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  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2013

    Kad- Congrats on getting drains out!



    Goldie- Ouch, hooe that heals up quickly for you!



    Question: Did anyone else get a bunch of side boob under their arms when they first had the diep? Im not used to the feeling of not being able to lower my arms all the way plus its sore on the sides. Does this usually get repositioned in stage two? Thanks!

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited July 2013

    Goldie,

    I have chia seeds, eat them all the time. It doesn't matter if you get the super expensive ones. I know around here Costco has whole chia seeds at the lowest cost per ounce. I put them in my smoothies, or sprinkle them on salads. Goes good with flax seed added to oatmeal. Just cook the seeds with water first, then add them to the oatmeal. Mmmm

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited July 2013

    Woah. I just removed the dressing to change it and there is a big giant blood blister looking spot across the middle of my incision. Anyone ever have that?? It's not bright red and swollen or anything, but dark red like dried blood under the skin or something. Please tell me my skin isn't dying!!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2013

    Dyvgrl- I have a couple of spots like that, my PS said it was from the skin not getting enough blood flow. Some of my spots got better but I still have two that look black now.

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited July 2013

    My DD gave me a shower tonight. Wow, never thought I'd be doing that! I told her she was in training for wiping my butt when I got older. It was worth it because I feel so much better. Mt DH went out and rented a very nice recliner and it is so much better than the bed. So, feeling pretty good. My mom is coming to help tomorrow. I've never been one for asking help, but what the heck. When you can't move, you just accept the help. I'm a little doubtful about making the wedding on Saturday, but am still hoping to get better. My daughter suggested a wheelchair, but that might be too weird.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited July 2013

    Mammalou...it's late for you to be up, so soon after surgery, but very glad to hear you're feeling good after a shower. Makes such a huge difference, doesn't it! The recliner sounds perfect, especially since you were told to stay flexed. Don't count yourself out of the wedding celebration quite yet, though for sure, you probably won't be up to an extended day of being up and out, but a week can make a huge difference in how you're feeling!!!!! Hope you get some sleep.

    Dvygrl.....gosh, sorry about your "discovery"....hang in there, maybe get it checked as soon as you can? Enough with the complications, girl!!! 

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited July 2013

    Robin - Just take deep breaths and picture yourself doing all the things that you love to do, with a body that is fresh, and healthy, and strong. We are with you.



    Mammalou - Whats weird about a wheelchair? I think that a wheelchair, especially one with some flowers tied to it, would be perfect for a wedding.



  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited July 2013

    Goldie- love chia seeds. they are filling, and help keep me regular. I use them in my smoothies. I am really sorry that you are still so unsure of your surgery. Maybe you do still need to take a step back, get the TEs filled some more (mine felt much better as it got filled more times, except right toward the end when it got overfilled for rads.) Do you still think about doing implants? What is holding you back from Diep? You may not be able to get to a point where you feel great about any decision regarding this but I do hope you feel more sure than you do now. The way you feel is how I felt the whole time that I felt that implants were really my only option. Once I decided to do DIEP, I had an incredible sense of calm because I knew that this was the right choice for me. I don't think you would be unhappy once you got your DIEP, but maybe you need more time? I know time is hard, we want to hurry and get this whole cancer thing behind us as fast as we can.

    Sweetpickle- I definately have some side boob- the cantaloupe runneth over! I am still hoping a great deal of that is swelling.

    Mammalou- I ended up with a wheelchair last week and was so glad I did. It was comfortable and gave me a lot more freedom to be out than I would have had otherwise.




  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited July 2013

    I am headed to my postop appt today. My infection looks much better, thank goodness! Unfortunately my drain in that area has really picked up speed the last 3 days. I am so pissed! 2 were going to for sure be pulled out, and the 3rd was hovering right around the right amount last week- enough to wear I am sure he would pull it just out of pity because it was soooo close, but now it is putting out way more fluid. Ugh! It would be okay if it were anywhere else but it is one of the fang drains and I am so over that. I hate them, they hurt so incredibly bad because of placement, I am also sick of not wearing underwear and only wearing dresses. any baggy pants just aren't roomy enough- the end up moving the drains around too much. The one drain that is putting out too much fluid has such a big opening now that I swear, 2 drain tubes would fit through that hole. I am still really hoping he will pull it and that my body could absorb the rest of the fluids. I definately think it would be helpful to my infection to get it out!

    I am hoping to go to Ikea today, so I am going to have my hubby pack the wheelchair for our trip. I was really hoping that I would walk upright by now, but I still look like Igor, walking all hunched over. My back is feeling much better though- I can walk around the house for a few minutes now before it starts to spasm.

    Someone on here posted that maybe the people with the crotch drains vs. hip drains have lower incisions- that may be true. There is no way mine could be any lower at all- so at stage 2, I won't be having my scar moved, it'sas south as it can get!

  • RobinY
    RobinY Member Posts: 36
    edited July 2013

    I'm at the hospital waiting to be checked in- love you guys and thanks for the prayers. I'm still so loaded from the Xanax and emend that I'm just tired and not- thank God freaking out. :)

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited July 2013

    Igor - 

    I'm still hunched over too. But only a bit. I'm a few days ahead of you, and found that I turned a big corner yesterday as far as walking like a real person, and not a neanderthal. Yesterday I woke up and made coffee and Jim took one look at me and said 'She's back!'.

