DIEP 2013
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Nihani,
Love love love your sundress story. I can just see you!!!! What a great feeling!!!
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still chuckling....better check my post...just did some IMPORTANT editing!!!
Love you all.
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Dyvgrl and RobinY.....thinking of you as you prepare these last few days.....you got this!
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LMAO Nihahi.....I noticed that, but got what you meant. Quite the surgery....and quite the picture lol! So happy to hear your sundress story....hoping to find my way into a few favorites of old as well!
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Robin -
No need to beg for prayers - I think there'll be a lot floating your way. I, for one, will be sending you all sort of positive energy on Tuesday at the crack of dawn.
I was where you are a few weeks ago. Same surgery. Not knowing how I was going to make my legs walk willingly into the hospital and lay down on the table. I'd be doing things around the house thinking that I was facing an impossible task - but then I'd remind myself that the way I felt at that moment would not be the way I felt in the hospital, on a sedative, surrounded by a supportive staff that were so excellent at what they did. I would have support, and tools, for my nervousness.
I actually thought there was a chance of being THAT patient that who clung to the doorway as the gurney was being wheeled into the OR. And I was waking up at night thinking of worse case scenarios, and even when I was out shopping for granny underpants and shower chairs - it never seemed real. I always felt like I was prepping for someone else's life.
I found it easier to deal with things in the hospital, than it was to deal with things from my real life. It was always to big a leap for me to handle. And I actually felt more comfortable at the hospital, where I could be a participant, more than a frightened voyeur. Once I got there and talked to the aneasthiologist and the nurses, and met with my PS I felt like I was in really really good hands and my nervousness changed to - 'Okay team, let's do this.'
And remember that Xanax will be a pretty good friend to you. I'm not much of a pill popper but I really believe that a pill & calm is much less destructive than stress. There's no point of putting yourself through all that anxiety - give your mind and body a break. So, start popping!
As for your boss - he'll figure things out. Or he'll find someone who can figure things out. That's not your problem. Just concentrate on keeping your head together and try not to get distracted by your mom, or your job. Your daughter is happy, and you almost have this very safe surgery under your belt.
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Also to add to Janet's wise words, Robin, one step at a time.
Or:
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time, before you know it you'll be asking for a toothpick and on the other side!!!
Prayers for peace are with you! -
Nihahi, I did read the part about your toes twice, but I got what you meant. Still a great story.
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SheChirple- Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Each of us have different situations so it can be very hard to know exactly what to expect, but I feel that getting the most info possible is the best way, aside from Xanax, to alleviate fears.
I was given .25 mg, and have yet to take any. I thought it may be smart to have when the time comes.
Nihahi- I love the sundress story. That is what I am focusing on to get through stresses.
I read somewhere that you can sometimes give blood prior to surgery Incase you need an infusion. Has anyone else heard about this?
I got a few cheap zip front hoodies on eBay- adorable, used good condition-as well as a few cotton skirts. I thought these could be my post-op clothes so that if I stain them, I won't feel as bad.I have a cleopatra style chair that I think may be my best bet post-surgery, and have positioned it close to an end table facing the tv, so that's set. A friend got me the entire Gilmore girls DVD set, and another got me season 1 of white collar. I also have Netflix, and a ton of other DVDs, so I think I'm set that way as well. I belong to a CSA and get one chicken per week, and am freezing the stock for broth.
Good luck to those going in tomorrow!!!!! You're in my thoughts. Good vibes!!!!!!! -
Best wishes to dvygrl and Robyn for tomorrow. You will be in my thoughts!
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I am home on day 5 post diep. Yay! I feel pretty good, except that I can't move! Lol. When I get up to walk I can do about 20 feet and back spasms set in. Very painful. I have 4 drains that aren't draining all that much. They tell me that I got the extra tight, skinny tummy job because I basically didn't have too much fat. That was pretty surprising. So, in order not to rip open incision, they want me always at a 30 degree angle. Right ow it seems like I may never walk normal again.
My breast has developed redness and swelling above the DIEP patch. They put me on antibiotics as a precaution but they are thinking that my radiated skin is just very irritated because they had to lift it and put fat under it. That is the only thing not looking too good.
The doctors pretty much took care of everything I needed for this. They even gave me daily vitamins. The worst thing they gave me was heparin shots 3x a day. They hurt!
