Starting Chemo July 2013
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That's good to know, Lynn -thanks! I'm terrified of nausea after the horrible time I had twice with Vicodin after my surgery and I'm extremely prone to motion sickness (although I've been told that motion sickness tendencies isn't a predictor of chemo nausea). I've been okay still today and have one more Decadron tonight, but I think I'll take the Zofran just in case starting tomorrow AM when the steroids are done.
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Hi all,head shaved,my sister says i look badass,the wig feels really weird but i quess i'll get used to it. My hubby says it looks like Nicole Kidman in The Paperboy,could be worse. Have i said this sucks enough? Back is killing me from neulasta shot on wednesday but as stupid as this sounds,i'd rather deal with that than looking like an older,not as pretty gi jane. It's not all bad though,my stepson(10)when i walked out of the hair salon with the wig he said,it looks the same to me. Thank God our children can be such mood lifters. hugs Angela
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It's 4:30 in the morning, beginning of day 6 for me. I have been following all of you and thinking of each of you but just no energy to write. Despite the Claritin I have been hit hard by the bone pain. I've never experienced this type of pain before and just couldn't get on top of it. Finally called the nurse line and it took them 4 hours to get back to me. Can't understand why on the day of my infusion they kept saying to call with any problems but then they have such a poor response time when I'm really in pain. They decided to have me take the Vicodin that I had left from surgery. That gives me about 2 hours of relief before it's time for the next one. Totally strung out and shaky. I am going to be sure that we have a better plan in place before the next shot. It's funny how it doesn't bother some people at all. The good thing is that I can definitely tell it's working and I haven't had to go to the hospital like some of you.
Reading about all your hair decisions and trying to decide what to do. I probably have another week but I'm dreading the trauma and wonder why I'm delaying the inevitable. I hate being down in the dumps like this and hope it's just a few more days of discomfort. Feel like a whiny baby knowing so many of you have much greater challenges than I do. Maybe if I could just get some sleep . . . -
Jeri,
Sorry you have been hit hard with the bone pain.
Was it 24 hour Claritan you took? Started it on the day of the Neulasta shot and continued each day?
I had heard someone was told to start it two days before and continue ((this was after having bone pain the first go around using the above method)
There was another person that took Claritan in conjunction with Aleve (check if you are allowed Aleve) and that worked for her.
At my doctors they had told me if I had bad bone pain from Neulasta they would reduce the amount they gave me by half. You MUST be aware if that is their plan and remind the nurse, as the "reduction of the shot" is giving you half of what is already in the pre filled needle.
When I would go for my shot the nurse told me I am her only patient that can tolerate the full shot, but I was also their only patient to take Claritan 24 hour!
In regards to hair, I had cut mine to a pixie length (from shoulder length) and when it started to fall out cut it to what I would call a short cut (mans length). I still have not lost it all, but it sure has thinned A LOT. I wear the buffs www.buffusa.com and love them. My hair seems to be growing fast ...what hair I have!....and it actually will stick out below the back of the head covering, as well as near the ears.
There are a few people that were disappointed they cut their hair super short (stubble type cut) as they said it was difficult to sleep , the stubble hurt, they also said it bothered them when wearing a wig.
The head thing is such a personal choice, no right or wrong answer for sure!
I look in the mirror and see an "old lady" looking back wheni am without a head covering. I was shocked wearing my buffs the first few times I looked in the mirror...especially when I had my daughter clothes shopping, but I was shocked because I felt so normal shopping and forgot I was wearing the buff! I guess I am trying to say we adjust.
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Awe jeri,ive been really lucky with the neulasta shot,claritin and advil helped both times. It awful to have to go through pain,nausia,and emotional trauma all at the same time. Its almost too much at times. We are all in this together,all of us suffering in some way,my thoughts r with u with hope the pain will get better. Ang
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Hugs Jerigrace! I'm so sorry you're having such pain. I hope you feel better soon.
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Hello everyone. I haven't been on for several days and had some catching up to do. I was "lucky" to get a UTI just as I was recovering from chemo 2 SE, so I am on antibiotics. So something else to watch out for.
JeriGrace, hang in there. I had bone pain from my first Neulasta shot but not the second. I take Claritan every day anyway for allergies, so for me that was not the difference. So I think there's hope that this will not give you such pain every time. Now unfortunately, I do have muscle pain really bad from the chemo, tightness all throughout including my jaw. And plenty of other chemo miseries!
