Chemo May 2013
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Reddheddmom,
I don't normally fall asleep but had an awful nights sleep and it caught up to me.
Oh well, next one is last, I will be sure to remind them and hubby that I ICE.
Regarding your mom. Can you beat her to the ounch and send her emails when it's good for you! If not, in your next email tell her you are too tired to answer her 6 emails/texts and you will send 1 in the am and one in the pm. Sounds like she needs to have something to do and is "enjoying" the victim role (not that she is the "victim")
Personally, I set up a caringsbridge website at http://www.caringbridge.org/ and told the people I wanted to know about it. I don't even update on a regular basis. And I don't go into detail,who wants to hear about bowel movements?
Lorrie, good luck with the picc insertion. A name sounds good...anti-Dracula?
Pat -
ReddHedd... I'm with pat!
Send her an email every morning... "doing good. I'll let u know if anything comes up or if I need anything. Thanks for your support!"
Not that your mom is like this but I personally have found a few friends that are living vicariously through my drama... It's frustrating to watch.... Like they have any idea the fears and emotions that go wit the minimal info I do tell them.
Soooooooooo after all of my fretting, the picc is in.... Not pleasant, but not nearly as bad as I thought... I'd describe it as a tough IV day, all done! No more pokes for meeee! no more pokes for meeee! It's a bit sore, but that too will pass...
Gonna be a pain in the ass to keep dry and get dressed, but I will say it was worth doing!
Thanks to everyone for the encouraging talks! Now I feel like a 4 year old who didn't wand to get a shot! Haha
Anti Dracula ... I like it! Or.... Fred lol... Give me ideas, guys! -
4th AC done - on to Taxol every 2 weeks.
Today I was told to take 5 steroid pills each 12h and 6 h before chemo (20mg in total) and some anti-allergy medication too to prevent reactions to the Taxol. I am not sure if I want to take such a big amount of steroids. They plan on giving me even more just before chemo. Did anybody with Taxol not take steroids at all or a lower dose before chemo? For the AC I only took one pill just before chemo and was fine. In the beginning they wanted to give me a three times bigger dose but I refused.
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lorrie - I'm so sorry that you havt to deal with all the bills too. that"s as bad as having a treatment. I'vebeen blessed with an insurance that is taking care of the bills for this. but my husband is duefor some procuders for his medical condition and there is no way we could ever pay it. not sure what we are going to do about that. but it does make me understand the stress of medical bills.
Gully-Glad you had anice time at the abll games. soak all the good times in. it is tough hearing people's comments sometimes. i just don't think they understand. especially when they are feeling just fine.
Lorrie, Pat, others - Love your sense of humor.
Teresa- Nice to have an understanding boss who is willing to be flexible. How did the clipping go?
Lorrie-So sorry you ar getting the itchy/numbing/tingling feelings. When do these s.e."s end?
Gully-Diddo to you. And yes I am still in the hospital.Ends up that I will have surgery on my hand and will probably get a vein removed.
argyunis- Congrats to you. Making real progress.
Lisa-Hoping you feel rested up by tomorrow.
RedHeddMomma- I understand re your mom. It's like it's about her somehow. it isn't. it's about you. people handle it the only way they know how. And sometimes that way is a very selfish way. but even though she does all those thoughtless/somewhat selfish things. it"s not personal to you. it feels personal. But, really, it"s all about her and her needs. i know it"s hard, I am just barely learning how, but stay strong in your needs and let her needs fall by the wayside. We need to stay as stress free as possible even if it means we don't accomodate someone elses needs.
todaymy hubby comes to visit me at the hospital. He's worried about me getting a secondary staff infection in the hospital. He's worried about me going under. for the hand surgery. Yesterday he said to our girls "She could lose her arm. Good grief!! he was here for 5 minutes today and i told him that our heads are in two different places. Yes I could get a secondary infection, yes going under is always a concern but I cann't let my head go there. After a few more minutes I said you don't look happy being here. You look miserable. Go home. He said he doesnt like it in these places (having to be in hospitals several times himself). I said go home. He said o.k.and he said I love you. I said I love you too. ... i fullfilled my desire of peace.