    Hang in there. I think we're in the home stretch.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited July 2013

    We're with you Robin!!!!!!

    Damiana.....Hope things get sorted out for you today at the appt. 

    dyvgrl.....thinking of you...hope things start heading in the right direction for you soon.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2013

    Good luck Robin, thinking about you and speedy recovery!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2013

    Damiana- Hope you are able to get that drain out soon!

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2013

    Skin isn't dying - it heals, might take time but let your PS know, Dyvgrl- not to worry!



    Praying for you all!

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited July 2013

    Mamalou, go for the wheelchair! So many advantages, you won't be caught STANDING somewhere talking to someone and wishing you had a chair or seat, you can be comfortable bringing your own. Not missing this important event will overshadow any feeling of weirdness, IMHO.



    The black spots/blisters do go away with proper care Rx by your PS. Been there done that, freaked at first too but now in retrospect my PS handled it perfectly and while I was a slow healer, they are all healed! (Had a couple on my glob incision line)



    Stage 3 next Thursday! I'm seeing a light at the end of this tunnel!!!

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited July 2013

    Damania... I'm sure you've told us this, but so much to look thru. Where is your infection and how can you tell. They sent me home on meds just in case, The skin above my flap is very red and swollen. It isn't putting out much.



    My DD nurse goes home today. I am sooooo sad. I'm going to have theses two boys, DH and DS looking after me. They both will do anything I ask but they just don't have the touch of my daughter. 😢



    This recliner my DH got even has USB ports and a little table attachment. Quite fun!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited July 2013

    Kad22, thank you for your telling your story and giving us a boost of confidence about our decision.

    Can I ask, was your diep done like an immediate reconstruction where you only have the round scar where the nipple should be because you already had the stretched skin from the implants?  The reason I am asking is that I have expander's in right now, and they are starting to fill them.  I am wondering if I should go all the way with the expansion to possibly have a better result with my diep in the end.

    Hey, thinking of everybody in surgery today.

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited July 2013

    Mammalou- a chair with usb ports is really funny!!! My infection showed up right along my abdominal incision. about 2 inches above and below was all bright red- and at my hips where the incision ended got swollen and had a orange peel look appearance- also bright red.

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited July 2013

    Goldie- mine was fully expanded but my PS told me that he could get a better shape and that the look in the end was better and more natural when he did the whole bottom half with the abdominal skin. I was really nervous about that but I let him do the more skin rather than less skin and it looks really good and I think the end result will be a very natural look.

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited July 2013

    Movie, forget those snacks!!! That's way too many calories for a snack!! I just need to pay for it now and then enjoy it later! I want to see a flat tummy and toned legs! I'm hoping I'll be able to get this done in a month. So far so good. I'm determined I'm doing this all the way. I'm on week 2 day 1. If my legs would cooperate I could run it much faster.

    Now I need to read the rest of the posts to see what else is going on!

    To the ladies going in this week, best wishes!!!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited July 2013

    Dyvgrl, I had a blister the size of a quarter, and with silvadene dressing changes twice a day, it healed up in a few weeks.  The process looked just like a deep spot of road-rash (with which I have plenty of painful experience).  

    Mammalou, I'm with everyone else; go for the wheelchair.  You can relax and have a good time.

    I have no daughters, sadly, and years ago when I shattered my collarbone in a mountain bike crash, my high-school age son became my nurse when my DH wasn't there.  He really threw himself into the task!  And yesterday he started his residency at UCLA in radiology. 

    So here's a funny story that has nothing to do with BC.  My sons are twins, and right now my unmarried son is living with my married son and his wife, helping them landscape their yard.  My DIL is VERY preggers--36 weeks.  Last night the unmarried son was on a date with a lovely new friend, and the married son and his wife cooked up a plan for the pregnant DIL to march into the restaurant, storm up to the table, and demand, "What are you doing here?  And with her?  You said you'd be home for dinner tonight!"

    Ha ha ha ha...I haven't yet heard how that went, but I'll keep you posted.  Brothers.  What fun they are.

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited July 2013

    Wow, three more pages! Damiani - don't push it with the drains.  Keep em as long as recommended.  My incision is as low as it goes, too, really right on the very lowest part of the tummy, highest on the pubic mound.  I can't imagine trying to move it.

    I came on to say I had the strangest thing happen last night.  I woke up early this morning to a soaked belly, t shirt and panties.  WTF.  That hard, swollen painful right breast......well, not anymore!!  This is a good thing.  Apparently there was a seroma or some other build up of fluid. Thank goodness my incision was still slightly open.  A huge amount of fluid is just pouring out.  It is clear, sort of yellow. The stuff we see in the drains.  So I'm releived of whatever biuld up that was, and the pressure.  I'm off to work with my right bra cup packed with gauze and some spare in my purse.  Whew................

