Starting Chemo July 2013
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Hi everyone,got through my second dose dense ac,my sister took me this time,my husband cant take many more days off,and Mary(my sis)was great. I feel nausious but forced an egg sandwich down. My hair is still hanging on,whats up with that? Its day14,i planned to shave my head this friday,but now I'm not sure, I want to hang on to ituntil the last minute. What are some of ur experiences with hair falling out,i thought for sure it would be coming out or at least thinning by now?Hugs to all us troupers getting through our chemo today.
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Angelanature, sounds like we're on the same treatment plan ;-)
Glad your round #2 went well and I hope you have minimal SEs this time!!!
My hair is already thinning - day 7 - but I'm shaving it Friday anyway. My hair's already super short, so I've not got MUCH to lose, just don't want it to fall out in clumps and get all over the place (and for my dog to eat it - lol).
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JeriG. Well done on giving yourself the neulasta shot ... If I need one am sure DH won't be lining up to give it to me. Have friends who r nurses/drs. So maybe I will enlist their help
Had a little clump of hair come out in the shower this morning. Nothing mega bad. But def more than usual. Yep you guessed it. Day 14
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Hi troopers,
I will have my 2nd infusion Tmr Wed. My hair in beginning to thin out it is already short so whatever ? I feel really good NOW! But Tmr is another day. I am doing the Joseph's lash and brow stuff seems to be working yeah happy about that. My prayer go out to all of you strong ladies. please let me know how it goes.
Texas Hugs
Gma04 -
I'm on day 13 of my first cycle of AC. My pubic hair started falling out two days ago, but my chin beard is hanging on for dear life! Sorry if that is TMI...just had to share.
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ha - i can't wait for my chin/lip hairs to fall out! i'll save some money on threading.
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Hi everyone. Had round two of TC yesterday and neulasta injection today... So far so good, but then day 2 is "the best day" isn't it. Expecting things to pretty much go as last time, but without the July 4th week heat wave this time around thank goodness! I think about all you ladies a lot... You all are an inspiration and it's so good to know we're in this together and we're going to kick this together... I really appreciate all the sharing of experiences and support. There are so many of us here now, in various places in our regimens, I'm starting to lose track... Wherever YOU are right now, good luck and keep on keepin' on... We WILL get through this. Sweet dreams, all.
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Rambo.. sorry to hear about that. I have my appt on Aug 2, so we will see what happens then.
I go for my second AC round on Friday. I really hope that I do much better this time. First time I had a super duper migraine which made the first day crap no matter what. I feel so much better this second week. My brain fog has lifted but my fatigue is still here. And hungry.. I'm hungry at night all the time! WOW! I just have to get better hydrated during the day.
Good luck with everyone who's having infusions this week.
Love n Light to all.. g'night
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Just curious if anyone having AC has had any swelling problems. I had my second treatment last week and noticed over the weekend I was having some hand and feet swelling. Called the office monday and they set me up with some Lasix and potassium. Did one dose of the lasix and actually dropped just shy of 4lbs. I was fine until this evening when I went out to eat with family. Didn't think about it and had fries and a soda and now I'm puffy again
I didn't notice any swelling after my first treatment so I'm wondering if this is something that will only get worse after future treatments.
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OMG, Wilikers!! That's hilarious - I actually just felt for mine ;-). I pulled a couple out prior to my chemo start last week and they've not grown back! And my pubic hair's thinning too. Oh well...
You know, Honeybunny, if the lymphedema is something I have to deal with to live a long and full life, I'll take it. I LOVED my therapist, and am excited to also work with her toward a 100% range of motion goal! I'll be praying for a "good" round 2 for you on Friday
Scribblinhanna, I had some swelling after my first AC treatment, but I guess it wasn't bad enough for a diuretic? Mine was only in my ankles (and face of course), and I was told to elevate my legs when possible and wear compression stockings. That seemed to do the trick for me. I also read it's best to go light on the sodium! I really hope it doesn't happen again!
My prayers are with you today, Gma04!!!
Also, I'm just curious, have any of you been told no raw foods (fruits, veggies, nuts - nothing that's not been cooked) or eating out?
