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  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2013

    Woo Hoo LeeLeeLynn!

  • beachbound009
    beachbound009 Member Posts: 89
    edited July 2013

    Today is 11 of 33 treatments so I'm 1/3 of the way through.  I feel so yucky today and I did yesterday too.  My body is exhausted and I'm so nauseous.  I’m having more nerve pain which prevents me from sleeping through the night, even with the Ativan I’m taking.  It’s so frustrating feeling this way and it makes me so mad.  I’m supposed to walk with a friend after work who’s really in need of friend time and I just can’t do it.  I hate bailing on her but I have no choice.  I know she understands but it frustrates me.  I really didn’t think rads would be this difficult.  I always thought I was tough when it came to being sick but these SE’s make me feel like such a baby, as did the chemo. I just HATE feeling so weak.  Hoping for a better day tomorrow.

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    Happy Monday, Ladies.  It's time for me to join this group.  I just met my RO today and had my radiation consultation.  He seems quite nice. 

    My final chemo is on Wednesday (yay!!) and my CT scan etc for radiation will be in about 4 weeks.  I guess technically, I could be in the fall group since most of my radiation will occur then, but now is when I'm thinking about it and asking questions.

  • LeeLeeLynn
    LeeLeeLynn Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2013

    Thanks ladies....I rang it loud. Good to know about the froggtogg causing skin reactions in some, my sensitive skin was OK luckily.

    I wish you a better day tomorrow beachbound.

    Shipsgirl, I noticed you are a left sider too. Please check into prone position radiation to keep the zapping off your heart and lung.

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    I am fried.  Tomorrow they are dropping my super clav, and the bolus in the center area, but I'm mostly concerned with the crease in my underarm.  It is super sore, and even with 2 vicodins, I had trouble napping today.  Going to go lay down and read with my Lindi cooling pad on it for a while and see if it takes the sting out.  My RO is going on vacation (today was her last day this week) so we met with her.  Feel good about our discussion.  She's going to leave me another pain med prescription in case i need it while I'm out of state, and told me to let them know what lotions I need more of before I leave.  

    Didn't want to hear that she thought I'd have a few areas of skin breakdown by Sunday with weeping, but it is what it is and I will get through it.  My sister offered today to take Amtrak down to me and drive me to CT on Saturday then take amtrak back to PA.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations LeeLee!!!  There are a few of us finishing up this week.  We CAN do this!

    Now that it's been almost a week since my last full breast treatment, the annoying itchiness has subsided almost completely and my breast now just looks like it has a very mild rash across the top.  No skin breakdown and I made it through almost the whole day without even noticing my boob.  (On the other hand I was busy having an endometrial biopsy without any kind of anesthetic so have a good excuse. Not fun!)

    Anyway, in the home stretch now.  RO says things should keep getting better from this point on, so feel  happy and blessed to say I'm pretty sure I've made it through rads without any severe skin issues.  

    Four more!

    30/34

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited July 2013

    What a nice sister you have gwtf. She wants to make sure you get on that well deserved vacation!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    My sister is the absolute best.  She's been down here several times since this started.  Once before chemo started to distract me a bit, once during chemo.  Her daughter has been down twice too.  I just will not be able to thank her enough for helping me get away.

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    LeeLee - thank you.  I did ask about it.  My RO said that it is something they, as a group, have decided not to do at the BC Cancer Agency.  He said that they have other ways (such as breath holding) to avoid the heart. 

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited July 2013

    Ok my ladies glad that you guys are finishing and some ate still working your way there .... It's my second week and I'm doing ok... Of course it's just the beginning...... I had couple of girl use the this method ... I been doing it but like your input also..... So right after rads I place miaderm then aloe Vera I wait for a few minutes spray rosewater and seal with lanolin ... And let it dry 3 to 4 times a day ......

    Has anyone use aquaphor only????



    And do you guys get headaches cause I do and I broke out a rash.... Tiny little red dots every where .. Thanks my ladies have a nice day

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    All that at the same time?  I'd be afraid it would be too much and make me itch.

