Anyone choose not to do chemo?
Comments
-
Hi all. I was wondering if anyone has chose/chosen not to do chemo being trip neg. Here is a brief run down on my past.
DX'd 2000 38 yrs old left side IDC trip neg, 4cm tumor, stage 2, grade 3, 2 out of 5 nodes pos. mast, chemo, rads.
8 yrs clean Woo Hoo
DX'd 2008 46 yrs old right side (other side) IDC triple neg, 1.5 cm tumor, stage 1, grade 3, mast, waiting on results of SNB. Also waiting on reslults of BRCA testing
I am thinking of not having chemo if my SNB comes out neg. Doc said they looked good and healthy at time of removal). I know most trip negs are destined to have chemo but I don't know if I want to go through it again. Is there any triple negs out there that have chose/chosen not done the chemo and how are you doing?
-
Before you decide against chemo, you should think about a couple of things:
With triple neg, the only fight we have is chemo. And, cancer can travel through the bloodstream in addition to the lymph system.
In addition, the anti-nausea drugs are much, much better than they were 8 years ago!
Hugs,
Hillary -
I don't think you will find many triple neg's who didn't do chemo, especially as young as you are. I mean, just think, it worked the last time, right?
It's your choice, but I would urge you to do it.
Shannon
-
As previously stated, chemo is the only meds that triple-negs have. Plus, chemo works really well on triple-neg. So sorry you ended your dance with NED. But that is just an interuption.
((Healing hugs to you))
-
Thanks all for the advice. I am leaning towards chemo. Just scared right now in having to do it again.
-
It's understandable that you are scared to do chemo again. But you can beat it again.
Teresa
-
I had a 4.5 cm triple-negative tumor in 2005 followed by a 1.2 cm second primary (also triple negative) in my other breast in 2007. I had mastectomy both times, so no rads. Onc said I was "young," and insisted on chemo both times. (I turn 50 this summer.)
Chemo in 2005 was four rounds of AC (every other week), followed by four rounds of taxol. Chemo in 2007 was 12 weekly rounds of carboplatin and taxol. The weekly chemo was MUCH easier on me than my 2005 regimen, because each week's dose was less than what you'd get on an every-other-week schedule.
Even in 2005, I only threw up once. Had a lot of aches and pains and fatigue, but it was all manageable. I was terribly afraid of having to have chemo again, but you slog through. In fact, I think it actually was easier the second time because I was more familiar with it.
My onc gave me no options re skipping chemo. I think I went at it like, "Well, if I did it once, I can do it again."
--CindyMN
-
Thanks all for the encouragement. I got the results of my SNB today. Guess what....... I am positive. So there is no choice now, I will do the chemo. Weekly doses sound better and I hope to work through them. Thanks again everybody.
-
Stage 2 grade 3 lumpectomy, have chosen not to undergo any further medical treatment. now one month after lumpectomy.
-
Tnc stage 2a has not spread to body. Port blocked at first infusion; after doctor approve intravenously which require my approval, I am hesitant now to do it. Nurse explained that any liquid that will spill out of vein will destroy the surrounding skin. Even 1 drop. I refused treatment intravenously.
-
regia: What about a PICC line instead of a port? This is very commonly done in Canada; you have to be careful not to get the area wet, but other than that, it's not inconvenient.
Alternatively, talk to another doc or chemo nurse about intravenous... it can and has been done, but probably requires a highly experienced hand. Or ask about alternative chemo (it's adriamyacin that's highly toxic).
-
I have chosen not to have chemo. The oncologists were very persuasive and determined to treat me, but I'm just not doing it. I have been diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer. I'm 55. Stage 1a, grade 3, 1.6 cm, zero margins, zero nodes.
The chemo oncologist said I had no choice and I would have 16 weeks of treatment. I do have a choice, and I choose no. The department head came to see me and said that chemo is the standard of care for TNCB, and she didn't understand why anyone would decline. I could go into all my reasons, but that would be boring. It's not my goal to try to convince anyone to agree with me, I'm just reporting my decision in this thread.
I will be having radiation. I had a CT scan and the radiation oncologest prescribed 16 regular treatments plus 4 intense (high dose) treatments. This is the minimum radiation that was on the table. She did not believe I needed more.
-
Hi, this message is for Linda2907. You said to list all the reasons you are not doing chemo would be boring. Not to me I would love to know. I am 48 and was diagnosed in April with Tnbc, stage 1A, clear margins , clear lymph nodes. I had a lumpectomy and have done 4 rounds of AC due to do 4 rounds of Taxol. Seriously considering stopping now because I did not have the courage at the beginning to do what you are doing....but I wanted to.
