BC with Pre-existing Major Mental Illness - How Many?

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited June 2013

    Bak - I am sorry to hear about what you are going through. I do hope you come back.

    Interestingly, since being diagnosed with mets my mood has been incredibly stable. It could be all the outpouring of love. Cancer always makes one shake one's head.

    Oh, and the Tamoxifen I am now on to treat the progression? No noticeable side effects so far - probably because I am dealing with so many physical problems. How Ironic.

    Why did I progress? I think I had very aggressive cancer - 8 out of 9 on the SBR scale. And the TAM may not be working. We may have to go to chemo (shudder). If that ends up being the case, I was wise to stop TAM years ago as well.

    Final conclusion: cancer is a crap shoot. It progresses when, if and how it feels it doing so.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited June 2013

    Sparkytheimp - Being new to the area and dealing with this is hard. Have you found a pdoc yet?

    kyliet - Thanks for sharing what is working for you. Having to up your Lamictal during chemo treatments? Yikes. Even if I go the chemo route, upping my Lamictal (again) would suck. I still have trouble with the 300 mg I'm taking now. Side effects are a bitch. But it's the Devil I know.  All these new drugs come with their own side effects.

    1athena1 - I'm sorry about your progression. It's strange that your moods are leveling. I'd be thinking, "why now?"

    Sometimes I think this is some colossal joke on us. Bipolar and breast cancer?

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2013

    I find it confusing that I should be concerned about it killing me, when I have hoped to die pretty much every day since I was 10. However, I have decided that I will not spend a single penny to treat it if it does progress. My depressing life just is not worth it. For me, it is stupid to fight for my life when I really don't like life. However, for now, I will continue to eat the kind of diet that discourages cancer growth. I have been getting lax in that area, but I have the crock pot on low cooking my organic vegetable soup all night long. I will be back on track tomorrow, oops . . . later today.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited June 2013

    OMG dunesleeper, I feel the same way. I'm tired of this all. Whenever a friend or family member asked me how I'm doing, I usually say, "Waiting for my untimely death." Haha they always laugh.

    I kinda feel like I'm getting an opportunity to opt out of life.  And I'm seriously considering grabbing it - especially if this is a one time only offer. Laughing

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2013

    I totally get that GlobalGirlyGirl. Great name that. Yeah, I definitely feel that if mine progresses, I will only go for the alleviation of discomfort. If I am being given an opt out (as you put it) I'll take it. At least my life insurance will pay off that way. And my mother frequently has to kick me in the butt with a reminder of "you are a survivor" or "you HAD cancer, you don't have it now" comment. Of course, that is the common picture of cancer: of something that comes back until it kills you. Now I don't know what the stats actually are on that, but that "C" word just seems to carry with it a death sentence in my mind. I'm always surprised when I meet another "survivor" (I kind of don't like that word. It's stupid to me, but whatchagonnado) who is 12 or 20 years out. I guess there are a lot of them out there. If it does not return, I sure will be glad to see it disappear in the rear view mirror. Then I can go back to dealing with ME being the greatest threat to my life. LOL.

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited June 2013

    bak94. I hope you come back. This is a thread that really needed to be brought up. I am dealing with my own mental health issues, but I want to help if possible. I am sure Atena would feel the same way. We all do.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2013

    How are you ladies doing?

    Me? I'm still crying entirely too much, and my anxiety is way out of control. I'll see my supposed pdoc, Nurse Nancy, on Monday and will see if there is anything we can do to help me.

    I may be getting a job, so my anxiety over money will become anxiety about the job, but hopefully I will do well, and like I mentioned, Nurse Nancy can increase my Neurontin or something. I may even have to go back on Celexa/Paxil to see if that helps. I just really don't want to do that. If something should happen that I could not get the med, then I would get so dizzy and maybe even have convulsions apparently. I just know it is a miserable feeling. Then again, I don't know if Neurontin may be the same way. I guess I should look into that.

    It is such a long wait for a disability decision. It will be Spring at least before I get to present my case to a judge. I've been denied twice. They need to understand that the pre-existing condition got much worse because of the breast cancer. I think my doctors just didn't see it enough and so their reports were not convincing. Well, the MO finally got to see how I really am. Of course, she said I was not myself. HA! Lady, this is how I am most of the time now since shortly after I tried to return to work after the mastectomy. Let's hope seeing is believing. It would make my anxiety attack in her office worth it.

    So ........... how are you all doing?

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    Sigh. Nobody is home. Oh well. Hope you all are doing well. I'll go crawl back in my hole.

