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  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    Damiana, I stuffed all of mine into a small fanny pack and wore it loose around my waist.  At night I hung the belt of the fanny pack around my neck.  Other surgeries, when I've had just the one drain, it was easier to manage pinned to my waistband.  I found four to be a lot of pinning.

    That being said, there is no such thing as a "great" solution.  We all just get along uneasily with them until they're out.  

    Welcome, Jenny!  Stick with us, we're a fun bunch!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Thanks Ruth, Aquaphore was my best friend during rads! Will hit the drug store tomorrow. SO sorry you are in pain but so glad you have an answer!



  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Hey ladies,



    How many weeks post diep were you able to walk normally? What about working out? thanks!

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    Hey ladies, thanks for the well wishes on the house! Found out it can't go through unless my soon to be ex signs off on it even though his name isn't on it! And if it does go through any monies get held in trust by the lawyer until our "issues" are finaled in court. Ughhhh! I'm so frustrated I had a cigarette. Now I'm mad at myself too!



    Welcome to our newest members, these ladies will be invaluable! This is the best thread I have ever been part of!



    Kuka, I'm glad bursitis was all it turned out to be. I'm guessing it was a shot of cortisone they gave you. I have bursitis in my hips and when I over do it I know it. Hurts like hell!



    I think I'm about to open a bottle of ice wine and see who wins the voice!

    Cheers,

    Sherry



    Good luck tomorrow kad and damianna. You will soon be on the other side!

  • ironmagnolia
    ironmagnolia Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2013

    lilyun--I too have a son who is gay. Something I read after he came out really helped me: the dreams I had for my son are not destroyed, only altered.

    I've realized that his sexuality does not define who he is as a person. He is a good person, an incredibly creative musician, a loyal friend, a reliable and hardworking employee, a very loving son, and the man lucky enough to fall in love with him will be the luckiest guy on earth. 

    Sounds like you have a lot on your plate right now. You'll get through this. You have great support here on this sight.

  • 2360lara
    2360lara Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2013

    I would love an answer to this as well! I just had my surgery last Tuesday and am trying to "stretch " a little every day. Looking forward to rejoining the land of the moving!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Lara- Looks like you are just a few days behind me! Are you scars itching yet? That hitme today after drains came out, stinks!

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited June 2013

    Damiana - 

    I'm thinking about you tonight, and I'll be thinking about you all day tomorrow. The best part is waking up after surgery and knowing that it's done, then a few small steps, then the triumphant walk through the revolving hospital doors into fresh air. You'll do great.

    It's so manageable, and there's so much pain management, and assistance. Time goes quickly.

    I just got home today, and had a light dinner on the back deck, then shimmied into bed with my wedge pillow, where I am quite comfortable. As far as drains, sbelizabeth has a good option with the fanny pack, and is pretty accurate in saying there's no great solution.

    I ordered a 'Jacki' which is a soft jacket with velcro bindings, and inside pockets for the drians. Liike almost everything else I bought, it is still in the bag with the tags on. In the hospital my drains were pinned to my gown and I was quite happy to let them dangle off me like sad old Christmas lights on Charlie Brown's Christmas tree.

    At home I'm wearing a cammi, and with three drains left, I've pinned them all to that. My pajamas bottoms keep the tubes covered, my robe keeps the balls covered, and going to the washroom doesn't require any adjusting. If I leave the house I'll put on a loose shirt and yoga pants, and keep the cammi so I can use it to pin the drains.

    So I'm left with the Jacki, unused, and I'd like to pass it along to anyone who might enjoy using it. I live in Canada, so it wouldn't arrive in the US for a few weeks. If anyone has an upcoming surgery after July, please pm me and I'll happily send it along.

    http://www.alittleeasierrecovery.org/

    dyvgirl - My blood is boiling with empathy. I get SO frustrated at the lack of communication within the medical system. Meanwhile we put our lives on hold and do everything we can to stay on top of things. So frustrating.

    Good night everybody, sleep well.  

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    Kuka, that is the best possible scenario for your knee.  I have had bursitis.  It is very curable, and you will be all better soon.  Rest it, and I always felt heat felt good on my bursitis.  Don't know what your doc said.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    Janet, thanks for the shoulder, I just needed to get that stress and monkey off my back before walking into a meeting with my whole management team. Ugh!!