Hugs to all,
Lynn -
Trying to get a fix on AC "new normal". 1st AC Thur July 18 then Nulestra Fri July 19. Had 3 days of steroids. Now feel like less appetite and more nausea since Monday. "Feel" like I should be over nausea hump and not needing anti-nausea meds. Realize individual reaction and first treatment shows how my body responds. Anyone else feeling "worse" later? Thanks Sheila
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Go for port-- serious. AC very hard on veins. If you had nodes removed they can only use opposite arm- hard on one arm to take all chemo. Was nervous about port and used lidocaine 1 hr prior to access. Did not even feel poke. Very easy because chemo mixes into veneous vein near heart so easy circulation. I did not initially want port but changed mind hearing others' experience -"miss port every post chemo stick."
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I neglected to share some new info I gathered at the LG-FB session I attended on Tuesday.
There's a product that Babies R Us carries called "Queasy Pops" that's supposed to help with nausea, and another called "Angel Mints" (I think you have to order these online) that's supposed to do the same
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Angelanature- we're on the same treatment plan too. I go tomorrow for my 2nd treatment and no hair loss yet!
I haven't scheduled an appointment yet to shave my head. I'm putting it off as long as I can too. So once it starts falling out is it usually just a couple of days before it comes out in clumps? Should probably get an appointment scheduled. My mo said I would still have my hair when I went for my 2nd treatment so I thought I could wait a bit.
Rambo - I was told to wash raw fruits and veggies and to avoid salad bars and buffets. Took my husband out for dinner for his birthday last night so hope that was ok. No idea what my WBC is. They dont check mine until I go for 2nd round tomorrow.
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Lynn, all I was told about dining out was to stay away from salad bars and buffet restaurants since a hundred people may have handled those serving spoons before you. I still cheated on that; I went up and loaded my plate, put it on the table, went to the ladies room and scrubbed my hands, and then went back to eating.
They made no mention of fresh fruits and veggies, but I always wash them anyhow. I do believe they 'overload' their warnings somewhat.
Carol
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It looks like I'm starting tomorrow. Saw my MO yesterday and I said I wanted to start ASAP. I will be doing TC x6 every 3 weeks, with a Neulasta shot next day. Picked up my steroids, zofran and dilaudid last night.
My surgical breast is swollen, red and tender. I saw my surgeon yesterday and she thinks it's just lymphatic congestion. I met the radiation oncologist yesterday for the first time and she's saying 6.5 weeks treatment. I'm gutted! That makes me stuck here, 3000 miles away from my family, for the Christmas holidays. I thought it was bad enough to cancel my August trip back home.
My MO is very poor at communicating what's going on. I haven't been told much of anything apart from given the prescriptions. I'm hoping there will be some orientation when I go for the first infusion tomorrow. I see others are getting info like avoid salad bars and buffets. From what you've said, Carol, maybe they're okay if I get my boyfriend to make up the plate for me and I don't touch the serving utensils!
I'm not sure if I should take my 2 Decadron tables this morning, this evening or one this morning and one this evening.
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I feel bad, I posted then disappeared, but I can say my first round was hard on me and I didn't get on my computer or tablet for 5 days after.
So a couple of weird questions, 1) Did anyone have weird nervous energy after? About day 5, I couldn't sit still. It was like having severe ADHD. It took a couple of days to wear off and now my back and legs are sore from all of the moving I was doing. 2) This might be TMI, but I figure this is where to ask, I am having "attacks" every morning of needing to go to the bathroom and it includes severe cramping and lightheadedness. I go to the bathroom, feel better and then start again 5-10 minutes later. It can last up to 2 hours. I figured I would call the nurse to ask, but wondered if anyone else experienced this.
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Hi everyone,rambo and lark,yes we r on the same nightmare road. Feel bad this morning,like a horrible hangover. Took steroid like a good girl and going for newnasty shot this afternoon. My old neighbors came over last night and the first thing they said was omg u cut your hair so short,nice huh? Wait til they see me bald! Had a weird purple discoloring around my port after infusion,not bruising and the nurses had no idea what it is,anyone else have this? I'll ak to have my onco look at it today after shot,its freaking me out,easpecially since the nurses have never seen this before. Dreading driving to docs for shot,just getting out of bed is hard,but we do what we have to do,right? Love to all my bc sisters,woman power to all.xx
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Lynn, I was told no fresh fruit or veggies because even when you clean them you cant get all the germs off. with chemo, since our immune system is down its better to stay away from germs. She said even when you peal something like an apple your knife has to go through the skin which can transfer germs to the inside. you dont know how many fingers have handled the food. Maybe that was too much info but thats what i was told. Have to eat canned and Im going ask about frozen. Hope it helped.
