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  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2013

    I went for my CT mapping for radiation. It wasn't that bad. For those interested this is how it went. You'll change into a gown and then be brought into a room where the CT machine is. Unfortunately I had to remove my hat because you'll probably not be wearing the same head covering every time since they make a mold for you to lay in during each treatment. I didn't really mind because frankly I'm sick of wearing hats everyday, especially in this heat. You lay down on a hard table with a "bean bag" type pillow under your shoulders and head area with your arm up. My feet were rubber banded together so that you don't cross your feet. After positioning me the way she wanted she then inflated the bag and then sucked all the air out of it and it molded right to me. Next she took some measurements and put some tape on me. Then she left the room and CT began. After coming back in she took some pictures of my position so that it will be exactly the same every time. Not the most pleasant thing since you are exposed but at this point I've flashed my boobs so much I almost don't even care anymore. LOL I was then given 3 tattoos. One on each side like by your love handles and one in my cleavage. Barely noticeable and only stung for a second. All said and done was maybe 45 minutes. I go back next Tuesday to go over the exact planning then start Rads the following week.



    Met with my MO yesterday and was told I won't start Tamoxifen until Rads are done. I asked her about the hot flashes I've had and she said taking vitamin E can help. Especially since they probably will get worse once on Tamoxifen. I'm gonna start taking that tonight. I'll report back if that helps since I know others have the same issue.



    I hope everyone is handling their last rounds of chemo with minimal side effects. You're in the home stretch.

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited June 2013

    Thanks Jen987! I was wondering about that whole process.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited June 2013

    Jen, wow! Thanks for the great description of the radiation mapping process. I am a newbie and I know some day I will be able to help someone the way you just did. Thank you, thank you.



    So I guess your MO is not putting you on anti hormonals yet. Will be interesting to see what my mo says.



    I hope you enjoy your respite from treatment and that you have some fun...also that your hot flashes go away or are lessened. I am post menopausal and have had hot flashes that I was able to tolerate...but that is not the case for all women.



    Hopefully vitamin e will help you tolerate your ses.



    Thanks again... Sandra

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    Thanks so much Jen. I am not close to being there yet, but have been wondering about how that procedure is done- so again, it i s not what I was expecting.. I just figured I'd run in get zapped on each side for five minutes and be done with it-- at least that was what I was told.. so thank you so much for sharing.. (:

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited June 2013

    Jen, thanks for describing the whole process, I have opted for rads, so that is really helpful.

    CONGRATS to all who are finishing up chemo! I find out today if we are going to stop and go ahead with surgery or just continue with the last 3 infusions of Taxol.

    Thanks for the kind comments, I appreciate them. I have stopped Neulasta, thankfully. I am not sure what is going on with me, I think a combination of the steroids and desperately wanting to get this surgery over with.

    I am praying everyone has a good day and week, and sending cyber-hugs to all who need one!

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

  • 6cats
    6cats Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2013

    Hi all... Finished my last round of AC on the 10th. Wouldn't you know it, on Day 13, my eyebrows started falling out, so now they are very thin and scraggly. I suffered minimal side effects from the AC, so thought I'd give an AC SE roundup.

    Treatment Plan, Dose Dense AC -- Adriamycin+Cytotoxan (Doxorubicin/Cyclophosphamide), 4 infusions via port followed by Day 2 Neulasta (took Zyrtec on Day 1-6). Treatment was every other week. --

    Fatigue was the constant SE, lessening on Day 12 and worst on Days 2-5. Each treatment the fatigue was worse. I had no changes in the taste of food. Dry skin got worse throughout entire treatment cycle. Mild nausea first three days easily treated by prescription medication with a second round of nausea on around days 7-9 (also treated easily with medication). Throughout treatment was able to maintain outside meeting commitments, cook dinner daily, keep up with laundry, and keep the house basically clean. Due to change in diet, gained four pounds.

    Tx#1 -- Extreme headache for 5 days, relieved only by oxycodone; extreme GI issues, daily multiple diarrhea, sores in mouth, cracks in corner of mouth. Lost 5 pounds. Clipped head on Day 9, followed by major hair loss on Days 12-14. Went to patchy bald with very thin stubble. Slight radiation recall at site of radiation.