    One note to remember regarding drains. I had mine pinned to the waistband of my sweats, and of course forgot, racing to the bathroom from the gallons of water I was drinking, I yanked my pants down firmly and immediately screamed and hit the ground. I'm telling you, those stitches don't give!! I started leaking from the insertion site afterwards. Ugh! Remember that if you ever attach them to your pants!!!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    I had the same thing after my BMX, wth the immediate expander's.  It freaked me out, but it went away. I used a little aquaphor every night, and that seemed to help. 

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited June 2013

    Dyvgirl - I find the lack of communication to be a huge issue. It's good to lose the monkey.

    Meanwhile - I've already shared my lack of management story on this thread a few days ago, but it bears repeating.

    My BS didn't show up for my surgery! And nobody figured it out till I was already under a general. Two surgeons had to drop what they were doing and race over. I've yet to find out what kind of scheduling f*ck-up occurred with my 'team', so I'm just trying to concentrate on the excellent results. But, really? How do you miss a surgery? I'm trying to reserve judgement till I learn the details, but it better be a damn good excuse. If he was lying on a beach drinking a Mai-Tai, or anywhere within fifty feet of a golf club, I will lose my mind.

    Goodnight, again.

  • Typewriterjenny
    Typewriterjenny Member Posts: 52
    edited June 2013

    Tammy- thanks for offering, but I think I'm alright. :) just reading a lottttt of posts!

    Catie- thought about those too, but seemed more complicated?

    Kuka- hi! That's ok! What a day you've had!

    Sweet pickle- thanks for the welcome. That's great news! Enjoy the rest!



    For you ladies who have had a single mastectomy with diep- how long was your surgery and when could you walk upright?



    How bad is the belly pain? I get severe menstrual cramps every month for 2-3 days where nothing would help until my obgyn gave me vicoprofin. That makes it tolerable. I still know its there but i can function. To date that is some of the worst pain I've experienced except for my reduction. I've had pins in my ankle due to breaking it while hiking when I was 16, had my gallbladder removed in 2010, and wisdom teeth removed. To give an idea of what I've been through pain wise.



    So I will be armed with dry shampoo, face cleansing wipes, women's hygiene wipes, a chillow, and aromatherapy hot/cold booties. Am I missing anything?



    Jenny

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    Dyvgrl...lol.  I have a perfect mental picture.  Owwwwwieeee.

    About the drains.  When the hedonistic experience of the first post-op shower occurred for me, I hung all four of the grenades from a ribbon tied around my neck, pendant-style.  This worked pretty well.  Just be sure the knot in the ribbon is tight.  A Dyvfrl-drain-yank experience in the shower would wreck your day.

    Janet, I had a Jacki, too, and I wore it exactly once.  On the way home from the hospital.  But it was almost summer in California, so the Jacki was too warm.  I gave it to my sister, who'll have her DIEP in January, and she lives in Colorado, so I think it'll get used.  

    Sweetpickle, my knuckle-dragging days began to wane around three weeks post-op.  I think this is a pretty common time for all of us.  I started riding my bike on day 11, but I'm very used to riding, and for me, it was easier than walking, with the bent-over posture and all.  

    Bailey, I had the same skin peeling stuff going on.  I even used my Clarisonic in the shower on it a little.  With some moisturizer, it cleared right up.

    For you sisters who are waiting for you DIEP surgery, let me just say...this surgery was a huge, wonderful, positive, giant step forward for me.  After all the biopsies, surgeries, pathology reports, slashed chest, burning radiation and bags of chemo, DIEP gave me back a sense of being whole and beautiful.  That, and a flat tummy, is worth a lot!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    Janet, I still can't believe your surgeon didn't show.  When you first wrote about it, I wondered what would happen here in the US under the same circumstances.  I'm wondering if they would have let you wake up and postponed the surgery.  Anyone with recent O.R. experience here?  Do they give anesthesia without the surgeon's confirmed presence?  

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    I know my surgeon had to initial my breast on the side I was having surgery on before anyone on the floor would touch me. I saw both my BS, PS, anesthesiologist and recovery nurse before anything happened. So, can't imagine they'd continue. Who knows? I would flip my lid for sure!!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    I saw both general surgeon and PS pior to going under.