Having minor surgery around 6 p.m.California time.
We will not only get through this, we will get through this triumphantly. - Carla
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Patty-So sorry about your session today. It"s the pits when the little control we feel we have is taken away. And not knowing the consequences for it. How very cool that your last treatment is in sight.
Carla
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Good luck Carla! Thinking of you!
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Hi Annie:
I only take one steroid pill the day prior and the day after treatment. I started with 2 and was cut back to one. I believe they are 4 mg but not sure. It works fine for me and I am able to sleep. -
Annie,
I only take one steroid pill in the morning and one around dinner. I am on Cytoxan/Taxotere not Carboplatin not sure if that makes a difference or not.
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Thanks everyone for the supportive advice. I have tried the daily e-mail, and it just gets me showered with a bazillion more e-mails throughout the day. I am just going to have to get better about doing what I can and not worry about the rest, but the people pleaser in me has difficulty with this. Maybe this is one of the lessons I am supposed to learn from all of this mess - how to take care of me a little better, and let the rest go.
Carla is absolutely right that it is about her, and not me. And the only thing in all of this that I can control is my reaction. I need to make a sign and stick it up in my computer to remind me of that.
Carla, will be sending lots of good thoughts your way for the surgery. Hugs, hon, you have been through way too much this week with that hand!
Itiswhatitis - so glad the pic line was less traumatic than you had feared. I hope it works well for you and makes all of this easier on your poor veins. It is amazing what we all have adjusted to the last few weeks, isn't it? At this point, belly issues, throat sores and exhaustion are old hat! Let alone needle pokes...really shows you what's an adjust to if you need to do so, I suppose. But it will get better. (Won't it?) -
Carla,
Hugs to you! Hang in there! I am so sorry you have had to deal with this "extra bonus" to treatment. You are right, doom and gloom does not help anything. You are right to keep positive thoughts. I will be thinking of you and sending some very positive vibes!
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Ugh! Itchy rash now on feet and hands.... Cant wait till my apt tomorrow with the Onc.... He'll probably just say "continue the benodryl and cream.... I've never in my life taken so many pills! Maybe I should ask the nurse instead. They seem to have a better handle on everyone's SEs.... They should be paid more!
Never had heartburn or indigestion and last night after the fathers day thing, we were on our way home and it felt like there was a golf ball stuck in my throat/chest.... Is that heartburn? I took pepcid and today it's better, but I can't imagine people who suffer with that all the time....
Sorry for the multiple posts.... I just keep thinking of more stuff! Haha -
Carla, wishing you the best for a successful operation.
Lorrie, yeah! Picc line is in....Peter picc? Penelope picc? Ice picc? Picc-nic? (As in it will now be easier to get that chemo and bloods!)'
Steroid pills...I take 4 mg dose. one in am , one in pm, day before, day of, and day after chemo....works for me, and I can usually sleep. Last night was the exception but I was thinking how I will be staring tamoxifen and then my surgery in the fall and how the heck that will work with the kids in school, and what if the doctor doesn't want to wait til fall, then I will miss out on the vacation I booked for end of .august...blah blah blah! Lol.
Reddhottmomma, sounds like you are in a losing situation. My husband wants all the gritty details and I refuse to share them. I'm not discussing bowel movements so he can share it with the world! I grew up as a people pleaser, I must be getting old because I've slowly started to not care what others think. Life is too short to try and please everyone. And aren't we supposed to be reducing our stress! Remember your friends here next time you go to reply to mom. Then come back and tell us the good news of how you kept it short and sweet so we can cheer you on!
Argynis,
You might want to Double check with your doctor about the amount? I don't take taxol so can't offer insight. Hopefully someone here does and can help you out.
Pat -
Today I asked for a copy of all 3 lab reports done for chemo.
There was one before first treatment, glucose was high, but it wasn't a fasting test, so I am not concerned.
2nd showed low vitamin D. When I had seen the doctor during chemo she had said all labs look good. Then the next day I got a call from the doctors office to say my vitamin D was low. (Hmmm, from everything is ok, to vitamin D is low?...me thinks the good doctor didn't review the labs when she first spoke to me!)