I am also getting used to being hairless. I wear a ball cap outside in my yard or walking but I do wear my wig going to the store or out and will definitely want it for work. I am still struggling a bit with my wig and have to get it cut when my hairdresser gets back from vacation. I think the layers are too long for my small face. Anyway I hate the GI Jane/alien look when I see myself in the mirror but most of the time I forget about it. Angela it was not that easy to find something that matches my color either, which is kind of light brown with auburn and gold. All the wigs are dark brown or too much blond if they are highlighted.
I feel I am officially half way through since next week is treatment 3. I really wanted to quit after the first chemo, but perhaps I can soldier on now. We're all rowing the same boat.
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Hello All,
I've started an August chemo page for those beginning chemo nextThursday or afterward. It is called:
August 2013 Chemo Sisters
Please feel free to join us.
V
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How do I get there? I just got here today.
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Hi Maziel,
Just use the search function and put in the phrase: August 2012 Chemo Sisters
See you soon!
V
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Thanks to all of you for the encouragement. Those middle-of-the-night blues are especially deadly. The Vicodin has taken the edge off so I am taking it every four hours today and then I'll see how tomorrow feels. I've had a headache since Tuesday which makes me a little crabby.
it seems like I can't distinguish the SE very well. Like is the headache from the joint pain in my jaw or something else, is the numbness in my legs related to the bone pain or neuropathy. It's hard when everything hurts to really know what's going on.
I am taking the Claritin 24 but I didn't start until the day of the shot. Maybe next time I'll start one day sooner. I also read that some people only experience the bone pain during the first round so maybe it won't be like this next time. I don't want discourage anyone from taking the Neulasta or scare you about it. If it is helping keep the WBC up and saving hospital visits then I am fine with taking it. Just be sure you and your doctor have a good plan if you do experience the bone and joint pain.
I appreciate hearing how it's going for those of you in round 2. So glad you can check one more off and know that you are that much closer to the end of this part. Welcome August Chemo Sisters who are following this thread. Hope our experiences can help you somehow.
As TwoHobbies says, "Soldier on!" -
Well I got my head shaved today. Not loving it, but not crying about it either, did that a couple of days ago. My son, hubby, our friends (husband and wife) shaved their heads with me. I was so surprised and humbled by her (and his/theirs) show of love and friendship. They were just in the neighborhood and came by while the shaving was underway.
Hope everyone is having a wonderful, se free Saturday. :-)
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I'm glad you've gotten the edge of your bone pain, JeriGrace. That sounds terrible. My doctor gave me some dilaudid just in case and I already take Claritin daily for allergies, so I'm crossing my fingers.
I'm day 3 now and SEs are definitely here, starting with a bit of a sore throat. I've been trying to keep busy fighting fatigue all day, hydrating as much as possible and my mouth feels fuzzy. Now it's all really starting to feel real.
It's so nice to read of the support of loved ones shaving their heads right along. I'm sure my boyfriend would do the same thing but he doesn't have much to remove to start with. We went the other way and he tried my wig on. It was pretty amusing to actually see him with hair. I'll chop mine next Sunday probably, but he still wants me to go one day with a mohawk.
I hope you Firecrackers can enjoy some of the weekend at least. Good luck to the August chemo sisters too!
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Ladies, I have red rashes on my right arm. Any of you experience this? So itchy.
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JeriGrace, don't know if you saw that I experienced SEVERE bone pain from Neulasta too, pretty late in the game compared with others. I'm going to ask about taking Claritin longer.
Angela, how long did you take the Claritin-Advil combo?
Mellie, what's "dialaudid"? I'll try ANYTHING not to endure that again!!! I have a mouth sore too, on the inside of my cheek. I'm using the swish of liquid Benadryl and Maalox. Not sure if it's working, so I may call and ask for "Magic Mouth"
2bluestars,I LOVE that you had others join you
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Pattysmiles, With regard to the head shave, I'm wearing a sleep cap and have no discomfort with stubbies
Congrats on being halfway to the finish line, TwoHobbies
Ive had a pretty normal day, but had another strange symptom - when I laugh or shake my head I get a sharp radiating pain above my eyes!!!
