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  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited May 2013

    Chelev, so sorry that you are still having to deal with all these issues - I hope that you can get it sorted out, please keep us posted. Sending hugs.

    Florbo, so happy to hear that you are safe, these storms are very scary! So out of our control...And what a nice story from the gas station, it is nice to hear things like that, we don't hear them often enough Smile. I hope that your discomfort eases up soon.

    Titan, so happy that your appt went well..one more to go...keep us posted.

    All is ok with me, looking forward to the weekend, I need a rest.

    Hope you are all feeling well and doing ok, sending you all hugs, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2013

    I am happy to learn that everyone's appointments are showing that everything is good. But certainly we all still carry the emotional side effects of our cancer dx. I wonder if it ever goes away. I agree it would be great if we lived close to each other and could help by going to appointments together. But this is the next best thing.



    Florbo, do whatever you must to stay comfortable. It will be over soon.



    Chelev, I had no idea that tamoxifen could cause vision problems. We are almost in a situation that we could call pick your poison.



    Terrible about tornadoes. There was one here a couple of days ago but they occur very seldom so we really have no emergency procedures in place. Right now our city is dealing with an alleged crack smoking mayor and City Hall is in a mess. And of course we have a scandal in Ottawa with the federal government too. If it wasn't so sad it would be entertaining.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2013

    Back in 09, i was in a couples' support group during treatment. it met for 8 weeks and was part of a clinical trial, and we actually got paid to go! It was very helpful, and the 4 couples stayed close and had dinner a few times afterwards.  But by a year or so later, i was ready to be done with it. We really didn't have anything in common with them, and it all felt like a bad reminder of the whole cancer experience and i was ready to put it in the past. And it's been a long time with no word and I thought it was over.....

    So...NOW after all this time, they are having a dinner this weekend. The one couple called to invite us and I said yes, even though i didn't want to go.  If I had said we were busy (made an excuse), they would have changed the date so we could all be there.  So the only way to get out of it (that I can think of) is to honestly say that it is a painful reminder and not something I want to do in the future.

    This weekend is set - we are going. But for the future....any feedback about this? The easiest thing is just to go. I hate to hurt anyone's feelings. But.........

    I never find myself in this position. Any advice would be helpful.

    I KNOW you understand.

    Thanks

    Love, Amy

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited May 2013

    Hi Amy,

    I can understand your discomfort in attending the dinner. I think the only way to handle it is to be truthful...you're glad everyone seems to be doing well, but that time in your life carries some difficult memories and you have found, for your personal mental health, that it is best not to revisit that time. Wish them all well. You're right that the thread that connects you is the diagnosis, not friendship over time and shared experience, so you can hope they understand, but if they don't it is not a reflection on you. You are jut being honest about your feelings. Perhaps at the end of your dinner this weekend, when people start saying "we have to do this again, soon" you could express how you feel. You have always been very articulate here, so I'm sure you will find a kind way to say it.

    Helen I join everyone else in being so happy that your son's wedding turned out so well, and you were able to dance with him. It wasn't so long ago that you were sure that was not a possibility.

    Florbo - you are almost done! You have been so positive throughout your surgery and treatment, you deserve a restful break after your rads are done. Can you plan a little get away?

    Judy, also glad to hear your husband is making progress - slow going, but moving in the right direction.

    Chelev, I remember all the awful side effects you had while we were all going through treatment. Sounds like staying on the Tamoxifen would sacrifice your vision, and that's not a trade off any of us would choose.

    Titan, glad your appointments have been I eventful so far - let's all keep them that way - nice and boring :)

    I hope everyone has a nice holiday weekend (Judy and Helen I know you don't celebrate Memorial Day, but enjoy your weekend as well)

    Geri

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited May 2013

    Helen, I know I shouldn't have, but your post did make me smile...you are right, if it wasn't so sad, it would be entertaining, whatever next??? I hope you are enjoying reflecting on the wedding and have a restful weekend.

