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  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    Lin, thank you for the encouragement.  At this point (20 of 28) I needed a pep talk.  

    SLV, does your RO not give you anything?  Mine looks at my skin each wednesday and will give me whatever it is she wants me to use (currently squeezing the end of the biafine lotion tube).

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited July 2013

    GWTF, I see my RO on Fri. so I will definately tell him about mad nip! Last fri I told him about lump in throat, which he said was from rads, but should go away. Sat. I woke up with sore nipple. He also doesn't believe in special creams or even rx creams! He said to use glaxol or unscented lubriderm, so we'll see what he says if my skin breaks down. I am using emu oil against his advice not to use anything with oil.

  • Cozzoli
    Cozzoli Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Good Morning! So glad for all the helpful advice on this thread. Today will be #17 of either 30 or 33 and, in the last few days, the game seems to have changed. Still facing each day with smiles, "who, me? I'm doing great!", but more of my smiles are fake these days. :) <- that one is real.
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    Since this is a safe place to vent: Not quite the same, energized positive person I was when I started. Headaches, irritable and sore. I have found that light cardio classes helped quite a bit with fatigue, but now the motivation to get to class is harder to find. Getting to gym not quite 6 days a week, more like 4. Can anyone share if daily exercise really did help them through the slump weeks? Are the last weeks slump weeks?



    GoWithTheFlow's quote "how can we sleep while our breasts are burning" is now so true. Paula-what is a bolus? Using MiaDerm and Aloe, graduated to RX Cortisone, too. RO says new study came out last week on a steroid cream for rads which she will RX if still scabby and sore by end of week. I'm 100% Irish, we knew the skin reaction would be coming. It sucks, but is bearable. (and temporary....)



    Sharon, I hope your skin stays stays comfortable. Use your lotions and potions.



    Shari, I can get MiaDerm at local pharmacy and mail to you in Canada.



    Nyama-yes, can feel slight prickles, too. Tech said not unusual. Seems like, "not unusual" is something I hear a lot in this whole BC process.



    Feeling so lucky to have just rads, admiring the warriors who tackle much tougher treatments.



    CT scan today of "cavity"...



    Be strong ladies!

  • Curlysue50
    Curlysue50 Member Posts: 22
    edited July 2013

    Has anyone with axillary lmph node dissection had rads in the area, and has it caused lymphedema?

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Hi Cozzoli, yep this is the place to vent, for sure. I am just half way through rads today so I cant say much but exercise does seem to help so far and as an added plus it releases the proteins called chemokines and growth factors that help the skin grow (and new skin stem cells to migrate in to the damage). That is what is keeping me on my feet anyway. I agree it would be easy to slump!!!



    I am just trying to go to bed earlier. Everything that I "really need to get done" can wait a few weeks (well except dishes, uck).



    Curly Sue I had 24 axillary nodes out and, at the risk of jinxing myself, can say that I dont have edema.....yet. It can happen at any time of course. My aunt had a horrible case with her breast cancer treatment so I have been wary. I am only halfway through rads of course, but they are definitely nuking the area under my arm.



    Are you having problems or just worried like me?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Thanks, everyone, for the feedback on my "electric boob" feeling.  Now I know I'm not totally crazy!  My last whole-boob zap today and then tomorrow start the 8 boosts.  I get to switch over to the brand new machine my facility recently bought for the boosts, as they finally get rid of the one I've been using.  The one I'm on now works fine (I hope!) but is about 12 years old and they like to have the newest equipment they can.  This new one apparently is very fancy and has lots of features the other didn't so it'll be interesting.

    When I asked the tech what happens to the old one she said they sometimes get sold to facilities in more impoverished developing countries.  She told me that in some of those places the way they have to administer radiation therapy is that there's actually a live radioactive source (like a tube of uranium or something like that) encased in lead with a little door-like thing they raise and shut to expose the patient's cancer to the necessary radiation.  Yikes.  So old Big Bertha the Zapper will soon be a huge improvement for someone.  I'm amost the last patient on this machine since it's her final week.