Soriya, you need to call about your rash and I'm calling about the pain! -
HI! I had my first treatment July 11th. If I could have a side effect, I did! Starting with a sore throat, wished i'd knew that was the start of the 'chemo mouth sores' by the time I called my doctor, it was so bad I couldn't eat and barely drink. They called me in some 'Magic mouth wash' which helped a lot. I also knew to drink, drink and drink some more, so I did...still again, dehydrated. I've been back to the cancer center 5 times in the past 8 days for IV fluids. Another is constipation, that has been the worse side effect. Mira-lax worked well for me. During all this I've felt so bad all I did was cry and cry, no reason, just crying and crying. I did get a Neulasta shot which causes terrible and I mean terrible bone pain, the worst pain I've felt in a long time. They gave me Oxycodone for the pain. Since my nerves have been on edge they put me on a antidepressants, that has help a lot too, along with a nice RX of xanax. I'm feeling back to my old self the past few days, but I'm gearing up for my next round next Thursday. I also did shave my head, it feels a bit sore and I've noticed I'm loosing hair 'other places' so I knew it was time.
I don't mean to scare anyone that's getting ready to start chemo, I just want ladies to know what could happen. Please call your oncologist at the first sign of any problems because they can and will help you through this journey. I feel like they have given me all the tools I need now to go into round 2. Three more rounds and I'm done!!
Keep up the fight, we got this!!
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I'm just wondering when the side effects of chemo start? I had my first session yesterday (7/26) and other than feeling like I was coming down with the flu that afternoon I have not felt anything. I am on AC for 4 weeks then Taxol for another 4. I had the Neulasta shot today (my hubby administered it) but I took an Aleve about 45 minutes before. I have been very fit and healthy before this and since getting the go ahead from my PS to start working out 2 weeks ago with the blessing and encouragement of my onco nurse to keep it up during chemo, I wonder if all of that helps? I will be taking Aleve again just in case it is what is helping with the bone pain.
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Interesting regarding constipation. Even 1 Duralax had me doubled with cramps and diarrhea after surgery. So tried Miralax for 2 days along with probiotics and had 4 days of miserable cramping diarrhea and felt like it was kerosene. Have celiac. So took one anti-diarrhea OTC and one of my special anti-spasm gut Rxs. Actually had to take a Dilaudid because was weeping like I had been "attacked." Problem is now day 2 with no poo. Uh oh. I think I need to figure out a natural dietary trick - will try cherries. A co-worker survivor said: 6 oz prune juice, 1 oz orange juice warmed with 1 tsp benefiber. I am just paranoid about triggering runs that are like EXTREME celiac flare up. So my Miralax reactions shared?
God, what a lead sentence. Has it come to this: constipation interesting?! :-) Sheila -
I go for my 3rd AC treatment on Wed. I am so dreading it
I swear this last one had me down in bed for 3 days. I keep telling myself that it is doing it's job because the one large lymph is down by half. I have dealt with nausea (that we can't seem to get under control) sore throats, mouth sores, constipation or the runs (there is no happy medium) edema and for the icing on the cake I have blisters on my right foot and right hand. Sounds like there are going to lower my Adrimyacin dosage this time around since the blisters are a sign of sensitivity. The one thing I feel lucky about is that I am not having any major bone pain with the Nulasta, just some minor aching. I take Claritin the day of chemo, shot day and then for 2 days after. I am seriously funned out and don't want to play anymore. I keep telling myself that next year this time I will look back and be proud of myself. I have to just get there.
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My chemo nurse suggested the 'brown bomber' to get things moving. Its a combination of Milk of Magnesium and prune juice warmed with a tiny amount of butter in it. I had been constipated for almost a week and that helped within 2 hours of drinking it. I now take 2 doses of mira-lax everyday so that doesn't happen again. Hope this helps!
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Scribblinhana, a down day. Sorry it is so rough. Just live one day at a time and when a day is too long, just an hour at a time, or a breath at a time. I get #2 next Thursday. Just hang in there and save your life as you have lots to live for without cancer. Do we dare say we are cancer-free post surgery? Some do. Sending you healing thoughts and courage to face what is so very tough about this treatment. I guess I would rather have chemo kicking my butt than cancer so I will remind myself of that when my own dark nights descend. This is possibly the biggest baddest challenge any of us have faced. It makes me weep to think I have walked around clueless that so many women have been suffering what we now are suffering from dealing with breast cancer. Hugs, Sheila
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Rambo50, very sweet about your husband-- mine said he would shave his head too. Brings tears to have such loving husbands & partners and friends.