    Tx#2 -- MO slowed down administration of pre-meds (anti-nausea medication) due to previous headache. Doc also prescribed "Magic Mouth Wash". I increased whole grains to add B Vitamins into my diet and hopefully help with the GI issues (and gained weight). At doc's recommendation, I cut back on milk products, and used generic Lactaid before having milk products. Extreme headache for first 24 hours, followed by dull headache for three more days. Diarrhea taken care of... no sores in mouth, but had cracks in corner of mouth beginning on about Day 10. Radiation recall reached blistering stage by Day 8, requiring a visit to the RO who gave me Silvadine to put on the blistered/sore areas.

    TX#3 -- MO changed nausea pre-med due to headache issues. This time extreme headache on Day 1 for ~4 hours, followed by dull headache over next 12 hours. Only GI issue was cracks in corner of mouth. Received three insect bites on Day 3 which I thought were brown recluse due to the severity of swelling and redness; Day 5 my MO prescribed antibiotics. Day 15 my MO sent me to a dermatologist, was given a cream for the bites which resolved them within a week. Derm Doc also gave me a cream for the cracks in the corners of my mouth which helped after about five days. Also had inflamed "age spots" on my arm and chest. Dermatologist said that these were likely pre-cancerous cells that the chemo had attacked. Made plans to have a full-body check after chemo is complete. Very slight radiation recall this treatment. Depression was bad with this cycle. Also started to have bladder irritation.

    Tx#4 -- delayed four days due to conference so had a few extra days to gain energy and heal. Extreme headache for ~1 hour, followed by dull ache for another four (yippee). Cracks in corner of mouth started again on Day 5 -- this time nothing would touch them (I still have them). They are rather severe and painful. Bladder & urethra irritation continued despite increase in fluid. Rather uneventful treatment.

    I hope this helps someone -- I had imagined something far worse.

    Next step for me is twelve weekly treatments of Taxol (paclitaxel) + Herceptin (Trastuzumab). I start on Thursday. I have a hard time believing weekly chemo could be easier than what I just went through, but we shall see.

  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited June 2013

    Thanks Lynn.  I just started my AC treatments last week.  My chemo regimen started in April with Taxotere treatments three weeks apart.  Gotta tell ya, so far AC is much worse Frown.  The fatigue and weakness are almost crippling, and I didn't have any nausea at all with T.   I'm trying to keep my eyes on the prize though, only three treatments left and if I stay on schedule I'll have my last AC on 31 July. 

    I hope your Taxol treatments are easier on you.

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2013

    Hi.  I did my first infusion of T (in my case, paclitaxel) 2 weeks ago.  After 4 rounds of the red devil, I expected it to be a little easier.  Silly me. 

    I opted to take Gabapentin "just in case" I was part of the 40% that might get muscle aches.  Turns out I got the aches anyway.  Severe muscle aches from the hips down lasted about 6 days; lower back pain continued all through.  I tried Tylenol 3 without much success.  After that, the hit-by-a-truck feeling took over.

    Saw my onc yesterday and she has now prescribed Hydromorphone.  She doesn't want to reduce my chemo because the tumor had been large.  So I guess I have to tough it out. I don't feel ready for another round tomorrow, but I keep telling myself that I only have 3 more.  And every round is different so who knows?

    I'm cold capping and still have a good covering of hair.  Shedding seemed to reduce in my last AC round and appeared to be much less in my first T round.  But somehow, I'm looking quite thin around the crown.  ACT is the hardest regimen on hair and it's possible that I may shed out before I get to the end.  But I believe I'm going to come out if this with hair.

  • Molinda
    Molinda Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Ladies,



    I am having my bmx with te reconstruction on Monday July 1st. Now that all of the big decisions are made and set into motion, I find myself thinking about treatments. The only thing I know for sure is that I will be doing hormone therapy. I was told that it would be tamoxifen for 5-10 yrs? I have read that femera is better than tamoxifen for ILC patients. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?



