Starting Chemo July 2013
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Ok girls, strange, troubling symptom! My ankles and lower legs are swelling (edema). Of course I was on my feet much of the day, but...
Soaking in the tub right now (yes, with my iPad - "Danger, Will Robinson, danger!"), then to bed with my feet propped above my heart. If it's not better in the morning I guess I'll make a phone call
On a brighter note, got my Neulasta shot this afternoon and haven't had the slightest sensation of bone or muscle pain! Hoping it's the Claratin at work
BabyRuth, hate you're having to delay your treatment! But it's important you're treated with the best possible drugs snd regimen - hang in there!!! I understand though, since patience is NOT one of my virtues ;-) -
Hey Everybody, just checking in. I know some of you are starting or have just started getting your treatments, hope your all doing well! I'm thinking about you!
BabyRuth, so sorry for your delay, that is so frustrating. It seems the unknown is the worst.
Mellie, I love snorkeling, do it! I wish I lived somewhere that I could do it, I do live near the ocean, which I love, but we are too far north the water is too dark to snorkel. Too cool too don't think there is much to see either.
JeriGrace, good advice, leaning on friends, i have a lot of really good ones that are willing to help. Hopefully we will both have a lot of good days though and not need too much help. I do agree with you about wanting to do everything we can do kill this disease, I am feeling better about everything than I was yesterday, it is all just so surreal.
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Hi everyone. My 1st chemo was 7/11. The hardest part has been fatigue. Days 2 & 3 I hardly got off the couch. After that it got slowly better, but even by day 7 I needed to rest after being out doing errands for just an hour. If the fatigue gets worse with each treatment I'm worried that I wont have any good days between treatments! I'm curious to hear if side effects after the second treatment are similar or worse than the first.
Even though I had some nausea and constipation it didn't get too bad before the meds did their job. I had no appetite for a few days, but made sure I ate a little every couple of hours and drinking lots of fluids. The only real surprise has been a yeast infection. A friend suggested starting a probiotic to help with all the digestive issues. Sounds like a good idea. Has anyone tried that? -
Port placement left me with 2 "wounds" covered with surgical glue. My neck wound hurts and makes swallowing difficult. Anyone know how long this lasts?
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I would love to have some input about working during chemo. I start Monday with TC - 4 cycles every 3 weeks. I am a 3rd grade teacher and usually by this time in the summer I start going in to get my classroom ready. The students return on August 13th; my 2nd treatment is August 12th. I am extremely fortunate to work in a district that has unlimited sick leave. I was off all of the month of May for my surgery, returning only on the last day to say goodbye to my class. I could get a long-term sub and take off until my chemo treatment is finished if I felt I needed to. Everyone keeps telling me I should take care of myself and not worry about working. Just not sure if I can do this. The first few weeks are so important in a classroom as far as establishing routines and expectations and developing relationships. I can't imagine not being there. But I am also no spring chicken (60 years old) and teaching on a regular day can be so exhausting, let alone adding in chemo fatigue. I could also do an on and off schedule like 2 weeks off and one week on.
I know that I will know more about how I'll feel physically in the next two weeks but I need to start making arrangements. This is really weighing on me. If you had the luxury of not working during chemo, would you do it? -
Jerigrace,
I worked through the first time, through my surgery recovery, chemo and rads only taking the minimal time I needed. I had some rough days, but it was possible and I felt better than I expected to. However this time I decided not to try to be so heroic. I am taking a financial hit, but I decided that this is the rainy day ive been saving for. I wanted to see how I do with chemo before making any commitments and so far, not so good. Its all i can do to keep food in the house and take care of my son. I think if I could get some energy and motivation I would be happier working because I am bored out of my mind.
I think the big question you need to ask yourself is not how will you feel, because everyone is different. You can't predict that. The question is what will make you happy? What will feed your soul? Does the idea of working stress you out? Does the idea of not working make you sad?
One thing that really helped me make the decision to take the time I need is my director shared with me that his wife had ovarian cancer twice, and she took disability because her job was too demanding. He encouraged me to take the time I need and that the work would be here when I return. I don't know why, but it helped so much to have "permission" to take care of myself. I don't know why I feel so guilty about not working. I have disability coverage. I can afford it. I'm single, so there is no one else I need to explain this to. My job is safe. -
Hi Lark - I think it's different for everyone, and while I've heard each treatment gets a bit tougher, it's also been suggested to me to get up and move, even with the fatigue (take a short walk and get some fresh air, do small chores, etc.). Tomorrow is day #3 for me, and so far I've had minimal SEs - except now I've got swollen ankles and lower legs!!! Maybe from being out and about on my feet all day??? Hang in there
Jnprsn - I, too, was shocked by he weirdness of he port placement. For the first few days, every time I laughed or made a face that required my neck to stretch I felt it in my upper incision. I was upset b/c I was doing so well with my post-mx range of motion, and felt it was a set back! Much better now, a week out, but I still have pain over the top of my actual port when I stretch my chest too much!
