DIEP 2013
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Goldie what is your surgery date? I don't see it listed.
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Funny you should ask, Bailey. It was set for July 10th. Then I went for a second opinion, and I was waiting for one more appt with my current PS to make up my mind. Then I got a call today saying they need to change my surgery to July 24 because there needs to be two surgeons to do a diep flap? And, my surgeons co-surgeon all of a sudden wasn't available till the 24th. So, now I am wondering if that is a sign that I go with the second opinion surgeon. They are both great, I like them both, I just have to follow my gut. UGh!!!!!
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It was fun Lyndia, but it's over now....
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Thank you liefie and Goldie. Yes I'm known for trying to do too much too soon. I'm a ver impatient person!! But this time I need to wait it out. I'm going to rest for the weekend and maybe do pool exercises or my elliptical. For sure something with low impact!
Bailey I think you shod go to that party. Just relax and have a good time!
Goldie, maybe is a sign! I would still meet with him next week and compare both PS's.
I actually have great news. The blister on my right side has closed up completely. That was the good one! And the one on Myers is finally growing new tissue! I'm beyond excited right now. This probably means no skin graft and having my stage 2 done before summer is over! Yay!!! -
Goldie - if you are having bilateral DIEP you really should have 2 surgeons as it shortens the surgical time and gives back up if there are any challenges.
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Goldie, my flap surgery requires 2 surgeons as well. One focuses on the breast tissue and contours while the other focuses on the microsurgery reconnecting blood supply, etc. even still will be a 10-12 hr surgery. Personally, I wouldn't want only one person cutting on me for that long! I think the team approach works best. I too have been jostled around schedule wise to get all my surgeons lined up, it's just how it goes. If you trust them to do the work, it's worth the wait.
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Goldie - all good things must come to an end... :-(
Kuka - great news!
My drain has finally dropped to less than 100cc a day. It seems to be dropping significantly every day. I only have one hip drain but can't wait for it to be gone. Hopefully early next week. My PS said to call when output was closer to 30. I am still around 70 but hope to make that mark early next week!
DH just left with all three kids for cub scout family camp. As a flapper, I get a reprieve this year. Surgery does have its benefits. I have a peaceful house until Sunday. -
LyndaMarie - enjoy your peaceful home. Often when one hip drain is removed, the other begins producing more as it takes over for the removed drain. My doctor prefers to stagger the removal of the hip drains as this can reduce the likelihood of a seroma.
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Lyndamarie, you're so lucky! You get a quite house for a whole weekend! That's exactly what I need and for my 3 year old to come back potty trained;) enjoy the weekend!!!
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Yeah, I have heard the MartyJ, and I am not upset about that, it's just they way they handled the scheduling. I bet you it was a adminstrative error and the doc is not happy. The woman who does the surgery scheduling didn't take into account that I was bmx and not umx.
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Kuka, that is great news about your blister!!!!! You are on your way. See, good things come those who wait. Now, get some rest and your shin splints will feel better. You know 80percent of weight loss is diet....right? So concentrate on that, and don't over do.
You are right about the PS's. Now I have more time to make up my mind.
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Thinking of you all day Heavenschild, Sherbab and Sweetpickle! Hope all went well today!
Sbelizabeth, thank you for thinking about me yesterday for first chemo treatment. So far so good, also got nublast shot today and day 2 of 3 of emend for nausea.
I got the go ahead to buy a comfy bra to replace this damn compression bra. Went to Maidenform at the outlets and found a good one in 3 colors. I never did have to wear any compression on my abdomen, thank god. From the previous posts, it's not the most comfortable, but I bet it looks good under clothing.
My stage 2 won't occur until chemo is over in 4 months.
Sorry about the shin splints Kuka, I hear that's painful! I ran for a very short time in the 90's, did 2 half marathons, then never went back. I'm more of elliptical person and love step classes for cardio. I enjoy walking too, as my town is on the shore of CT and is quite beautiful along the roads on the water.
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Kuka, I'm so glad to hear your good blister news. I'll bet you are relieved.
LyndaMarie, I'm jealous of your quiet weekend too
Goldie, my surgery is in two weeks. There will be two surgeons. Go with your gut.
Sharon -
If I need two surgeons I wish I could have both of the ones I like work together, but alas, they work in two different cities, and hospitals. So, after my next appt with my current PS I might have to draw straws, or roll dice.
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Lmo, sorry about the chemo. We are all cheering you on. Stage 2 is right around the corner.