3rd lab was a few days ago.
I specifically asked the .doctor if the vitamin D looked better and she replied that they only will test it in 3 months. Lo and behold, the vitamin D is ON THIS LAB and it is increased slightly but not in the normal range! She had also said the labs look good, yet I am LOW in three red blood cell areas....which according to Dr. google could mean anemia. Big sigh!
So do I call the oncologist back and confront her or should I make an appointment with my general doctor?
Thanks for listening...
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Jeesh pat.... I'd be concerned about the lack of concentration on your labs on their part.... Especially when you are asking specific questions...
I'm not sure now that I've paid enough attention... Just going with whatever they say.
I think you need to do what makes you more comfortable with the information you have. That's why they get paid the big bucks! To be educated enough to give you information about your concerns... I wouldn't "confront". ... But ask nicely for the information you're looking for and don't walk away thinking "but, they never answered my question"
I do that too often!
Sorry! The problem is...I think... They deal with so many patients, they forget that this is our first time with breast cancer treatment, chemo, side effects, learning what our blood counts mean... And they generalize everything... But none of us are exactly the same!
We already have sooooo much to deal with physically, mentally & emotionally.... Give us real answers to our questions! It's not like we are 5 years old and shouldn't be burdened with the answers.... Okay, so I acted 5 years old last week, but still! -
I think I'll name it shot glass.... Where I get my cocktails.....
Thanks everyone for all of the encouragement & support over the past several weeks! I sincerely don't know what kind of shape I'd be in without this group of lovely ladies!
Hugs & happy thoughts!
Lorrie -
Here comes Lorrie with her shot glass. She is always ready for a cocktail! Lol
Thanks for our advice with the .dr. I didn't mean confront in a bad way....I will have to think this through. I wonder about changing oncologists after my final treatment. May have to see. I'm not overly thrilled with her personality. I feel a lot of info is lacking. But who really has the time to shop doctors! Surely something to think about!
Pat -
itiswhatitis, and I acted like I was 5 years old today.
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Pat... The one thing that is important to me is being confident with my care provider, because I'm no a cancer specialist, I need someone who is.... I'm not so sure about my Onc, but my nurses have been the bomb!
With that said.... You..... Me.... We .... Are in charge here and I think we forget it sometimes cuz, well shit, we're too exhausted to persue otherwise! And just do what we're told.... I know what you meant by confront.... But take control of your care and your concerns... (hahaha...says the baby who's scared of everything. I give advise.... I don't follow it)
GWTF... What happened?
Yup.... My shot glass is a little tender tonight... But will be ready for the rest of my cocktails this summer! I wonder....... Can I shoot tequila into it? Hahahahahahaha I'm totally kidding!!! -
Anyone else with a picc.... It's more tender now that the ladocane has worn off.... Shocker the lady said I'd be fine.....the anti anxiety has worn off as well... DAMN! Lol
Back to being a 5 year old....
I'm just wondering if cool or warm would be better..... It's not horrible, just uncomfortable. -
Gosh... I'm beginning to feel like this is my cancer FB page.......how PATHETIC am I?
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Lorrie, do you have any pain meds? I would try a little heat, but not a heating pad. Hopefully you can get some rest tonight.
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Thanks Michelle..... I think I will take a pain med ad (I konow this sounds funny but wrap It up comfy for the first night)
Michelle... Did u go to the look good, feel good class you asked me about? I'm curious cuz I don't like group stuff, but wonder if I should go to the next one...
My stubble is almost gone.... Just some on the top of my head I wish would just go already!
At home I'm bare headed, but when I go to to store, or work I wear a hat & soon as I get home, I whip it off! -
Lorrie,
Go to the look good fell better class.
The two different ones I went to were very small, only 1 person at the one I was late to, and the other had 2 people. Everyone was very nice. I'm not a group type person either, but honestly there was really no cancer discussion it was all about the makeup and wigs (in my case), I heard some do scarf wrapping instead of wigs if they are sending you to a wig bank. I connected with a woman in my area, via email only. It was nice to be able to chat with her after the meeting was done. Similar to a chat here, but face to face.