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2013

    Thanks, sbelizabeth! I needed that! I do have a question. Since my current Buddha belly which I abhor extends above my belly button, am I going to have a muffin top with a tummy tuck??? I've been walking, ellipticaling, and crunching but nothing changes. I suppose I am getting stronger, though, there is that!

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited June 2013

    Kuka- I am going to Medical City in Dallas. when I was trying to find DIEP doctors, nobody in Fort Worth did them (at least as far as any of my people knew)

    Thanks for the tips on the drains.

    I'll see ya'll in a few days :)

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    jeannie- I had the same thing and mine was gone and perfectly flat when I woe up. They also relocated my belly button after the tuck. Looks awesome even though Im still about 40lbs overweight. I plan to drop those pounds in the next few months.

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2013

    Thanks, sweetpickle! Good news! I love your name, by the way. I love, love, love pickles!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Thanks, its what Ive called my daughter since she was born however now w just call her pickle. Her given name is Sara but she will always be my sweet pickle!

  • ironmagnolia
    ironmagnolia Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2013

    I was surprised to hear that they went ahead with the surgery after she was asleep and they discovered the mistake that the BS was not there. The new BS apparently operated without the patient's consent. I had to sign a consent for each surgeon. And of course all of them, BS, PS, and anesthesiologist all talked to me in pre-op before I was sedated.

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Damiani: I had the OncQ pain strip/pum post op, which comes in a little fanny pack.  I used that fanny pack for my drain bulbs.  If I had not had the OncQ, I would have just used regular fanny pack.

    I used the walker for a couple of weeks.  I am now 3 +  weeks and walking fully upright, without the walker. I'm planning to return to work next monday, 4 wks 3 days post op.

    I appreciate everyone's positive "it was worth it" "no regrets" attitudes.  I'm just not there yet.  I want to put out a hand to those who might not be 100% on board with those statements, that you are not alone.  I have my moments when I think this may not have been worth it.  I have to put it in perspective and know that I need more time.  I am 3+ wks post op and doing better every day.  But, I have had a rough road from the beginning. I am generally a positiv eperson, and I plan to be 100% positive when all this is done.  But, sometimes I sit back and wonder why all these ladies are doing so well, and so positive, and I'm just not there.  So, I just want to say that it is OK to NOT be 100% sure. There are doubts, Some days more than others.   Don't want to be "Debby downer", just being real.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited June 2013

    6/19/13            kad22  (Diep)
    6/19/13            damiana9 (Uni Diep, Stage 1) Dallas, TX

    Thinking of you both....see you on the "other side". kad22....you're a really last minute addition to our list, but you have all of us routing for you too.

    re: drain control, I bought some large, plain, cheap tank tops and pinned the drains to that. I wasn't supposed to wear any kind of bra, post op, and I wanted something between my steristrip covered incisions and my shirt/top. The tank tops worked great. I could just step into them and pull them up.

    Jeannie, all the fitness stuff you've been doing will totally work for you after surgery, in how your body handles the recovery...good for you! I bet you love your new "tummy"! I am absolutely overthe moon thrilled with mine, and it wasn't THAT "buddha-ish" to begin with. 

    sweetpickle.....you just sound better and better and better!!!! I looked like I was upright at around 2 weeks, but didn't "feel" like I was upright until maybe 3 weeks out. I could lay in bed without extra pillows at 2 weeks post surgery. I'm starting to "guess" at those timeframes, it all seems so long ago in the past for me now! I still am aware of a tight skin feeling, after sitting for any stretch of time, but it quickly disappears. At your stage, I think walk, walk and more walking is your target. Stay conscious of your posture, slowly increase speed, distance and maybe up and down inclines if possible. Your PS should tell you when you have the OK to start doing more. I was ok'd to start doing trunk rotation and core stuff at the 6 week mark. I started doing gentle and limited backbend type poses without any extra "tension" in yoga about a week ago..BUT...I have a fragile low back, and have never really pushed that position.

    dvygrl....omg...just OMG re: pulling on those drains....oooohhhhheeee.

    Janet...home and happy it sounds like. Good for you! I too, just cannot imagine a no-show for surgery.....the "reason" if you ever find it out, will be quite the story!