JeriGrace - I think working or not through this is a very personal decision. I agree with Marsha's advice to take care of you first, but I know several teacher friends who've not missed a day, and who've said working kept them sane and took their minds off being "sick" (one was a h.s. teacher, and one 5th grade). The one thing I'd be wary of is the high potential for infection, especially during your nadir for WBCs. I've just switched from h.s. to college, and my onco said he'd rather I NOT go into the schools and supervise middle grades student teachers- part of my new job I was looking forward to! So I'd suggest you put a cleanliness plan in pace, with lots of handwashing, sanitizer bottles, tissues, etc., and mnimize bodily contact with the little ones (SO tough to do!). I AM going to try to teach my classes as best I can, and my first day with students is also day 2 after a treatment. I'm fortunate, like you, to have been offered some flexibility, but DON'T have the luxury of sick days now (left behind over 60 of them when I switched careers). Maybe you could think about working part-time? If your school can get a long-term in and you can go in 2-3 days a week to get to know your kids for when you return??? Again though, it's important to do what makes YOU happy, and NOT stressed out during chemo
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4:50 AM and I'm wide awake - haven't really been able to sleep all night. Chemo starts today at 10 AM. I suppose its anxiety. Figure I'll probably be sleeping more after treatment today. Today is also my wonderful hubby's 50th birthday - he's spending it with me @ chemo! I tried to drink plenty of water yesterday. Onco gave me several prescriptions but told me not to fill them & just to bring them to chemo (said they might fill some right there) - does this seem right? I don't need 2 take anything pre-chemo? Other than wearing a shirt that makes accessing the port easy - anything else I should know? A co-worker of my sisters gave her some lidocaine cream to give me to put on port area an hour before chemo - thinking I should call chemo nurse to confirm this is ok? Any other advice?
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Thank you Rambo50 , it wasn't as bad as I thought . Feeling foggy , fatigued , and have terrible headache. Today I use the neulasta inj , was told to take advil only prior . This is not easy but I pray we win this war with minimal SE and no permanent reaction .
Wishing you breeze through this !
Soriya , I had an IV 1st time port sore and very bruised . Took 3 nurses and 4 sticks to access . Wishing you health!
Mellie289 thank you , my thought and prayers go out to all of you . -
LanaM , praying for you . Good luck !
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Nocompromises - I went in yesterday for my "nurse check" (it was day 7 after my 1st A/C cycle). My white blood cells were 0.2 also. And I had the Neulasta shot the day after my 1st cycle. She said it's perfectly normal, but to wash even more frequently, use sanitizer, and avoid crowds/sick people/grocery carts, etc... I told her I live with 2 petri dishes - my daughters who are 6 and 2 1/2 years old! It's hard to avoid them
I've felt healthy and strong all week. It was a bummer to hear news that something was low. It's hard to hear there isn't anything you can do to be proactive to boost it up either. She said the Neulasta should take care of it - but why hasn't it in 7 days?! I just don't want one round delayed. I want this over ASAP.
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LanaM, The only thing I did pre-chemo was water, Claratin (for the Neulasta on dy 2), and Emla cream/lidocaine 1hr before to numb the skin above my port.
Momx2, Tylenol has generally helped with my headaches (they're not too bad). I've NOT had any real fatigue yet??? Waking up to day 3, after another restless night.
Anniej76, I'm curious what I'll be next Wed too! Hopefully you'll bounce back quickly!!!
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Lynn - I went for lymphedema risk assessment on Tuesday and the physical therapist did mention swelling in the arms and legs is a symptom of chemo! Not one of seen listed places.
I would think based on the suggestions for lymphedema you should be careful about having a hot bath to try to ease that. She told me to avoid hot tubs and hot baths because heating up the body core means that fluid could move to the periphery (arms and legs) trying to cool down the body. Again, this was for lymphedema, so I'm extrapolating here, but I think the advice might apply.
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Thanks, Mellie! I knew that, but just really enjoy my warm soak ;-) Swelling has gone down quite a bit this morning (I elevated my legs last night), and I did put a call in to the onco. She mentioned compression stockings (YUCK), and we'd just watch for now since there's no pain. I also got a call from my breast health navigator yesterday about going in for a lymphedema assessment - think I might have to take her up on it!!!
