Chemo May 2013

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  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2013

    One more question, anyone else having Herceptin with Taxol?  If so, how are the SEs?

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited July 2013

    I'm having hercepten with taxol. I've just had low grade nausea and extreme tiredness. And some of the bone/ muscle pain. On day 2 I have the skin pain too

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Taxol bone and muscle pain are horrible today. I had my second dose yesterday. If it goes according to first time tomorrow I will feel better. Hang in there Momofsam it really is better than the dose dense ac! I am taking b6 b12 and alpha lipoic acid which seems to keep away the neurapathy.



    Lisa

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2013

    Thanks ladies!  Guess the pain is part of the course :)  Lisa - the b6 b12 and allpha lipoic (is this a vitamin type pill?)  Where do you get them?

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    They are vitamins. I got mine at walgreens. An oncology nurse recommended and mo agreed. So far so good!

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2013

    Thanks again Lisa - truly appreciate it!

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited July 2013

    Hi ya all!

    Just checking in. I had my 3rd chemo last Monday (out of 6). Each round has been different for me. Round 1 I was hospitalized during week 2. Round 2 week 3 wasn't all that great so I feel let down since I thought week 3 was suppose to be the week of feeling better. And this round hasn't been all that great week 1. Ugh. My WBC has been wacky and I've been having to give myself Neupogen shots.  My taste buds are totally out of whack. OMG, NOTHING tastes good. Even water makes me want to vomit. What do you all do? Are your rounds all over the place too or are they consistent? My hair is growing back already but we're going to shave it again being that I've heard the first bit that comes in can be quite damaged... And the mouth sores are still a pain in the tush.

    I hope you are all hanging in there.  

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2013

    Hi Mcgis,

    My SE's have been all over the place too. No real pattern, different evey treatment. Over all though...manageable. Guess we have to just hang on to the roller coater until it's over!

    Annie

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Mcgis,

    Sorry there is no pattern for you.

    I know water tasted awful to me for a number of days and I would try anything else instead. Watermelon, cold and juicy. Flavored waters were ok, it depended on the flavor.

    I LOVED the international delight mocha flavored iced coffee, sold in the dairy section of the grocery near me...I put it in the blender with ice. Refreshing on a hot day. I also liked lemon flavored iced tea when I couldn't stand the water. Have you tried soup? Counts as liquid!



    Are you taking antinausea meds? That might help get rid of some bad taste?



    Mouth sores...have you tried baking soda and salt? Equal parts mixed in warm water. Rinse each time you eat, or someone said they rinsed every time they went to the bathroom...whatever works, but frequent seems to be key. If not contact your oncologist and get the prescription for mouth sores.



    I hope you feel better!

    Pat

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Made the baby shower today. Was very shaky when I got there. Had some water, and then some sangria (I should not have done that!).

    Was able to take my 4 mo. Old niece off her mothers hands so she could help throw the shower for her friend. What a joy to hold the little one. She doesn't like to be "still" and won't sleep unless held...so I spoiled that child and rocked her to sleep...I finally had to sit too, I was pooped! Lol. Thankfully she stayed asleep on me. What a great day.



    I am exhausted .

    Pat

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    I CANNOT WAIT FOR COFFEE TO TASTE GOOD AGAIN!



    Lisa



  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    I do believe the SEs are leaving me faster this time! Not nearly as sore today when I woke up & the numb/tingly feet & legs are almost back to normal. Im only a bit achy from ribcage, hips, legs....It's still early, but my mouth isn't as gross as last time....

    I hope I'm not speaking too soon (knock on wood) but maybe this one will give me more good days than bad!

    This round I made a conscious effort to do almost nothing on my bad days but lay around and rest.... No laundry.... No big meals.... Off my feet more than on them & I really think it made a difference. In the past, I've been trying to fight through it all and try to do as many normal activities as I could, but suffered too.

    The hubby has been really good this time too not letting my do things... He's been saying "NO Lorrie... Let me do it!" a lot more...



    And I felt bad yesterday when my girls and fam came over for brunch... Right after we ate, I excused myself to bed... (a first EVER!)... but they all understood.



    Pat, I'm glad you had a good time at the shower... Nothing like a baby sleeping on you to make you sleepy.. Haha



    I hear ya about the coffee, Lisa.... I drink it anyway, but can't wait till I have a little creamer with my coffee instead of a little coffee with my creamer!





    Hope everyone else is doing well... & have a great week!

    Happy thoughts!