I can't wait to remove binder and bra!
All in all, for those coming, it was easier than I expected and I'm glad I did it ! -
Nihahi - Your sundress story is fabulous!
Dyvgirl - Thinking about you tomorrow - powering through to the other side. (Which takes the blink of an eye). Sending lots of positiveness your way, from Canada. And as it's Canada day - it's super-charged positive energy heading to you and Robin.
Veterans - Does anyone have any sugestions for lotions or creams for the incisions? Not since I fell asleep on a beach in Cancun in the 80's have I felt burning like this. Ouch! It's not horrible - but it's relentless. I'm 18 days post surgery - is it okay to start using something?
I'm also happy to report that I've graduated to the next step of healing. Boredom. I've had enough of lying around and watching movies, and I'm restless from the neck up and hips down. Also, Jim - bless his beautiful little heart - is staying at home with me ALL of July and he's starting to get on my nerves. That's a good sign, right?
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Mammalou- sooooo great to hear how well you are doing!!! Giving me faith.
)) what is heparin for? What size was your tummy? I wear a 12 now.
Janet- that was what I was anticipating too, wanting a cream. I have very soft and sensitive skin. So glad you have a "Jim"!!!))) and yes, if you aren't feeling super needy, I'd say here comes recovery!!! Maybe a small outing is in your future?
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Congrats Mamalou! Welcome to the other side, each day will get better and better from here on.
Im using silverdene creame on my incisions because they itch like crazy and also regular eucein lotion on my skin which looks like its peeling on my lower tummy. The itchiness drives me nuts but the lotion helps. -
Happy Monday, everyone! So much to catch up on...
Dyvgrl and RobinY, we're in your pockets today as you scurry about getting ready for the big event.
Mammalou, welcome home! Relax, rest, and medicate as needed. It took me three weeks to stand upright, and I think that's pretty common for all of us. My PS gave me valium for the back spasms and it worked like a charm. Enjoy the shower, but be sure to have something to sit on in there (a plastic lawn chair or step stool works great) and someone within yelling range if you need help. My DH climbed in with me the first couple of days and washed my back, shampooed my hair, the works.
I see my PS Wednesday morning, and hopefully will get Stage II scheduled for August sometime.
HOT bike rides over the weekend, even though we went early!
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Hey, Sweetpickle, I had twins, too. They went to 38 weeks and were born vaginally. After that, my tummy looked like a topo map with the stretch marks and saggy skin. No more of that!...although the stretch marks relocated to my gloobs...
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Nihani,
I just noticed for the first time that you had a tram flap, and not diep. Was there a reason for that, and did they do the modified tram? I am curious, because you sound so good, and I just had my CAT scan the other day, and I am waiting to here if I have the vessels available to do my siea/diep.
I know I read some where in the pages and pages of posts that somebody did a tram, but it was modified, and it really was no biggie. It could have been you that wrote it.
Still loving the sundress story, and I am holding on to it for my positive thought on surgery day.
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Sbelizabeth- I went 38 weeks and five days and also went vag. It is weird to look down and not see the ripples of stretch marks and fat! LOL
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I was in Costco a couple of days ago and they were selling "zero-gravity" patio chairs. Cheap--around $60--and absolutely the most comfy chair I've sat in for a long, long time. I lay there thinking, if I'd had this when I came home from DIEP, I'd spend all my time right here.
Nihahi, loved the sundress story. I, too, have some clothes that I disgustedly threw into the back of my closet, thinking I'd get rid of them, and lo...with the belly gone, they look great.
Typewriterjenny, I asked my PS about the blood pre-donation thing (it's called an autologous transfusion) but he was pretty sure I wouldn't need to be transfused. My hemoglobin dropped considerably, but not dangerously, and could be fixed up with a month's worth of supplemental iron pills.
Shoulder PT this morning. It's such a good hurt.
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Today I need some inspiration. I've googled images for diep over and over, I've read everything I can read and today I'm just thinking of calling the whole thing off! Did anyone else go through this? Is it a phase?
I want to start my new life and that involves a big move- 3 1/2 hours away. I can't do that until my drains are out, so I'm looking at mid August at the earliest.
I am worried about complications and not healing and waiting to go through this for nothing.