-
Linda2907 I'd like to hear your reasons, too. I am like grateful29 - 47, diagnosed in april stage 1a clear margins clear lymph nodes. I had a lumpectomy and have had 3 rounds of TC with 3 more to go. There are days I would like to stop now. No one wants to hear me say it, but that's how I feel. It's comforting to know I'm not alone.
-
Hi TeeDills2013, I think I have made my decision. Just finished 4 rounds of AC am going to do the next 2 rounds of dd Taxol and that is it. I am not doing the last 2. I am also talking to my surgeon and want a bi-lateral mastectomy done.
Unfortunately, the chemo has taken such a toll on my body I have a lot of concerns about what side effects I will possibly live with forever. I feel I have done my due diligence as a preventative measure by doing the six rounds instead of 8.
I want to get my body back healthy and strong. Just wanted you to know you are not alone. As I keep hearing....you know your body and you have to do what is best and feels right to you.
-
thanks, grateful - I will have my 4th dose of TC on Wednesday. I see my MO on Tuesday and will talk about 4 versus the original plan of 6. You are right, we do know our own bodies. I feel as though I have physically aged 10 years, lost all muscle tone and with the fatigue wonder if I will ever get back to being half as fit as I was.
-
Good Luck TeeDills...had first round of taxol yesterday. Spoke to my onc. and obviously she doesn't agree with my decision of 6 in total versus 8 but seems to understand. She did tell me by doing at least the 1st 2 rounds of taxol I am getting really the most out of it. Personally I think the last 2 are just to cover protocol. Not everyone fits into the same box.
Interesting I just received an article from the cancer centers of America. There is a big forum being held in Chicago end of this month to discuss more pinpoint and tailored treatments using genetics and dna testing. The best part is that the reason they are doing this is because of the concern of the high levels of toxicity of chemo treatments being given which might not be always necessary especially in diagnosed early stage cancers. Apparently the long term effects of these high dosages of chemo are beginning to be somewhat more concerning than the possibility of recurrence. In Europe they take a much more wait and see and monitor closely approach using genetics and dna testing.
-
Just curious I had 3 of 4 tx of tc had an alergic reaction after 3rd so it was stopped due to 2 weeks in hospital with chemo caused pneumonia I can say for me it has aged me too and 8 months after my last chemo I still have hand and foot syndrome and it is very dibilitating.if the spot they found turns out to be mets im not sure I could do it again, but then right now there isnt any other tx for tn
-
They can test your cancer against various chemos to see which work best. My cancer spread by bloodstream and I was stage iv from start. Chemo saved my life. I can build my strength back up but can't get my life back, if I die.
-
Okay, I hope it is okay if I jump in here. I was Triple Positive. I write a Breast Cancer Blog and hear from ALOT of Trip Neg women. The most interesting thing I find is that some have amazing results with AC and with others, it doesn't work. But the ones where the AC didn't work, have amazing results with Taxol. I am finding this more and more after hearing from many, many women. Just observation.
Okay chemo toll on body. I had an AC heart attack. I didn't know it. Thought it was side effects. I was 55 yrs old at the time and in good health other than BC. Never had any heart issues. That being said, I am now 13 months out from Chemo. I have made a comeback. With medication, exercise and cancer rehab, I have really turned around. I went from feeling 85 years old back to my age. Don't get discouraged. Your body will come back!! Again, I have heard from HUNDREDS of women. Most of them get better. But it takes time, time, time.
Sending encouragement! Denise
-
Yeah, I feel a need to jump in too. I respect that each woman can and should make her own choices, but the research/analyst junkie in me desperately wants those choices to be at least primarily evidence-based, especially when it comes to matters of life and death.
It's a fact that AC works wonders on some TN tumours, and not on others. It's a fact that Taxol has been highly effective for some TN tumours. This is why oncs, depending on the women's pathology (size of tumour, lymph node involvement, age etc.) like to throw both heavy guns at TN.
With concern and respect, grateful29, I don't know your situation, but it appears that your decision to go with 2 taxol instead of 4 appears a bit arbitrary, based on your reaction to AC. Many women (myself included) found that taxol was far easier on our bodies than AC. It may be the case for you too. I am wondering, what is the downside of waiting and seeing how your body responds.. and then deciding? You may conclude that two more treatments and four weeks (and risk of side effects) is a relatively small price to pay for, potentially, a long natural life-time to come. And however your treatment turns out, I wish you well.
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team