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  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited June 2013

    Study411- I have been working full time through treatment, and probably have some of the worst skin issues on this thread. I've taken two sick days (one for fatigue and 1 when my skin first started breaking down). I also have the option to work from home if I need to. So far I have only done that twice. It's not easy but doable. My employer knows about my skin issues and has let me know that whatever I can manage to get dressed in that day is ok to wear to the office, so that helps. Not sure what I am going to do next week though. Since surgery I have been wearing sports bras, but due to some skin breakdown under my arm I can't even get those on anymore. I absolutely refuse to go out in public without a bra. On Saturday I tried putting a Telfa pad in that area, and it sort of worked, just not sure I can take it all day.



    Honestly though.....most of the women on this thread are doing ok with skin issues. Even with my issues I think working is mostly doable. Having something to do can keep your mind off things.



    Wishing you a smooth journey through rads

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Ms. Study411 - as many of the other folks have already stated, RADS is no big deal.  Chemo almost killed me but I have done 12/15 RADS treatments with simultaneous boosts and have been just fine.  My skin has been OK and I have not noticed any major fatigue.  I lost my job when I got sick so I do not have to worry about missing work right now.  I HATE not working!  It is boring and ego deflating but I just have to get through these last few treatments and then the salpingo oopherectomy  then on to the lovely AI drugs.  I did not tolerate Tamoxifen and I am VERY worried about the AI's but my MO says he will find a drug that will agree with me.  HA!  We shall see.  The moral of the story is that as long as you take good care of your skin, RADS should not be that bad.  I will hope and pray that that is the case for you.

    And Ms. Heart - I wear cotton camisoles that I buy for less that $6 at the evil Wal-mart.  They have a bra built in and are very comfy.  I even wear them to bed under my PJ's because I was banned from wearing my underwire bras and at 52 years old, I want my ta tas to stay perky.  All the best!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    Heart, I also have been wearing camisoles for a while.  If you get one without the built in bra, it might be more comfortable.  Then throw a loose shirt over it to hide the lack of bra.  I like layering a tighter camisole with a looser one. I  got a few cute loose ones at Kohls

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    study - I felt like I had to do everything that was suggested - I don't ever want to be faced with regret.. Rads is 90% easier than chemo..as far as working, I haven't missed a day of work but did have to go home 2 days because of fatigue - had a couple other days I would have liked to be home becasue of tiredness but pushed through and was glad to be able to stay at work.

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    I think most women find rads to be a lot easier than chemo. I had skin breakdown this week--very painful--and I have to say that I couldn't have worked for a couple of those days. I still have quite a bit of pain today and am taking Percocet in the evening and during the night so I can sleep. This will pass. I am a teacher - - not working right now, but I think even with the breakdown I wouldn't miss that many days. Fatigue has not been a big issue for me.

    I wear a camisole or nothing at all (feels best) on top. Bras will not work at this point.



    Those of you just starting, chances are you will do fine and maybe get pink. My RO said I'd get quite red with the treatment she was doing so I had fair warning. Still, I'd rather this than the chemo. Red Devil was a devil and I still have neuropathy from the Taxotere.

    Keep slathering on your moisturizer of choice even if you don't yet have any skin damage. You will do fine. It goes very fast!



    Good to hear PT is helping GoWithTheFlow. I also felt so much better once the cording was worked out. Now I am very tight from the rads. I will see my PT in a week or two. Hard to do all my stretches now that my skin is compromised but I have confidence that it will be fine in the not too distant future.



    Gentle hugs to all,

    Linda 27/30

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    Study411--I was also thinking I would not need rads because my pathology was good after chemo and mastectomy. But the stats for recurrence convinced me that, with an aggressive cancer such as I had, rads are the right thing to do. I started treatment right after Labor Day and will finish rads on Wednesday... a long haul but I do not want to ever deal with this again so it has been worth it to reduce my risk. I get weekly Herceptin infusions through November but only have some muscle and joint soreness from that. Two days after Herceptin is finished, my hubby and I are taking off on a much needed vacation. I can go feeling good that I have done everything to win against bc. If you worked through chemo, rads will seem much easier overall. :-)

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited June 2013

    Ahhhh.... Another week of rads begins......



    Cmbernardi- thank you for the suggestion. I had my daughter stop on her way home to get me some cotton camis. Had her get the ones without the built in bra though. When I tried on one of her's before she left, the elastic on the bra hit just right on my sores on the side so it didn't work.



