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  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    I can relate to so many of you here. When I was first diagnosed I wanted both breasts gone. They wouldn't do it. So for two years I was a uniboober. I was scheduled to have prophylactic mx on left and bilateral diep in July 2009. In June of 2009 I found a recurrence so had to cancel surgery. I went through rads and in July 2010 I was finally given prophylactic mx and was told I was no longer a candidate for recon.

    A year and a half ago I started seeing a new onc ( mine retired) and she asked why I had decided not to recon as I am only 41 now. I explained everything to her and she cried for me. She has done so much to get me here, now, to a surgery date for bilateral diep.

    So, now more than 6 years into my journey I have a little hope of regaining a little normalcy. Part of ending my marriage that was difficult was I was trying to come to terms with being alone for the rest of my life. I couldn't imagine being with anyone because of the embarrassment of trying to explain the whole bc thing and the removal of my breasts at night and putting them on in the morning. I believe this surgery is going to be a huge step in my healing process.

    Thanks for getting it and thanks for listening!

    Sherry

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited June 2013

    Sherry,



    Huge hug for you! I cried reading that your old med onc could be so ignorant and then happy tears that you have a new med onc that gets THE WHOLE PICTURE of a breast cancer patient.



    Blessings to you on your DIEP natural breast reconstruction surgery and please keep us posted!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    LOL, sbelizabeth.  I am gathering you are not a big fan of housework. hehehehehe. I use to be OSD about it.  Over the last few years I became much more relaxed, thank goodness, or I would have one more issue to deal with right now. 

    Is the PT helping your shoulder?  My right shoulder hurts a little when I wake up in the morning, and is a little stiffer than the other.  I am doing my Yoga now, although not to full capacity. I can feel it helping with my ROM.  I found myself stretching my arms when I woke up yesterday without even thinking about it. Baby steps.  I really need to get some cardio going, it's just so freaking hot here already. 

  • ssla01
    ssla01 Member Posts: 480
    edited June 2013

    Welcome Sherry. Congratulations on moving forward with your life.



    Many people around me just don't get it either even though some are well-meaning. I am so thankful to have you all as "my people".



    Sharon

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    Oh Sherry, that is an unbelievable story, and journey you have been on.  Shame on your first doc. Where did they find the recurrence? If it was in the breast they refused to remove I would have lost it on them.  I am so glad you found a compassionate doctor to work with, and your new body is right around the corner.  Here's to be whole, and happy!!!!!

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    God Bless "the people" cuz no one else really gets it!! Good to know there are others who have gone down this path before and are willing to help us newbies. It's really a life changing event, not a "bump in the road" as others like to call it. I just tell them, when you walk a mile in my shoes, then we can talk... I think back and hope and pray I never said anything offensive or stupid to a breast cancer patient. Ugh!! I'd be horrified!

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited June 2013

    OMG..sherry, what a journey you have had. I bow to your courage. I will never, ever, complain about anything again, so very glad that you found yourself an Onc who "cares" for you...major hugs going out to you!!!!!!  TOWANDA!!!!!

    Lyndamarie....congrats on saying goodbye to the drain. 

    sbelizabeth, liefie....((((X)))) thanks. hmmm.....seems we have a budding "rap star" in our ranks...eh sbe????

    Bailey...hang in there, you can do this. 

    Janet......close to being done, I bet....rest easy now, and start the healing.

    Dvygrl....yep, "God Bless US"!!!!

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Hello ladies,



    Had surgery and just got out of the hospital yesterday. I had a horrid experience with the nurses and dh thnks that it was because of the morphine pump they had me on. Apparanlty it makes me act like I just downed a fifth of whiskey and need a figt.



    The pain has been more than I was prepared for but we ar managing each day a it comes. I thnk I will heal faster oncethe drains are out.



    How long before you didnt feel like you needed to be hunched over when you walked? How quicky did you push yourself to be active again? Right now I go from the bed to the recliner to the bathroom and back again. Thanks for listening.

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited June 2013

    Sweetpickle, welcome to the other side, and happy you're doing well! That story about the morphine making you wanna fight is actually quite funny - lol! Just keep on the pain medication, and you will be fine. As far as the bent over thing and the activity, you seem to be right on track. Every day you will get better, and be able to do a little more. Pace yourself though and take it slow - you don't wanna compromize those precious new girls or your flat tummy, eh? Best wishes!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    LIKE A DOG OUT THE WINDOW! Roflmao. My 14 year old son came with and hung his head out, too, we were laughing so hard (so hard my plication was killing me). Faster than I can ride my bike for sure (we had people behind us). No bugs in my teeth and hubby threatened to run my head into a mailbox (he's a funny guy). It was some much needed stupid fun.



