DIEP 2013
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My surgery is on Wednesday. I was talking to my SIL about it today and I suddenly was thinking that I was crazy to do this. People look at you like your crazy when you explain this surgery! I know I want this implant out and I know I'm not happy with how I am now, but please tell me this doubt is normal and that I will be happy with this diep. I'm really doubting myself right now.
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shechirple....4 weeks out and back to work is a pretty ambitious goal! Even if your work is a "desk job", you'll be having to adhere to a schedule, probably be reaching, getting up/down, and of course, commuting. All these things consume a lot more energy than you realize! Please don't overdo things, and please don't get discouraged if your energy seems shortlived! Also, remember that at this stage, it's pretty rare to have a "nothing" scar....all that softening and fading takes a whole lot of time.
mammalou.... Trying to explain your reasons to someone who hasn't lived in a post bc body, is a great way, I think, to put doubts in your mind. I'm sure you have gone through the pro's and con's of this recon many times before deciding to go for it. I don't mean to imply that "should I, shouldn't I" aren't part of the thinking, but at a week out......your doubts are likely more the normal feeling that come with trading the known for the unknown.
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What we used to recommend for our diep/tram ladies considering return to work, was to try and simulate it for a while.
Eg. Spend a week getting up at work-time, drive around, then keep moving all morning or do as much activity as you normally would at work, allow a "lunch-break", then "work" all afternoon.
People do not realise how much more stressful it is on the body to be doing a full-time job as opposed to being able to get up at your leisure and rest whenever you feel like it at home. So set a "schedule" and stick to it for a week so that you have a better idea of how well you will stand up to an actual working week.
I wandered down to our old dog-walking places near the Bow River today. The paths are nowhere in sight, and the river power is simply scary. Also, the mozzies are out in force ...... I didn't linger very long!Too sad.
Will be busy tomorrow organising a BBQ for son#2's 22nd birthday. Good. No time to dwell!Thanks for all the kind thoughts everyone! -
Goldie, after mx I didn't have any feeling on armpits either and now,2 months later, I only have feeling on one armpit. My BS said that the feeling might not be coming back, so I decided to do laser hair removal. I don't want to shave the side of my boob on accident!
My mom had her mx 13 years ago and never got the feeling back.
I think it has a lot to do with how much breast tissue you have under your arm. I know I had a lot under my right side, and that's the side that is still numb. -
Goldie, very little skin was discarded, the MX incision was opened and tidied up, the flap was inserted and sutured into place. The scar looks like a football. The PS was pleasantly surprised that there was way less rads damage than she anticipated.
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Mammalou.......your feelings are COMPLETELY normal........I was a mess for days before my DIEP.......I talked to my boobs before the surgery, as crazy as it sounds, because I needed to have closure over something so momentous in my life....and , although I am over-simplifying it, between that "conversation, and Ativan, I made it into surgery........and I haven't ever regretted the choice I made to do it. You WILL get through this, but at this point, it might help NOT to over think it!
Morwenna, the advice to schedule out your day as if you WERE at work is great! Sometimes I think that because we "bounce back" from DIEP more quickly than we anticipated, that we are thinking we are good to go, whether it's to work, or the gym, or, whatever......and, boy, are we In for a surprise......takes a LOT longer to feel somewhat normal (energy-wise) than we assumed!
So sorry to see the widespread destruction in the Calgary area.......very sad. So many seem to have been impacted by this freakish weather.....hopefully the area will see clearing skies VERY SOON. I don't want to sound like an ignorant Yank (but I am).....what are mozzies?
I have feeling in both armpits.....never lost it, but I was not overly-endowed, either. I also had no lymph nodes taken from the area.....maybe that's why......
TimTam update........just rec'd a shipment today.......should last me long enough to try and find a local source! I am a happy camper........
To those in recovery stage, and to those going in this next week......in your pockets!
(((Hugs))) to all.....