    I've been given prescription stuff all along, and have used that at least twice a day.  In between, I"ve used aquafor, cortisone, pure aloe, emu oil, and the lindi cooling pads.  I try to wash off before applying new stuff because of the itch.

    It's my understanding that nothing we do will prevent what's going to happen, but it makes it more comfortable.  Right now i'm dealing with skin starting to break down and burning, feeling like my skin is going to split in the crease of my arm.  Hoping they will give me lidocain or silverdine to numb the area a bit so I can sleep through the night.  i'm not good with pain and Im up in the middle of the night to take more pain meds, and up early once they wear off.

  • beachbound009
    beachbound009 Member Posts: 89
    edited July 2013

    Thanks Leelee and congrats!!! 

    I slept pretty good last night so I'm hoping for a little more energy today.  I have my treatments around 8 every morning, then I go to work and the fatigue sets in a few hours later.  I'm wondering if having rads in the afternoon would allow more energy in the morning?  Thoughts anyone?

    12/33

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited July 2013

    GWTF I hope they can give you something for the pain. I'm like you and don't tolerate pain well, but also hate taking pain pills. Yesterday I broke down and took an Advil extra strength after suffering sore, stiff joints from the waist down-all day long. I swear I feel like a 90 year old when I try and get up fom sitting. The pain in my thighs has lessened but now seems to have moved ino my joints. Hopefully this will lessen with time.

    It was my 12th rad yesterday and this morning my chest is getting itchy. At least I have a day off-servicing equipment. I'm sure there's more to come :(

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    We are trying a mixture of aquafor and lidocaine. So far so good. Real test will be naptime

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited July 2013

    Gowiththeflow .... I know it's a lot but it worked for her and her skin looked intact ....how many more do you have ... I have 6/28 and its starting to tan .. They told me to use aloe Vera only...... I just want my skin to heal so I can have my reconstruction since I had to remove the TE on the radiated side!!!!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    I have 2 left.  At this point, I have two sections that cannot be rubbed with lanolin.  I've used it up til today by daubing it heavily on.  I cannot spread it because the skin is so sore and I think would rub off.   Didn't get a nap, but laid down and the combination of two pain pills and the aquafor/lidocaine seems to give me some relief.  

    For those of you who's skin broke down, does it feel better once the dark crusty stuff comes off?  Right now it feels like its burning, like i'm being stabbed with needles, then when I move the wrong way, like my skin is going to split.

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Had the last one today! Took the kids to the mall and treated myself to an Irish Cream truffle from Godiva Smile My RO said I can absolutely go in the water on my vacation so that is good. I just hope it doesn't irritate my skin more and that it starts to heal soon. It seriously looks like I should be in the burn ward. Screaming red, raw, scorched looking with fluid filled blisters or "deflated" blisters that are oozing. Not looking forward to having blood and other fluids seep all over my clothes and hotel room sheets during the trip, but really it's more of a pain in the ass than actual pain. I do believe I have a high threshold for pain and combined with the nerve damage/loss from my surgeries, I really don't have a lot of pain. Which is a good thing because I do not tolerate pain medication at all.

    patricia as long as your doctors are OK with that regimen and it is working for you, it's probably fine. I had a bumpy, itchy rash about two weeks in too and I used hydrocortisone with aquaphor for relief. Don't use the hydrocortisone alone because it is drying to the skin. But make sure your RO is OK with anything you use.

    Best wishes to all of you sweet ladies!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations to you, DiZZyMom!!!  Enjoy your well-deserved vacation!!

    31/34

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited July 2013

    Congrats Dizzy!!! The end of a long road for you... Enjoy your vacation!

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited July 2013

    DiZZyMom congrats and have a restful, pain free vacation!! Yahoo! Wishing quick healing and lots of swimming. :)

  • ChickaD
    ChickaD Member Posts: 1,025
    edited July 2013

    Yay Miss Dizzy......enjoy your vacation to the fullest!