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Woo hoo, Kuka on the blister healing!!! I know the feeling and it's soooooo goooood!!!!
Goldie4040 - yes you need 2 microsurgeons - they work together like Marty said to make sure your surgery isn't going on forever!! -
LMO, did your onc tell you the Neulasta would give you bone pain? For me, it got pretty zingy in some weird areas. My back and hips I could understand, but the bones in my nose? On the top of my head? What REALLY helps is Claritin, or the Costco version of it, which is mondo cheap. You start taking it the day of the Neulasta shot and keep taking it for a couple of weeks. Benadryl at night, too. It helps smooth over the bone pain. For me, the Neulasta was a huge blessing. I never missed a chemo because of low blood counts, and with the help of careful handwashing and avoiding germy folks, I never got sick. Constipated, yes!
TWO legless buzzy reptiles on this evening's ride! One was just a baby with a little bitty button. My (dumb, IMHO) husby wanted to move the little guy off the trail so he wouldn't get run over, so he finds two long poles, picks the thing up with them, and moves him, furious and striking at the sticks, to the bushes. I'm still ahead on the count. Katy 10, husby 5. BUT!...he took my bicycle to the shop before I got home from work today and bought me two new tires, so I gave him one of my rattlesnakes. The score is officially 9 to 5.
Happy weekend, sisters!
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Oh, and LMO--if you react to chemo the way most of us do, you'll have your "Chemo Saturday" tomorrow. On my "Chemo Fridays" I never felt nauseated, just exhausted like I had the flu, without the sore throat and cough. And muddle-headed. At first, I tried to read and work from home a little, but it just didn't happen; it was like my brain had been replaced with wet cotton. I always felt fine by Sunday.
Rest. Watch Downton Abbey. Drink ice water. Rest. Katy
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Thinking of our three new "veterans" today......it'll likely be a tough couple days, but then things get so much better.
LMO..."hugs going out to you"....you'll get through chemo, many of us have gone that route and once you know what the se's will be for you....you'll find things to help you through.
Goldie....let me know when you have a definite date and I'll "express" you onto the list. I was a uni, and had two PS working on me. I think it's pretty standard for most flap surgeries....
Pretty tired tonight, but really happy......I made it back to my mountains today. Didn't get as high as I'd hoped....but I was there.
Have good nights.....rest easy, newbies....catch you all tomorrow.
ps....sbelizabeth.....pfft....you used the "S" word....bad girl!!!!!!!
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AWESOME PIC! Looks like a great day!
I am uni DIEP and had two surgeons....one PS and one micro PS (meaning she does microsurgery....not that she's really tiny). -
I will let you ninahi. I want the decision made soon, but like I have been trying to convince Kuka, I need to take my time, no more mistakes. Now that the cancer is out of me I have the luxury of really thinking this over, and over, and over. My poor DH.
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My night not to sleep. Too much thinking. Ive got 3 showings on my house this weekend. It's been for sale for almost a year, maybe this will be the time. I've got court on the 28th- third appearance-ugh!
Now that I have a date for my diep I've got physical appt. I've got pre admit clinic and an appt with PS early July!
I hope everything falls into place- I really need it to! -
Lmo45: I found the best bra for me is the Fruit of the Loom, cross / racer back, front hook closure sports bra at WalMart - $10. They come in black, white and beige. 100% cotton and very comfy. No cup size to worry about. Fit just like the post surgical bra the doc puts on you.
godlie: on two surgeons. I grilled my PS about his assistant, make sure you take breaks, a nice long lunch/dinner break , potty breaks, all that good stuff. Take your time, take a nap even, just be well rested, well fed and have each others' back. It was the first time I had seen my PS laugh. He is a very serious type. He said he has never had a patient worry about him. Well, geesh, he's going to be working on me for 12+ hrs, I want him in his best shape! I think that is when we really 'connected'.
sherry: goodness, good luck with the house sale. I hope the timing works out for you.
I had a nce long walk today, good hot shower, nice clean clothes and feeling very good tonight. Yeah, still can't sleep. The melatonin did not work well, so I'll be asking PS for something on Wednesday.
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Nice pic nihahi. Is that 'your mountain'? is that you?
My FB profile shot is me and my mountain, at the middle of my triumphant mountain climb after my weight loss, just before BC diagnosis.
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Great picture Nihahi! How did you get that on our site?