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Supermomof6, are you taking steroids on day 5? It sounds like you need to either change the steroids or take a different dose.
Personally I think the direction against salad and fruit is going overboard. I recall having the same warnings when I was pregnant.
Angelanature, I recall my hair started coming out in clumps on day 17 after AC and that was pretty standard. -
Mellie, don't take the chance with buffets unless you know what your white cell count is that day. I would know because I had blood lab the day before each chemo; that usually became the buffet day depending on the count. While I took precautions with not handling serving pieces, I never went buffeting when my wbc count was below the normal mid-range. Not worth the disaster it could cause.
We eat out every other day at regular restaurants, and the chemo never became a problem. But I did do a lot of handwashing during those months.
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Hey all, I've been offline for a few days...couldn't get a signal.
Not being able to draw blood from the port is common. I was told that the ports are actually designed more for infusion than drawings. As long as they can get the fluids to go in (I was told if you can taste the saline going in, the chemo will have no problem going in also), you can get the infusion through the port. There is a injection that they can give that will, most of the time, reopen the port and allow for a blood draw. However, I don't normally use it because you have to wait up to 30 minutes after injection for it to work and I don't want to wait around. I have good veins and so I can usually get a blood draw on the first easy prick. I don't have a problem with needles but IVs freak me out which is why I got the port in the first place. I'll ask what the injection is that allows for the port to be reopened and post it here after my next chemo session. Basically what happens is blood forms at the end of the port opening and forms a flap, the fluid going in pushes it open but when they try to draw blood out the flap sucks into the open preventing the blood from going in. The chemical they inject removes the clot/flap.
The past two weeks I not only had to deal with my bald head but also with a scalp infection. So I looked like an ostrich with a rash. Prickly liitle hairs and red, swollen, pus filled bumps all over my scalp, sideburn areas, and upper neck. Where ever there was a hair follicle there was a bump. Talk about not wanting to go anywhere looking like that. Normally I'm not too embarassed about my bald head but I looked gross and didn't want to make people SICK looking at me. It's only now starting to clear up, after scrubbing my head up to 8 times a day and applying an antibiotic. Just a few bumps here and there now.
As a Stage IVer, I would recommend fighting cancer aggressively if at all possible. Yes very few cancers return but when they do they are fatal at some point. I will be on cancer treatment for the rest of my life and I will die from it eventually. The only way cancer won't kill me is to be hit by a bus or some other freak accident. I will continue to fight this cancer for as long as I can and pray for better treatment that will give long term results or even a cure. Hey hope springs eternal. The first time around I thought I fought aggressively but looking back maybe I should have pushed for radiation on my lymph nodes since one had a small tumor in it. I was told the chemo should kill off any cells left after tumor removal and my other nodes LOOKED clear. I didn't do any rads. Of course, the cancer could have returned regardless. You just never know for sure. I say give yourself all the options available to stop this disease in its tracks and then if it does come back you know you did all you could to stop it. I don't have regrets because I know I did the best I knew how to do at the time.
I have good days and bad days but for the most part I'm certain that I can survive for a long time. I don't have a timeline from God for my life so I'm taking one day at a time and have faith that he'll let me know when it's my time to go. I've been tolerating the chemo drugs pretty well. No real pain just fatigue and constipation. No real appetite at times (food doesn't taste great) and I get full pretty easily. I'm fat...okay I'm obese...so this really isn't a problem. I don't mind admitting this because God designed us all differently and the fat acts like a resource..lol..for when I can't eat much.
Hang in there folks and try to pamper yourself when you can. Try to eat what you want, sleep when you want, and definitely vent when you need to. I know this is hard for some people with commitments that can't be pushed off, but try to find help where ever you can. In some communities the American Cancer Society provides some assistance with housework and other resources. Please avail yourself to whatever they offer that might help you.