Just an update for the morning of my Day #3:
I now understand "fatigue"!!! Not feeling bad really, just a bit shaky and weak. Have had some brief, minor moments of pain in my lower back (Neulasta?), but not bad at all
Hope everyone has a great day!!! My best to those of you starting your chemo today! -
I'm a week out from my port placement and first chemo. The port was sore for the first four days and then I realized it was the bandaging doing a lot of the pulling. I took them off and found out I had an allergic reaction to the tape and was breaking out in blisters. I put some cortisone cream on the patches and that helped immensely. I was pretty fatigued the first three days with a sore throat and chills one day but am getting around a lot better now. The nausea is still hanging in there. I was started on compazine and that just didn't cut it. When I switched to zofran it was a lot better but I still get nauseated after I eat or drink. It's getting better day by day. I have a weak stomach in the best of times. I go Mon. for my first blood test.
I just found out that I'm scheduled for a meeting with the PS after my next chemo. I haven't even decided whether I'm having a lumpectomy, mx or dmx. How did you decide what to do? My CS says its up to me. I thought I'd have more time and maybe this is just a meeting to lay out the options. Help!
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Anniej76, I had A/C with a Neulasta shot to follow as well. (A week and one day ago) So now i am really curious what my WBC count is. My onc hasn't said anything about them checking mine. I am worried because like you have 2 young children at home. I haven't been letting them stay the night with people or go a lot this summer cause i am scared they will bring something home to me.
And this morning i woke up with a sore throat. Does anyone know if this is a side effect of chemo or should i be worried i am getting sick? I haven't done any type of mouth rinses (biotene or salt water, etc)
Rambo50- I am glad to hear your swelling has went down. And get you some rest. ((hugs)) -
Mellie289, for me it was hard to say which days in the first week were better/worse since different issues came up and it depends on how well i slept the night before. If it were me, I probably would prefer to rest the day on and after the treatment, as i slept quite a bit those days (the steroid didn't affect my sleep too much either). Maybe you can check with your MO if you start on, say Friday, and see how things go for you, and then if needed switch to a Monday or Wednesday, would that be a big problem -- that will give you some flexibility in figuring out what your own responses are like.
Sweetheartin TX, hope everything is fine. My heart racing only happens a few times randomly, and seems to have gone these days (knock on wood).
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SweetheartinTX, I had just the beginnings of a sore throat a couple of times days 1 and 2, but quickly did a Biotene rinse. I'm also using the spray to keep my mouth moist - so far, so good!
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Grace, I would think it will be a meeting to discuss different surgical options. At this point, there is no way to know just how successful your chemo will be. My chemo (a/c x 4 @ 3 wk intervals) almost totally wiped out the two large tumors I had, leaving mostly just a need for mopping up. So my surgeon just did a lumpectomy, took samples to run through pathology, checked the margins where the tumors had been, and pulled out that lonely little 3mm residual cancer bit from what had been the larger of the two tumors. Also, a SLNB biopsy was clear. The mastectomy option was dropped. I'm at the last of my rads now, just 4 boosts to go, and I will be turned loose for a month or two (which in itself is scary).
Good luck in your treatment. You can beat this.
Carol
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Hi Ladies
Well I wish I had had my partially erupted wisdom tooth out years ago now
..anniej76 . They say u r most likely to get infections from yourself .
.. I popped into dentist today (day #9) .. After 18holes of golf. Cos I was fed up with my gum swelling/pain ... Yay on top of everything and exactly at my WBC nadir aparently I have pericoronitis ( oh joy). I am on prophylactic amoxicillin and paracetamol to try and avoid a full blown infection. Thank goodness for the biotene and salt water washes or I reckon I would be in a much worse way
I have a second WBC test tmrw ( was always planned) interesting to see if it has started to go up or whether my 0.2 has dropped to nothing
Apart from that I feel fine and would never know I have no immune system. Scary what we don't know is going on in our own bodies.
Roll on day #10 surely it is all up from here. Oh no wait a minute next week I get to loose my hair. Chemo is the gift that just keeps on giving ... Be worth it in the end though))
Night all from the land of AUS. Xx -
I received a call back from my nurse and she told me to start doing the salt and baking soda rinses but she is also calling in a prescription rinse for me. So hopefully this will be the end to sore throat for me.
Thanks for all the input ladies.
I am a week and 2 days past my first chemo and I actually feel pretty good today. I had enough energy to go through my pantry and get rid of all unwanted/expired stuff.
