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  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited March 2013

    Yes Barbe... they say something along the lines of 'everything will be alright.. make me a sandwich'!

    Thanks so much for your kind words!

  • CTLMom
    CTLMom Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2013

    I went for my MO & RO visit on Thursday. I was thrilled with the news overall. My tumor was only 8mm. They explained that when they palpated it before surgery it felt a lot bigger than it actually was. Apparently the tumor was surround by a great deal of inflamed tissue. It was invasive lobular just like last time low grade, estrogen+, and her2-. They were really happy with the results. After discussing it they felt the same about the chemo that I did. The benefits do not outweigh the risks of the damage it does to the body. That was great news! I go this coming Friday for mapping for my radiation which will start on 4/8. They would have started on 4/1 but I am planning a surprise 50th anniversary party for my parents on 4/6 and I don't want to have the stress of the radiation on me the week before the party! Six weeks of radiation is what they want me to do. I'm ok with that except for the fact that I need to travel about and hour and a half each way to the hospital! That is the bummer for me. The other thing that they want is for me to start with Lupron shots to shut down my ovaries. I actually took that when I was going through IVF. She wants to do that for a few months and then start me on Arimidex. We talked about removing my ovaries altogether. I would actually prefer that at this point. This cancer seems highly reactive to estrogen so for my own peace of mind I think it would be better.

    That's about it for now. I hope everyone else waiting for testing and or results gets the best possible news. Try to stay as stress free as you can. I know, easier said than done...

    Hugs,

    CTLmom

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited March 2013

    CTLmom, great news all around!! Have you considered getting a volunteer to drive you to radiation? My Dad drove as a volunteer and would wait sometimes 8-10 hours at the hospital for his patient to come out! Volunteers do it because THEY get something out of it!! Please look into it.

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited March 2013

    I have never heard of volunteers taking people.  Wow.  If I knew they had volunteers to wait just in case... I would have gone to NOLA.  I don't like to ask people to take time off work to go to New Orleans and my best friends have small kids....so, they aren't traveling.....

    I would go get the driver CTL mom.....

  • Susan1954
    Susan1954 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2013

    I had a similar experience, dx in 2002, bilateral mastectomy, recurrence in 2007 at the surgical site - chest wall, and then last night I found another lump, on the other side, again feels like chest wall lump, just like the 2007 one.  The difference now is that I don't have insurance.  Looking bleak.  Not sure what to do next.  I cannot pay for the tests, and I don't want to go in and have them done knowing the bills won't get paid, that seems pretty dishonest.   

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2013

    Susan, my heart goes out to you. Get ahold of the American Cancer Society and ask them what they can do for YOU. Good luck sweetie!

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited April 2013

    I agree with Barbe Susan, and if ACS can't help financially, they should be able to give you several suggestions.



    Hang in there. There is also a forum near the bottom of the list of forums titled insurance, finances...Be sure to check in with them and ask for help.



    Hugs,



    Peggy

  • carolpr56
    carolpr56 Member Posts: 241
    edited June 2013

    So, yeah. Had multifocal non-invasive DCIS 2009 with right side mastectomy and implant. Now find a lump near the implant below my armpit -7mm, and biopsy/removal shows it is breast cancer and not scar tissue nor fat necrosis. I don't remember all the details, but have been taking tamoxifen since the 2009 mx (but only about 50percent of the time, so it's ironically reassuring to read all y'all saying you've been on it and still had recurrences :( ). Will have further excision and more lymph nodes out later in July, then make decisions re tx. In the meantime, I need to break out my old records and brush up on all the terminology, reacquaint myself with the details of my particular brand of this disease and pick up the sword again.



    Can't say I'm glad to be here, but it's good to have all y'all for support and info.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2013

    Carol, sounds like you have a good plan in place to be an advocate for your treatment! Letting go of the could have/should have with the Tamoxifen is a good first step - I hate hearing people wonder if they "did" or "didn't" do something that caused their breast cancer. Please know that you are in my prayers for a successful treatment!! Good luck, sweetie.