Namaste and God bless - Jackie -
Movie, mozzies are the dreaded mosquitoes . . . with all that stagnant water it is almost a given that they will breed in abundance.
Feeling in armpit was lost after MX, but it came back. Did not lose it with DIEP 5 weeks ago.
Off to bed now. Somehow not really sleepy, but have to try.
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Whoops!!!! RE: Mozzies.......must live where they are not that big of an issue....had NO idea! Thanks Liefie! Sleep tight, and don't let the mozzies bite!
XO
Jackie -
Mammalou - Ditto about the wanting to back out at the last minute. I think that's completely normal. But I had a different reaction when I was talking to people. They all looked shocked, but then said , ' That's amazing that they can DO that!' or 'That's exciting'. Everyone seemed surprised - but in a good way. Lots of excitement over the notion of being rebuilt, using all your own stuff,mandate creating brand new boobs, untouched by disease.
I'm still amazed they can do this too. -
i was released from the hospital yesterday. Did well on the 1 hour car ride home, but then I got really sore yesterday afternoon. I felt really terrible and sort of wished I still had a cathetar back in so I wouldn't have to get up. Blech! Thankfully after a good night's rest, I feel much better. I have a blister on my flap- it is pretty nasty looking and I keep expexting it to pop or start oozing but it hasn't yet.
When does the flap become the same temperature as the rest of your body? My doctor said that it looks great, doppler sounds great, and really the only issue is the blister. I am still really paranoid about the temperature though! -
mammalou- your doubts are totally normal. I had my surgery last wednesday, and I had a TE before that, so of course I was unhappy with that thing, but honestly I can tell my results will be good. I am still the size of a cantaloupe but truly- I feel very good about what I have going on here
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Damiana- So glad to see that you are home already! That's amazing. I'm sending little blister blasting prayers your way!
My ps expects me to stay in hospital for six days- hope I can (like you) be a fast healer too. My surgery is july 2 and I'm hopeful that I'll be back into a regular room by the 4th, and be able to see a few fireworks outside a window.
I took my kids to disneyland yesterday (we have annual passes) since I won't be going again anytime soon after the surgery and today a bit of camp clothes shopping for my daughter.
Tues is my last pre op with the ps and they will be giving me 'embrey' to take prior to surgery for nausea and I'll be asking for antivan and start taking it prolly soon if possible.
ssla01-healing thoughts and prayers for you girl, you've done it! Cuetang-so happy for you to be facing stage II
- sfin, dbarkow, and mammalou- calming, stress free thoughts for each of you this week as you get closer to your date! -
Damiana, hope you have better luck than me with the blister. Two months after I got it and still have it on the left side. What really as helped mine out is to put gauze with saline on it twice a day.
Take it easy and have a great Sunday! -
6/21/13 ssla01 (BMX with immediate Diep)
6/24/13 Cuetang (Diep, Stage 2)
6/24/13 sfin (bilat mx w/free flap TRAM reconstruction)
6/25/13 dbarkow (Stage 1, Diep) NOLA
6/26/13 mammalou (uniDiep, Stage 1)This weeks "class of future veterans".
Sending best wishes, calming thoughts to all of you. Succesful surgeries and gentle healing to you.
Still feeling pretty "out of it" around here. It just seems surreal. You think you've absorbed all the news....then you hear of the loss/destruction in another area.
Morwenna....EXCELLENT return to work suggestions! Therapist brain has clicked on for that one!!!!! Which pathway were you looking at??? The mozzies were getting pretty bad before all this...this is going to be just perfect breeding grounds for them now!!!! Enjoy the BBQ, nice to hav some good things going on.
damiani....for awhile, you can have more than one episode of 2 steps forward, 1 step sideways.....it's just your body's way of making you adjust to what it can handle, I think. Sounds like you're doing great!
Janet....I have been reading messages in a bit of a daze lately, but just want to say....you sound AWESOME! Loved the bassett hound walking faster than you story. You sound like a completely different person now that surgery is over. Happens to many of us. I think the Janet we "hear" now, is the real deal!!!!