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Hi there! I just joined today because I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed and thought I'd try and find a group of women who have been and/or are going through treatment. I'm about to begin my radiation treatment (no Chemo) and Tamoxifen.


    For those of you going through Radition or are finished with your treatments, what information do you have now that you wish you had before starting? I know everyone is different, so it's hard to say, but I thought I'd ask to kind of settle my nerves a little. 

    Thank you all in advance for your help, and congrats to us all for being survivors so that we may honor those who have passed with our continued fight. 

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations Dizzymom!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    SophiaAnne,

    I think I learned all I could from reading this board.  

    Some of the things I'm glad I purchased were the v-neck t-shirts from Walmart ($4.84 each in pretty colors).  I wear them every day and to bed at night.  Will toss when done because they ended up with my sharpie markings and stains from all the oils, creams, and lotions I've used.  The Lindi Cooling Pad which feels good when I use it.  I also bought the cooling roll from them but won't open that til I leave on vacation.  

    My RO gives me lotions to use.  But I have taken some advice from women here and went in with suggestions to my RO and nurse.  Today I asked about lidocaine and silverdine lotion.  She didn't think the silverdine would help right now, but we mixed up a batch of lidocaine with aquafor lotion and that seems to be helping.  

    The other thing was deodorant.  Tom's brand tends to be what is recommended.  You need to get the one that is aluminum free.  My doctor also said to use dove soap because it's not as drying or harsh as other soaps.

    Oh, and the biggest one for me.  Be prepared when you are scheduled for a long appointment.  If you have cording like I did, it can be very very uncomfortable.  My first simulation was 2 hours long.  Since they now prepare me better, I know to have my husband drive me to those appointments and take two vicodin before getting there.  They go much better when I do that.

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Thank you so much. I have tears in my eyes Smile I have the best doctors in the world and am getting treated at one of the best hospitals in the world, yet none of my doctors have told me to get v-neck Ts, or how to mix a topical ointment in order to relieve pain.

    I'm going to be living at the hospital while undergoing treatment which helps. They have these little apartments for folks who live far away (we live 2-3 hours away depending on traffic), so I can just get pushed back to my room, but the information you provided leads me to believe that I won't be riding my motorcycle while undergoing rads. I was just afraid about the possibility of breaking my ribs going over an unavoidable bump, but it seems like it's just not a good idea.

    I'm about to go on Amazon to find Lindi Pads Wink

    I found out I had cancer just two weeks before my Partner and I were to hop on our motorcycles and head to our new home in Ecuador, so it's been really overwhelming because we sold all our things, and got down to basically what could fit in our saddlebags. But, if I could change anything, even getting cancer I wouldn't because it's taught me so much, even though I get crushed under the weight of it from time to time. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    SophiaAnne-Marie -- Welcome to the community. :-)    As you'll see as you read the threads, there are all kinds of different experiences that we each have with treatments.  Some women have an awful time with radiation and have pain and severe skin breakdown, and some women have barely any effects at all....and there's everything in-between, too.  Unfortunately, there is no way to predict, really, and you don't know till you get there, but wherever "there" is, someone here has probably experienced something similar so there's lots of info and support for you.

    I've used aloe more than anything else (99% aloe gelly but some use 100%) and that's all I'm using now as I finish up.  Sometimes you just have to try different things to see what works when you need it and change it for something else when it no longer seems useful.  I switched to different things (sweet almond oil, aquaphor+hydrocortisone) as my treatment wore on, but always kept the aloe to use right after treatment and to cool and soothe.

    One of the things my RO told me is that with rads the skin (and the other cells) are affected from the inside out, so your nutrition really matters in terms of healing and helping your healthy cells regenerate.  I've been really conscientious about eating 70-80 gms of protein a day, lots and lots of fresh vegetables, whole grains, no junk food or sugar, no alcohol, etc.  I have also been supplementing with curcumin (turmeric), omega-3 (fish oil), resveretrol, a multivitamin, and my calcium + D3 (you'd need to ask your RO about supplements, though--mine is OK with all that but yours might not be and some, like turmeric, might interact with the tamoxifen in ways you don't want).  Anyway, while I can't be sure how much my diet helped me through this, I know it didn't hurt me at all and I do feel pretty good, all things considered.