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited July 2013

    SheChirlpe. I had that happen after lumpectomy. It drained on and off until they did my MX 3 months later.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited July 2013

    Sbelizabeth- Oh thats funny, I often wonder how my twins will be when they are grown. I could totally see them playing the same kind of joke on each other.



    Shechirple- Wow, are you going to call your doctor? That would freak me out big time!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited July 2013

    In other news...yesterday evening, for the first time in two years, I put on a swimsuit and went swimming.  It almost made me cry.  I love to swim, but at the beginning of this whole fandango and all the body weirdness involved, I guess I'd just decided I'd never wear a swimsuit again.

    With two soft foobies in the right place, and a tight, flat tummy, I have to say I looked pretty normal.  And the swim was beyond heavenly.  Quiet, warm evening, clear aqua water, moving my sore shoulder and feeling weightless. 

    Of course, when I climbed out of the pool you can see my biker tan.  My legs are trout-belly white to mid-thigh, then island-girl brown.  Oh, well.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited July 2013

    sbelizabeth....oh my gosh....I just love you!!!!!! I think it's pretty clear where your sons get their "personalities" from!!! How was your shoulder after swimming???? In the heat you're having, I bet it was a slice of heaven being in the water! Honestly, I don't know how you guys are still alive down there. 

    Shechirple.....if you keep draining, try using pantyliner type pads to absorb the flood! Good to get that fluid out, but for sure, let your ps know....he might want you to compress that area, to keep the seroma from refilling! Really glad to hear the upside is a relief from pain....always a good thing!!!!

    KUKA.....still alive in that Texas heat!!!! Let's fitness journey together....I just did my first run of week 2, C25K. I'm back at it, since it seems to be one of the things I can do at the moment that doesn't make my shoulder rebel, and helps keep the excess energy at bay. Hope the new shoes make a huge difference. I wouldn't worry about speed, if toning and weight loss is your target....time and distance will have more impact, I believe, but ask your trainer.

    Liefie....isn't this your return to fitness week? 

    mammalou....go to wheelchair route....defo!!!!! Your family wants you there, I'm sure, you KNOW it's just a temporary situation....and each year when your sister celebrates her wedding anniversary, you can personally celebrate how far you have come, from where you are now!!!!!!

    Gotta dash. Robin.....asleep and being well cared for......dvygrl......what's up????

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited July 2013

    Wow! So many posts, and I can't keep up with kids visiting, but here goes.

    Nihahi, yes, return to the gym was the plan, but I forgot about kids being home. Not sacrificing precious time with them - no way! It is a 20 min. drive to the gym, and it will take just too long there and back. So we are walking and swimming. DH and boys out waterskiing as we speak, but I won't attempt that . . . not yet - just joking. Six weeks out and I'm amazed at how tired I get from exercise. Maybe the heat has something to do with it, but I thought by now I would almost be back to normal being so fit before surgery. Working hard in the kitchen too spoiling boys - love that. Return of stamina seems to take its own sweet time, and won't be hurried.

    Mammalou, go in the wheelchair. You do not have to stay in in the whole time, but that way you can share in the fun, and celebrate with the rest.

    Those in surgery today, all the best to you.

    Everybody else, a very good day to you. Skiers just pulled in, and will be hungry - LOL.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited July 2013

    Thanks, Damiana.  That answer helps me a lot.  How are you doing with your tummy incision infection?  Antibiotics help clear it up? I am guessing that you are happy with your new breasts even thought you are not that far out from surgery.  What size cup to you think you will end up being?

    I wish it wasn't so hot here, and I could get out on my bike.  For now I a stuck with the indoor stepper, and my total gym, which I love.  I don't have the kind you see on infomercials, which are probably okay.  I have the kind they use in the rehab facilities.  My father bought it for me not long before he died because I was raving about how much it had helped my back injury.  Now this was over 10 years ago, the thing still is awesome.  But, I really miss getting outside to ride, or walk. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Good afternoon, ladies! I am on the rehab/fitness week 2 as well. Will head to the gym later today. I am slow (week 6 now) but slowly gaining. Working on being able to return to work July 14ish.



    Flap is finally decreasing in size......although not the instant relief you got Shechirple! That would be freaky! And part of me wishes for it lol! I had similar experience after hysterectomy with a drain hole (from prior seroma) that wouldn't heal. They pumped me so full of fluids after surgery that my hands were like balloons and the drain hole was practically pouring. Silliness tried to tell me it was good to be that full of fluid. That was the time I called the doctor's office from my cell phone in the hospital and asked him to call me back......got those fluids turned off!



    So at week six, with swelling, I can see where the noob is headed...I am not in love with it....yet....but know that it's not done and I can see that it's going to be really good and exactly what I hoped for. I still have the area underneath that is slowly healing and still some bruising/dark areas on top side and three very hard areas. It's pointing to the left too much....too much under my arm. These are all normal things and can be corrected in stage 2. The important thing is that it is alive and healthy....and that I am in love with!



    My tummy is amazing.....love it.



    Bought a new swimming suit too! It looks awesome. I've worn swim skirts for years but new tummy made me feel confident enough to get regular tankini bottom....So happy. Now if I would just heal up so I can get in the pool!!!



    Have a happy day, ladies. Prayers for our two who are about half way through sx right now.

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