    Great to hear from everybody today.....now.....remember....pillows are the NON-COMBAT ZONE, (thanks for that sbelizabeth) and restful sleeps for all.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited June 2013

    shechirple, thanks for your last post....you're not an anomaly.....and you certainly are not a "downer"! We all heal differently, start at different levels of stress, health and fitness. and all have different life issues of work, home, kids, etc. Everyone's "timeframe" to reach the various "targets" are unique to us, and it is important to hear from all. I hope you don't feel your experiences are any less valid than other flappers! I cannot imagine having to go through this with small children, pressures of work, travelling away from home to get to the surgery location....yadayadayada. I think I have had it easy, the rest of you are the heroes in my mind!

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited June 2013

    Wow! You ladies have been busy! I'll try to remember all the questions I've read as I'm typing answers.

    First I want to thank you all for worrying about my knee. I'm happy too that this is all it is. I know it hurts right now since I just got a shot on it. It was steroids. I guess I was trying to be tough, the doc asked me if I wanted him to put pain meds on the shot too and I told him no need for that, I can take it. It will not happen again! Pain meds all the way!!!!

    Drains. My hospital gave me two neck bands with a clip that will hold 4 drains. I used it for taking showers. They also gave me a belt with Velcro where I could hook the drains too. I had no problems carrying the drains at all!

    Tummy pain. What pain? I really didn't have pain. My back did hurt from walking hunched over for a couples weeks, but other than that I had no trouble. They cut through your nerves, so the first few weeks your tummy are is numb and there's no much feeling. It eventually comes back, unlike the feeling on your boobs. But really, this surgery y pretty painless.

    My BS and ps both had to sign the forms at the end of my bed before they would roll me into the OR. They both came to see me and explained everything to me one more time. I guess if the BS that did your surgery did a good job then stuck with him. Who cares about the other one. I want a BS I can count on when I need to!

    My MIL is gay. I love her as much as I would if she was straight. I don't agree with the life style but I don't judge it either. And if one of my kids were to be gay I would be right there with them 100%. We always have expectations for our kids, but we need to remember that it's their life! We can only help them and they have to live it!

    I hope I answered everything! I wish everyone of you sweet dreams tonight! There's the hope, right?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Shechirple - yeah....what Nihahi said! You have every right to where you are...physically and mentally and emotionally. For crying out loud, you got your period in the hospital after surgery. That would have just about done me in! We should all go at our own pace. There are no prizes for meeting some milestone before somebody else and no demerits for not. Everybody has their own story.

  • jakig
    jakig Member Posts: 55
    edited June 2013

    A couple of questions for those post- DIEP:  Did you wake up without your original belly button?  I looked down, and said, "My belly button is in the wrong place." The nurse said, "That's your new one; they had to take the old one, as is was in the incision from the belly donor site."  I was very surprised; I thought I had covered all the bases.  Not unpleasant; looks like a nice innie new one now; was a bit difficult explaining it to 91-year old mom.

    Also, my affected side (Left) has the new flap. The incision I had expected was from the underarm forward; instead; there's a larger than nipple area CENTER incision that is kind of like the shape of an eye. This was really surprising to me.

    I see the PS in the a.m. so hoping the 3 drains can come out. Will follow his decision. Down to 40cc on all 3 for the day, so I  think they will come out. Will ask about the other; just wondering if everyone loses their belly button and I just missed it, and what kind of incision line do you have on your affected side(s).?

    Pain is minimal; I find if I do less, there's less pain, so I've been a turtle this week, and it's paid off. I'm fairly comfy and want to reassure those who are yet to have the DIEP - you can do it! Hang in there!!

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited June 2013

    jakig....I was NOT impressed the first time I looked at my belly button post surgery. It was over an inch off centre!!!! I thought....what the h**l was he thinking!!! Barfing then occupied my attention for a few days, and the next time I took time to ponder it, it had moved more midline!!!! Then I realized, that the tummy swelling and boob swelling were distorting things. (I am a uni flap, with a lift on the other side). Now, everything is lined up just where it belongs. I bet you find yours migrates too! Probably different techniques out there, for mine, it is my "original" button.  PS cut around it when doing the flap, then poked it through the tummy skin after it was stretched together, and restitched it to the new tummy. Looked oddly misplaced at first, but now, either I'm getting used to it, or tummy is relaxing and contours around it make it look normal. My flap incision lines, sound similar to yours...I had some stretched skin from the alien implant, that was incorporated into the new boob.

    40cc for the day, still sounds a bit on the juicy side for the drains. Most protocols are for under 30.

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