Uggghhh! It's always something isn't it?!? -
Sherry- I went through the same thing and we are also planning a move three weeks from now. I think its normal to feel like giving up but I am sure glad that I went through with it and have it behind me now. There have been some bumps in the road but we made it through.
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RobinY - praying for you! Call me if I can do anything for you!
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Sherry, I am doing the same thing and I am three weeks from surgery. I have expander's now, and they are filling them. As uncomfortable as they are, and freaking "iron bra" never stops, I still am doubting my decision to do my diep. I also spent hours pouring over google, and every other place I could find. If you notice, most women end up being very happy with their diep decision. I believe it's like pregnancy. If you wait for the perfect time to have a baby it would never happen. You and I are 5 days apart on our surgery schedule. Don't you wish we could be in the same place, and go in together?
Hang in there. The right decision will come to you.
You are in Canada, right? Isn't there going to be an issue with rescheduling?
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Wow! Even with national holidays and heat waves...this thread keeps on truckin!!!! I'm probably gonna miss somethings, but here goes.....
for those who's dates are getting closer, and the "should I" thoughts are getting louder.....of course, ultimately it is your decision and this is not a mandatory surgery. Lots of us have had those "put the brakes on this whole thing" feelings. Take some time to really think through why you decided to go this route in the first place. Are you wanting to get rid of or avoid implants? Are you wanting to maintain or regain the look and feel of more natural breasts? If these are your reasons, then this likely IS the right choice. I truly understand how massive this surgery sounds.....but try to remember, the length of surgery is not because of how MUCH is being done, or how perilous your chances of survival, but because of the microvascular connections. MICRO.....intensive, time consuming work for your surgeons, not so much for your body. When surgery is over, you are not having to heal bones, muscles, heart, lungs, etc. You are healing skin, some blood vessels and purging the drugs from your system.
transfusions....my ps informed me pre-surgery that the need for transfusion may be needed but was certainly not the norm. He said I would lose blood, as with any surgery, but likely I lost more during my unimx. I never needed blood, but am taking iron supplements for a couple more months.
mammalou....I had a fragile back going into this...and although I was pulled extra tight (every doc and nurse commented on it, so I'm believing them) was able to get upright within about 2 weeks. HOWEVER.....until I could straighten up to a certain point, I REALLY benefitted from using a walker with wheels. It allowed me to take some of the strain off my back, while also increasing my "distances" of walking. I also was taking Flexeril, a muscle relaxant to help with back pain.
goldie...yep, I went into surgery hoping for a Diep, but knowing that might not be the case, and ended up with what is classified as a muscle-sparing free Tram. My PS doesn't do scans pre-surgery, but makes the decisions based on what he actually encounters once things are open and visible intra-operatively. I guess it depends on how much you trust your PS's skills, past history, and flap outcomes. I had and have complete trust in mine. We had long talks about how active my lifestyle is, what I wanted my "quality of life" to be post-surgery, what my wishes were, size and symmetry wise, but most importantly....flap survival was numero uno on the must have list. He felt my diep vessels were of the size and "alignment" that taking a sliver of muscle around them, instead of teasing them out of the muscle completely, was the safer choice for me. He has done other flaps successfully as true dieps, so I know it was not a question of HIS abilities. I have had no issues with flap survival or healing, and have found no changes in what I can do physically AT ALL. I don't believe that one surgery fits everyone, and have no regrets about the choice my PS made, other than knowing that to some people, it may be considered to be "second-class" recon....not true, in my case. However....there is NO WAY I would have consented to the possibility of a pedicled Tram, which is a very outdated and full of complications type of recon.
OMG...this heat must be making my brain melt....sorry for the rambling on......don't know how you southern gals survive this kind of weather!
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Wow....miss a day and pay!!!!!! Not going to respond to all.....but have caught up on reading all posts.....a few things.....
Kuka-Marty is right about watching calories on protein shakes and bars.....the whey protein powder I get from Costco is 27 grams protein and 140 calories per scoop(in water). The Think Thin bars are around 220 calories each with 20 grams protein/bar. I usually do a half at a time in the afternoons...so 10 grams protein and 110 calories....that's a total of 37 grams protein additional.....