    Only 3 boosts to go for me!!! Tried to go to work this morning, but had a lot of new skin break down over the weekend. Only lasted a couple of hours. Planning on working from home for the next couple of days. Thankfully I can do that. On the upside I had run out of tramadol, but got a refill on that and more lidocaine. So my skin is much worse, but my pain meds situation is much better so I am doing ok. :-)



    How is everyone else doing?

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    disappointed here - thought I was done on Thursday but found out today I have 6 -7 more treatments - didn't know the boosts would extend the treatments... RO ordered me some kind of cream for my burny skin, drug store has to order it and won't have it until tomorrow afternoon..

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    I'm so sorry IamNancy.  That's got to be the worst.  I know when I heard "4 rounds of taxol weekly" and I understood it to be 4 weeks total, I was devastated when I realized it was 12 weeks total.  ((HUGS))

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    Oh Heart, isn't this the pits? So sorry you are also having further breakdown!!! Pain meds and lidocaine are the only way to go right now. This will pass, or so I keep telling myself.



    I had a lot of new skin breakdown over the weekend too, and was bleeding from four spots this morning. When I told the tech this morning that the bolus had won another round, she said that it did exactly what it is supposed to do. So now I am picturing the missing skin as cancer, even though my post surgery pathology was clear, and I am trying to be glad the treatment is doing its job. Mind games, huh!



    And how very frustrating for you, IamNancy!!! My heart skipped a beat when I read your post. I will try to think positive - - that your new cream will soothe you, and the boosts won't cause further problems for you. Geez!!!!



    Idesim--We are 14/15ths done with treatment. I hope the week after doesn't push us over any more edges. I have had it with this. Time to put it behind us and move on toward healing.



    Gentle hugs to all

    Linda 28/30

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    Yes, we get our minds around a treatment regimen and it is almost unthinkable to lengthen it! We get pushed to the edge, don't we?!!

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited June 2013

    So sorry IamNancy. That just sucks! Talk about taking the wind out of your sails. I really hope your new cream helps. It's a bummer they can't get it today.



    Lin43- I am sorry you had a bad weekend too. This skin breakdown stuff is the pits, and it just never stops hurting. When you skin your knee it mostly stops really hurting after a few hours, but for some reason this just doesn't. Not sure why so many other women make it through with no problems and we didn't. (Yup....feeling pretty sorry for us right now)



    Saw a new RO today since mine is on vacation. Turns out my nurse practitioner lied to me last week. When I was really getting beaten up by the skin issues and pain she told me not to worry that I should see some improvement by Sunday. When my skin got a lot worse this weekend I was wondering what was wrong with me that it wasn't getting better like it was supposed to. New RO told me to expect the bad areas that I have now to start getting better maybe by next week, but expect the boost area to break down pretty fast. What the h&$@ happened to starting to get better by Sunday?!?! I almost cried, and I pretty much never cry.



    Feeling pretty down right now.

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    Heart, that just sucks.  If they just told us the truth of what to expect, at least we would be prepared.  (((HUGS)))

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    I can relate to you ladies having skin problems.  I had my last two boosts last mon/tues, by Friday night I was in tears from the discomfort and went to the dr today.  Without going into too much detail my nipple is fried.  The nurse told me today that this happens to alot of women and is totally normal although having all this irritation is driving me NUTS! I cant stand anything against it and the dead skin is falling off replaced with angry skin and swollen tissue.  Just when I thought it was over. :(   I look in the mirror and one of these things definitely does not look like the other!   and to top it off this last weekend in a restaurant I heard a lady at another table telling her friend my hat with hair wasn't my real hair, my sister mean-mugged them while I felt like throwing it in the middle of her table 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Do the boosts tend to cause more pain & breakdown than the initial rads do? I start next Monday. 25 with 5 boosts.



    Paula

  • LeeLeeLynn
    LeeLeeLynn Member Posts: 23
    edited June 2013

    If anyone is looking for a product that doesn't have petroleum, mineral oil, fragrance or parabens, today I found Aloe Body Butter in a green tub at The Body Shop at the Mall.

  • AnnieLane
    AnnieLane Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2013

    IamNancy, I am wondering if I am in for the same surprise. My RO went on vacation just as I started treatments. He worked up my treatment plan and skipped town! The techs at the treatment center only told me I was having 25 treatments and each of these first 3 weeks I've seen a different RO. I will finally see mine this Thursday.