    Amy, I agree with what Geri wrote; I think that being honest is the best way to go; either if you decide to decline or at the end of the dinner. I have found since my BC that time is too short and we have to put ourselves first sometimes. If you are honest and polite about it (which I have no doubt you will be...), there is no need that anyone should take offence. I always used to worry about doing the right thing all the time, and even though now, I don't go out of my way to upset people, it is ok to say what you feel. If you don't want to revisit that time, that is ok, we have enough worry and stress in our lives and if we can avoid any more, then I think we should. Hope that is helpful...

    Florbo, how are you feeling today? Chelev, hope you are doing ok.

    Titan, hope the last appt goes ok for you.

    I have had a long week, 2 visits to the Onc's office (she was off sick the first time). I didn't realize till last night, how exhausted I am. We are having a quiet family supper tonight and lunch with friends tomorrow.

    Hope you all have a great long weekend (for those who do), I miss the Holiday weekends in the US!

    Hugs to you all as always, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2013

    Amy, at this stage in our lives, I think it is important to do only the things that make you happy. You've been through too much. Although this group was once helpful, it's ok to move on. I'm sure you will let them know in a kind way so they know it's not personal. It's just time for a change.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2013

    Well, we went to the dinner last night. I have to say - it was MUCH better than I anticipated.  They other couples are very lovely and warm and very fond of us. My husband and I agreed on the way home that we just could not tell them we didn't want to do it again.  They are just too kind & caring.  
    We didn't discuss the cancer history much, and everyone is doing well in that department. One woman's husband had open heart surgery, and another husband (the oldest one, in his late 80's) is beginning to show signs of dementia, which was very sad. So in some ways, it was a reminder that life is NOT just about breast cancer.

    There was other happier news as well, stories of peoples' travels, accomplishments of children and grandchildren. One of the men just retired - and I SWEAR he looked younger, happier and more relaxed than he was when we knew him 4 years ago. he had a stressful job and was glad to leave it. It was interesting to hear about the transition, and I have to say - made retirement look VERY attractive!

    So I made it through.

    in other and MUCH SADDER news, our dear little dog who is around 13, and we have had for almost 6 years (was a rescue that we adopted), ...out of the blue she had 4 very severe seizures on Thurs night. We spent most of Friday at the vet and they think it is probably caused by a brain tumor. We got medicine and  are caring for her, but we are preparing ourselves to say goodbye, probably this week. She is very beloved and we are very very sad. But I am determined that we not let her suffer just so we can be able to have her. So we are monitoring - so far the meds are working, no more seizures, but she is very weak, wobbly and spacy.  We will give it a few more days, as the vet recommended, and then make a decision. SO SAD!

    And finally, my ex husband called me tonight. We discussed the suicide attempt and the challenges he is now facing with our daughters who are understandably very upset by it, especially the pregnant one.  I tried to tow the line between honesty and diplomacy and it was very draining.  I did tell him how devestating I personally found the whole thing, that the man I loved for 2 decades and raised 2 kids with, would come to this point. He said he was very surprised that it impacted me.  Shaking my head - what do you say to that?

    Ok enough out of me. This is a long tiring weekend - we can't really go anywhere to leave the dog at this point so we are just staying around the house. It is just very sad.

    Love to all.

    Amy

    ps - in happier news - only FOUR weeks left till my daughter's due date!!!!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited May 2013

    Amy, I am glad the dinner worked out okay for you and your husband. Very sorry to read about your dog, I am sure it is making you very sad. (((hugs)))

    The call with your ex husband must have been difficult, but it sounds like you handled it well. You have had a lot to deal with recently. I hope that you manage to rest a little over this weekend.

    I can hardly believe that it is only 4 weeks till your daughter's due date - that is very exciting and good to look forward to. I hope she is feeling well and the end of the pregnancy is easy for her.

    Hope you are all enjoying your day, hugs, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited May 2013

    Hope everyone is ok, has been quiet for a couple of days.