    Skin is still not bad.  Gets very itchy sometimes but ibuprofen helps somehow.  I've also noticed lately that too much of that aquaphor-hydrocortisone mix aggravates it, like it was clogging the pores or something.  I was itching pretty badly last evening and what made it better was washin it all that stuff off and just applying a little aloe before sleep, and taking my curcumin and a couple of ibuprofen.  I might just stick with the aloe from now on.  We'll see.  When I woke up this morning it was much less pink and barely itchy.  I'm sure it'll get worse, though, as the day goes on.  I've graduated to going almost completely braless since anything rubbing against it will make it itch more--maybe that will help.  No skin breakdown, though, and only a couple of teeny blisters so I'm really doing OK, especially compared to the misery some of you are going through, and so shouldn't even complain.  Just looks like a mild rash. 

    The fatigue sometimes hits hard.  Not every day, but most days in the afternoon.  Cozzoli, if I force myself to work/exercise through it, it does get better.  It's just getting myself to that point where I actually do it when all I want to do is nap.  The last weeks are definitely slump weeks for me!  I did get out with the dragonboat crew three times last week and did sort of OK (though it was a bit difficult energy-wise).    And will be walking around the zoo all afternoon with the grandbabies (two boys, 2 & 3 1/2) so better get over it!

    Keep on keeping on, everyone.  We all will get through this phase.  

    26/34

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Good morning, ladies. I have one more regular treatment and then five boosts. I was hoping to get through with little skin issues, but over the weekend things went crazy. I have bad burns under my arm and a huge blister on my lower breast that just "deflated" overnight. My RO gave me script for Silver sulphur cream for the burns. He also is discontinuing the use of the bolus--which there was only one more treatment that way anyhow. Cozzoli, the bolus is a rubbery pad thing they put on (in my case every other treatment) that is supposed to bring the treatment closer to the skin.

    I am just hoping it doesn't get any worse. Thankfully there is no pain. The burns under my arm look like they should hurt like crazy. But that area has been numb since my surgery. So nerve damage, at least I've got that going for me Smile But I am notice a rough feeling to all of the treated skin. Those of you who are finished, once the boosts begin do things continue to worsen in the fields from the regular treatment?

    Also still happy that my energy level does not seem to be suffering and feel bad for those of you who are experiencing the rads induced fatigue. The YMCA here has program with Livestrong that gives me and my family a free 12 week membership and enrollment for me in a Livestrong program that includes two classes/week. I can't start until I finish rads because the class times are the same time as my treatment. But I am still getting some cardio at least three x/week and that is nice.

    I hope you all have a great day and minimal SEs.

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Curlysue, I had lymphedema before starting rads but it has made it worse unfortunately.

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited July 2013

    My RO said that the bolus brings the radiation to the surface and just below the skin. It fools the machine -- which thinks the bolus is a part of us. I tried to think of it directing the radiation where it is needed, instead of deeper inside me. I don't have much tissue left on my chest after mastectomy so the bolus made sure that that tissue got the most radiation. The side effect is that the bolus tends to increase the skin "burn". I developed some color right away but initially it would fade overnight. I developed radiation rash during week three and it progressed from there. It was painful from week five; before that it was quite uncomfortable but bearable with tender care. I couldn't wear a bra from week three onward. I used Percocet at night and prescription ointments day and night, but never before radiation (which was at 8:20AM for me). My skin continued to worsen through week seven and then improvement began quickly. Now I look like I stayed in the sun too long. The tightness is currently my major problem (uncomfortable, like a vise) so I will see the physical therapist again soon. 

    If you can take some time off work towards the end and immediately after radiation, that would be ideal. I am a teacher so I was lucky to be off work this summer. Since I have a son in his 20's I couldn't really walk around the house topless -- but I did hang out topless, spending a bit of time reading in my chair in my bedroom. My dogs were loyal by my side -- but wondering why mom was such a recluse. I wore loose tops both around the house and out. 

    Some people take a radiation vacation if their skin gets really bad, and return to it weeks later. I was far enough along that I just wanted to finish if at all possible. I hope none of this advice is necessary for any of you new to rads. But hang in there if it gets bad because it gets better very fast. I did have to tell my friends and family that I did not feel like celebrating the day rads was over. I wanted to feel better first. I think they understood when I compared it to having surgery and celebrating the moment you get out of anesthesia. No one does that! If I had minor skin issues an immediate celebration would have been good. I waited a couple of weeks to celebrate and it was so sweet! Smile

    Gentle hugs,

    Linda 30/30 FInished 6/26

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    The RO told me the bolus works as an extra layer of skin. Because the skin over the scar is a bit thinner, the bolus gives an added protection.