Sorry the pic line is now an "Owie", when my last IV hurt they had recommended heat. If you are wrapping dont go to tight. . Maybe consider calling that nice 24 hour onc line! The ones who get the big bucks!
And what do you mean FB page, it isn't! lol. This is the place to air the things that are bothering you so you can get help!
Feel better, hope You have a good nights sleep.
Pat -
itis, I sobbed to my MO about how horrible it was on the table on Friday. I sobbed because I felt like I was lied to about why they wanted me in there. I told them I hadn't quite built up my trust in them, then they put me through that without a warning.
Then I went to radiation proudly wearing my buttons (one that said chemo's chairs are more comfortable, the other with a picture of the rad machine that flashed red and said torture device).
Plus, I was so anxiety ridden when I left for my apt. I forgot the bag full of buttons I made for Rads and the container of cookies I had ordered for them. Going to make a clean start today with cookies and buttons and a smile on my face.
THEN, I'm going to get my stubbles colored.
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Thanks for the advice and info on the steroids - I now feel much better about reducing the amount. Who wants to take 16 mg of Dex if you can get by with 8! In a way it makes me feel like I'm over the hump and on the downhill slide to the end of chemo...even though I have 4 treatments left. Sigh!
Annie
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GWTF...
Have fun getting the stubbles colored! Are you goin with a funky color? I think it'd be fun to watch it grow out then....
I'm sorry about rads...is it painful or scary... And did they have you do a session when you weren't expecting it? That's what I hate about some of my apts... I go in expecting one thing and they "need" to do other things as well... I'm the type that needs to wrap my head around something before doing it,,,,
I'd say it's nice that you're bringing them cookies anyway! -
Pat,
According to my MO, the CBC results, that we get so often are a snapshot look at where were are within normal ranges only. I am a Medical Technologist myself (the people who run the tests...haha) so I know this is true. Remember that our chemo kills off quickly dividing cells, aka blood cells. So its really hard to keep everything in the "normal range" chemo kills them off then nueulasta tries to build them back, one day apart from eachother. BTW He wont show me mine in detail because I am a worrywort by nature even though I know that the normal ranges for each level are "normal population" ranges LOL..... so I know where you are coming from!. Your normal may be near the low, middle, or high end of those ranges. They are looking only for really off results, something that would barr you from another round or indicate that you need a transfusion etc..
On the chemistry panel, I asked mine for my liver panel results (AST,ALT) which indicate how the liver is reacting to the damage of the poisions we are getting...which of course are prob. elevated because its doing its job....and my MO, who I trust and who is starting to know my personalitly,, said with a smile, it will make it though your last round in July. First reaction.....WTF....but in his defense sometimes too much detail is not good for me...He said I was ok and am doing well, so I am trying to turn over a new leaf and trust him to do his job well and take care of me! BUT....I still watch like a hawk...but trying not to obcess and to decrease my anxiety levels.
IF you are not a good fit personality wise, I would definitily shop around, this person is going to run your medical life for a long time, and we have to think they have our best interest at heart. Physical, Mental, and quality of life!
We have to live with all these unknowns for the rest of our lives....I am trying to not worry and be happy with now...which is really hard sometimes!!!!! and a huge leap for my worrywort personality......but I dont want to spend the rest of my life in my shrink's office dealing with my anxiety levels....sooooooo, my new motto..
"Perhaps destiny is not as mighty as those who are defy it!"
Have a good day ladies!
Carla: Are you out of surgery? Everything ok? been thinking about you!
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itis, I had my mapping/planning last monday. On Thursday they called me to come in on friday for xrays. Xrays turned out to be fine-tuning my planning for 2 hours with my arm over my head. Now had they TOLD me that was what was going to happen, I would have been prepared.
And it's not painful and not really scary unless I look at the pictures of myself on the tv monitor.
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Hello All,
Back posting after my "bad weekend" after chemo Wednesday.