    All ok with me thankfully. Sending you all hugs, Judy x

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited May 2013

    Hi all,

    First...Flo...doing a happy dance for you finishing rads! Hopefully your healing has begun.

    Just had another women at my work the third out of 48 be diagnosed with bc. It was a total bummer remembering all the anxiety and stress of the cancer learning curve. I did refer her to bc.org and she got a lot of info prior to meeting with her bs which she was very grateful. I'm sure she has joined an online group, or at least I hope so. Based on the original path report, looks like she might get away with a lumpectomy and rads.. I will keep my fingers crossed for her. Her surgery is June.

    My test are all good. Only two more GYN Onc appts. then I go back to a normal GYN for annual monitoring. My leg swelling is slowly improving for which I'm very thankful. I have to really watch sodium which is a big trigger for me. Another year older, one year to go on bc drugs.

    Sorry this is short. {{Hugs}} to all.

    Betsy

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2013

    Hi Ladies!

    I've been reading ya'lls posts, but have been busy just trying to keep up with my kids and friends who have been visiting.

    I've been saying prayers for all who have been having appointments.  I don't think the anxiety will ever go away.

    I am SOOO much better.  The itching and pain are very minimal now.  I just have a nice tan on one side of my chest.  I had Herceptin #4 done and 13 more to go.  My mom is back helping me out for another week which I'm so thankful for.  We are getting close to the end of the school year and it is always crazy.  We had a busy, but fun weekend.  Our friends bought a luxury suite for the Taylor Swift concert and invited our family.  It was so much fun.  TS is a great performer and has failry clean lyrics that were fine for my kids' ears.  The boys had a good time, too.  They loved all the theatrics of the show along with the food and the luxury of the suite.  We told them their concert experience will probably never ever be like this again.  

    My mom has been reading several nutrition science articles published in Asia and they are finding that adding ginger to your diet helps with a lot of disease processes.  Patients with chronic disease, cancer, stroke, etc all responded well by drinking ginger tea daily or by having more ginger in their diet (soups, veggies, etc).  Just a little FYI.

    Have a good evening!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2013

    Florbo, so glad you are feeling better. Hopefully soon the discomfort will be a distant memory. I have also heard that ginger is good as it is anti-inflammatory. But spinach, broccoli, and garlic are also very good.

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Hi Ladies, I am back from my long weekend in London - it was a very special weekend, I enjoyed celebrating my parents' Golden Wedding with them and spending time with family and friends. It recharged my batteries a little, but now I am back at my desk, it is a distant memory Wink...it was definitely the right decision to go. So happy that I did it.

    Betsy, I was sorry to read about your work colleague, I am sure she will appreciate the support you can give her. It is always difficult watching someone begin the journey. I find it traumatic. Good that your tests are all good - I am grateful for that.

    Florbo, good to read that you are feeling so much better and the concert sounds fab! So great that you are out and about and enjoying "normal" stuff.

    Helen, how are you doing? Hope everyone is doing well, and wishing you all a great week.

    Sending hugs, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited June 2013

    All fine in my world.  Baby due 3 weeks from tomorrow!!!

    Love to all,

    Amy

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Amy, we say that it should all be "in a good hour" - I hope these next few weeks are easy for your daughter and the lead up is full of excitement and laughter!

    I am celebrating my birthday today! I am actually at work, but enjoying all the attention anyway Wink...

    Hope you are all doing well and having a good day so far, sending you all hugs, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited June 2013

    Happy Birthday Judy!

    Every birthday is a victory. May you have many, many, many, MANY more!

    Love from across the world 

    Amy

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Thank you so much Amy! You are so right!

    Hugs to you all, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Dear all,

    Big "sigh" today unfortunately...it looks like my sister has BC for the second time. She went for a check up a couple of weeks ago and an MRI has shown what looks like cancer. She still has to do a biopsy, but the doctor seems pretty sure that is what it is.

