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  • Tina72
    Tina72 Member Posts: 484
    edited June 2013

    Redrawn, I agree with the others in saying it is too early to say if faslodex is working.

  • Redroan
    Redroan Member Posts: 168
    edited June 2013

    Thanks for your thoughts. My tumor markers have been decreasing quite nicely with arimidex, until several months ago when it was slowly creeping up. Then onc decided to switch to Faslodex , had 2 loading doses and a 1 month shot. markers doubled. So he says change. My pain in back is no better, I am really just doing what he says. I have trusted him so far. And I guess I will continue, I am in a rural area so not a whole lot of options but I have trusted him so far. I really want to continue. Was really hoping to get a lot more time out of arimidex and  faslodex then I did. 

  • Redroan
    Redroan Member Posts: 168
    edited June 2013

    Oh and yes he is doing ct scan every 3 months or so and I had increase in size of liver tumor that had been shrinking . sorry I forgot that part. 

    Redroan

  • S3K5
    S3K5 Member Posts: 606
    edited June 2013

    Redroan, sorry to hear about the progression in liver tumor size - that may be the reason for the markers to go up. Ofcourse, you have to go with what your oncologist says - he knows what is best for you. I was just curious about Faslodex treatment (based on my doctor's opinion).

    We are here to hold hands and to lend support. Hope some treatment works for you.

    Desi.

  • M360
    M360 Member Posts: 356
    edited June 2013

    Tina2,

    I'm still having pain with my injections the hip pain after shots is relieved for me with Lyrica, Volteran Cream and LMX cream rubbed all over right after they give the injections.  I actually do the LMX cream fifteen minutes before while I'm doind chemo.  

    Tomorrows discussion after PET Scan will be are these working because I believe my bone mets have moved into my right arm and shoulder.  I can't imagine having the Faslodex shots in my right hip after the bone marrow surgery!  I have a painful lower back with everything I do since I started these shots.  I use to be able to walk five miles a day, now I walk half a block and the lower back pain sets in big time that it stops me in my steps.

    If you have arthritis and are Stage IV, I would discuss with your Rheumatologist to talk with Oncologist about  adding Cytoxan.  I would not be able to do the Faslodex shots without Cytoxan.  I only have lower back pain and pain where there is cancer in the bone.  But the swelling and joint pain, feet swelling pain also gone since doctors put me on Cytoxan.  If my blood levels are down and they can't give Cytoxan they also wait to give me my Faslodex, knowing what happens to me from them.

    I have found that women who have arthritis or other soft tissue and bone diseases seem to have much more pain than those who don't, my doctors say that it causes flairs with arthritis and it's important to find a way to ease the situation.  Like I said before all the meds before have helped me to be able to stay on Faslodex.

    Now if the Scans tomorrow show even more cancer and tumor growth, they are thinking of changing me out to something else.  I've seen how many women have done so well with Faslodex and I really want to keep on it. 

  • c-k-j
    c-k-j Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2013

    Lynn, I'm sorry you are having trouble with the injections.  It doesn't help to have a battle axe nurse.  I occasionally get a nurse who fills in for the others when they are on vacation and she is a puncher.  However, they all only inject the needle as far as it needs to go to reach the muscle and not all of the needle.  The needle is a one size fits all and the length needs to be adjusted to your body type. I hope I said that in a clear manner; the needle comes with a brace so the nurse can inject without a chance of it breaking off. I got a prescription for lydocain which I apply before I leave for my appointment so it is good and numb by the time I get my injection.  Rubbing the knot out of the muscle helps and I alternate between warm packs and cold packs.  I don't sit on hard surfaces for a week and my husband gets all the butt pats in before the injection!  Hope some of these tips help; I got them off this message board when I started this journey 18 months ago.  Best wishes and fast healing.   

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    My metastases are to the right hip (which had to be replaced because it was about to fracture) and the right ilium near the SI joint. I've also had radiation to both areas. I find that the Faslodex injection on the left (unaffected) side doesn't hurt much, at least so far, but I have a lot of pain on the right side. In fact, I have more pain with walking now than I did a couple of weeks after the hip replacement! I can hardly walk for about 10 days after the injections. I'm going to try all your suggestions--alternating heat and cold and rubbing the lump. Do I need a prescription for the Volteran or LMX cream?