    Lorrie



  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Lorrie,

    Great news! Can you send your hubby my way, I would LOVE to hear "No Pat...let me do it!"



    Today I get rid of the hubby and 3 kids, while they go visit my mother in law in Rhode Island til Friday.

    While I try to do this once a year and I get to "clean like a demon" I am not looking forward to it this year. I have already started cleaning...and by that I mean going through papers and sorting all sorts of "stuff" and picking up things. Not even an hour and I am done!



    I need to whip this place into shape, I am picking up my mom from Pennyslvania and she is the "queen of comments". She still doesn't know I have done chemo...I guess the cat might be out of the bag when I pick her up! Lol

    Mom can trip over her own two feet, so I have to be especially diligent to make sure there is nothing she can trip or tangle in, and trust me, if she can find a way to do it she will, I feel like I am baby proofing for a one year old when she is 75!



    So I've got this place to clean, the trip to PA so I can get her packed up and no doubt clean there, the trip back to here, unpack mom and then a trip To Rhode Island to visit there.



    Was so hoping to have the energy level in high gear for the nonsense....maybe I should go take a nap when the hubby and kids finally leave!



    Pat



  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited September 2013

    Pat... Take the nap! Your mom doesn't know?? Oh my, I'd like to be a fly on that wall... Are you sure your twin sis didn't spill the beans to her yet? Haha sounds like the break from hubby and kids will be short lived with mom coming in.... I hope you're able to enjoy the visit tho.....



    Just got off the phone with one of my clients and he's wanting to use me more and eventually bring me in with him to his meetings with his clients... I started panicking... I said "wait till I have hair!!!!" he just laughed... It will be a while before it happens, but he says.. "hey, we can play the sympathy card! You're already such a likable person and always good to have at the meetings... Let's just use this to our advantage"... He was kidding.... (I think) haha



    The truth is I feel like an ugly dude with no hair, almost no eyebrow on the right and half of one on the left... Only a few lashes left... I am starting to feel like fixing myself up before hubby comes home so he doesn't forget that I was once pretty...... I know we all try to be a good sport about it, but it's always on my mind how I look... Let alone how I feel. It's not just the physical SEs that suck.... Emotional SEs can be just as debilitating, I have discovered.....

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    Itiswhatitis: I am with you on the appearance thing! Now that I am PFC I just want to look somewhat normal again. I feel like a store manequin in the boys department! LOL

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Lorrie,

    You crack me up!

    I avoid the mirrors if possible. Yesterday I "put on my face" and felt way better for it, but then again I was going to a party, so I "had" to. Also had picked up a nice long dress that had "flow"...(hide the belly fat I've added), put on some fancy sandals and I felt really good.

    AND...I didn't wear a bra! It was showing from the back of the dress, no matter how I tried to move that bra around it wasn't "hiding"...SO...I thought, "these breasts have been sliced and diced AND reconstructed and lifted,I think I can get away without a bra". AND IT WORKED,!

    You are right, we should show our husbands we are still women...I'm just not motivated on a regular basis. I'm waiting for him to start calling me "Fred". Lol



    Twin sis couldn't spill the beans about chemo....she doesn't know either. She only knew I had cancer before she decided to give me the heave ho. Younger sis knows, and has not violated the "don't talk to mom about it pact". Mom knows I had a surgery...that's all. Younger sis will mention now and again I am "sick" but dear mom doesn't ask, almost like the military "don't ask, don't tell". Anyhow, when I pick her up she might be able to put two and two together...sis and I will be spending a week with with mom at a beach house (me hiding from the sun!) and my mom can see I am "normal" (well, if you could call me normal!) and it won't bug her. She has mental illness she meditates for, along with a mind that makes up stories about people and their situations...I call it "old people's mind", or "I need to get a life mind". Who knows maybe it is "nobody tells me anything mind"!



    Gully,

    I think the boy mannequin wears more make up than I usually do!



    Pat

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Oh Lorrie,

    Great about the job thing! Sounds like they see you for who you really are, not the "what you are dealing with". That is fantastic!

    Pat

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited July 2013

    Oh my gosh, I'm so with you ladies about feeling unattractive. It stinks :(. I can't fit in any of my clothes either. I guess if our husbands can love us through this then they must really love us.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    I told my kids I feel like that toy where you used magnet to put hair brows etc on the bald guy!

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    IPC: Do you mean Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head? That works too LOL!!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Gully yep potato heads would work but I remember a toy that was nothing more than a cardboard with bald man, and metal shavings under plastic and magnetic wand for moving the shavings into place. My 1/4 inch hair looks like that. Could fill in the brows too!