Goldie- 2 micro surgeons is standard for free flaps. It is a very delicate surgery with the blood vessels etc. it the ole " two heads are better than one" theory.
I am spending a few days with my son and his wife before they leave for Seattle. I hope I don't cry in front of them. I now will have my two children on each coast. My heart is broken.
Trying to hold it together. -
Love the picture and the mountain, Holy Smokes - that is one heck of a beautiful sight!
Goldie - absolutely what Cherrie said 2 is a must for microsurgery! Your vascular system is too important!!!
Shechirple - after my surgery and when I found out how long it was, I too felt such compassion for my surgeons and concern about how long they had to stand and participate in fixing me!! Also thought they were worth every penny my insurance agreed to pay them (they don't balance bill - so I paid nothing, insurance paid) and truly thought insurance should have paid them more considering all the time and emails, phone calls, etc! 🙆 -
SheChriple -
I grilled my surgeon as well. For my last surgery, he was one day away from a trip to Columbia. I told him I hop he was packed, bus I didn't want him distracted by thinking of what he's going to bring on vacation. (He almost laughed). Yesterday I had my pre-op for Thursday's Diep. There will be two surgeons. I was asking about lunch breaks, and what they talk about whey're not talking about me. I asked my PS if he gets hungry, and his fellow interjected and said 'He doens't eat'. He's so focused on the task at hand that he doesn't think about food. Then the fellow told me that he himself LOVES to eat, and thinks about food all the time.
Then I talked to the Anaesthesiologist. He said that they number the risk factor of surgeries from 1-4, 4 being the mos risky. He said that I'm a one. And he said that although it is a long surgery, it is a superficial surgery and the length is because it is a micro-surgery and there's a lot to do. Then he said it was boring! Jim and I laughed at that, and he explained that it's a long slow steady dose of anaesthetic and there's not much to do, so he gets bored.
That thought has calmed me up immensely. This morning I woke up all twisted in knots and Jim said, 'Don't worry. Your surgery is boring'.
And here's some other fabulous news. On the floor of the hospital where I will be recovering, they have a pet board. Lots of photos of pets. Jim said he was goign to bring in a photo of Jed, and the nurse said that he could bring in the real thing! They have a pet therapy room where people can bring your pets! Last year they arranged to have someone's hosre transported to the street below so the patieint could look out the window and see him. Amazing.
Nihahi - What a beautiful photo. Hope you don't mind if I borrow what you wrote and use it as my mantra. 'I'm going to make it to my mountain'.
And even thought you didn't climb as high as you hoped - you're on your way up. Congratulations on coming so far.
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Nihahi, what a gorgeous photo! I so love the mountains, and when we moved from Colorado to California, I missed them terribly. California has its beauty, but its not like the Rockies. Sorry about the s---e word! I meant to say "stick," of course!
I saw the PS last week. He assures me he can make these uneven, lumpy girls symmetrical and smooth. Oddly enough, there are more issues with the prophylactic breast, with a couple of places of fat necrosis and general sagginess. He also had a look at the abdominal incision and said a couple of spots had opened a bit--he'd revise the scar, lipo my hips and more of my tummy during Stage II. C'mon, August!
Happy Saturday, everyone--Katy
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I am going in for my preop appt on Tuesday. Getting excited and nervous! Luckily the week between my preop and surgery I will be at Sea World so I won't have much time to fret. What questions should I ask my dr? Also- what will I need at home for my recovery? I am getting a lift recliner for when I get home (I will use it during the day and to sleep in), I have a little reacher/grabber thing to pick things up off the ground or high up, I have an abdominal binder from my hysterectomy (if I even need one), I also have some button down tops. anything else?
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Day after Stage 2 - Here's the skinny
Black Super Spanx from below my rib cage down to below my knees, with undies I look like Wonder Woman! For those that have to have the Spanx, the top is not comfortable so I put a thin layer of t-shirt material and it helped.
Normal to have the shakes afterwards because they also use water to flush away the fat, don't be scared by it. I have no shakes this a.m. I am bruised, but the worst is from the lipo, like Mohammad Ali beat up my hiney!
The new foobs look great, but hard. I am sure that the fat graft will soften up in time.
I have to sleep sitting up (equivalent to 3 pillows) for a week.
Doc says it is normal to leak blood (up to 1/2 cup) after SX, so wear old t-shirts after SX, or a blouse you don't care about.
Girls, they do their best work after Stage 2, it looks really good!
Hugs and love to all.
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