    My heart goes out to you for all of your journies. So glad to have found some sisters that "get it". Sometimes you come across an empathetic soul that has the ability to truly see what is happening or has been through or seen serious illness so they can get it, too. When I come across somebody that doesn't get it I try to not get mad but rather be grateful....the fewer people that have to travel this road the better.



    Wow, Sherry. Just, wow. So happy you found an onc who gave you new options and that you found us along the way!

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    Thanks ladies! Truly thank you. I have made my way to these boards several times. First when diagnosed, then when I found the recurrence ( it was the same cancer in tissue that was left under my arm). Again when I started to feel like my marriage was on the rocks and thought it was just me and then about a month or two ago when I knew this surgery was going to happen.

    I don't know anyone else who has been through this and I often beat myself up and say come on its been 6 years get over yourself but these are real feelings and bc is going to be part of my life for the rest of my life. I'm not dwelling on the bad but do have my days. It's not something we just "get over"!

    Knowing that I can come here and vent, laugh, cry or just gather knowledge lightens my heart!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    Sweetpickle! You sound like you are right where you ought to be! Sounds like you have a morphine-induced alter ego....we will call her Dillpickle! :)



    Welcome to the other side! Hugs to you!



    I was upright about day 10 much to everyone's surprise....don't push it! Listen to your body! And doctor's orders!

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2013

    Bailey- sorry I'm so drain crazy (left over residual - LOL - even 6 mos later) that I said drain pain instead of drain crazy! Sorry!!!

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Lynda - yay on drain free.

    Now if I could be 'binder' free I think I'd be good.  PS says he wants me to keep it on for another week just to be sure we don't allow some fluid build up.  I'm fine with that.

    My feet swelled up again today.  I don't eat / add salt so I'm not sure why.  But maybe I need to get up and move around more.

    Tomorrow, 3 wks post op, I'm going to drive.  My sister is taking her car to the shop.  I'll pick her up at the shop, then we will stop at IHOP for breakfast, then home.  So, total about 20 miles.  I'll use my husbands car, as mine is a stick shift and I'm not ready to try that yet. Then I have an afternoon appt at DMV for my daughter to take her driver's license test.

    I want to clean my house.  I want to pick up stuff. I want to sweep. I want to dust. I want to vacuum.  I WANT TO CLEAN MY KITCHEN!!! OMG I NEED to clean my kitchen.  I'm afraid everyone is going to hate me Saturday. See, Saturday is chore day and I plan to get everybody up and make them do their regular Satruday chores, which includes cleaning house.  But, I wont be doing, I'll be supervising.  They're gonna be hating on me. LOL  It's all too much.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    SheChirple, be sure to get your thyroid level checked.  Mine was dead as a rock, and the only symptom I had was swelling in my feet and a feeling of puffiness in my face.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    I have Hashimotos already. Wonder if chemo is gonna kill it totally. Probably just keep taking the same meds??

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited June 2013

    Wow sherry! Your story is unbelievable! I'm so glad you found the right doctor to take care of you. Better late than never. When I had my surgery I thought I was going to feel so insecure about myself. It has completely shocked me that it hasn't! The first two weeks were the worst ones. I have never been so motivated to take care of my body and realized how lucky I am to have this body. There's always worst, so I consider myself fortunate:)

    Goldie, how many lymphs did your BS remove? I haven't have any trouble with my arms, but I only got 3 from the right and 2 from left.

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited June 2013

    Shechirple, I actually had the cleaning ladies come yesterday to clean. I looked at my husband and told him to pay. You should have seen his face! He was not impressed at all! After they left I told my DH, if you don't help me clean the house, then you're going to help me pay for the cleaning;). I bet you next time I ask him to clean the bathrooms or mop he won't think twice about it!

  • ssla01
    ssla01 Member Posts: 480
    edited June 2013

    Nicely done Kuka. Wish I had the nerve!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    I took a one week vacation with two girlfriends last year, to surprise one for her 50th. We had never done something like that (and I highly recommend!).

    Anyhow, my husband hired a cleaning crew while I was gone. I was so mad! Came home to find all the paperwork I had laid out...to be done when I got back, all boxed up. It was my own household, my moms and my dads(he had passed earlier in the year). Then I saw the credit card bill for close to $300!!! I had a HUGE fit. I felt he could have out the darn time in to clean. LAZY! No one pays me to clean my house!