    Paula

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2013

    DiZZyMom- Sorry, but for me anyways things did continue to get a lot worse in the regular field. It wasn't the boosts causing it, it was just how the skin breakdown was going to progress. My RO did tell me than my skin could contiue to get worse for 7-10 days after the end of rads.  BUT.....like Linda said...once things start to improve, they improve fast!

    My RO gave me the option of a radiation vacation twice during treatment. But each time we were so close to the end of that phase I opted to continue. I just wanted to get it done.

    Thinking of all of you. Sending healing wishes to all! Remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel even if you are having some really bad skin issues. By the time Linda and I were done I think we had more bandage and mepilex than skin in a lot of areas, but things got better. I really agree with Linda about the pain meds. If you need them, ask for them. I spent almost 3 miserable weeks between when I ran out of my surgery pain pills and when I asked for a new prescription. I was trying to tough it out just using the prescription lidocaine. They were 3 miserable weeks I could have and probably should have avoided. There are no medals given for toughing it out. It is all about getting through it and moving on to the next phase.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    I get #10 of 30 today. I see the RO on Mondays. Yesterday she told me that next week I'll probably be seeing my skin turning pink. So far the skin feels tight most days, but no other SEs. I had a mx with no recon yet. Do others feel that tightness? It isn't painful, just tight like the skin has lost some elasticity.



    Paula

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    My throat feels a little wired today, but it didn't start until just after lunch. I may have tried to swallow too big a bite of French bread. Hopefully that's all it is.

    Does anyone else have a problem with your throat?



    Paula

  • Linda2012
    Linda2012 Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2013

    I had my last chemo on April 11, my lumpectomy with ALND on May 30. I had a bit of cellulitis after surgery but that's pretty much gone now. After all I have been through, treatment-wise, I can't figure out why I am so tense when I go in for my radiation treatments. I made it through DD ACT! Why this should have me nervous I can't figure out.

    I started radiation on July 11. 28 treatments total. I feel a bit "swollen" in the area that is being treated, but nothing else yet. I suspect that will change - I get sunburned easily -but I am using the aquaphor in the evening, Bag Balm in the morning right after treatment. I am going to get some aloe today and add it into the mix. I also wear tank tops (under my clothes) instead of a bra - more comfortable and less expensive to replace if they get stained. I am also going to PT for my arm and shoulder. The range of motion is not good. The exercises and stretches  hurt but I will do them in order to get back to baseline.  I still can't wear some clothing because I can't get in or out of it. I don't want to have to cut my way out! ; )

     I can't wait for this part of my life to be over. I want "normal" again. (at least as normal as a cancer survivor can get!)

  • mfml
    mfml Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2013

    Hello brave women - I haven't visited this group yet but today was my last of 33 rads and I wanted to drop in and encourage all of you.  Over the weekend of the fourth - I had some SERIOUS underarm oozing - but something happened and it has cleared up really quickly.  The last 5 boost treatments were a breeze for me compared to the first half.  I hope you will all heal as quickly as I did from the worst of it.  I know things can still go down hill... but I do think it was around 20-25 that were my worst.  I used a cream called "my girls" day time, aquaphor at night, and then vaseline soaked guaze pads for the really bad week at night.  You can do it - just hang in there!!

    Weird mix of emotions as I rang the bell, though...  I didn't ring the bell after chemo - not sure why.  I had my first real CRY since diagnosis - I have stuffed alot away clearly.  Some of it was the fear of letting go of treatment.  Some of it was wondering what would become of all the friends I sat with every morning waiting for my treatment.  I won't see these people again.  Some of it was joy.  I don't know really.

    Best of luck to you all - you are all so brave and though I don't write on these boards often - I selfishly read them and gather strength.

    M

  • mfml
    mfml Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2013

    Hello brave women - I haven't visited this group yet but today was my last of 33 rads and I wanted to drop in and encourage all of you.  Over the weekend of the fourth - I had some SERIOUS underarm oozing - but something happened and it has cleared up really quickly.  The last 5 boost treatments were a breeze for me compared to the first half.  I hope you will all heal as quickly as I did from the worst of it.  I know things can still go down hill... but I do think it was around 20-25 that were my worst.  I used a cream called "my girls" day time, aquaphor at night, and then vaseline soaked guaze pads for the really bad week at night.  You can do it - just hang in there!!