Movie....careful on the timtams, girl
. Sadly, but obviously, no Waterton weekend. They are not as impacted, but have closed the 2 main access to trail roads, lost of washouts on the trails, had we gone, we wouldn't have been able to do much. I think the animals will be stressed enough, that humans slogging around on the trails would be a recipe for disaster, too. Was thinking of some hiking around here to "reset" myself, but lots of road/trail/bridge washouts in my mountains have likely stopped that too. Incredible, the power of water.
Have good days, ladies.
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I just walked down to the Bow River pathway below Silver Springs in Calgary. I was wearing shorts, but a rainjacket with long sleeves.
In about a 15 minute walk I have at least four bites on my legs, one on each hand, and one behind my right ear!
They always do go for me, but this year I am more anxious than usual because I got a couple of bites on my left wrist 3-4 weeks ago, and I still have some minor pitting on the back of my hand. I am petrified of lymphedema! but somehow never thought to spray yesterday when I just thought is stroll down to get a peep at the river! -
Liefie, that is awesome. I can picture your scar from all the pics I have seen in the Internet. In a year you shouldn't hardly see it at all, especially if you have nipples put on.
Good to hear some of you got feeling back in armpits. I can't really explain the feeling. It's not completely numb, kind of like novacaine that is wearing off...does that make sense?
Damaina. Glad you are home. You will rest so much better without somebody waking you up every 5 minutes. I wouldn't worry about your flap being cooler that the rest of you. I am sure they wouldn't have let you go home if it wasn't save. The blister I hear is normal. Talk to Kuka. She dealt with one, and I believe several other's have too. There are different ways to deal with them depending on your doc.
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Damiana - You're home! Yippee! Still have the visual of you grabbing the morphine with your toes - and it stll makes me laugh. I'm gald you're feeling better today.
Nahahi - Thanks for being such a great cheerleader for us all.
Here's my update - Surgery was June 13, and as of today, I am drain free! My nurse came over and pulled out the last two, and they slipped out like wet gummi worms. I feel like pinocchio, on the day he lost his strings.
After seeing the nurse to the door, the first thing I did was shuffle to my closet and try on some of my favorite summer tops that I've been too fat to wear. Boy - was that fun. Shirts that I was busting out of a few weeks ago, floated over my stomach. I felt like a super model until I looked in the mirror and saw that my hair is standing up on end, and when I turn to the side, I still look like the letter C, and not remotely like a supermodel. Heading out soon with Jim & Jed (man & dog) for a walk around the block, followed by a lazy afternoon on the deck.
Cuetang, sfin, dbarkow, mammalou - I wish you all the best. In my opnion, that waiting is the hardest part of the whole adventure. I found it a lonely mental minefield, but as soon as you are admitted to hospital, there are so many people to help, and the healing begins. Good luck.
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Thanks RobinY, Nihahi and JanetM for the well wishes. I'm nowhere as nervous as I was for Stage 1, but am a bit nervous about the lipo/fat grafting that will occur and the recovery time and pain involved with that. It's an outpatient surgery, and my PS has told me no drains, so we will see how it goes! My surgery is in the afternoon so the poor hubby will deal with one seriously cranky me tomorrow morning without the food and water bit (good luck to him!).
For all of you that have the absolutely normal jitters and doubts before the surgery, hang in there! The nerves before surgery are the worst. I'm over three months out and life is pretty much normal, only have dog ears the ab scar and patches of skin on the breasts (used for the Doppler readings) that remind me of what I've gone through (will be gone with Stage 2!). The new foobs/flaps are also much much softer than before.
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Thanks ladies for the well wishes. Janet.. The mental minefield is so true and it brings tears to my yes just having that acknowledged. In so many ways, this bc journey is lonely. I feel like I lead a double life sometimes. One in the real world and one in my mind on on bc.org. It is just so nice to hear from people that understand.