Nihahi-STILL walking.....averaging about 27,000+ steps/day.....LOVE your sundress story.....I have some things I would like to re-use........if I get this plication surgery in Sept. maybe I can...... How are things in Calgary? Drying out, I hope! We are not done sending you our heat......it is 96* here in Portland.....damn hot for this corner of the U.S...........(and I know it is MUCH hotter in other areas....especially California! Probably too hot even for the leg-less things that shall not be named....
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Liefie, so glad you got to have your sons home for a weekend! Lucky you! Would love my DDs to plan a visit......why do I have to be sick for them to come?????
Mammalou...you sound pretty good! The three weeks will pass and you'll forget you were hunched over.....life DOES get better!
Dyvgrl and RobinY........(Dyvgrl.....I know you mentioned that surgery may be postponed....if so, it's for a good reason.....you want to be at the best you can be to have this!) I am thinking about you, and wishing you uneventful surgeries and speedy recoveries.....in your pockets!!!! (((Hugs))).
Sherry-congratulations on dumping your ex! The judge sure had him pegged!
Sherry and Goldie.....we have all been where you two are......it's completely NORMAL.....you will figure it out, and I know will make the best choice for YOU. Speaking for myself.....I am SO glad I went through with it! I have a good friend who did implants, and she deals with with iron bra every day......is seriously considering doing DIEP herself.....I LOVE my adopted "girls"! (Or gloobs......)
Shechirple.....you never mention ME! (Kidding of course! Hope you are doing better.....patience....it DOES get better)
Katy......stay out of the HOT California sun!
Janet.....you and Katy should collaborate on a book about BC.....both great writers! Hope you are doing better.....
Okay....I did what I wasn't going to do, but now I must go and get dinner ready for 10.....
Love to ALL......
Namaste and God bless - Jackie -
Yep, Nihani...it was you who told that story about the tram flap. You are inspirational, and always make me feel better. Thank you.
Moviemanic, thanks for the reminding me of the reasons I should have the surgery. My husband, and I are actually making a pros and cons list as we think of them. We are still leaning towards the DIEP, but we do have a question for the PS. Would it be better to let my expander's get bigger, and have as much skin as an immediate reconstruction, or just go ahead and have it in three weeks? I figure if I let the expander's get big enough for the look of an "immediate" recon I would have to wait till around October. That is a long time when Iron Bra is sooooo annoying, and painful.
Thinking of everybody having their procedures tomorrow. Keep us posted on your progress as soon as you can. We will be thinking positive thoughts for you till then.
I went to the dentist today to have my teeth cleaned. The hygienist got all upset with me. I have a habit of flossing after I get in bed, and evidently while I was stoned on my pain pills I flossed to hard and cut my gum pretty badly. I notice something was weird the other day. I won't go into detail, but it is gross what I did. So, now I am on salt water rinses, and careful dental hygiene on top of everything else. Note to self: No more flossing while high on pain pills!!!!!!
Also, another uptight situation. I have been going to this dentist for 20 years. They all know about my bmx, and when I get there it's like they being extra special nice, and giving me the VIP treatment. Very nice, but sometimes you just really want to fly under the radar for all the everyday normal stuff you have to do. Does that make sense?
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Oh yeah, one more thing. Has anybody heard of Chia seed, and is anybody using it? It's supposed to be the new super food. Has all kinds of incredible benefits. My friend called to tell me about it, but she is using some fancy brand called Mila, and it costs a huge amount of money. I found the equivalent for 1/4 the price. Just curious if anybody has heard of it, and has found it beneficial in healing?
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In less than 12 hours I'll be sleeping again. gulp.
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Hang in there robin.......in 24 hours, you'll be a veteran!!!!!
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Robin hang in there ...it will be fine take deep breaths and before you know it you will be on the other side.
GOLDIE and Sherry - I had implants first for three years. I hated them tjey fell under my arms constantly. They didn't look or feel like my old boobs I was so depressed. .was afraid that was how they were supposed to be. Finally decided to see new ps and she confirmed that my first ones were done incorrectly. Now I am not saying this happens to everyone just letting you know that I have only had my new gloobs? For little over a week and absolutely love them. In the end everyone needs to make the choice that best suits them but try to remember why you thought about having the deip surgery in the first place.
Goldie-
Plus No more flossing on pain meds can only imagine. .hugs
Hugs and good wishes to those going in this week.
Going in tomorrow to get more drains pulled I know at least 2 for sure will see about the other two- excited!
Goodnight
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