  • mimi6464-2
    mimi6464-2 Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2013

    Have been busy dealing with vulvar cancer and vulvectomy (you thought a double mast was heck?)  But just after my vulvar surgery in oct 11 I had a CAT that also showed a 7mm chest wall tumor.  History is IDC, stage 1, 19 lymphs removed, recon, then de-con.  I have since had another vulvar surgery, and my latest CAT showed 2 chest wall nodules, 1= 7mm, 2= 9mm.  My BS i saw 2 months ago is more concerned about my downstairs cancer, but should he have not at least fine needle asspiration them?  Has anybody had chest wall nodules show up after a double mast/lymph involve......and they were fine????  Just checking.  Have alot on my plate, yet don't want to let this slide.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013


    Hello ladies, I haven't been on the site in well over 2 years. I think we try and put the breast cancer behind us and have some sort of a normal life afterwards. But cancer like to rear it's ugly head again... We just have to be stronger and more stubborn than the cancer, which at times can be very difficult.


    I haven't updated my profile yet, since I just got on to look up similar situations of mine. Since joining, I had a double mastectomy with left delayed reconstruction & right immediate reconstruction at NOLA. For those of you that have not been there or think its too far or it inconvenient or too expensive... Where there's a will there's a way! I was single, have very little family left, both parents died of cancer at early ages (Mom of breast & Dad of colon) only one brother who isn't the most supportive and willing to help,made enough money to live week to week & I live in Florida. I thought there's no way that I can make this happen, it's impossible. But I took the first step... I called them. Each of our circumstances our different, I'm not saying it will be the same for everyone, but they treat each case uniquely. Ok, just had to get that out first. It is an amazing facility with the most gifted breast surgeons in the world and the most caring, knowledgeable staff I have eve encountered in my 13 year fight with breast cancer. There is truly NO place like it in the world!!


    First let me say I am so sorry to read so many of you have had recurrences after MX?!?! I too am dealing with a scare right now. I guess after my MX I thought it was all gone and no reason to ever worry again? I have been battling with my health insurance for well over a year trying to get an ultrasound, CT, MRI anything imaging of my breasts, but it was denied every time!! The kept saying it wasn't medically necessary. I have had this hard area at the site where my original DX was, it's also at the scar of my MX, so I was thinking it was bone or most likely scar tissue. I had my oncologist feel it & he said it is definitely not bone. He ordered an MRI at that time (over a year ago) DENIED! So over the year it has grown. I don't know if scar tissue does that or not? So at my annual GYN last week, I had him feel it, he felt it was concerning and wanted the breast cancer specialist in the center feel it right away. She didn't seem too concerned. Said it's most likely scar tissue, but orders the MRI to be sure. I had the MRI last night and the pain I felt in that area was horrible!! I felt like someone was stabbing me with a hot poker right in that spot?!?!? I have had many breast MRI's in my 13 year span & have never encountered that? I was also burning up in there, which never happened before. The technician said the magnets are much stronger now?


    To back up a bit, I have also been having a stabbing pain in the same area. I honestly thought it was my heart at first, because it's on the lest side. It happened several times, it was so bad it would stop me in my tracks & cripple me in pain, it only lasted a few seconds and the I would be fine? I ended up going the ER one day because it got so bad (it really scared me). The ER doc practically laughed me out of the hospital. Basically made me feel like I was wasting their time. She said its scar tissue and sent me on my way. As much as I disliked her bedside manor, in this case I hope she's right.


    So I should hear from my BS within 24-48 hours since the share the same hospital. I'm sure if it is something urgent I will hear from her right away, so news is good news in my book. It's just comforting in some weird way to know I am not the only one experiencing this. I wish none of us had to, but I a glad we have each other for support. 😊


    And I should add that since going to NOLA, I did meet the love of my life (in fact, fell in love over the phone while I was there for a month) ?!?!? We knew each other, saw each other at a Halloween party the Friday before I left and he asked me out (finally)! I explained that I was going out of tow. & it would have to wait, but I'd love to as soon as I return. We spoke every single day I was there for hours on end, I attribute my speedy recovery much in part because I had him & his support!! He picked me up at the airport when I returned home and the rest is history! We were married a little over a year later!! I could say he saved my life, but GOD did that!!! For some reason He felt I should stick around a little longer, maybe to enjoy my new found life and I sure am grateful for it!!!