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2013

    Awww Dunesleeper.....I understand. I have been fighting for SSDI for a long time. This whole cancer thing makes everything so much worse. The docs that do physical doctoring, just have no clue about us mentally. This is what I am currently dealing with.

    This mastectomy threw me for a serious loop.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    Sparky you summed it up perfectly. It threw me for a loop. For me it was the cancer and then the threat to my job which caused me to take early retirement for which I was unprepared financially. Then came the learning who my real friends were, and that was woefully in lack. Then came the overwhelming feeling of loneliness. Then the anxiety which led to being suicidal. This drawn-out SSDI process is absolute torture. I can't believe I got turned down twice, even with a lawyer. How is it going to be any different when I go before the ALJ? I feel bad enough about not being able to work. I hate telling over and over the very symptoms I tried to hide most of my life.

    Best of luck to you Sparky.

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2013

    Best of luck to you as well :)

    Your real friends, that has to be the absolutely worst thing about this. It makes me sad, but then my actual real friends make me happy.

    I avoid words like depressed as that implies an actual mental condition, rather than just sad.

    But yeah, social security sucks. I mean, they do, not the favorable ruling.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    Good for you Sparky for enjoying your real friends!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited July 2013

    I was approved for ssdi on the first try. I think it was because one of my reports said stage 4. I am currently ned and wonder how long before they will challenge my ssdi. I do not feel like I could work, physically or mentally. But sometimes I just don't know what to do with myself. I don't really have any friends anymore, at least no one calls or checks on me, but I don't call them either. I do have my husband and family, plus my animals. My animals are what keep me going, get me out of bed! I feel bad about not working also. I don't know how to live my life, I just try not to make my husband mad, sad that my goal of each day is to not irritate him! He works very hard and our yard and house are very time consuming to maintain with all the animals, I do alot of it, but there is sooo much to do.

    Dunesleeper-did you get a job? I think a job right now would put me over the edge. I was crying alot and my doc upped my effexor, it did help a little, but feel like it is just numbing everything. Sometimes I think I will volunteer somewhere to see if I could handle a job. Sorry my thoughts are just all over the place. We just lost a triple negative sister today. She was such an inspiration. I just wonder what it is all about. Are we here on accident or is there a bigger purpose? I wish I had a strong faith like my husband, but I think I am atheist. When I say that I feel like I am a bad person, but how could a higher power allow all this crap?

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    BAK, I have lost faith in God, heaven, and hell. I just cannot imagine what could be worse than what I have been feeling. So how can there be hell (other than hell on earth)? I was thinking today, though, that I think there is Spirit. So if there is Spirit, there might be something after all this. Spirit is energy, which supposedly can neither be created nor destroyed. So it must go somewhere or transform in some way. Maybe.

    I have been volunteering for the Red Cross. I am sure it helped prepare me for this upcoming job. I may be starting Thursday. I'm not sure I will be able to do it. My anxiety is through the roof. I was lost long in thought yesterday about hanging from the tree outside my window and me blowing in the wind that blows  through there like a wind tunnel. The nurse practitioner I see doesn't listen at all to what I tell her about how I am doing. She just writes scripts, but she doesn't seem interested in whether I might need an adjustment to them.

    I started acupuncture treatment and will hopefully go to a psychologist Saturday (if I don't have to work when that appt is scheduled). I'm hoping he can hook me up with someone else to deal with my medications. I don't have any hope that he can do anything to help me, but I am trying to be open to the possibility.

    Today I had my 6 month ultrasound (which I get instead of mammograms), and of course they had to lecture me AGAIN about how ultrasound is not as good as mammogram for detecting changes in the breast. I begged them to stop but they wouldn't and then I started shaking and crying. So they apologized. Seriously. There is nothing else they need to know. I choose not to be subjected to squishing and radiating my breast. That's all they need to know, and they need to shut the hell up. I am out here on a limb all by myself, making the decisions that feel right to me. There are multiple ways to do this thing. We each make the choice that feels right to us. I don't need them challenging my choices at every turn. Damn! They really piss me off, and I'm considering cancelling all future appointments with the oncologist and all future ultrasounds. I'll go to the naturopath to monitor my tumor markers and continue to use the herbs and supplements he prescribes. Conventional practioners just undermine my confidence in the path I have chosen. Attitude is huge in this thing. Reducing stress is critical in this thing. These people increased my stress level to the point that I was actually dizzy while walking and driving.

    OK. Rant over. Keeps your fingers crossed for me that the psychologist is a good one and can do SOMETHING to help my emotional situation.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited July 2013

    You are so right about reducing stress being critical, dunesleeper. I wholeheartedly believe stress is what caused my cancer. I hope you can find a psychologist who will help you through this and won't add unsolicited commentary on your treatment choices.  We do the best we can with the information given. And we have to have a decent amount of confidence and belief that what we've chosen is the best path for us.  Hard to do when it's being shot down at every corner. 