  • donsuzbee
    donsuzbee Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2013

    5th month of tumor markers being low! I ask the oncologist if perhaps the tumors are gone on my adrenaline gland and in my back. She said "let's just say the cancer is resting awhile" My back is getting worse, but I just thought it is because I have a bowel problem that cannot be corrected - no surgery with bc. (tried to enter correct name for problem. My touch pad kept changing to a male situation! My touch pad has a mind of it's own!) Do not want to have a PET scan unless I absolutely need to. So am not since the tumor markers are down. When I was first diagnosed with mets to spine, oncologist said "your back is a mess anyway with arthritis" Could be I'm in denial blaming all of mine pain on other body issues. But at least my tumor markers don't indicate so.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    Is anyone taking Tamoxifen along with Faslodex? My MO wants me to take a bisphosphonate or similar drug, but I just really, really can't. I'm terrified of ONJ. I'm wondering if the Tamoxifen would help my bones, at least a little, and satisfy the doctor!

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited June 2013

    Would you consider taking Xgeva for a short while?  I believe most of the ONJ cases are from women who have been taking bisphoshonates, Zometa or Xgeva for a long time- years.  If you took it for 12 months, you could still do a lot of good for your bones and the chances of ONJ would be low.

    I've been on Xgeva for 2 years. My onc decided to take me off it it now, as it has done its job, and the risk of ONJ is greater for those on it longer.I believe it has made a huge difference in the strength of my cancer riddled bones and probably is the reason I haven't lost more bone. I was actually afraid to go off of it because the results have been so positive.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    Sandilee, I hadn't thought about taking Xgeva for just a short time. Actually, I don't know much about which people are more likely to get ONJ. I had to have a tooth extracted after being on oral bisphosphonates, and had to stop the drug and wait for 8 months to have the tooth out. My oral surgeon told me about ONJ and described it as "horrendous". When I looked it up, it really was horrendous. I planned never to take those drugs again, and then i was diagnosed with bone mets and was so upset when i found out that bisphosphonates are used to treat bone mets. Do you know what percentage of women taking Xgeva get ONJ?

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited June 2013

    Hi Mary, ONJ is a very rare side-effect of the drugs.  It usually [only] occurs in conjunction with major dental work (like your tooth extraction).  My dentist told me not to worry unless we had to do dental work.

    I am taking letrozole (femara) along with Faslodex, Xometa and Lupron.  It's early days yet but the only side-effects I have (besides the menopausal ones) is the butt pain after the shots.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    Tina2, I'm having quite a bit of pain from the injections. My mets are to the right hip and right ilium near the SI joint. I had a hip replacement and radiation to both areas. The injection on the right side is painful when I get it, and then gets a lot more painful. My last one was 2 1/2 weeks ago, and I'm just now walking with less pain. Walking is harder now than it was a couple of weeks after my surgery. The injection on the left side is ok so far. I think the pain on the right side is probably from continuing trauma to an already traumatized area.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    I'm pretty new here, and have some, ahem, procedural questions. What do these mean--DH, DD, DS?

  • slousha
    slousha Member Posts: 312
    edited June 2013

    Hi MaryLW,

    I already posted to you the Abbreviations from BCO (Breastcancerorganisation)

    Best

    Usha

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    Well, it took me awhile to figure it out but I'm pretty sure DD is dear daughter, DS is dear son and DH, is, well I think you get it. Dear husband. There you go DF

  • slousha
    slousha Member Posts: 312
    edited June 2013

    Hi MaryLW,

    I already posted to you the Abbreviations from BCO (Breastcancerorganisation)

    Best

    Usha

  • M360
    M360 Member Posts: 356
    edited June 2013

    Ladies, I'm signing off of being a Faslodex Girl, sorry to say.  As much as it has  been working for me and keeping my tumors from growing.... Yesterday when I went in for my chemo and shots my port wasn't working.  I had been complaining about bad shoulder arm pain for the past three weeks.  Well after they did xrays they said I had a clot in the tubing of my port.  Hours and hours later and not one but 2 TPA.s, they decided I was too sick to have chemo and shots, but they would do PET Scan.  During the whole procedure I kept telling nurses that I can't take a deep breath.  I was told aftermath of the TPA's I'll be filling better tomorrow.  I didn't get home til after midnight last night, hospital said I was good to go.  Only to have to phone ringing off the hook early this morning, but I was exhausted so didn't answer.  So I get up listen to messages and am told that I urgently need to get into the hospital I have two pulmonary embolisms.  Did what I was told and will have to take injections every 12 hours for 20 days.  The culprit they say is the Faslodex, one of the side effects.   So no longer this medication that works wonder for my cancer but is causing clots.  Can't catch a break.

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    M360 reading your post made my hair stand on edge. I was so sorry to read it. I do hope something is found that will work for you and won't have any side effects. Sending you light and love and good vibes.