    My husband had radiation for skin cancer in his ear canal last year and our dermatologist gave him a bunch of samples of Biafine, which is a very expensive prescription. She wrote me a prescription for it too, but it's so expensive I decided not to get it filled unless I really need it. I've been using one of the little sample tubes each day, but I'll run out of those soon. I'm also using aloe gelly, emu oil and the cream they gave me at the treatment center. My nipple is puckered and red and my incision area is tender, but nothing too awful so far, although I have at least 9 treatments to go.

    I'm so sorry for those of you who are having such a miserable time Cry

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    Heart and Melody_-- You are not alone! I cried for awhile yesterday evening when another area broke down. I have reached my limit and the pain never relents so another area torn apart was just too much to bear. I understand your horror at being told your boost area will break down quickly now, Heart, especially since you were thinking that you are almost done with these horrific complications. Last night, to try to escape my current painful physical state, I took my Percocet, my melatonin, and headed to bed at 7:30. Then I took another Percocet when I woke up after 11. Right now I will do whatever I can to reduce pain.



    My friends all tell me what a great attitude I have had through all my treatment, and I am usually tough but sometimes the tears just have to flow. The level of pain from skin breakdown has taken me by surprise, and the fear of what may still happen is very real.



    I don't know why you have broken down this much, Heart. :-( My RO expected me to have major problems given my daily bolus but you weren't expecting such problems, were you? Anyone who says they did great because they moisturized the "right" way really doesn't know what they are talking about because skin breakdown is so individual -- all the moisturizing in the world may or may not help. No one should fear or feel overly confident about what their radiation experience will be like. Most make it through without too much difficulty.



    I have had three boosts so far over an area that is 2" by 10".The area has become angry red and swollen. Granted, it was red before the boosts but the swelling is sudden and the color is now like a cabernet. I am broken down above and on the top edge of the boost area--I don't know how I can handle more breakdown in this area.



    I have an infusion after radiation tomorrow. I'll be wearing a loose top with nothing underneath. A bra with prosthesis just isn't possible right now. The looseness of my top will hide my uniboober status a bit but like Melody's sister, I could deck someone if they made a comment about anyone's post-cancer physical appearance! They should be counting their blessings and be extra polite to some one who they think might have just been through treatment. You are a warrior Melody! Hold your beautiful head up high and be proud!!!

    I lost my hair with chemo and now that it is four months later, I get loads of compliments on my hair cut. HA

    !

    I think I just wrote a "book". On my phone, no less. So much emotion to let out!!!



    Gentle hugs and much support to all!

    Linda

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    Ladies - I see quite a few of us feeling the same way - truthfully this is the first time I have felt like crying doing this whole bc ordeal..I know how you all feel - we just wanna be done and onto healing/recovery... the painful skin is awful.. I hope my new cream helps..RO said it would but I almost don't trust them anymore..

    Melody --and on top of everything else you overheard that lady at the resturant.. I can hardly stand my wig now that my hair is beginning to grow back.. its only 1/4 of an inch or less but it makes the wig slide all around..I wish I had the nerve to just go topless but I don't..

    Lin, Heart, Melody and all you ladies - I wish for all of us health and healing..

  • TMM60
    TMM60 Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2013

    I'm on 31/35 with the last 7 as boosts. My skin in lobster red and sensitive but still intact. Lubing like crazy to try and keep it that way. However, fatigue hit me like a ton of bricks this morning. Feels like chemo fatigue and I thought I'd left all of that in my rear view mirror weeks ago. Oh well, this too shall pass.

  • Michele2013
    Michele2013 Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2013

    Linda, I am sorry for your pain. You are right, everyone reacts differently from chemo and rads. I only got 2 blisters and redness. Lots of itching. Think what saved me from a lot of pain is my masectomy. The area is numb.



    If I have to wear my wig I will. When I did not wear it I wore a bandana or hat, people seem to show more compassion. I did notice when I wore my wig, I got bumped into and cut off. Through my surgeries and chemo, I needed compassion due to weakness.