    Weird mix of emotions as I rang the bell, though...  I didn't ring the bell after chemo - not sure why.  I had my first real CRY since diagnosis - I have stuffed alot away clearly.  Some of it was the fear of letting go of treatment.  Some of it was wondering what would become of all the friends I sat with every morning waiting for my treatment.  I won't see these people again.  Some of it was joy.  I don't know really.

    Best of luck to you all - you are all so brave and though I don't write on these boards often - I selfishly read them and gather strength.

    M

    If this posts twice sorry my computer is whacky tonight!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited July 2013

    Congrats MFML . I am finishing tomorrow. Like you the middle days were the worst but all in all , not that bad. One weird problem though.....a very stiff neck for the last week that won't go away, no matter what. Not sure if it is rads or tamoxifin or something completely different???

    Anyone else?

    Thank you summer rad ladies. On to 35 of 35....



  • ChickaD
    ChickaD Member Posts: 1,025
    edited July 2013

    You ladies all ROCK....I have read for weeks this post and you all truly amaze me...I go for mapping the last Wed of this month.....my last chemo is next week.

    This may sound stupid, did any of you lay in the sun to tan your breast tissue before radiation...would that help toughen the skin up first? 

    Also I think my tx will be in the prone position (laying face down)  anyone else?

    Really getting nervous........

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    Congrats MFML!!!  I've had a few good cries over the last 7 months.  My last one was Friday when I had a meltdown that I didn't want to do rads anymore.  The weekend helped and then I blew off being good yesterday and went with a friend and our kids to an amusement park and water park.  Lost most of my markings for Monday and Today's rads, but I promised them I 'd be good and stay out of the heat today and return tomorrow iwth full markings.

    I think the middle is hard because you start to feel the effects, and you know you are only halfway done and so much can change in a few days.  I'm at 21 of 28 and still worry about what is yet to come.  I know I "overdid" it yesterday being out at the park for 6 hours, although I wore my new one shoulder swimsuit that covered my rad side and wore 50 sunscreen (and did manage to not get too much sun).  today was a bit rough.  Sore from rads, had trouble getting comfortable when I napped this afternoon.  

    Going to see my RO tomorrow and have a good talk about my side effects.  I've been doubling up on my ativan to sleep because I'm gagging on the tylenol PM, and if today was any indication of what's to come, I don't think my vicodin are going to be enough to help me get comfortable in bed (although they are good during the day because I can function on them - but is that a reason to stay with them?)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    I had #10 today. So far the only thing I'm feeling is some tightness and a bit of swelling in the mastectomy area. Has anyone else had this?



    Paula

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2013

    Congrats MFML!

  • TMM60
    TMM60 Member Posts: 190
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations MFML and Lenn13ka! You've reached the end of a very long road!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Congratulations to mfml and Lenn13ka!  

    On to my first boost today!  Wonder how it will compare to the old treatments.  Wonder if I'll still need to hold my breath  Guess I'll soon see!

    Have a good day everyone.

  • Cozzoli
    Cozzoli Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Congrats MFML and Lenn13ka!!! Wishing you all the best- enjoy your freedom from rads appts. Smile

    Paula- I had tightness and the nipple was/is being pulled down towards the lower incision (had partial mast). Check with your doc on what do to. I massage and stretch it every day to avoid additional scar tissue. My incisions still get red and swollen- more some days than others. "not unusual" 

    GoWiththeFlow- I could have written your post- spent 6 hours at Kings Dominion on Sunday. Must have overdid it , as had total meltdown on Monday- crying, yelling, sleeping - just tired of it all. Walmart's brand of Unisom sleep gels, 50 mg, works for me at night. 

    Update on skin product - my skin was blistery, scabby, rashy, warm Yell for about 2 weeks. On Sunday, I started using Hydrocortisone Valerate .2% in addition to MiaDerm and Aloe. Today, the surface wounds are about 80% healed. Still red under surface.  Will keep you posted, but right now the cortisone seems to be a solution. It is a powerful one, so long term use not recommended. 

    ChickaD- Don't be nervous, you will be fine! I don't think you need the sun. Just use your lotions and potions as directed. Back in the day, I laid out topless on vacations and later had a pre-melanoma removed. When caregivers ask how I got freckles on my breasts,  I tell them, "you don't want to know...." Surprised

  • mshelton
    mshelton Member Posts: 66
    edited July 2013

    ChickaDe-- I remember reading that skin that had not previously been damaged by sun might do better thru radiation.  it might have been under the "Treatment and Side Effects" and "radiation" tabs from the homepage of this site.  Maybe you could ask the staff from your RO dept.  

