April 2013 Chemo Group

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  • CarolA5587
    CarolA5587 Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2013

    Thanks for the input on interviews. I was leaning in that direction but it's great to get some good advice from some wise women. :)

    Allie, I had my 3rd TC on Monday. While talking to my onc about the side effects I suffered with the Neulasta shot, I talked about the hives and how they had been so horrible in my hands. He got a look like a light bulb had gone off. He thinks the hives are a result of the shot. So we decided to forego that this time. If you'll Google Neulasta and hives, you'll see it's one that is mentioned often. I have had the hives a couple of times in my past, but I have never had them go to my hands like that.

    So far, I have been able to work this week. Waiting for the crash that seems to come in the next day or two. So happy for you that are finishing up! Can't wait to be there!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Carol, do you have an allergy to latex?

    I recall something about the needle having a latex thing...if allergic alert your doctor....I remember because my mom is allergic to latex, so when i read that I thought of her.

    Pat

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2013

    Is anyone else experiencing hot flashes? My pillow was soaking wet the other night. It's even happening during the day. I'm assuming it's "chemopause".

  • monkeymom
    monkeymom Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2013

    I was just going to post about the opposite...being freezing cold!! Ever since my BMX, I've been cold. It's gotten a lot worse since I shaved my head (I know we lose the majority of our body heat through our head and feet, but this is ridiculous). It's been in the 80s here and I have to wear a sweatshirt and socks in the house- we keep our house at 75! All the local ladies with breast cancer that I spend time with are all hot. At dinner the other night, all 11 of them were having hot flashes and I was cold! 

    But then again, I'm the one who is growing hair instead of losing it so maybe I'm just some chemo annomaly!!! 

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited June 2013

    I wake up most night a couple of time and think it's hot flashes.....also with so much water intake, usually have to go to the bathroom a couple of times a night...ugh....would LOVE to get 6 or 8 hours NON stop sleep....

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited June 2013

    Jen987 - When I went through natural menopause three years ago I NEVER had hot flashes like I am having now.  I like the term chemopause but hate the SE - what causes these? Does anyone know?  I seem to wake up every morning about 5 AM dripping wet which worries me the chemo isn't working. I keep thinking about one of the symptoms of lymphoma is night sweats and convinced I have yet another cancer but that's just me worrying about another worse case scenario.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited June 2013

    Hot flashes, yes!! I occasionally get them during the day but mostly at night. Many nights they wake me up every 1-2 hours. I have a pre-hot-flash thing too, kind of like increased anxiety/restlessness/irritability then seconds later, BOOM -- hot flash! Also they are way worse whenever I'm taking the steroids! (I'm assuming that means I'm in chemopause? After my 22-day-long period I haven't had another but I'm only on day 39 of my cycle so I suppose I could just be late...)

  • 6cats
    6cats Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2013

    hushcat -- My husband came with me to my first AC. My MO wanted him there in case I had an allergic reaction and I needed a ride home. I was able to drive myself (30 minutes) to and from each of my other AC treatments.

  • 6cats
    6cats Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2013

    Tiring day today. I got a call this morning from my MO -- wanting me to come in a day early because of my odd bug bites. After looking at them (and getting approved for my next chemo on Monday), she sent me off to see a dermatologist.

    Of interest to all... I had several sun/age spots that have gotten red, scabbed over, etc. The dermatologist said that sometimes pre-cancerous cells become "hot" during chemo, killing the pre-cancerous cells. Sounds like what others have heard also.

    My bug bites are being treated with prednisone cream -- He said that because my immune system is all messed up due to chemo, that I'm having unusual reactions to insect bites.

    After all of that my vehicle broke down... of course when DH came to help, he was able to drive it home with NO problems... He said he didn't do it on purpose!

    Oh well... I'm ready for bed early... so tired....

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited June 2013

    My husband went to my first AC treatment with me. Then I went to the rest of them by myself. I enjoyed the time alone. I never felt bad during the infusions. Everyone is different, though:)

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2013

    Kerri, I put a little apple cider vinegar in my water to help with thrush. It seems to help. Sorry you're dealing with that!



    Feel better soon!



    Katie

  • kobrien
    kobrien Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2013

    Thanks Katie! Ill give that a try.

    I have another question for anyone that maybe able to answer.

    I've developed a "rash" all over my upper chest, shoulders, neck and upper back. Slightly itchy, but looks like acne! I tend to get a little heat rash in these areas during the summer when I'm in the sun, but I've been staying out of the sun and its actually gotten worse all day long. Big very noticeable "pimples". Could this be from the chemo or steroids?

    I'm going to have tons of questions for you ladies since you are all so far ahead of me with chemo.

    Hope everyone has a great night 😃

    Kerri

  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited June 2013

    Thanks 6cats and Deb for your input on AC. Despite the fact that I'm getting poison pumped into my body I've also enjoyed the alone time from my chemo treatments. No husband, no kids, not even a cat trying to get my attention. I think I'll try the AC by myself. If it turns out I need help getting home my husband will come running. Thanks again for your answers.

  • Speedy4
    Speedy4 Member Posts: 136
    edited June 2013

    Kerri, I had that after my first treatment. It was awful! My MO put me on an antibiotic and it took care of it right away. It's definitely a SE of chemo or steroids. Thankfully I haven't had it since. Don't suffer, call your MO!
    ~Deirdre

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2013

    Hushcat, i was told to have someone to drop me off/pick me up from my chemo.  They don't want me driving in case the premeds made me tired (I had ativan with AC and now Benedryl with T).  DH has come to every one.  I have a dr appt with my MO prior to the chemo and he wants to be there for those.  DH often isn't able to sit with me during infusion (they have a limit for the infusion rooms and they are usually busy).  I told him he doesn't have to stay, but he sits in the waiting room and does work or plays on his iPad:)

    Had my first Taxol treatment yesterday.  So far I feel much better than the AC.  We'll see what happens in the next few days to come.  