    Hugs and love to all

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited June 2013

    First Molinda, best to you on Monday. I know you are feeling anxious along with the excitement of having decisions made and the damn cancer cut out and pitched to the curb. Your surgery will answer many questions. Please let us know how you are doing when you feel able. Tamoxifen or femara? What I have read is that if you are premenopausal, taking tamoxifen, then switching to femara is a good option and good protection for you. If post meno, most mos go directly to the aromatase inhibitors and femara is just one option and a good one. Ai's do have more options to try in case ses are difficult. There are probably ladies who are more knowledgable than me. I planned to talk to my mo after chemo, have her tell me my options...then do more specific research on side effects. I am post meno.



    Sandra

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited June 2013

    Ships girl, so sorry that you are having a tough time with your paclitaxel and it's time for another treatment! Hopefully your mo will help you through these last treatments and you will find yourself on the other side soon. congrats on the success so far with the cold cap. It takes a lot of discipline to do it so hats off to you....no pun intended. Lol



    Have a side effect free day, week, and treatment cycle.



    Sandra

  • Molinda
    Molinda Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    MsPharoah,

    Thank you for your kind words, they go a long way. I can't tell you how much I appreciate everyone's support and encouragement. I will definitely keep you all posted on how things go. Here's to starting down the road to recovery and healing, I can't wait until I am in your shoes and finally done...

    Love & Hugs

  • PamelaKay
    PamelaKay Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2013

    Had my first Taxol/Herceptin on Tuesday. Got there at 8:30 a.m., left at 5:30 p.m. No problems or reactions. Yesterday was fine, but today I'm feeling sore fingertips and a bit achy and tired. I'm starting L-Glutamine, B6, and B12 today.



    That was the last treatment at the original infusion center. I'll start next Tuesday at the infusion center my oncologist has moved to (with my herceptin only infusion). I stopped in there yesterday to check it out. The infusion center is run by the hospital, and it shows. All very sterile, regimented, and formal. I will definitely miss the old, informal and cozy infusion center where "everybody knows your name." At the hospital center the first thing they do (after you sign a dozen forms) is slap a wrist bracelet on you, so I guess they don't need to actually know you or your name.



    I've now seen three different MOs at the old practice for each of my last three treatments. Maybe if I come to regret staying with Dr J and moving to the hospital infusion center, I'll just trot back across the street and beg them to take me back.



    It's a bad omen that they didn't have my Tuesday treatment on their schedule. Apparently Dr. J forgot when she gave them the orders for her patients for next week.



    ShipsGirl, I believe Gabapentin is only for nerve pain. I don't think it is supposed to help muscle pain.



    Molinda, best to you on Monday. I'll send some light your way.



    Hushkat, hope the fatigue eases up. I found there was a definite pattern to it, with the worst being from days 3 to 6, then getting better from there. Keep up with the anti-nausea meds. They gave me 3 prescriptions to keep the nausea at bay, and I used them all at one point or another.



    Heather, hugs and encouragement to you. Let us know what the decision is.



  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited June 2013

    You know its really crazy to think that we all been here since April. It has felt like a life time to me! But its only been about 3 months now.I talk with my family about everyone like we have been friends for ever.I know if its wasn't for all of us being here togeather I could not of done this as well as I have! There is some that I have not heard from in a while that I hope are still doing good. Everyone is still in my heart .

    To all that are finally have surgery soon ,the best of luck for a fast recovery and if we can help you in any way,please ask..

    It also seems that some are starting taxol and herceptin. I will be starting Wednesday. For some damm reason I am really scared of the unknown.

    PamelaKay,are you only getting one taxol.I dont understand that. Sorry you are starting in a new place. Hope it all works out.

    It's also good to know what is going to happen with radiation.I wish I was there now ,knowing its all most over. But we all will make it to the end of this crazy road together. Thats a great felling!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited June 2013

    Hello ladies...today my dd and family are visiting for the weekend. It's going to be 117 degrees in Vegas this weekend! I hope I can hold up...just been so tired as the days go by. I have been able to work every day but treatment day, but I generally go to bed as soon as I get home. Last night I didn't have the energy to have dinner. I've also noticed that I can only finish about 1/2 my normal exercise routine. I have two more TC treatments to go so I will remain hopeful that this is as tired as a person can get. I also have a bad case of taxotears. My eyes and nose run all the time. I am lucky that my dh takes care of everything...how will I ever be able to thank my loved ones...why do they have to suffer too? Weep.