Oh and yesterday I went to my plastic surgeon and got expanded another 120cc's. For a grand total of 240cc's so far. I actually look like I have boobies again. -
Sweetheart, glad you're getting some relief for your mouth and that you're having a "good" day!
Nocompromises, hate that about your wisdom teeth
I had my teeth checked before starting treatment, but wouldn't be surprised if some of my expensive dental work doesn't give me trouble before this is all over! Hang in there
I'm experiencing significant soreness all over my body right now - achy to the touch (Neulasta?) - and finally understand "chemo fatigue"!!! Here's my blog rant on the topic: Day 3 and I Feel Like Cooper... or So THIS is "Chemo Fatigue!"
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Nocomprimises,
i too wish i would have done the same with mine. I had one removed about 3 years ago but i still have the one on the left side of my mouth. And it isn't bothering me right now but no one ever told me i should have gotten my teeth looked at before chemo. I hope it doesn't decide to start bothering me within the next 6 months. -
Babyruth, sorry about the confusion on the Her2. I hope they can get it straightened out and maybe you want to have a second opinion on that pathology just to make sure. I used two hospitals for pathology and it was kind of surprising how they differed.
JeriGrace, I think Marsha said it well. After my surgery I took off minimal time because I just wanted some part of the day to feel normal, and I felt myself at work. So I was planning on doing the same with chemo. As it turns out, I am not very functional for many days after chemo. My jos is very high energy and the new project I would have been working on is very high profile and non-routine. I could not have given it 20% some days much less 100%. The other thing is, I went back to work after my first incidence of cancer, and I was tired all the time for months. I would rather take the time to heal myself this time and concentrate on my health and fighting this thing 100% instead of operating on fumes.
Nocompromise, sorry about your mouth issue. I hope you can get through without further incident. My WBC dropped from 11.8, which is actually high, to 1 the first time. But by week 3, I was back up to 6 after the Neulasta shot two weeks earlier.
Rambo, I get muscle pain head to toe from the chemo. Feels like someone is twisting my muscles up with a torture device. The Neulasta pain was a little different and more joint/bone than muscle and in the deep lower spine/hip. Second time I do not seem to (yet) have the Neulasta pain, but still have that awful muscle pain.
I also had some heart pounding this time on day 2 and 3. I hope that is nothing to worry about. I will have to remember to askl the doc about that.
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Just wanted to touch base and say my 1st chemo today went well - no SE's yet (knock on wood!). I did have a blood clot in the port again so they had to clear that again. I was a little worried with a blood clot in it just 2 days ago & another already today, but the chemo nurse didn't seem worried at all. I go in Monday for my shot & I'm going to start Claritan tonight due to all the suggestions on that. And keeping track of the meds oh my - I feel like a pharmacy! LOL I thought I was going to have a real issue @ pharmacy because we went 2 pick up several prescriptions and he said they couldn't fill one of them until Monday and of course it was the Emend - I said that's not acceptable I need that one for nausea! 2 or 3 discussions later & after having my onco nurse talk to pharmacist they called around & found a place with 2 pills for me for the weekend! Hoping everyone is doing well!
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Hi Ladies! Finally home from my first chemo. NOT at all as bad as I thought. They gave me a shot of lidocaine on my port, it still hurt, but just a little. I don't want to try it without it. :-)
They gave me Emend, Aloxi and decradon (sp)...no benadryl, no avtivan...which I'm gald because I don't like benadryl, makes me feel foggy/hungover the next day, never had ativan, but doc gave me xanax to take if needed.
Tomorrow is Neulasta day, I hope the Claritan works!
I feel like a ticking time bomb, hyper-sensitive to any and all body changes, driving myself crazy already! lol nurse said day three is usually the day side effects start hitting. Picked up Zofran on the way home. I'll be taking that for sure!
I hope everyone is doing well.
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I feel exactly every thing you said thank you so much for your encouragement.
Gma04 -
Hi Ladies, Had my port done this morning. So uncomfortable and sore right now. Took one Aleve for pain earlier. I hope this soreness go away soon.
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Lark after my first treatment I got a yeast infection. I never used the MEDS they sent me because I started rinsing with a squirt bottle every time I used the potty. It worked .Also get on probiotics 50 million one a day it works for indigestion. I will have my next and 2nd infusion
WED. WILL LET YOU KNOW. How it goes.
Hugs from TEXAS
GMA04 -
GeriGrace.
You need to be good to your self. If you can afford it stay home and pamper your self and get your self well. That's my 2 cents LOL
GMA04
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