    God bless you ladies, keep me posted on your progress and know you are in my thoughts & prayers! Thanks for listening!

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited December 2013

    @K9Kim.....Thanks for sharing your story!   Keep us posted on what you find out!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2013


    Kim, what a great way to start a deep relationship!!! Talking and not being able to make it just a sexual urge, gave you a deeper connection!! I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you have Costochondritis. It is an inflammation of the rib area and is so painful it stops you on the spot! It is a form of arthritis and I had a couple of ER trips (I DO have a heart condition and now a pacemaker) that were embarrassing like yours where they made me feel like a hypochondriac! I'd like to go back and explain, even! So, try a Tylenol for arthritis and see if your condition improves. It is EXTREMELY painful and takes my breath away when it hits and I wonder if I'll be able to breath deep enough before I pass out. I bend over the back of a chair and try to press in on my ribs to stop the spasm of pain. I'm getting better at it with time, but it's been years and I never know when it's going to hit! I was on Fentanyl for severe back degeneration and the pain even broke through Fentanyl!!! So, I know what you are going through and the pain is so very, very scary, but please Google Costochondritis and see if it fits what you are going through. You still have to get it figured out, but do know there is a benign answer. Please keep us posted.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013


    Barb, thank you so much for your response. I appreciate it so much! The MRI came back clear, so no metastasis! Praise God!!


    The breast specialist said its scar tissue. So I may send some pics to my surgeon in NOLA to have a look. For some reason it has increased my breast size on that side as well. I know some of the ladies have went back to have them take care of necrosis. I haven't had the pain in a while. I will look in to the Costochondritis. But from googling it, I'm not sure it fits. But thank you so very much! This is exactly why I post here! You ladies are so helpful!


    Have a wonderful day and again I appreciate you responding!


    Kim

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2013


    Thank God for the clear MRI, now find out what benign issue is causing it all. Swelling from the arthritis can increase breast size...do try an arthritis Tylenol as it reduces swelling. If it helps, at least you know you won't need surgery for necrosis.

  • sbaldassari57
    sbaldassari57 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014

    Hi, I am feeling like i'm in the same boat as you.  2010 they found 3 lumps DCIS, nodes clean.  We treated it aggresively as every woman on my father's side has had their breasts removed from DCIS.  Wednesday i had an Ultra Sound because i found a lump on the same scarline as the first one and they found 10 more.  So, Mammogram scheduled for Thursday to verify if it could be all fat necrosis.  If not, they have scheduled immediately after the mamo Fine Needle Aspiration Biopsy.  :(  I am freaking out.  Not gonna lie.  Age 56 and Cancer runs rampant in my family.  I am wondering how many other women 3-4 years out find 10 lumps in the reconstructed breasts?

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited January 2014

    I had a lot of fat necrosis in my reconstructed breast and one very large lump of dead fat.  I am hoping hoping that that is what yours are.  Worst case scenario is better than finding metastic ca in lung in liver, etc, even though many women are surviving for a long time with even that.

    I will be looking for your posts about what is found.  Try to do things that distract you from thinking until you have more information.  I'm rooting for you!

    Hugs,

    Peggy

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    sbaldassari57, DCIS only grows in the ducts, so it couldn't be a recurrence, but could be a new primary. I'd be surprised that 10 areas have popped up. Good thing you are getting it checked, Make SURE they check ALL the areas now that they have pointed them out! I always worry that they'll just keep saying "fat necrosis" to me and miss an actual recurrence!! They're still watching my nodes that are growing and just under a cm, I have to be checked every 6 months. Can't remember if I mentioned that here. I try not to worry in between appointments, but it's a concern I think about. I STILL don't make long-term plans.....sigh.