    I had my treatment recommendation today. Chemo (ACT) + radiation therapy + hormone therapy. Well, surprise, surprise.  It was all so overwhelming. I took the day off, which was a good thing. I had a huge lunch and napped.  He wants to start the chemo in two weeks!! I don't know if I even want it, and he's selling it like he gets a commission or something.

    I'm looking for a second opinion, and I found a breast cancer oncologist down in L.A. My oncologist does not specialize in breast cancer.

    I don't know. I kinda want to be done with the whole thing since I already had my lumpectomy and SNB - got clean margins and clear nodes.

    Hang in there mama. And keep trying with SSDI. My cousin's husband is a disability attorney here in CA. Just keep at it. Oh and I didn't do well on Neurontin at all when I was hospitalized for mania. I couldn't get out of bed and kinda laid there catatonic. Bad stuff for me.  Maybe there's another one that Nurse Nancy can prescribe?

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited July 2013

    Athena....I am sorry about the mets.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited July 2013

    dunesleeper-that is so annoying! Remind them that mammos are not perfect either and can miss many things! The last mammo I had was so painful, but now I have had a bmx so no more mammos! I hope they find something that will help. I also consider not having my oncologist appointments, in fact I went 6 months instead of 3 last time because I did nto want to deal with the stress. I hope your job goes ok! Keep us posted.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    The job called today and I start Sunday. I'm glad that is moving forward. I need to get in there and start doing. Then, I think, some of the anxiety will leave me. Anyway, I also got 2 calls today from other places where I applied for jobs. Geez! I put in these applications so long ago, and now that I got a job, the offers are pouring in. Well, I'm glad that employers are finding me a desirable candidate . . . finally. I'm just going ahead with the one I am already set up with.

    I should have gone to that ultrasound prepared to tell them my reasons. Instead I just got all anxious to the point where I could not tell them anything other than I am against mammos. If I ever go back again, I hope I have a good speech planned out. Tongue Out

    Athena, I must have missed your post about mets. How are you feeling now? Do you know any more about how they will treat it? Where did it spread?

    I have been feeling really dizzy on and off. I was dizzy yesterday and again today. I was attributing it to the anxiety. Then for a moment I wondered about mets to the brain. Then I remembered that my tumor marker count was good. So I'm back to thinking it is anxiety and probable shallow breathing. However, it is just another example of how we will likely always wonder if a symptom could be the spread of cancer. Happy happy joy joy.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    GlobalGirlyGirl, that seems to be the treatment they recommend for nearly everyone. I think that is total BS. It makes them lots of money and makes patients plenty sick. However, if you choose not to go that route, I hope you will hook up with a naturopath for some recommendations for an anti-cancer diet and supplements. Those will build you up so that your body will become inhospitable to cancer.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited July 2013

    dunesleeper - Plenty of money. It's poison in combinations that mess you up so much that you end up buying their other drugs to fight the symptoms of the poison. Pretty damn smart to do it that way.

    Regarding the SSDI, my cousin's husband, the disability attorney, says that it's really good if you're working when applying. It doesn't makes sense in the fact that you can't work due to your illness, but it shows them that you want to. He's the ace up my sleeve when I'm either dying from this or have to get ECT or something for the bipolar. :-) For now, working keeps my mind busy and off the cancer. Laughing

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    GlobalGirlyGirl, I am hoping that working will help keep my mind busy so that I stop all this feeling sorry for myself stuff. It worries me, though. Yesterday a guy came to the door. He wanted to sell me Verizon FIOS for the TV. (I just use rabbit ears and watch broadcast TV.) Anyway, as I turned to walk back in the house, he said he was trying to save me money, and I spun around and blew my top, shaking my finger at him and screaming "NO YOU ARE NOT" and "THAT IS B.S." except I didn't just say the initials. I was amazed at the crazed anger and hatred that rose up in me. I wonder why that happened. Anyway, let's hope that doesn't happen at work. LOL. Let's hope that doesn't happen again ever.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited July 2013

    dunesleeper - That's some serious rage, mama. I was there tonight. It looks like I'm developing cording from the Sentinel Node Biopsy. I'm tired of all of this sh*t. For real. I'm soo done. 

