who follows you long term and how long?

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proudtospin
proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972

I am getting close to the end of my 5 years and curious as to this.  My BS still orders my mamo, she gets the results but unless a question, I do not visit her. She says she is there if something happens and would be my surgeon (she is hard to get into these days as a new patient)

I do get followed by my MO who has been doing blood tests and scribing my aromasin.  Currently I see her every 6 months. I know dif docs work differently but who is the person who is doing your long term followup and who would you yell help to if something came up?  

I stopped seeing the RO at the end of radiation but he also said, he is there if I need him.

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  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    sorry, I had DCIS grade 3

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited July 2013

    Hi Proud to Spin,

    That's an excellent question.  I am mainly followed by the BS, because I am (for now) forgoing the hormonals, so no MO.  I just saw the RO in follow-up (rads finished end of February).  When she found out I wouldn't be seeing the BS until June, she said come back to her in January.  I was surprised and pleased.  I thought that the RO wouldn't feel the need to follow me further, but she did do a breast exam and ask lots of questions. I feel good being followed, at least a little bit.  The visit in June is actually scheduled with a nurse practitioner, but in the BS office, so if there is a problem, the surgeon is available.  By the way, how has the Aromasin been treating you?  I'm still thinking about it. 

    About imaging follow-up, that seems so individualized also.  I'm only on yearly follow-up (for mammo/sono only), except when there is a problem.  So, at my first yearly, they recommended a stereotactic biopsy (benign, thankfully) and I have a 6 month follow-up on that side only.  There is no plan for any MRI at all. Unlike getting anxious like some do, I think of all of these visits almost like psychotherapy for the soul, to help us assuage our anxiety over the long term.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    Well for the first 3 years, they had me doing 6 month mamos, did have one oops where they insisted on a biopsy but all fine.  Now I am on yearly mamos again.

    the aromasin has been treating me fine actually.  I did initially blame it for some leg pains but it turned out to be not from the AL but from a ding dong statin med.  Switched that and no problem

    however, I have been a gym rat and working with a trainer from the end of rads till now.  I think that has made a difference, how knows?  no achies or pains.

    I guess the idea of someone not checking me out regular like, makes me...nervous?  I see the MO in Sept and the aromasin is set to end in Dec so that is why I am questioning others.  

    If they want you to do the AL, do not be afraid as it really has not been an issue for me

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited July 2013

    Hi Proud and Ballet, interesting responses!  I am seeing my RO every 6 months, for 5 years, and I think she said yearly after that, forever?  I am sure she will be the one ordering my diagnostic tests.  I am currently seeing my BS once/year, but I think he may discharge me after 2 years.  I don't have an MO because I am ER-negative.

    I have a yearly mammogram (which is now, just as it always has been, uninformative as I have very dense breast tissue), and I am getting an MRI every 6 months because of a suspicious lesion on my good side.  My initial diagnosis was based on finding a palpable lump and then ultrasound (although they also found lots of clusters of microcalcifications as well in the mammogram, but mainly because they did a diagnostic mammogram, and the extra views found them).  

    I guess when my 5 years are up I will ask my RO about what her suggestion about imaging would be -- and I am hoping that they soon quit looking at my "good side" with MRI :). The radiologist thinks I should get yearly MRI, regardless, and I am not sure how I feel about that right now.

    I can imagine that lack of follow-up would make you nervous, I have a few years to cross that bridge, so right now, it just seems time-consuming :)

    Cheers!

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited July 2013

    Good to hear from you, BLinthedesert, I think I will eventually be transferred to nurse practitioners (whom, I'm sure are wonderful) for both the breast surgeon (already will happen this coming year) and the radiation oncologist.  But, then again, I'm treated at Memorial Sloan Kettering, and they can't really have long-term patients hanging around with such a demand for their services.  The place is also run very efficiently, so it's much more cost efficient for us to see the nurse practitioners. I am assured that if there are acute problems, the senior attendings will be involved again.  So, interesting that your long-term follow-up will be with the RO.  Mine is so wonderful, I wish I could do that, but I can say the same for the surgeon.  MRI's are truly a mixed blessing, so I agree with your ambivalence about it.

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited July 2013

    I love nurse practioners.  In general, I think they are even a little more conservative, so you might be more apt to find things on the early side.  Plus, they seem to have a little more time to listen to you :).  MSK is such a great place, it just draws some of the best clinicians in the world.  

    Here's for 50 more years of boring follow-up :)

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited July 2013

    My last mammogram with my BS was this past April. He said I am now on a yearly schedule and will probably see his assistant. No worries with that but my ONC was surprised he has me on an annual schedule given I am 2 1/2 years out. Still have to see her every 6 months from what I understand for 3 years so my next visit with her should be my last 6 months and I will be then going for yearly appts. I think my go to person would be my ONC but I would be comfortable calling my BS too. Havent seen my RO since my last Rads - he also told me he was available if I needed him. I know they all probably say that but I really like my doctors and I wouldnt hesitate to call any of them. diane

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited July 2013

    Oh and by the way I am Stage 2, Grade 1. Had lumpectomy and 33 RAds treatments and currently on Tamoxifen.  diane

  • redsox
    redsox Member Posts: 523
    edited July 2013

    I think this is an interesting question.  For IDC patients who had chemo it seems automatic that the MO is the primary long term doc.  

