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  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited June 2013

    Aw Ruth sorry you had to drag yourself out in the storm (it's heading up the coast in my direction now) but I'm sure it gives you peace of mind.  Fluid is a bitch.  Can I write that word on BCO?  (We'll find out).

    Gentle hugs back!

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    Do you remember when Heidi used the F word daily?  lol.  I think bitch is gonna be ok.

    That's when MJ and Laura were on....

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited June 2013

    LOL Ruth I have no idea what you're talking about... don't remember a Heidi or the F word... maybe before my time?  (I do, of course, remember MJ -- though I think you mean MBJ, no? -- and Laura).

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    Yes, MBJ...good memory!!  I didn't come in till 2010, so they were already here...maybe you will be lying in bed and you'll slap your forehead and go "Oh yeah, Heidi!!"  She had horses and posted a pic of her in her horse driven sleigh.  She had 250 porcelain Christmas 'houses' and posted a video of her plugging them all in (or lighting the candle).  Ring any bells?  There was one more...Susie?  

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    Hi Ruth- I am so glad you are okay!!!!

    :)



  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    I need some feedback.  I have the new teardrop gummies, and I don't think my ps is being honest with me.  I came out of surgery with 2 tiny A cups, and then the right one got a fungal infection (my fault) that took 2 wks of antibiotics to clear.  It was touch and go...he drained a good deal of fluid out and then I went for an untrasound and a surgeon drained out the same amount of fluid.  My body replaced the fluid both times w/in 24 hrs.  I have a bulging B cup that sticks out like a small balloon...teardrop shape is lost.  The pain from the infection and swelling is all but gone, yay!!  It was sooo sore.   I lost my insurance...so I think my ps is not doing anything because it would require insurance...(treatment beyond my post-op visits)....he says the foobs are fine (there is no remaining infection, skin looks good) and that it will take about a year for them to settle down and for the left one to relax.  I know my body and i know this is not right.  I am doing light massage, but neither of these babies are budging!  Any thoughts?  Thanks!!!  

  • sherry67
    sherry67 Member Posts: 556
    edited June 2013

    Ruth which brand did you recieve

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    Natrelle 420 I think they are called and I got like 375ccs.  I had Natrelle 650s before that were way too big.

  • MondaysChild
    MondaysChild Member Posts: 591
    edited June 2013

    You mean Natrelle (Allergan) 410s.  Those are the anatomical. 

    I am considering a revision to these and am dissappointed to read that 375ccs are 2 tiny A cups on you.  What band size bra do you wear? Is this A cup in a 32 or 34 or is it A cup in a 36 or 38?  I am sorry you are not pleased with the results, especially with limited options now available to you.

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    I'm a 38...w/out the extra pounds, I would be a 36.  The top 2/3 of the implant is just an introductory slope to the foob, and is 2" from my collarbone.  I can't imagine these 'dropping', but then again I haven't had these.  I waited 2 yrs for the 650s to drop and they never did.  The depth of the implant at its deepest is your full projection, and it is  much less than I thought it would be.

    I could live with this one being an A if the other one matched and wasn't hard as a rock and blown up like a balloon.  It didn't look that way coming out of surgery.  oh well, the liquid has to absorb SOMETIME, doesn't it?????

    It'll be a year before i get to another ps (moving and no insurance), so all i can do is cross my fingers.  He said the foob was fine, so there can't be a risk to worry about.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited June 2013

    Ruth -- you need to look into assistance so you can get another opinion.  If you feel this way, the only thing to do is speak to another doctor.  I will say that the gummies are very firm.  And mine did not move much until 3 months post-surgery (MUCH more flexible now though they will never move like regular silicone, which is simply softer and less form-rigid). 

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited June 2013

    I may have mentioned this before, but it dawned on me again...the swelling has to be Lymphedema!!  My armpit is full and squishy, the arm is a tad swollen, but that is my sensitive side, and the surgery/infection must have stirred things up. There is no pain, just extreme fullness so that it feels hard....sometimes more than others.   I called the dr again yesterday and they said capsular contraction and infection are the only 2 things it could be at this point, and dr hands-on examined me 10+ minutes and said I was fine...so anyone who has been reading these posts, I just wanted to share the info.  I am doing my Lymph light massage and getting something to put in the other cup so I'm not so lopsided...so much for going bra-less!  Sending NED to help you on your way!