    Let's hope it doesn't happen ever again for us so we don't need bail money. Haha

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    Gentle stretches for that cording GGG. That helped me a lot. And it went away completely within a couple of weeks. And yeah, ditto on that bail money thing. tehehehe

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2013

    I just popped in to take a peak. I am amazed at how well you guys echo my own thoughts. I have to go Monday for surgery again to place the portacath.....Jeez, why can't they just leave me alone for a while and let me try to feel halfway normal? I asked a bunch of questions of my oncologist, I just met him, and indeed, he shot down literally everything I could offer up as alternative treatment. Even though I was saying using these methods as an add on to the chemo. Then he tells me the chemo will give me a 10% better chance that it will not come back. I'm thinking hang on, you want me to kill myself for 6 months, and hope I have enough healthy cells to survive the onslaught, for a 10% better chance? THis does not set well with me at all, and I am having a mini-freak out time because my dumb butt decided to look at google images.....Yeah, no, bad idea..

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    I understand Sparky. My oncologist is not happy with me, but I declined chemo and radiation. You could choose not to have chemo. I went to a naturopath for guidance. Of course, insurance doesn't cover naturopaths, so I cannot follow up with him often. I just went several times at the beginning. The oncologist still sees me and orders bloodwork (mostly interested in the tumor marker) and ultrasound (I also refused mammography). If she should refuse to see me I would simply go to the naturopath to have him order the bloodwork. His is far more complete. Anyway, you do have choices. You just won't hear those choices from people in mainstream medicine. They have been taught that anything other than what they do is quackery. It's not, though.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    Kay, you sound just like me. I couldn't have described myself better. The only thing is that since the cancer and the rejection that came with that, I've also become an angry bitch. I have been depressed since 1979. I, too, have not succeeded in checking out yet. As awful as my life is I have finally learned that I actually fear not-being. I know the pain will go away then, but still I fear it. It actually took cancer to teach me that. Isn't that pathetic!

    I hope somebody else here will have some good advice for you. I can only say that I feel your pain. I truly do. We just have to muddle through the best we can. I try to hope that I'm still alive for some reason. It may only be that I have something I need to learn. It may be that something I do or say will have a positive effect on someone else. Regardless, it does help me to do all I can to hang on.

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2013

    @Kay. What dunesleeper said. I ffigure we are all here on this forum for some reason, even if it's just to reach out and find other people going through what we are going through. I am bipolar schizo affective disorder, yet I have no psychiatrist here yet. I know that should have been the first thing done, but this whole cancer thing took precedence.

    There might be something you can do to help yourself, as well as other people like us in this weird world of comorbidity. See if there is a peer group near you. I finally found out the biggest help I could ever receive or give came from my peers. If not, maybe we should create one somewhere. I was thinking of FB as a possibilty. Though I know FB sort of sucks, it's okay in certain groups as long as everyone is on the same page or a similar page right? (I mean that figuratively).

    I'm not sure what else I can do right now, as I have no transportation so I can not get to mental health and don't know if they would be much help anyway. As far as Rx, yeah, that's about the only thing the docs are good for.

    I don't want to do this surgery tomorrow. I really don't, but if I don't, insurance won't cover any other treatment. I am totally stuck between a rock and a hard place. All I know is I am not a happy camper right now, and I need make a decision.

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited July 2013

    kayb - you said it right there: "As if crazy wasn't hard enough - then came cancer." If this is some colossal joke, I don't get it.

    I, too, have become an "angry bitch," dunesleeper. I go from being completely weepy to picturing myself bashing this laptop against my hardwood floor. I hate it. I think I'm rapid cycling right now from this crap. God help me when all this slows down, and I have to really deal with it. So far, everything has been going warp speed I haven't had time to really process everything. I fear I'm going to be an inconsolable mess on the floor.

    How did your surgery go, Sparkytheimp? If you decided to go through with it...

    Right now, I have 1990's R&B playing in the background. I think I'm wanting to go back to a simpler time when I didn't have to deal with bipolar and cancer.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2013

    If R&B helps, then play it a lot! I love R&B too. Somehow I forget to listen to music these days. When I do, I enjoy it. I feel less angry these days, but it was not really very long ago that I blew my lid. I guess I try to avoid situations that could trigger the anger. So far my anger attacks at work have been mild and controlled. I hope to get better and better at it.

  • Sparkytheimp
    Sparkytheimp Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2013

    I didn't go. I asked my friend if there was some kind of law that said I had to do this right now. I had a bad infection on the mastectomy and you guys don't even want to know how freaked out this whole thing has made me. I could describe it, but blaaaahhhh.....

    Anyway, I need to heal up before they go chopping into me again, so no, I didn't do it. Instead I watched the sunrise, and then the storms way off in the distance, and tried to just have one normal forget about this shit day.

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