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Cuetang, what patches from doppler? I am curious because my surgery is about a month away. I didnt' know there was anything permanent the doppler left behind.
Good luck with stage 2. I know it will be awesome!!!!!!
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Morning ladies, glad to hear everyone is safe from the flooding. Sucks to have to deal with that on top of everything else. Keeping you all in my prayers especially the ladies who are recovering this week from surgery. Has anyone experienced fluid on their lungs post anesthesia? I've had a horrible cough this week I can't ditch after my port placement and its keeping me from sleeping and giving me a sore throat. More worried it will turn into pneumonia. Anyone else had to deal with this nice little SE?
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Goldie-- I had a nipple sparing and skin sparing bilateral with immediate DIEP reconstruction. My PS put two patches of skin (I'm guessing from my ab skin) in the area under the nipple (it's about the size of a quarter). The nurses did the Doppler readings in that patch of skin to check if the flaps were still alive in the hospital. I didn't get the feeling a whole lot of folks had this. For stage 2, he's going to fix that so the only scar I will have is a vertical line going from the nipple to the bottom of my breast.
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Cuetang, that makes sense. I am excited for you. Sounds like you are doing great. How are you doing with the Tamoxifen?
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It's good to read about pre-surgery nerves, friends' reactions and good results! My best friend who has a rare form of incurable lymphoma, looked at me like I was crazy when I told her what I was going to do, like why should you go through all that for breasts? Her perspective is different. Now I feel like I can't talk to her about it and don't have her full support. I am pretty nervous about the whole thing, but more about having pokes/bp in my lymphedema arms, barfing from meds, keeping the pain under control than the actual surgery. 25 more days!
Liefie, I, too, will have my TE's for fifteen months. They fit me really well but I am tired of "rocks on my chest," as you say. My PS says my skin looks really good from the rads which were last fall. I hope there are no surprises. I postponed my DIEP from the usual six months waiting period as I was recovering from pneumonia after chemo and wanted to get stronger. I had three months chemo, five weeks rads, then three more months chemo. My noob incisions will be circles where my nipples will eventually be. How they get the fat and vessels in there is a mystery to me and something I don't want to know!
God bless you who have surgery this week with fast healing and great outcomes! -
I have a funny story about pre surgery preoccupation 😀
A friend told me to download a farm game on my phone that I had to "feed my animals regularly" the pig one was called a "baconator" so after my surgery my dr came in and asked me "how my baconator was doing"
OMG I was sooooo embarrassed that I immediately deleted the farm game off my phone ☺
At my post op I explained to my dr how embarrassed i was that i must have talked up a storm on the operating table and that I needed to "not worry about what he was going to be doing"
He was sooooo sweet and said it must have been a coincidence that he asked that question because I never mentioned it on the table 😉
It really did help me to not obsess about the surgery because I was obsessing about some fake farm animals!!! Lolololol -
Goldie-- so far so good on the tamoxifen (another instance where the anticipation was worse than reality). Instructions from the PS and the MO say off of it for one week before surgery and for one week after surgery. Thanks for asking! Hang in there, you'll be a veteran shortly!
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So much for my awesome recovery. Has anybody had any post-surgery breast swelling. I am pretty modest size, but I have one breast that's swelling up like a melon, and the other that's kind of flat, and falling off to the side. It's day 10. Is this normal?
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Janet - the swelling can be indicitive of fluid building up. You may want to call your PS tomorrow. I believe you mentioned that you are drain free? Might have been too early. I had one that was falling off to the side. My PS did a lift and reposition on it at Stage 2a. We probably will have to do a bit more in August since it still doesn't match the other.
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MartyJ - Thanks. So happens that the affected breast was the first drain to go - on day 4. Please oh please tell me that they won't have to put another drain in!
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Janet - I don't think they put a drain back in, but they can aspirate. Don't overdo your activity as that contributes to extra juciness.
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