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    oh yea! I remember that one! If your hair looks like that it looks better than mine! Mine resembles a 100 year old man! Not cool at all! I wonder if it will ever come back to look some kind of normal. It looks like from the other boards it could take several months! God give me strength! Anyone besides me feel like a drag queen? Fake hair, makeup, big ear rings....HehEHE

    Have an appointment with the plastic surgeon tomorrow to talk exchange...does anyone know how long after chemo is done they make you wait? These solid Barbie doll foobs have to go!


  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    I found a picture of me online.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetic+filings+toy&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=HnTkUa3DH5fF4APavYHYAw&ved=0CDcQsAQ&biw=768&bih=928

    Click on the link, scroll down, I'm the one with hair, short...it is just missing the "fuzzy cheeks"

    Pat

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Gully I gave up on fake hair! I hear taking biotin after chemo is good for hair growth. Will try it when I am done. Btw the 1/4" hair is just hair that never fell out! I was not lucky enough to lose leg hair which is so not fair!



    I wont have exchange til after radiation! Am hoping before January so I wont have to pay deductible again. My foob acts up everytime I have chemo - spasms ouch! PS and MO look at me like I am nuts.

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    Pat: Yep more hair than me! toooo funny!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited July 2013

    Patty



    Woolly willy that's me!



    Guess its good we can laugh!



    Lisa

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013

    Oh my goodness!

    Thanks ladies for the much needed laugh!!!

    I laugh about these silly things here on the discussion board..... No one in my life laughs about it... They are all too afraid of hurting my feelings, even if I'm the one joking about it!



    Oh poo, pat.... I just want to dump a glass of wine over your twin's pretty white jacket.... But, I'd rather buy you a glass than waste it on her! Sorry you have to deal with keeping really important things from some of your family. I hope you enjoy your time with Mom and your other sis!



    In my situation, my mom is the only one that I don't discuss it with. My sis and I haven't spoken to her really in over 13 years.... I'm so grateful to have such a good relationship with my 3 lovelies.....



  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited July 2013

    IPC: Yes, well they dont have them do they. I have weird little spasms all over the place! I know its from the chemo,  never had them before! I like how they ask what se you are having and you tell them, and then they say something like cant be from the chemo! Well doc if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then with all of your education you should figure out that its a duck! ( I should know I teach HS Bio HEHEHE) I dont think they want to hear about anything but the usual SE their treatment manual says you may have., otherwise nothing, or it will go away on its own. 

    Another thing about stubble: Anybody else stick to their pillow like velcro? Mine actually makes that crunching sound....Oh IPC.....hair loss has been weird. I lost it everywhere expect my arms, and my lashes and eyebrows are still hanging in there, although, a little wonkyFoot in Mouth One more thing, anyone have the little white downy hairs on your face? WTF is up with that?

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited July 2013

    It is pretty pathetic looking into the mirror. One boob gone, bald heaf, hand slightly wrapped, picc bulging on my arm. Half the time I look at myself and laugh and go Oh well. The other half of the time, I shake my head and go Ughh.

    Gosh Pat, at first when you said your hubby and boys were taking off for a few days, I was happy for you. Hope all goes well with your mom, is enjoyable and exhausting. Glad you had such a nice time at the shower.



    Lorrie-How wonderful that your hubby has stepped up to the plate. Maybe he can do a video for utube on what husbands could do for their wives with cancer. Glad your s.e.'s are better. Must feel great that your client wants more of you.... (after your feeling better).



    Gully-I've heard satin pillowcasesare soothing for a stubbie head.



    My mom is 93 and has dimensia pretty bad. I get to see her and her hubby about once a week. There has been times when my cancer comes up and she will have forgotten and she'll go Oh honey, you have cancer? I'll say yes, but I'm doing great and I'll be fine. Then she'll be happy again. It's bitter sweet.



    Finally made it to Look Good Feel Good today. Loved it. Got a wig. My hair is normally short and mostly gray. The wig is a page, brown in color with highlights. I love it. :).



    Carla







  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited July 2013



    Maybe it was telling him about the picc apt where I got scolded... Or when he'd see me on the kitchen stool and ask what I was doing... I'd tell him I was unloading the dishwasher, but taking a break.... Or when I got caught sitting on the stairs crying because my feet were numb but I had to chang the sheets on the bed....

    Then he told me that he heard me moaning in my sleep on my painful nights..... And he started helping. I don't care what it was... It has made this treatment better!

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