Also if someone says something to you that is insensitive or darn right cruel, try to ignore it because you can't stop stupid. Use it to make yourself stronger. If you feel like you have to respond, remind them that cancer can happen to ANYONE and how would they feel if they were in your position. You could be their mother, sister, wife or even child. That usually shuts them up.
Man this is a long post. I guess I'm a little hyper today. I'm on my week off of treatment so I flying high. Wishing you all the best.
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Hi Rambo50! It was good to meet you the other day and thanks for steering me towards this discussion group. I am so sorry you're having to deal with lymphedema on top of everything else now. I had no idea. My doc told me it's rare, but you're the second person I've met recently with that problem so soon after surgery.
As of yesterday, my hair is short for the first time in my life and I like it! The expanders are getting too uncomfortable to wear a bra now and I'm going to have to keep carrying around these rocks on my chest until after chemo
. But I have to say the hair and the no-bra experience are quite freeing! I think I may use an over-the-counter temporary color on my hair tomorrow, before my first chemo on Friday, as I know I won't be able to do it for a long time and I want to test out a different color just for yucks.
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Hi again,Rambo sorry about ur lymphodema,i had a severe hematoma at my node dissection site,my incision even opened up but my surgeon didnt drain it said it would resolve. Well,then a week later i developed these weird rope like things,very painful in my armpit and down the inside of my arm to the elbow,diagnosised with axillary web syndrome. A month later its alot better with alot of massage and exercise. Now Im at high risk for lymphodema,especially during my radiation(after chemo) i have a port in my right arm and the AWS in my left, nurses have been taking bps with a wrist cuff and my bps have been really high 140/90,ive always been low 100/60,anyone else with this problem? thanks marsha for the heads up on my head. aaso,that sounds so horrible was it after shaving ur head? I sooo feel for u. Ang
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I really didn't want to post this, but I'm having a REALLY shi##y day
My WBCs are in the toilet (0.8), ANC (0.1), so I've been put on an antibiotic. And if that's not bad enough, my onco cornered me in the infusion suite where I was having blood drawn for labs and asked me to see him while I was there... My BRCA test came back and I'm positive:(:(. SO, after all this sucky chemo, I'm going to have to have my other breast and ovaries removed
. AND, now my precious daughter, who has type 1/juvenile diabetes (since age 6) has a 50:50 chance of carrying this genetic mutation!!! She's only 21.
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Angela, I had cut my hair short and when it started falling out in the shower all over me I had my husband shave it and then went to work. Shaving really does not require a hairdresser or any kind do skill, just a set of clippers.
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Oh, Rambo, that is just the worst. I am so sorry. It's bad enough for us but when it effects our kids that's the lowest blow. Don't feel bad about being negative - I'd crawl in that hole and give you a hug right now if I could.
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I believe the scalp infection was there when I had hair but didn't spread because the hair prevented it from getting to the other follicles. After I shaved my head it started to spread because whenever I rubbed my head the bumps would break and spread the infectious pus to the other follicles. A lower immunity didn't help either. It is getting much better though. I made the decision to shave my head when I was covered in my own hair while taking a bath. It looked as if a yeti had its hair cut in the tub. It was gross and I worried about the plumbing getting clogged. I figured do it and get it over with. Did the same thing the first time I had cancer.
Rambo, please don't blame yourself for being BRCA positive. It isn't anything you did and nothing you can do to stop it. It is good that your daughter knows about it because then she can keep an early watch, early mammos and such, to catch any changes before they become life threatening. Sorry that your numbers are in the toilet. Is your ONC going to delay the chemo treatments in order to let your WBCs improve? My ONC won't let me have any chemo if the WBCs tank. They get low at times but never down to the level you're at. Sending best wishes your way that things improve for you.
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Hi Rambo,I feel so upset for you,i also have a beautiful,loving,smart 19yr old daughter and havent heard yet about my braco results. My mom was adopted so we have no family history. I am sending hugs,tears,and feel free to smash something,punch,scream,and get it out girl. We r with you in everyway. Ang
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Rambo- so sorry that you have had such bad day. It really sucks and some times it feels like we just can't get a break. I hope your WBC get better soon and they you continue to feel better. Do not ever apologize for feeling bad or negative. We all consider this a judgement free zone and we are all here to support each other. Sending you and your daughter tons of hugs!
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