    For DCIS it is unclear. I am taking tamoxifen and see the MO every 6 months.  I also see the RO once a year. I haven't seen the BS since a few months after surgery.  Although both cover all the concerns, the MO clearly thinks mostly about systemic issues while the RO thinks about local/regional.  The MO orders blood work and the RO orders imaging.  If I want to discuss a particular question the best person to ask breaks along those lines.  

    When I finish tamoxifen I expect the MO visits to go down to no more than once a year but I hope to keep up with both.  The good news is that my risk is low but the bad news is that it continues on past 5 years. I don't think that milestone means much for me or should make much difference in the follow-up.

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited July 2013

    Proudtospin, thanks for your vote of confidence in the Aromasin, especially if one is very active.  I'm not quite a gym rat (dance is my thing--aka "ballet").  I guess you like spinning as one of your activities, right?  Good luck with the fine year milestone and beyond.  We still need cancer specialists following us, if at all possible, although I have read that some are followed by their primary care doctor after the five year point.  As Red Sox stated, the risk continues past five years.

    And yes, Edwards and Red Sox, DCIS is sometimes followed a little bit differently from IDC, although many DCIS patients are on hormonal therapy (maybe most who are ER positive), so they would be followed by the MO.  If I choose that route, I'll initially be followed by the MO for a few visits to get started, and then I'll have a nurse practitioner for medical oncology. I'm just glad that I have everything in one place, and have a loosely organized team.  I'm sure if I had a complicated case, they'd be talking with each other, but they don't really need to in my situation.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited July 2013

    My situation is different both because I'm in Canada and because I was treated at a cancer-only hospital.  So like ballet12's situation at MSK, the surgeons and MOs at my hospital just don't have the time to continue to see patients well past the end of their treatment - at least not those who are not on any medication and who are so very low risk (I know that they do see patients with more advanced diagnoses for 5 years). My BS saw me every 6 months for 2 years.  I only saw my MO twice; he was willing to continue to see me, but since I wasn't on Tamoxifen or any other treatment, I didn't see the point in wasting his time.  So at two years I was turned over to my family doctor, but with 2 strict instructions:  First, I was told that I should continue to get all my screenings that their hospital, so that the radiologist reviewing my images would have the history of my diagnosis and so that my BS and the MO would be able to immediately access the images and reports should there ever be a need.  Second, I was told that I should be getting annual mammos and MRIs, alternating every 6 months, and that I should continue with that for as long as the radiologist felt it was necessary for me to have MRIs (7+ years later, she still does).  I passed that information along to my family doctor, and he agreed and since then has provided all the requisitions.

    After my last MRI, I had a situation that required follow-up. I talked to my family doctor first, who contacted my oncologist's office and set up an appointment for me (in Canada you always need a referral for a specialist unless you are an on-going patient).  When I went for the appointment, I was pleased to find out that even though it was 6 years since I'd last seen him, the hospital and my oncologist's office treated me as an existing / current patient - no new forms to fill out or anything like that.  And all my records and reports and images were current and available for the MO to access.  Fortunately everything worked out fine and hopefully I don't have to see the MO again.

    Anyway, all that to say that personally I think that the doctor who manages your long term follow-up doesn't really matter, so long as you get all the tests and checks you need, and so long as you have immediate access to your BS or MO, should there be a problem. As to who to yell to, I think that depends on the nature of the concern and who you feel is more appropriate to address it. 

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    it sure is interesting how dif we all are followed.  My next appt is with my MO in Sept, my AL plan is to stop in Dec.  Guess it will be part of the conversation as to who and how to follow up.  My primary care doc is sweet but I had to change my primary doc about 2 years ago due to insurance changing so not real sure I want her to do the cancer followup.  She is good but just not sure on all of this.

    Good luck to us all and may none of us have a reoccurance~

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2013

    What an interesting thread!

    I'm only 6 months out and no one has told me much before the next time I need to see them, but for now it seems to be 6 months for the RO, BS, and MO (they are trying to stagger so I don't have all of them at once), and the BS said she would be "keeping an eye on" me for "a long time" - don't know what that means, but for the first 2 years, it's mammo's on the cancer side every 6 months, with the good side done yearly.

    I am on Tamoxifen, so I assume I'll see the MO until I am done with that, but he refuses to commit to a particular length for that either - it's more like "take it until I see you again and we'll talk then".    The RO, I have no idea but I adore him, so am hoping that my next appointment with him in October isn't the last one - of the three, he's the one I'd most like to be followed up by, LOL.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    Annette, gee you seem to be on the same plan as me.  I live in NJ also, MacManus is my BS but my MO is up north in Hackensack.  Maybe it is the Jersey plan~~

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2013

    Proudtospin - LOL at the Jersey plan!

    I went with Dultz as the surgeon and the rest through the Princeton-Plainsboro system .... 

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    Annette, I have heard good things about your team so heres wishing you a 5 year celebration and more!

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2013

    Awww .... thanks so much!!!

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