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    Hi Ruth, that makes sense. I hope it is temporary!!!

  • sherry67
    sherry67 Member Posts: 556
    edited June 2013

    Has anyone had rippling with the Allergan 410's...

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2013

    Sherry:  I have Allergan 410's and no rippling.  Hope someone else can add more.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    I have no rippling either (though I suppose if I scrunch myself up in certain ways I can make the implant look pretty ghastly LOL).

    Ruth that makes sense.  I hope the LE massage works. 

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Hi everyone!



    I had a nipple sparing bilateral mastectomy this past December. I am now 2 weeks post exchange for allergan 410's 520 ccs. At first I wasn't sure if I liked them because I lost a lot of projection. The size of my implant is good but I wish there was more projection. The implant is actually pretty wide compared to the projection. I am getting used to them now, still a little bit swelling and such. I have not gotten sized but I think I am probably a C cup. They do look a lot more natural and look pretty good. My question is to the other women who have this implant to they drop & fluff at all or they pretty much stay the same look?



    Thanks!

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    There are some changes but not a big amount of drop and fluff in my experience.  But they do take on a better shape in time due to the lessening of swelling.  I have great projection though!  I'm a uni and my implant projects equally to my native breast.  Still, they don't project as much as TEs if that is what you're comparing them to (but DO project more than regular silicone as far as I understand it).

    Anyway the short answer is: there will be changes but it's not the same as drop and fluff... though the net result IS that they will look better :)

    It takes time.  Drop and fluff takes 3 - 6 months and so will any changes with gummies.  You'd be surprised how much a little swelling affects the overall look and feel.

  • Keke713
    Keke713 Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2013

    Hi ladies! So, I had my exchange surgey yesterday and chose the natrelle 410, 535cc... Did anyone else's look flat and a lot smaller than expected? I'm really disappointed with what I can see so far. I literally have no clevage and I was most excited about that :-(

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2013

    Yes I had the same experience with my 410MX 550cc, swelling was significant which made them look flatter. I wast happy from the very start, but over the next 4 mths they tightened and changed for the better. You will see changes for the better. Ultimately i was very fussy, it was not the look and projection I wanted. I have since swapped for anatomical Mentor CPG (went up a bit in volume but the implant is narrower giving a more rounded look like expanders). I absolutely love the result and am surprised at how different they look. Will post on pic forum when my swelling goes down more. Give it some time, but I certainly know that feeling of shock and disappointment.

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Hi Keke,



    Yeah I have natrelle 410, 520cc. My exchange was about 2/3 weeks ago, and I initially did not like them because I felt flat and not as much cleavage as I was thinking or hoping and also was dissapponted in the projection. They are looking better and I am getting used to them. In a sports bra I look kind of flat but in a bra they look pretty good. I think I initially was disappointed because I compared them to the usual implant fake look and also compared to the tissue expanders which are so out there and in your face lol. I keep hearing with time they will start looking better. I also am starting to like them a lot more, they are natural looking on my body. Today I went to Nordstrom to get sized (I was told they are specialized for mastectomy and implants) and I was actually sized a 32DD! So they are a good size, just not projected out and fake looking. Give it some time! :)

  • Keke713
    Keke713 Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2013

    Thanks for your message. I've been pretty upset about it.. And more so now since I finally got to shower and get a good look... They are so flat, long looking and really wide. I'm hoping they are just swollen and will take a different shape. :-(

  • sherry67
    sherry67 Member Posts: 556
    edited July 2013

    Keke713,

    You have to give it alittle time..I have the Hp550 Oval Seintras and swapping for theAllergan 410 640 with a projection of 6.2 which I had 5.8 before ..they do take shape after a period of time..and my right is smaller than left because I had more work done on the right and rad..give it some time..

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2013

    Hi ladies,

    I find it surprising and dissapointing that many doctors don't tell patients about post op expectations...swelling, possibility of odd shaped flat looking breast initially. How they don't move, can feel firm and alien for some time.

    I really wish my ps had explained the fact that implants can take a good 4mth to get the best look, not to stress and be patient, and that revisions can be done if your really not happy.