    Her boys are in the middle of exams and she is waiting for definite results before telling them or my parents etc. I am sure it is going to hit the family very hard...

    I will keep you posted...my emotions are all over the place...I think overall, I am very very sad that she may have to go through it all again.

    Maybe the 10% chance will come through for us.

    I will come by again soon, big hugs to you all and hope you are doing ok, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited June 2013

    Oh Judy what sadness. This is such a hard thing. I hope the love of family pulling together during this challenge is a comfort to all of you. Sometimes that is all there is. Sending love - 

    Amy

    ps -  had my post-surg internal check up with the gyno yest.  All is fine. Since I have nothing for them to look at anymore, and my mammo and breast checks are done at onc or breast surgeon, I don't have to go back anymore unless there is something that is concerning me.  So...one less doctor on the annual list!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Thank you for your kind words Amy...it is difficult being far away from her. She is in London and we are talking regularly, but I cannot go back and forth the whole time so it makes it even harder for me to be there for her. She does have wonderful friends and a wonderful husband and sons and that is a comfort to me. If she needs me to be there, I will of course go, but the distance is hard. It is so good for me to have you all to talk to because she hasn't told anyone yet and it is hard to keep all my emotions inside. Thank you as always for being here...

    Amy, so pleased to read that your check up was all fine. How is your daughter doing, you must all be very excited now!

    This weekend, we are going to stay with old friends - even though I am very tired and somewhat distracted, it will be nice to be in good company which will hopefully take my mind off things, at least for a day or so.

    Sending you all big hugs, have a good weekend, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited June 2013

    Judy, so sad to read this about your sister. Is she also BRCA+. I have also had 2 bouts of cancer -- surgeries, chemo, rads -- 2 times for all. It is awful but doable. I hope also that your sister is one of the lucky 10% . We are here for you any time you need to vent. Tell your sister to come here too and we would happily embrace her.



    Amy, glad to hear all went well at post op. I also had post op this week and everything is good.

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited June 2013

    Judy, I'm SO sorry that your sister possibly has breast cancer again.  I will be praying that it is a piece of fat.  It sounds like she has a good support system where she is and that you can support her from where you are and visit.  Happy belated birthday, BTW.  May there be many, many more birthdays.

    My kids just got out of school. It has been a rough couple of weeks with the kids' behaviors at school.  Parenting has been really difficult and I'm just drained.  I'm looking forward to this summer where I can focus more on the boys and give them more attention and work on their hearts.

    Amy, I'm so excited that your grandbaby is coming soon.  I'm glad to hear that you are healing well post-op.

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited June 2013

    Judy, so sorry to read of your sister's possibility for a repeat breast cancer...I will pray that it is a bad scare but nothing more. If it is proven that she has to go through treatment again, as Helen said, it is doable...sad but doable. She is fortunate to have you as a sister and a support, distance or not! You are one of the most kind, thoughtful and sincere people

    I " know".

    Amy, the time is going fast...baby here soon. You must be so excited.

    I am muddling through work as best I can - it is hard with so much added responsibility since my boss is out, but I am managing. She goes for chemo #2 on Monday. She called me in tears yesterday because her hair is coming out in clumps. She did get it cut short last week, but I told her she needs to buzz it and she is going today. Her daughters who also work in the company are so upset over the hair loss - I remember it made everything " real" then.

    I'm glad everyone's check ups have gone well.

    Off to see a venue for my daughter's bridal shower - at least there are good things to look forward to. Have a great weekend everyone

    Geri

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Hi ladies, hope you are all doing ok and having a good weekend. Thank you all for your kind words and love and support. It has been quite a hard weekend; we were at old friends and enjoyed good food, wine and company and it made me feel a little better. My sister had her biopsy yesterday and will have the results on Wednesday. She does not know if she is BRCA 1 or 2. She didn't do the testing, but has said that she will most likely do it now that this has happened again. She is also talking about having the bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction whatever the results are, because she doesn't want to have to live with the fear of going through it all again and again. She is a very strong woman who has had her share of knocks in her life and has come out fighting, so I know she can do this if she needs to, but just wish that she didn't have to. Thank you again for all your support.