    So, I just noticed that I have to shave my legs again. WHAT? Maybe at my age, none of my normal cells are fast growing?



    I hope you all have a wonderful weekend, none or minimal side effects and sweet cuddles from your loved ones.



    Sandra

  • Molinda
    Molinda Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Hi girls,



    This is going to make me crazy! Apparently I have used my arm too much after sentinel node biopsy that it has gone numb. Damned ADD! If I can't keep still enough now what am I going to do after BMX. This is maddening!

  • 6cats
    6cats Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2013

    Annie11595 -- I had my first Taxol+Herceptin yesterday... don't know why, but I'm freaked out also... maybe it is the thought of weekly chemo for the next 12 weeks... but I feel your pain. I survived yesterday, panicked last night, and am exhausted today.

  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited June 2013

    6cats,please keep in touch on how you are doing! Its really silly how we both fell. After every thing we have been threw so far. But I will be counting every week knowing when its done the worst will be over with. May it be the fastest 12 weeks ever with not much se.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2013

    Sorry I've been away. I was hospitalized to rule out heart attack, blood clot, or infection (it wasn't any of these), and then went on business travel for 5 days. I'm exhausted!



    Saw a RO on Friday and it looks like I'll be having radiation after all. 5 weeks, 5 days a week.



    I'm so disappointed. Plus, I may miss taking my son to college! I hope I can work out the timing so I can go!



    I'm doing my catch-up reading now!



    XO

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2013

    Toothache!



    I can tell a past problem spot in my mouth (near the bone above an upper molar) may be infected. It's an area above a molar, and requires surgery to be treated. Will I have to just suffer with this pain til after my rads??



    Anyone have this happen?



  • Molinda
    Molinda Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Katie,



    I'm glad you are back. So sorry for your toothache it is unbelievable how things attack us when we are at our lowest. I can't believe after ruling out a heart attack that you went on a 5 day business trip! You are either very strong or hard headed...lol I know for me, it's the latter. Fyi tomorrows bmx has now been upgraded to a modified radical bmx. Woo hoo lucky me! Praying for all of you. Hugs and love

    Melinda

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2013

    Good luck tomorrow, Mo. I'll be thinking of you.

  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2013

    Beherenow,I'm so sorry you were in the hospital! That had to be scary. But glad it was not your heart or a blood clot. I can not believe you went on a trip for 5 days. Hopefully they gave you something to help with the pain in your mouth.5 weeks of radiation seems like so much. But it looks like a lot of us will be doing the same. Its just crazy how everything has to stop to have this done every day. I hope you can find a way to take your son! I know how important it must be for you!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited July 2013

    Molinda, thinking of you today and praying your surgery goes smoothly and that you are comfortable in your recovery.  Let us know how you are doing when you are able.

    Katie..sounds like you have had a lot of excitement lately.  So glad that the hospital was a scare only and that your doctors are taking good care of you.  I have not had any teeth problems but was warned by my dentist that chemo is really damaging and that any work that is needed needs to be done before chemo.  He won't touch me until October this year so I am praying that my old teeth hold out.  I have been using flouride treatments but unfortunately as the chemo progresses and the nauseau, using those mouth guards and ickly paste causes me to (you know....) so I have become averse to using the treatment.  Hope my teeth are OK.  I remember taking my children to college.  It was so exciting for the whole family and not something you want to miss.  My daughter and I had a lot of fun shopping and decorating her dorm room.  My son didn't want to have us do anything but drop his stuff off in his room and take him to a steak lunch.  Pretty sure there were many useful items in those boxes that were never unpacked.  LOL.  But it is still a day I remember fondly and if you can swing it, an activity that you won't want to miss either.  Talk to your doctors...maybe they can figure out a way to accomodate you. 

    Tomorrow is my 5th of 6 TC chemos.  This past weekend, DD, DSIL and my wonderful grandsons visited.  The weather was so unbearably hot but we managed to have fun.  My daughter noticed that I have really slowed down. (her words)  She has a friend who had breast cancer who has been my rock during all this and her friend told us that it took about a year to get her energy back after chemo and radiation...but she had small children when she was treated so maybe that affected her recovery.  I just don't know how young mothers do this.  I am in awe.

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited July 2013

    Katie, welcome back! So sorry to hear about your troubles, hoping you are better?