I love the photo of you and your husband cuddling such a sweet loving moment. Take good care of yourself. Get a Bucky (soft buckwheat filled you heat in microwave) sprinkle water on it and heat in microwave for 2 minutes. This should help some of the bone ache. I haven't had any bone ache more than I normally get but I am day 10 and would think Nulestra bone pain would have hit by now. But could get up tomorrow and find it isn't true. Some say Claritin works day before chemo and for 2 days after. I hope your MO can figure out a solution to offset it. Sheila -
Daisy72, just HATE you're going through so many SEs
seems we're all so different, but I STILL learn SO much from each of you! Going through this armed with knowledge and options makes a big difference in my book ;-)
Scribbinhanna and SheilaB330, I'm with you on the constipation/diarrhea mess!!! I'm either one or the other w/o chemo, so this has been a challenge. I'm afraid to keep taking meds to loosen things up when not needed, but also fearful of backing up quickly like I did the first round if I don't!?
Two Questions for you all:
- Is anyone else having difficulty sleeping??? I just can't seem to make it longer than 3:30 or 4:00 when I hit the sack by 10:00
- except the 2 nights I had to take Lortab for my Neulasta pain ;-)
- What about H2O - are you all drinking constantly ALL the way through or just around infusion time and a few days post??? I'll admit I've slacked off and am getting scared as round #2 approaches on Wednesday...
Thanks!
Hope this is a wonderful day, in at least a small way, for each of you
~Lynn
- Is anyone else having difficulty sleeping??? I just can't seem to make it longer than 3:30 or 4:00 when I hit the sack by 10:00
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GraceB- just had my second dose of AC and will start T afterwards too. For me the day after treatment was pretty good, then some nausea and fatigue started the following day followed by constipation and mild bone pain. As you'll see everyone's a little different though and the degree it effects us can be very different. Definitely keep moving as much as you can, it seems to help. But dont push too hard, you need time to rest too. Hope it goes well for you.
Sheila - well said! I always thought I was a pretty compassionate person, but going through this will definitely change my perspective.
Rambo - had 2nd infusion on Thursday and had trouble sleeping for 2 nights. Got up to use the bathroom 2-3 times then woke up between 4-5:00 and couldnt go back to sleep. Took Ativan last night and that helped some. Slept till 6:30 today. I got a little lazy too with drinking water, but tried to kick it back up a couple of days before infusion.
SE's have actually been a little easier this time for me. The first time I took compazine at the first sign of nausea like they said. It helped but made me very constipated. This time I held off for a few minutes to see if nausea would pass or get worse. Only had to take one compazine so far. Still constipated, but not as bad as last time. Of course if you need the nausea meds take them, not good to be throwing up. But if its mild try holding out for a little before you decide. We're all so different in how this effects us. Feel so badly for those of you suffering with all the nasty SEs. Praying that you'll feel better today.
Going tomorrow to get the head shaved. 😥 Got a wig, couple of scarves and a sleep cap. Nurse said its all going to come out anyway since Im on adriamycin so no point cutting it short. Its day 17 and its falling out quickly, not clumps, but shedding all over my clothes. Im afraid to even wash it today. My 15 year old daughter wants to come with me. Sweet of her, but hope its not too traumatic for both of us. Hate that this is such a visual statement that labels me "cancer patient". Gotta put on my 'big girl panties' for this one. Still love that quote! -
Hi troupers, Lynne Im still taking the claritin and advil combo day 6, last time I stopped taking it around day 4 and was in agony so went right back on it for 9 days,the pain is horrible so treat it as long as u need. my platelets and rbcs were low though,possibly from the advil but my onco wasnt concerned. Sleep,well,i get it when i can,there is nothing worse than being up at 3am with all those nasty thoughts(you all know what i mean). Ativan helps not only nausia but anxiety and sleeplessness so take it if u need it. Constipation,ugh,who knew? I'm taking womens overnight laxative tabs,and melatonin 3mg which is for sleep but has a nice side effect of stool softening. Husband freaking out unless i am wearing wig,put a scarf on for bed and he nearly jumped off the couch in fear. So I'll put the wig on first thing in the am,take the stupid thing off while he's at work then pop it back on 5 mins before he gets home from work,if it makes him happy why not. Hang in there all,this is not our summer but next summer watch out! Angela
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Rambo50...YES!! I could not sleep at all. My chemo nurse said its from all the steroids and was very normal. They gave me a RX for Ambien, that's been a life saver! Once I rested well, I started feeling much better. Call you Doctor in the morning, they will give you something.