    That's very convenient that you will be getting a close-by apartment for the duration of rads!   It will be over before you know it and hopefully soon you can hop back on that  motorcycle and head home to Equador!

    31/34

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    What a great attitude you have SophiaAnne-Marie. You just might be riding your bike....I didn't have any major SEs until the very last week then my skin just completely fell apart. But thankfully, I don't have much pain. Everybody is different and what works for one might not help another. I hope you get through it without a lot of issues and can get on with your life.

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Thank you so much ladies! Yeah, I know it's hard to judge, but I wanted to hear from actual women as opposed to the countless laundry lists of SEs. I'm practically Vegan, I only buy organic, I rarely, if ever, eat processed food and I don't use any harsh chemicals in my home or on my body, and I don't drink. I'm sure those things will come into play, but now I have a better idea of what to expect. My doctors have told me "everyone is different," but I wanted to hear that from different women.

    My reaction will be my reaction, but now I know I can help it lean more towards a better reaction, possibly. My Partner's mother is an herbalist (in England, where my Partner and his family are from they're like medical doctors), so now she knows what tinctures and ointments to prepare for my skin. Like I said, they don't tell you about Lindi pads and aloe gel, they tell you how they're going to save your life and honestly, I prefer they focus on that. But just as important in the healing process is a sense of community and knowing that you're not the only person on the planet with the same questions, concerns or even the same desire to simply get on with your life. 

    Thank you so much, and I hope my questions are received by someone who needed them, just as much as your answers have helped me, tremendously Smile

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    SophiaAnne, just be sure to run everything by your RO before using.  Most of my lotions are prescription (other than aquafor and aloe gel), and the mixing of them was my nurse's idea.  Honestly, I walked in there today with silverdine and lidocaine on my mind and mentioned them to her.  Don't be afraid to say whatever you want to try and where you got the info.  Who knows better than someone going through treatment.

    But in the end, let them make the best decisions for you.  They know what your skin looks like and what will be best.  Thankfully the lotion potion today combined with doubling my pain meds seems to have gotten me some good sleep. Waiting for my next dose to kick in so i can go back to bed.

    But most women get through with over the counter meds.  I'm a wimp when it comes to pain and have a very low pain tolerance.  

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2013

    Beachbound- Maybe moving your appts to the afternoon will help. I always had mine at 3pm, and that really worked. I set up my work schedule so that I came in early and rads was the last stop of the day. I also had serious fatigue a little while after rads so it was nice that I could just go home.

    GWTF- So sorry you are having such skin issues. To be perfectly honest...so sorry....after the dark crusty stuff came off the pain was worse for me. All those nerve endings were now exposed. But the worst areas of breakdown I had did not start off as dark crusty areas. The dark areas turned into pretty shallow breakdowns that healed relatively quickly. The areas that got shiny though were bad. Once an area of skin turned shiny the next day it was gone, and it was a much deeper breakdown that bled and seeped.

    DizzyMom- Congrats!!!!

    Sophia-Anne- Welcome! I think everyone already said everything I would of said except about the tumeric. I noticed someone told you they were taking tumeric. I have researched the tumeric pretty extensively at this point. I was hoping to use it to help with my asthma. I take tamoxifen, and it seems like most asthma meds have bad drug interactions with tamoxifen. There appears to be two schools of thought about the tumeric. One is that it helps the tamoxifen do its job, and kind of punches it up a little which would be great. The other is that the tumeric blocks one of tamoxifen's binding locations and thus makes it less effective. Not so great. It's a personal choice, but for me I didn't wanted to take the chance of the tamoxifen not doing its job. Unfortunately, with regards to my asthma, this has left me with a very complicated drug regimen where I have 3 different drugs that I take at different times on different days to try to keep the toxic effects and the interactions down.

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