    Teresa

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited June 2013

    Holy s--t, Tree, this is awful news! How are you feeling now? Are you still in the hospital or home? PLEASE tell us where you're going to post so we can know how you're doing.

    Freaked and worried about you,

    Tina

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    It's not me, Tina, its m360. But I agree with Tina. Holy s---t and let us know where you will continue to post so that we can stay together.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited June 2013

    m360, how awful!  R U OK?  Glad they found the PEs in time.  Have they managed to "fix" them out for you?

  • Tish_13
    Tish_13 Member Posts: 67
    edited June 2013

    M360,

    My heart goes out to you. I hope you have good care and this mess is getting cleaned up. Sending you hugs, healing light and a big dose of fight it off attidude your way.

    Tish

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited June 2013

    Oh M360. This is scary stuff indeed. Please let us know how you are doing. You have quickly become part of our little group and I am so sorry that you have had this side effect. Be well,

    *susan*

  • milehighgirl
    milehighgirl Member Posts: 444
    edited June 2013

    Hi everyone.  Today I am officially a Faslodex girl.  Got my first shots today.  I have read with great interest many of the posts.  If I were to experience any side effects, how soon after the shot should I expect them?  I'm hoping I have few but reading here I'm a little concerned that I may blossom out with something in the middle of the night.

    I also got a xgeva shot as I have some mets to the hip socket and some in lower spine.   Nothing so far in terms of injection site swelling or soreness with either shots.

    Looking forward to your replies.  Sue

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited June 2013

    Sue, if you're not sore now, maybe you won't be at all. My soreness starts right away, and gradually gets better over about a two week period. The only other side effect I've had is hot flashes. I don't remember how soon they started, but I think it was pretty soon. I have them pretty bad.

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited June 2013

    Sue, welcome to the Fanny Pack! I've been on Faslodex for nearly two years. It has knocked my lung mets into mere shadows of their former selves and I am grateful. That said, here's my litany of my SEs:

    I had a fair amount of strong hot flashes in the first months, but they've eased up--or I've just gotten accustomed to them. For the first year or so I had very itchy red welts at the injection site, then figured out that I was allergic to the adhesive in bandaids, so I began asking for paper tape and that was pretty much the end of the itching. Sometimes the injections really hurt as they're being given, sometimes not. My nurse now uses a numbing spray beforehand, which helps somewhat.

    Sometimes I have nausea. I often have bruising around the site , some months worse than others. Lumpiness under the skin continues. The skin on my upper buttocks and hips is sore in some places, numb in others. Deep and abiding pain in my lower back that I attribute to the injections is a sorry fact of my life now, but I'm learning how to deal with it with NSAIDs and muscle relaxants.

    The important thing I keep firmly in mind is that the stuff is working. This thought makes the SEs bearable, although what just happened to M360 is really frightening and a reminder to us all that being on this stuff is serious business, no matter how "mild" our SEs may appear compared to those of "harsher" chemos.

    Tina

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    Good morning sue, thought I'd answer this now that I've been on faslodex for 9months, along with a daily dose of Aromasin and a monthly shot of Xgeva for bones. I am pst menopausal , and my onc said tha tif I had hot flashes during menopause, I'd probably have them with Aromasin and/or faslodex. I was lucky enough to not experience hot flashes and have had none during this regime. More than that, I don't appear to have any side effects at all. Ah, perhaps tiredness but I think that comes with the stress of cancer and my age.

    But Tina is right. What happened to M360 is real and is not to be taken lightly. Of course it doesn't mean we stop taking faslodex, but we need to be aware that these are powerful drugs.

    Oh, also, I don't have the hair I used to have last summer. It has become thin and dry, but at least I still have it.

    Hope this helps.

    Teresa

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited June 2013

    Hi Sue, I go for my fourth set of shots on Monday.  The first set was a breeze.  Second/third I had a stinging rear from the evening of the shots to the next morning.  After that sore for a couple of days. 

    I am allergic to the shots somehow.  Get rashes at the injection site.  On advice here I'm going to take benadryl this time. 

    As for systemic side effects, I've been taking Lupron and tamoxifen for years now.  I don't notice anything different in the realm of menopausal symptoms.  Although I do notice more hair on my comb.  Sigh.

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    Hey, Pajim, I go for mine on thurs. so we're kind of on the same time line. I treat at mount Auburn, mainly because its within walking distance, and I do feel I get excellent treatment there. I love my drs and the nurses who shoot me up on a monthly basis. I suspect that is not where you treat.

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