    If I heard someone comment about my wig, I would have thrown it in the air and yelled squirrel! But that's just me:)

  • corky60
    corky60 Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2013

    Today is 21/33.  I have completely switched from Eucerin cream to Lotrimin in the crease and Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera gel everywhere else.  I apply the aloe four times per day.  I have been using Dove unscented soap daily, so far so good.  No bra at home and any other time if I can hide the braless look with a loose over blouse or jacket.  The bra retains the heat and perspiration which makes things worse.  Tomorrow I see the nurse and dr. and they can tell me if the skin still looks okay.  The day after that is measuring day for the boosts.  I was actually able to get on my tummy yesterday for a massage so I am a happy happy girl.

  • Heart2930
    Heart2930 Member Posts: 139
    edited June 2013

    Paula- the boosts are going along my whole scar to the nipple.(I had a lumpectomy). They are a much higher and more concentrated dose of radiation than I was getting for the whole breast, so he does expect that area to break down faster. It is only barely hanging on now. I guess if you don't have skin issues up to the point of the boost you will probably fare much better with them.



    Linda and Nancy- don't you just want to start screaming? I am just afraid that if I start I won't stop. Enough with the pain already!




    I agree with you about the moisturizers Linda. I did everything right too. I don't think I own a t-shirt that is not grease stained from the aquafor at this point. Initially I did expect problems since my skin is so light and sensitive, but then my RO told me that really isn't a good indicator. He said just because you burn and do not tan doesn't really predict how you will do on radiation. We would just have to wait and see. So he gave me hope, but yes I did expect some problems. Just not this bad. At least we are almost done, so hopefully by this time next week we will be in somewhat better shape.



    Melody- Urgh!! I think cancer should give you a "get out of jail free" card for slugging someone who desperately deserves it. Stupid people suck! I am so sorry you had that experience.



    TMM60- sorry about your fatigue. I definitely know what that is like. Hopefully it get's better. I had some fatigue issues that got pretty bad around week 2-3, but miraculously they went away. Hopefully your will too.


    Sending gentle <<<hugs>>>> to everyone.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    I wonder if this would work for rads.....I took care of my favorite aunt in my home for 3 years, changing diapers, the whole 9 yards after she suffered a fall in her home. She had some minor brain damage and couldn't walk after the fall.



    At one time after getting 5 rounds of antibiotics for a recurring UTI she developed C-Diff. She was in rehab for 2 months after another set back and hospital stay. She got a horrible diaper rash in the rehab. A bright red, raw, rash. Nurses worked on it for 2 months and it was barely better. When she came home I treated it with Aquaphor with about 5 TBS of Mylanta mixed in. The burning rash was completely gone in 3 days. The visiting nurse told me, it was the Zinc Oxide in the mylanta.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Well Sister Warriors, I too feel like crying all day today but for no real apparent reason.  Perhaps it is because I have not been sleeping very well and every joint in my body is aching.  I have rationalized that the pain is still due to the chemo but I had my last treatment and shot on May 1 and 2 so who knows!  Tomorrow is my LAST day of RADS and thankfully, my skin has held up pretty well.  I saw my RO today and she gave me her blessing and some samples of Aquaphor to use from this point on to keep my skin in good shape.  She also told me NOT to remove the stickers that they placed on my breast to mark where they should do the RADS as it could cause blistering.  I am so thankful to be almost done with the radiotherapy that if I were not so sore everywhere, I would do a big HAPPY DANCE!  For my next trick, I must have a salpingo oophectomy next month so my MO can put my body into menopause and then find a AI drug that I can tolerate as I could not tolerate the Tamoxifen for more than 6 days.  I will pray for all of you who are having pain and skin problems and ask God to hasten the healing, promise. Until then, Peace, Prayers, Love, Hugs and Blessings to you ALL today and everyday in the future.

    Carolyn

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    Nancy--I remember that stage when my hair was 1/2 inch and the wig slid around. Shortly thereafter I decided to go "topless". I was headed out with my husband and he asked if I was going to get a wig or scarf, and I paused and said "no"! He said no wig or scarf? And I said "no nothing" and headed out. Bless his heart, he trotted out after me and has never said a word about my hair. Now, four months after chemo, I get compliments from strangers about my hair cut. It is pretty funny cuz it isn't a cut, it's a grow-out! I just smile and say thank you.;-) Hang in there cuz sometime soon you will be able to ditch the wig and feel the freedom.