Lorrie - I am glad you made it through the PICC insertion. Shot glass - awesome name. I love it.
Annie - glad to hear you are reducing your steriods. They give some to me before A/C dose dense infusion, and then I take 1 pill days 2 and 3. Originally it was 2 pills, but I asked to reduce it due to SEs, and MO agreed.
Argynnis - you mention a VERY high steroid usage on Taxol - ouch! Do you think they'll make you continue that throughout the whole treatment? Taxol's coming up for me after A/C #4 next Wednesday. I am hoping to avoid too many more steroids
...and definitely hoping to avoid using the Neulasta much longer. I know it's keeping me healthy, but the bone pain this time around lasted almost 3 days. Ouch.
RedHeddMomma - sorry about having to cater to your mom. My mother also contacts me a million times, but seems to understand when I don't get back to her (though she will call my husband..or keep calling me anyway). Good luck with whatever approach you take. It's tough having to deal with everyone else's needs during this time, and I hope that your mom can understand you can't be on call to her needing reassurance 24/7.
Carla - SO sorry to hear all the crap you've been dealing with recently. I hope that despite it all, you've had a chance to enjoy some time alone and having people wait on you hand and foot. Sounds like you are beaming despite it all. Kudos to you. I don't think I could do it.
My adventure of the weekend was having a lovely trip to the hospital for basically nothing. My oncologists' office rule is to call the hotline if a fever goes about 100.5. Well, mine was at 100.6 Sunday late night, and the on-call doc said she wanted me to go to the hospital to get my counts checked, just in case (despite all the bone pain from neulasta, which I figured meant it must be working). Well, I was at the hospital from midnight until 3p...and they gave me a barrage of tests...I think because they didn't know what they were doing and they were being overly cautious. My WBC count was 23k (they were worried it was too high), which happens on neulasta. But it wasn't until my MO stopped by the hospital (she's located just next door) that I got to leave..she asked "why are you here?" and I told her "I don't know!". Ha. They found a minor UTI (tmi, I know) and I got a Cipro Rx and had some antibiotics in the hospital. Gotta love that we know more about our bodies and our cancer than the doctors and nurses working in the majority of hospitals. Sigh.
Ok, just had to get that out of my system. So frustrating.
Cheers to a better few days for us all!
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Carla, how are you doing? So sorry you are having these major issues.
How is shot glass doing today? I hope you got some relief so you could get some rest during the night.
Pat, here is hoping you are having a good day so you know you will make it to the graduation tomorrow.
Reddhedd, tell her that you will give her as much information as you can when you are feeling up to it. It is enough to try deal with all of what you are going through.without have to worry about helping others through it with you. It is too bad if others can't understand that.
When I got the good news on Friday that my white blood cells had rebounded enough to skip the neulasta shot I asked about help with the joint and muscle aches and pains. I normally take a steriod am & pm on the day before and after chemo and one the morning of chemo. He told me to help with those other aches I could take one steroid each day for the next two days after as well. He also said to try Advil instead of Tylenon and if that didn't work to let them know and I could possibly get something stronger.
The clipping of the hair went well. We went to 1/4". I keep it naked at home and throw something on to go out....however I seem to be throwing it off in the car as well. I don't freak out when I look in the mirror like I thought I would. My family is still getting used to seeing me here at home with basically no hair.....but they will just have to deal with it.
Today my cleaners are here. I checked out Cleaning for a Reason but then also checked out my local cancer.org. I got approved for 10 2 hour cleanings. Today is the first. I was surprised they approved me for so many but I will take it. I am having them come every other week. So this will get me through my last two chemo treatments, who knows what I will be looking at for Radiation then I haven't even started anything on reconstruction. I'm a little nervous about it all. No idea on what to expect with radiation. My Onc said I would most likely have to have it, but isn't sending me to a radiologist until I am done with chemo. Then there wil be the tissue expanders.....more surgery, making the two breasts look like each other. Ugh! A lot to think about. Plus I NEED to get it all done by the end of the year so I don't have to start all over with my insurance co pays and max out of pocket expenses.
Hope you all have a good day.
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