    Molinda, best to you! I find out Wed. when my surgery will be, onc. decided to hold last two Taxol treatments for after MTX and so he is adamant, surgery in three weeks (got my last pre-surgery Taxol Friday). I am so nervous and scared, but have the wisdom of all of you to help pull me through. You made it out the other side after all!

    I agree with Anne, without all of you I NEVER would have made it through. On to the Taxol, I have had two, the first no problems, this past one severe sweating, insomnia and feeling depressed still. My nails, unfortunately, have gotten brittle and a little yucky, not black but definitely darker.

    To all the newbies, those graduating from chemo, I am SO happy for all of you!

    Hoping to get this depression and anxiety under control soon, cannot be going into surgery like this!

    Just curious, I read somewhere that it is possible the insurance may cover only prosthesis OR reconstruction? I am so worried about the insurance not covering reconstruction in 6 months, but have been strongly advised by surgeon not to get reconstruction until after rads. Anyone want to alleviate my fears? =)

    Happy Monday all, blessings all around.

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited July 2013

    Heather, take a look at this American Cancer Society link regarding the Women's health and cancer rights act.  I think you are covered sweetie!!

    Onward with your surgery, chemo and reconstruction and best to you.

    http://www.cancer.org/treatment/findingandpayingfortreatment/managinginsuranceissues/womens-health-and-cancer-rights-act

    Sandra

  • rdhdchick
    rdhdchick Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2013

    Hi Everyone,

    Fairly new to the site, so forgive me if I am repeating anything you wonderful women have already covered! Just had my second of four Taxtotere/Cytoxan treatments (not bad compared to so many others), and I have a terrible itchy rash on my poor stubbly scalp. The hair came out right on schedule at 14 days, shaved and was fine for a week until the second dose of T/C. I've been washing regularly and moisturizing with SPF 30 lotion, but this is just so itchy! Tonight I washed with surgical wash (Hibiclens) and had my daughter put aloe on the spots to cool and reduce them. Any other ideas? Has anyone else had a surefire way of dealing with this?

    I've not been wearing my wig or hats or scarves, just going bare due to the heat...

    Thanks and my best to all!

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited July 2013

    MsPharoah

    We must be on the same schedule as I have my 5th of 6 TC tomorrow as well.  I'll be thinking of you.  We enjoyed this past weekend with three of our four grandchildren too. Having them to distract me and to keep as a goal for getting well is sooo worth it.

    Btw, my two year old granddaughter walks faster than I do right now so that's how I've noticed how much I've slowed down.  

    Good luck tomorrow!  

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited July 2013

    Rdhdchick, when I had the itchy bumps (I think it was also after round 2), hydrogen peroxide worked really well to calm the itchiness & get rid of them. I ran out of peroxide and switched to white vinegar which worked equally well. Hope it helps you too!

    I am almost 3 weeks out from my final round. I am feeling a lot better, just a few lingering side effects (eye twitch, some leg pain, slight neuropathy, etc.) I find I get tired much more easily, but have a good amount of energy in between tired spells, if that makes sense! Also my hair is miraculously already growing back! I'm not sure how that's even possible because it didn't grow back between treatments but I have a very sparse centimeter covering and some stubble coming in. Looks totally bald unless you are up close but I'm still excited to see some growth!

    You ladies will get through this!!!! If I can do it, you all can too. :)

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2013

    I had my simulation today and I start rads on Monday. 35 treatments, 28 regular and 7 boosts. Basically they position you on the table and do all kinds of measurements and do a trial run. It was very easy. I was there there a total 20 minutes.



    Yesterday was 4 weeks pfc and I'm still doing great. Although I hate to report that my eyebrows are very thin and I have a few empty spots on my lower lashes. Top lashes may have thinned out a bit too but I am blessed with thick long lashes so it's not noticeable. Just when I started feeling good I'm starting to look sick. Ugh. Hair on my head may be growing too because my white scalp isn't showing as much. I didn't shave my head with a razor so I've always had a little fuzz.



    I have been taking vitamin E for the hot flashes and I think it's helping. I'm not soaking wet in the middle of the night as much as before. I also started taking Biotin so as my hair grows in it will be stronger.



    Have a great 4th of July and stay strong.









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