    Helen, good to hear that your post op was all good. Florbo, I hope the summer brings you and your children some calm quality time together.

    Geri, I am sorry that your boss is having such a hard time - the hair loss was one of the hardest parts for me, so I understand completely. I am sure that you are a big support to her.

    But, it is nice to have the bridal shower in the planning stages, hopefully, that will help to keep your mind on the good stuff in our lives, it is always good to have something to celebrate.

    Amy, how is your daughter doing? Must be sooo excited now!

    Sending you special ladies a big hug today, Judy x

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited June 2013

    Judy--your sister has been in my thoughts often these past few days.  My heart is just heavy for her as she awaits the results.

    Geri--your boss can NOT have a better person there to support her through her BC.  You've been there, done that, and knows what she is going through.  

    My September 2012 chemo group is pretty tight-knit.  We have planned a girls weekend in September for everyone to meet, hug, cry, and celebrate life in Las Vegas.  There will be 16 of us.  Several are coming in from Canada.  We have rented a villa with this amazing pool and lots of bedrooms (because we are all still needing our sleep).  I'm really excited to finally meet my cyber support group in person.  But then there is part of me that thinks, "What if they don't like me?  What if we don't get along?"

    Have a good evening!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Thank you Florbo, I am thinking about her all the time, I cannot imagine how she is feeling today...she should get her results tomorrow. I appreciate your support.

    Your weekend away sounds fab! I am sure you will get along and just enjoy the relaxing atmosphere together.

    Hope everyone is doing ok, hugs to you all, Judy xxx

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    So, the results came back, it is BC again...sigh...

    She sent me an sms "got the results, is not good news, here we go again..."

    She sees the Onc on Friday and we will know more then. Thank you all for being here. Hope you are all ok.

    Hugs to you all, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited June 2013

    Judy - I know you are not surprised, but it is still very painful and difficult news. I am so sorry for your sister, and your entire family. This has got to bring awful memories and fears to you as well.

    I wonder - would SHE consider coming onto BCO? Maybe it would be helpful to her during this time.

    Does she have children? If so, maybe she will get the genetic testing so they will know whether to get tested also.  This is all just so hard. I am so sorry.

    There is a group called FORCE in the US - (Facing Our Risk), that specializes in support for hereditary cancers (breast/ovarian). They seem very helpful. I wonder if they might have something to offer - or if something like that exists either in Israel for you, or the UK for her (if she does test for the gene mutation). http://www.facingourrisk.org/ 

    All fine here- under 2 weeks left till my daughter's due date.  The doc said this week that the baby is in 'optimum position' and now it is just a matter of waiting, that all is up to the baby! So we wait and see.  I never watched the calendar this much before! 

    Love to all, Amy

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    Thank you Amy; this is very hard for all of us. I have not told my kids yet and I am nervous as my middle daughter is very fragile and is still traumatized from when I was sick. I had thought about suggesting this site to my sister or another similar one. I will look into the FORCE. I just don't want to overwhelm her at the moment.

    She has two boys, ages 16 and 14. They were young when she had it the first time, so telling them will also be very hard. At least we know we all have eachother to fall back on and lean on.

    But, on a lighter note, we look forward to hearing good news Amy, hope your daughter is feeling well.

    This evening, we are going out with friends, most of us have birthdays in June, so we get together to celebrate. It feels a bit strange to be going out and having fun, but I suppose it is just all part of carrying on with our lives.

    Hope everyone is doing ok, hugs to all, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited June 2013

    It was good to get out last night and spend time with good friends. I needed that.

    Hope you are all doing ok and wishing you all a great weekend Smile!

    Hugs to you all, Judy x

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