    I had to come here to be reassured with all my post worries.

    We are all too excited to get rid of our expanders, we often don't think to ask lots of questions. It would have saved me lots of anxiety knowing what to possibly expect.

    Lucky we have the sisterhood. X

  • Virgilia
    Virgilia Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2013

    Hi Liz,

    Your 410s should not have upper pole fullness at all. It may be due to the pocket being to small pushing the implant upward. With my 410s one side was much tighter and firmer with the upper pole definition. A very tight fake feeling breast, the other was a softer more natural feeling.

    PS said he needed to revise, loosen pocket to allow it to sit lower.

    If you need this done, they should then feel softer, as it won't be squashed in too tight a place.

    I must say I was taken aback with the firm fixed immobile feeling of reconstructed breasts initially. Not much give. Hubby found the tight one fake and unnatural feeling.

    Form stable implants (gummies) are supposed to be the most beneficial at maintain the shape, and are supposed to get softer over a year or so.

    I found my 410s too wide and the projection didn't quite match the width. Flattish. I swapped for anatomical Mentor CPG, a rounder looking implant. Change over surgery was an easy recovery again, no drains.

    The regular round silicone implants would be softer and more pliable if your 410s don't settle to you liking. Good Luck, I feel for you being single and facing such a change in body image.

  • momto7
    momto7 Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2013

    My ps said the gummies are heavier I go see him on the 30 th to decide  on what kind we are useing my surgery is Aug 7th  I have been doing some reading   up on them when I had felt them they did not really seem heavier than the  sailine  ones  I need to see then again  damn I hate decisions at times lol  but want to make the best one

  • mkildare
    mkildare Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2013

    I'm a week and a half out from exchange, with Allergan gummy 410's 655 cc's. I don't notice any strange heaviness & I am petite. If anything, the amount that I do feel makes them feel more real, because natural breasts are supposed to hang down a bit. Since they are anatomically shaped, it is true that you won't have excessive upper pole fullness like that of a round implant stuck up higher on your chest. But, I think with the right size/style and a PS who knows what they're doing placing them properly, you will still get a nice shape from top to bottom. I still have upper fullness and cleavage w/mine. I admit that a day after surgery, when I peaked, I thought they looked flat & weird, but I think this just happens in the beginning when your wrapped tight or something. They have definitely filled out since then & are developing a nice shape. They have also softened tremendously & I can squish them together, whereas right after surgery they were hard & imobile. My skin has been really itchy too so I know it must be stretching. I'm guessing that in a few months (which is how long my PS said to give it) they will only continue to feel more natural. I think it's a matter of personal preference. I wanted to be bigger, but naturally looking big & not fake boob looking big. I never liked the look of my TE's poking out too high from under my shirt, with the outline of my breast practically right under my collarbone. I certainly didn't want that look permanently in an implant either! Perhaps everyone's bodies take to the gummies differently, but the same holds true for the rounds. You just have to weigh the pros & cons of each and decide what you really want. With either one you're taking a chance on the final outcome.

  • momto7
    momto7 Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2013

    Hi mkildare thanks for your answer i really liked the  gummies when I saw them and thought they would look great i am not getting TE's  he said i have enough skin to work with and i have lost a lot of weight since November  since my bmx the ones i looked at were the Natrelle ones from Allergan I saw the sommth one and the textured one  I really liked the gummies i will be discussing them with him when I go back

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    Momto7 are you small stature and getting small implants?  I'm surprised to hear you won't have a TE -- that means you're having a one-step, which generally means a very small implant because it isn't the skin that is the issue -- it's the muscle.  The TE is placed to stretch the muscle under which the implant must go. This is true no matter what kindof implant you choose.

    Mkildare I responded to your post on another thread... I agree one of the great things about the gummy is the nice slope in the upper pole.  I have no step off at all.  I think the shape adjusted somewhat over time in the first few months post-exchange but, really, my guess is that was mainly to do with a little post-surgical swelling (which is basically what I posted on the other thread). 

  • momto7
    momto7 Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2013

    No I am 5ft 5 and weigh 220 lbs I have lost 50 lbs since my bmx  and my bra size before was a 44c. the PS had said that he would  talk to me more this tuesday when he orders them thanks for the info that will be another question to ask him and i do have a list lol

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