! Pain meds did not even touch the pain from taxol.



    This is most negative I have felt since beginning of this trek....doesn't feel like journey to me! Feel like I climb up one mountain only to be confronted with another. Surgery chemo and then rads...I am tired of climbing!



    Lisa

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited July 2013

    Sorry to hear everyone is so down right now.  I am with you on that one.  Done with chemo (not the SE's) but there is still so much on my mind.  I have three Dr's appointments in the next week and after talking to them I will make the decision on radiation therapy.  

    We have to look forward to the day when we will have all of this behind us.  I saw someone at chemo on Thursday that had just recently finished radiation therapy.  She had really thick short hair, it was adorable.  When she had no hair her husband did a really cool henna tattoo on her head.  So I know she lost it all but she has it back, yay!  

    I will be on the hormone therapy for five years, the one that starts with a T?  Tamoxifen?  I don't know....I kind of have the chemo brain thing going on today.  I haven't asked my Dr what the side effects are for that but I have seen some of you talking about it on here a while ago.  Not looking forward to that either, but it is another step that has to be taken.

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