    Carolyn--Thank you for your kind words. I hope your pain subsides a bit. My integrative medicine oncologist put me on 1200mg. of Turmeric (with black pepper in it) for my pain. It took about two weeks and then I felt a bit better--much more manageable. My pain is from the Herceptin that I will be infused with through November. It affects some women this way--others not. We are all unique, that is for sure.

    Soteria--You are onto something with the zinc oxide. My son is doing pharmacy school and the pharmacist he works with also mentioned putting mylanta in aquaphor (my son recommended swishing mylanta and children's liquid benedryl for my chemo mouth sores and it helped!). Another recommendation for the skin is something called Calmoseptine, for after rads is over, though. It is fairly thick, has zinc oxide and menthol (for pain relief) and you don't have to remove it if you aren't doing rads. You may have to ask a pharmacist as some keep it behind the counter but it doesn't need a prescription. I guess it is hard to remove so you just leave it on through showers and such and it heals the skin and wears off on its own. I can't wait until tomorrow is over and I can put whatever I want on my skin! No more worry about "metals".



    Hang in there, Heart. You are armed and ready to combat whatever your skin throws at you now. We will move beyond this!



    I got a card today from a friend that says,"Wouldn't it be nice if life were like a DVD...and you could fast forward through crummy times! Hang in there!" Here's hoping we are all hanging in there just a little bit longer!



    Gentle hugs to all,

    Linda 29/30 Idesim and Carolyn!!! One more day of rads for the three of us!

  • Lin43
    Lin43 Member Posts: 108
    edited June 2013

    TMM60--Four more! Yes!!! I hope your skin hangs in there. Keep the moisturizing going after rads, too, cuz I have heard of ladies who were intact and quit lubing and then broke down a week later. You are smart about it and will come out just fine!



    Michelle--Good that you finished without much pain. I had my mastectomy in early March but had cording so had to wait over two months for rads. Blasted sensation came back for me in those two months. Oh well, it is what it is.



    Go Corky, glad you are doing well. Coming to the home stretch now!

  • ldesim
    ldesim Member Posts: 1,333
    edited June 2013

    I can't believe I am facing my last treatment tomorrow... for anybody just starting, it sounds like forever, but it goes by relatively quickly.  The worst week for me was the 5th, I had on and off fatigue and skin discomfort.  Since I've been on the boosts the discomfort has eased up considerably.  The really bad area under my armpit is now peeling and there is new soft skin underneath. 

    I have been able to wear a bra throughout by wearing a cotton t shirt underneath, plus I could keep the Aquaphor or the radiation cream on 24/7 by doing this without ruining my bra or other clothing.  Needless to say the T-shirts will be chucked very soon :)

    Soteria, I found the boots to be easier than the regular radiation as it was a smaller area that targeted the incision site.. so maybe the skin is tougher there? I have no trouble at all in that area, only the slightest pink.

    Michele, laughing over the tossing in the air of the wig.  

    Lin, your hair must grow fast!! I'm 4 months out and it is still so short... it's getting thicker, but way too short :(  IamNancy, I won't go wigless either.. but as far as the slipping, I haven't had a problem when I wear a nylon cap over my hair.

    TMM60, hopefully the fatigue phase passes you by quickly... that to me was the worst SE of all.

    Melody that is awful what you overheard.. how dare they.. you would think people would have compassion, not make nasty comments.. I wish you had just whipped your wig onto their table.

    Heart, I am sorry you are having such issues, you seem to have had the worst time of this phase and I can only hope that you heal fast :(

    Iamnancy, just read about your extended treatment.. I am sick for you, to find out you had an additional week must have been devastating *hugs*

    I am so sad to hear about the pain and skin issues some of you have been dealing with, I can only hope that the healing is quick and this all becomes a bad memory.

    {{{{gentle hugs}}}}

  • TMM60
    TMM60 Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2013

    Hang in there my sisters, soon all of this will be in our past! Lube liberally and free boob when you can. Aren't we wild women? Tattoos, naked pictures, going braless, sporting our skin heads and free boobing- LOL!

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    Thank you for the kind words ladies, it made me really uncomfortable and I couldn't wait to get out of there.  I think the reason I had problems with the boosts is because I had a shorter treatment so I got a more intense dose and since they removed my tumor at the edge of the aereola that area got hammered the last 4 treatments. I'm a week since my last treatment and still miserable, but this too shall pass and then I'm on the downhill.  I started taking the full dose of tamoxifen a week ago and seem to be doing ok with that. Congratulations to everybody finishing this week!

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