    Now that I am facing surgery in the fall I am very concerned about my household. After my lumpectomy no one cleaned, so it was on me. After DIEP I plan to sit and do as the doctors say. But I don't think I can live in the filth. So I am actually considering hiring someone (um, not for $300!) ...at least I would be here to supervise!



    Good for you Kula. Hubby and I agreed to NEVER bring up the "cleaning crew incident" again.



    Pat

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    Way to go kuka, I love that!

    I was ok with losing my breast. It wasn't a question I had! Just get all the cancer out! Little did I know back then that my husband took issue with my decisions and withdrew himself from me. My self esteem issues are rooted in that, not the cancer itself.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think getting breasts will make someone love me. I just think when I'm ready to get out there again( if that day comes) I will feel a whole lot more comfortable with myself.

    I've had no choice but to keep my house clean ( I hate housework!) because it's for sale and there are showings popping up all the time. I like to be ready at a moments notice. Gotta get this sucker sold!

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    Sweetpickle, glad to hear you are doing well! Thinking of the girls that went this week.

    I continue to take in all of the vets information, struggles, achievements and stories of recovery. Thank you all for sharing!

    God bless.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    Kuka, I was really lucky in the lymph node department. I had a special procedure the day before my surgery that located and marked my sentinel node.  The next day when they injected the dye they knew exactly which node was the sentinel, and they did a biopsy, but left it intact.  So, I have a very small chance of lymphedema.  That is the one thing I can say about my breast surgeon.  The rest has been a nightmare because of her.  I just have to keep on move on. I am numb under my arms, but I am still tender.  Does that make sense.  I am sure it's a pretty common side effect of mx.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    I'll chime in here and raise my hand on the dead thyroid...don't know if chemo or rads or both got it.



    When you get through tx and you give yourself time to recover (ask your doc what is "normal") and you are still having symptoms (fatigue for example) despite taking good care of yourself then it's time to start teasing out why and what you can do about it. Be persistent with docs. There is some stuff you find you have to live with and learn to adapt, but other things that can be corrected or made more tolerable. PTs and OTs can be invaluable....find good ones...and there are some out there that specialize in b/c tx.



    My go to is the nurse practitioner in my on/gyn's office. She specializes in hormones and menopause. She is the one who listened to me about my thyroid. And she understands what happens to a woman who has no estrogen and what we can do to make me feel better. She is a blessing to me!



    Now I am going to sleep with my drains....hopefully for the last time EVER in my long, long life!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited June 2013

    Oh, I have been meaning to ask you all this question.  The weirdest sensation I have since my bmx is that when I drink something cool I can feel it going down in a different way than before. Does anybody else know what I mean?  It's not that you feel it from the outside, but you feel the coolness as it goes down.

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2013

    Goldie- I've had this too. Not all of the time but yes can definitely feel the cold go down inside. Weird?!

    I had 23 nodes (axilla and tail removed) and luckily no issues with lymphadema so far! Knock on wood! I don't allow blood pressure cuffs or needle pricks in my right arm.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    Off topic question, but I couldn't find a thread for it. I was told by all my docs cuz I have estrogen + receptors that I am to have no soy at all. Being hypothyroid I thought I was good at avoiding it. But we've been reading labels on food and literally everything has soy in it. If its processed, soy. Even my blessed chocolate!! I'm trying to decide how fanatical I need to get with this soy thing. Anyone else worrying about the food thing?

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited June 2013

    Goldie, I had that happened to me too! It is so weird!!

    I have a friend who has implants and one night she told me to go in the powder bathroom because she wants to show me something. She takes her top of and puts a flashlight right y ser her greats. They started glowing red!!!!' I think since I can't sleep I'm going to so a little experiment. Stay tuned in for the report😄

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    Dyvgrl, my onc said edemame and food-type soy was ok in reasonable amounts, but no soy supplements, such as isoflavone pills.  I checked around on the internet for research that addressed it, and what I found confirmed that.

    I try to stay away from processed soy as much as I can, but I'm not OCD about it.  Just like I have a glass (or two) of wine once in a while.

    If we try to enclose ourselves into a rigid, legalistic box of weight control, macrobiotics, no alcohol, no sugar, no saturated fat...we might not actually live longer, but it will sure FEEL longer.  

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited June 2013

    Omg! It works!! My foobs turned glowing red and my veins were even glowing!

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