    No problems yet.  only #5 today tho.  Thought I was getting a sore thoat and hoarsness after the first 2 treatments, then realized that I had been using the emergency asthma inhaler before treatment as I was afraid that I couldn't hold my breath long enough.  The throat issues might have been caused by the inhaler as normally i don't use it very often.  

    Congratualtions to all you guys finishing or almost finishing rads.



  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited July 2013

    SLV radiation fried my poor nipple, I'm 4 weeks out today and my nipple is still healing and about 2X the size of the other one.  My incision was at the edge of nipple so thats where the boosts were and it did get worse after the last treatment. One of these things definitely does not look like the other Smile I never got anything except aloe and aquafor but cold compresses helped alot with Aleve.  Cozzoli I have been "blue" lately too, I finished rads and have been really lazy, Ive become a professional slacker.  I dont feel compelled to rush and things can wait as far as I'm concerned which is not like me at all. Hopefully when I see RO today he will clear me to swim and I can start pushing myself to exercise. Dizzymom glad your not in any pain,  I would shut my bedroom door lube up and sit at the computer and do work/facebook so I didn't have to put anything again my breast. MFML and Lenn13 Congratulations! It really is a strange feeling to be done with treatment.  Still dont know what this issue is with lump in the throat.  Maybe allergies?

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited July 2013

    Melody46, I'm sorry to hear about your discomfort, hopefully things will quickly settle down. I had a blue day last sat. My nipple hurt, I was told by the techs not to wear a bra, so every top I put on looked ridiculous with 55 yer old swinging boobies and that made me cry. Then I whacked my foot and lost toenail #2,that definitely made me cry! I almost felt PMS/hormonal, but I haven't had a period since first chemo 6 months ago. I just realized that I'm allowed to feel down once in awhile, so I took a pain med (toe) and went to bed really early. I was fine the next day. I would definitely ask your RO about lump in throat. I noticed this also by my 3rd tx, was assured by techs that my throat was not in the field but had me see RO anyway. He confirmed that rads was causing it, but that most women feel a sore throat more than a lump. He said sometimes a hoarse voice will also present itself and this is all caused by "irritation and should go away". I still feel the lump at tx 9, and will mention it again when I see him fri. Hoping you can start swimming, but don't push yourself too much, you've been through a lot.

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2013

    I have been very blue too. Thought it was the Tamoxifen. I am not normally a cryer, but had a huge crying jag yesterday. I thought this whole thing was kind of winding down and coming to an end, but earlier this week mysteriously I woke up one morning and all the swelling from the surgery and rads was just gone. Normally this would be a good thing. However....now once again my bras don't fit.Cry I am now a D on one side and a B or so on the other. This was the reason for the crying thing.

    Has anyone else developed a cough? I am now almost 3 weeks out from my last boost. I have a cough I just can't get rid of, and my left lung just feels kind of "junky". I do have asthma and this cough has resulted in 2 really serious asthma attacks in the last week. I haven't had attacks this bad since I was a kid. Kind of worried about lung scarring. Going to see my primary care on Friday since you are not supposed to take either of my asthma inhalers if you are taking tamoxifen. She said to use them anyways if I need them until Friday since breathing is pretty important.

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013

    Congrats MFML & Lenn13ka!

    First boost today. I really hope the rest of this mess starts to heal soon. Unlike those of you whose docs are saying your reactions are "not unusual", my RO says the way my skin is burning is very unusual. He said irritation usually occurs in the crease and there is no damage there, but I am getting huge blisters from mid-way on my breast down. He even said maybe I'm reacting to something outside of the rads. Hmmmm, I don't recall doing any topless flamethrowing, so I'm thinking it's the rads!

    Best wishes to those of you just starting, just finishing and in the middle!!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited July 2013

    Congrats on finishing Lenn.

    Today I didn't hear "your skin looks great" from my RO.  Today she pointed out the areas that were starting to break down.  /sigh/  good news is I saw my endocrinologist and she said my synthroid levels are too high right now and we're lowering them and that could be part of my moodiness, crying, etc.  Hoping I feel better in a few days.

    I've been running since this morning (Rads, RO, endo, home, drove son to swim meet, picked up meds, picked up dinner).  Just took pain meds and am heading in for a late nap.

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