  • desalonde
    desalonde Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2014

    Hi, I saw your post and thought I'd say I hear you and I will pray for you. I know you must be scared. I am. I am facing my first dx of 3 months ago; elected lumpectomy, nodes negative, but now facing radiation and scared not to do it but now on my 7th day of radiation and fearing side effects of that also.....

    I don't even want to think about recurrence , though I know that it's an possibility for all of us with this diagnosis.

    Go ahead and vent all you want. I'll try and check back with you later.

    Desalonde

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited February 2014

    I hope everyone is having a blessed day. For those who have had mx and then recuurence what is the protocol for the next step? do they do a lumpectomy? I just have implants so I don't understand how that will go. Will they take the implant out? On and to top it all off I am 20 weeks pregnant.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2014

    mom2B. Have you been diagnosed with a recurrence? I've seen a number of women successfully undertake chemo while pregnant on these boards. Apparently there are a lot of treatment chemos that don't pass the blood-fetal barrier. Keep us posted.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited February 2014

    yes, they called yesterday to tell me it was. what will be my next step? I see a lot of you are saying lumpectomy ? it should the take the implant out? Will I start chemo first? What do you ladies think would be best? I can't have the other test yet due to the pregnancy. Thank you for any input! 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2014

    mom, I don't think any of us are qualified to even guess at the next steps for you. It is your journey and will be set in place by capable hands for you to follow. Please keep us posted, we are here for you, sweetie.

  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited February 2014

    mom2b - I can not answer your questions, but I am guessing that they will be extra special careful with you and that is a good thing. Many hugs.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited February 2014

    Thank you so much for your replies!

  • Basia
    Basia Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2014

    Hi Ladies,

    I am a nervous wreck.  Originally diagnosed wit DCIS in July/August 2010, BMX Sept 2010.  Direct implants and TCH.  I finally moved on with life, leaving cancer behind me, or so I thought. About 6 weeks ago at the gym I felt something pull along the side of my implant, went to the PS, he said I pulled a scar from the stitches.  Went for routine followup with Onc. 3 weeks later, he agreed, feels like scar tissue. Mention to him this nagging cough that me and most of my family have, he wasn't concerned but said if it doesn't improve we will look at it.  Anyway, something was nagging me last week about all this and I went  to the BS. She saw it and agreed it looked like scar tissue, but needle biopsied it anyway so I can rest. Sends me to radiology for a better scan/view. The radiologist said it looked like something needing further investigation.  Get the biopsy results today and it is positive for cancer cells.  Scheduling an MRI for later this week.  Ladies, I know you aren't doctors, but what should I be prepared for? I am HER2+ and very very scared.  Thanks

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited April 2014

    Basia-I am so sorry you are dealing with this again.  It does not seem fair does it?  I have been in your shoes so I understand the panic that you must be feeling.  I always was sent for scans to see if the cancer had progressed.   The MO will need the results of your scans to decide on a treatment plan. At that point, you should have some clear answers.  

      I am so glad that you were persistent about what you were feeling around your implants.  I pray that this persistence helped them to catch it very early.    You said you did TCH before and if it is HER2+ again you will probably be doing herceptin again and possibly  adding perjeta. I just finished doing taxol and I am midway through my herceptin for the second time.  Please post back when you get more information.  I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited April 2014

    babyruth so your oncologist just had you on Taxol then Herceptin. Did you do perjeta also ??

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Basia, that SUCKS!!! My heart goes out to you and you are in my prayers, sweetie! Please keep us posted on what the docs say.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2014

    Jaimieh-I was supposed to start on Herceptin,taxol, and perjeta but my pre-herceptin echo came back with a low EF rate so my cardiologist would not allow me to start the herceptin and perjeta because they are both cardiotoxic.  My MO did not want to wait so I was approved to start the taxol only.    After a few months of medication  and an improvement in my EF rate, I was able to start herceptin but at that point could not add in the perjeta because it is supposed to be used as a first line of defense. 

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