As for drinking...Boy I have drank and drank, water, gatorade, ensure, and juice AND still dehydrated. I've been back 5 times in the past 8 days to get IV fluids. I just cried and cried because I thought I wasn't doing something right to prevent it. They told me it was just the chemo and the nausea pills, it can't be helped. So when your feeling really terrible, don't hesitate to call them and ask for extra fluids, it makes a world of difference for me!! After I'm hydrated I find that I actually feel like eating. Hope this helps!
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I haven't seen it mentioned here lately but I chewed popsicles and ice chips all the way through the adriamycin push. I haven't had any mouth sores at all, just a sore throat for two days. I really thinked it helped a lot. I'm still fighting some nausea and heartburn but started on prilozac yesterday hoping that will help. I know I didn't drink enough the first week and am going to work harder on that the next time (Fri.) My hair is really starting to shed but I'm going to wait until I can't stand it anymore to get it shaved. I know I'm not going to look good bald. Might scare the dog.
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Good day chemo warriors. It's been a few days since I have been able to get on. With working and appointments and treatments this week, it's been busy. Today I ended up brushing my hair and now I have very little hair left on my head. It's day 16 for me. I was told by day 17 it would be gone. Well the doc was right. The rest is being shaved later today. I just put a scarf on to cover it up. I don't want to scare the kids yet as I had a good cry on Dh's shoulders. I love my man. It just makes it more real when you lose your hair. It's tough. But well.. I will be going out today with the scarf and put my big girl panties on and go live my life.. because I AM HERE TO LIVE IT! Cancer won't beat the shit out of me!
Anyway.. with the Neulasta shot. Has anyone's doctor put them on Naproxen? I know I took that the first shot and I felt NO PAIN what so ever. So I started to take it again this shot. I took the shot yesterday and I have no pain yet. Will take it the rest of the week to be sure.
This second chemo went better than the first. Not feeling as tired, and I of course don't have the migraine that I had during the first dose which is helping me cope.
Gotta run.. I am wishing everyone a happy sunday!
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Grace, the first two or three days I am tired with constipation starting and chemo fog. The muscle pains start after that, and for me, the mouth sores came about a week later, but the second time I didn't get the mouth sores.
Daisy and Scribblin, sorry you are having such bad SEs. I did too, and I think part of the angst was not expecting it. My husband says now I know what to expect, and that it will get better, so that did kind of help me roll with the punches.
Lark, sometimes I fall apart in front of my 16-yr-old. At first I felt bad since I'm the mom and supposed to model strong, but I figured this is real life. He does not seem any worse for wear and gives really good hugs and says he's already used to me without hair! I think you'll find your daughter to be a comfort.
I also have a rash just on my hand, Soriya. I think your onc will want to know about it. Mine does not itch and they don't exactly know what mine is! Anyone else have something similar? I personally think mine was caused by the steroid because I felt it get irritated when they ran the steroid.
It has been cold here in Illinois, 60 yesterday and I can see that I may need some kind of cap to keep me warm by September. Does anyone have any ideas on a non-winter type cap, not too hot, not too cold, to just wear around the house or taking the dog out?
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Rambo50, i tend toward insomnia. Last night husband discovered me still up sitting out on couch with cancer-overload anxiety attack and husband concerned BC Boards freaking me out. But had to address that below my positive exterior I am afraid of "what lies ahead?" chiefly possibility of recurrence at Stage IV for a Stage IIIa. Usually some dark night if the soul makes me as you describe. If you meditate, sit with that for what your inner life is churning over.
Water - we have well with best water but I bought a 27 oz Menu Water Jug that I keep in the fridge drawer with lime quarters in. Taste wonderful and I am trying to be sure it is refilled with water 3+ times a day. Expensive jug but the top ingenious and holds any ice cubes or fruits from being poured into your glass as you pour. Amazon. {{{Rambo50}}}}
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