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2013

    Not great PETscan news...on my initial scan there was a 'hot spot' in my liver.  Less than 1 cm lesion.  Due to the size and location they weren't able to get a biopsy.  They didn't want to open me up at that time to do an invasive procedure as it would have pushed chemo off and no one thought that would be wise. 

    Finished my 4 dose dense AC cycles a couple weeks ago and had another petscan earlier this week.  The spot in the liver is gone so the best educated guess is that it is/was cancer and the chemo took care of it.  Sigh!  So obviously bad in that they think it was cancer, but good that it's for the time being gone.  

    The downside is that things are still murky.  Without the initial biopsy they just cannot know for sure if it was cancer.  So I may have mets and be stage 4 or not.  Likely it is.  My MO still wants to treat my breast cancer aggressively as if  we can obtain a cure.  Repeat scan and MRI after my 4 Taxol cycles could change surgery and radiation options.  If the spot would show up again in my liver they will be more aggressive in getting an answer.  More than the normal amount of scans and stuff to follow.

    I was pretty much a mess yesterday, but am getting a grip today.  It certainly wasn't the news we wanted, but I've decided that I'm not going to live life feeling sorry for myself or not being as positive about things as I can.  I'm sure that could change as further diagnoses happen.  My kids graduate HS in 2, 6, and 10 years.  I think 10 years is not likely, but that is a darn good goal to have (realistic or not, we have no way of knowing right now).  

    Hope I'm not too much of a downer, but needed to share today.  Thank you!

  • kobrien
    kobrien Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2013

    Well- seems like every day is something new. I had Nulesta on Sunday- have been taking Claritin since last friday. This morning woke up with such excruciating bone pain everywhere- I couldn't even walk. I cannot begin to describe the pain- it's in my neck, arms,legs, low back, sternum and ribs. Took a left over Vicodin from my MX and that didn't even touch it. Called the MOs office-- yup, sounds like its from the Nulesta. They had me add 600 mg of ibuprofen every 6 hrs along with a Vicodin. Got it a bit under control- now starting to come back and it hasn't been the full 6 hrs yet. They also called me in a script for Atarax- an antihistamine, but don't want to take that in combo with the Vicodin- I'm home alone with my 14 yr old son who has a broken leg.

    All of these side effects that I'm getting are really discouraging me- I've only had 1 treatment!! I just don't know how I am going to be able to put myself through this again in 2 more weeks .

  • kobrien
    kobrien Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2013

    Oh and thank you Deirdre.. The acne rash is already looking better without intervention

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2013

    Daffy:  Sorry about the mixed news.  Sending good thoughts your way.

    Kobrian:  My worst bone pain is days 5&6, and yes I can relate.  So sorry.

    Chemo alone: My son went w/me the first time because benedryl knocks me out.  When I didn't have any allergic reactions (during infusion), they dropped the benedryl & I go by my self.  Like Hushkat, I like the quiet time.

    MonkeyMom:  Looks like we are in the minority.  I'm always cold.  My house is 78 and I wear long sleeves, a flannel sleep cap and my winter slippers.  I still have a throw quilt on the bottom of the bed for cold feet.

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2013

    Hushkat, I'm dose dense AC.  (I switch to T next week).  The only reason I've needed anyone with me for infusion was because I'm doing cold caps (still have my hair).  My infusion was only an hour total.  As long as you take your anti-naus meds, you can likely walk out of there under your own steam.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited June 2013

    Amy, I'm pretty sure the hot flashes are more likely chemopause than lymphoma. It's something about the changes in hormones that causes them, and like I said above, I think steroids makes them even worse for some reason. If anything it's probably a sign that chemo IS working, at least on the hormones! If it's lymphoma then why would it happen to over half of us going through chemo? (On another note, I'm glad I'm not the only one that jumps to the worst-case scenarios, yesterday I convinced myself that some very slight swelling in my neck was lymphoma! Maybe chemo side effects just happen to mimic lymphoma symptoms????)

    Kerri, I got the acne bumps too, I attribute it to the steroids, it was worst the first round (although second round I also had folliculitis on my scalp which was much worse but overall a similar rash). Hydrogren peroxide or white vinegar seemed to soothe & dry it out more quickly. And... you will get through the rest of the treatments. I seem to have had sooo many side effects too but I've made it through 3 rounds & have my last next week. Definitely Ativan is helping me through these last rounds because now I am a nervous wreck about the zillion side effects I had round 2 (which fortunately didn't happen with round 1 or 3 so I'm a bit calmer even without the Ativan!) 

    Daffy, I'm so sorry about your news, I can only imagine how I'd feel in your shoes. At least the chemo seems to be working if it was indeed mets... which hopefully means 10+ years might be realistic? You must be a basket case. HUGS and love to you.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited June 2013

    Random side note... I love having taste buds. I will never take them forgranted again. I cooked for perhaps the second time in 3 months?! Dinner was a massaged kale salad with chopped tomatoes, purple onions, red bell pepper, cucumber, avocado, corn, chives, and feta, dressed with olive oil, apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, and tons of minced garlic. It tasted amazing, my son & husband thought it was one of the best salads ever, and the best part was I COULD TASTE EVERY BIT OF IT. :) 

  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited June 2013

    So my headaches got way out of control. Could barely walk could not stand any kind of light or noise. So when I went for my pre chemo check up I get admitted to the hospital. Oh yea fever off and on tooooo! You got to love all of this. So I have be I Hospital since Monday.So now I'm at St.Peter's I had to get all new test. Chest xray.brain cat scan,brain mri,and another spinal tap! They are pretty sure it meningitis but want to rule out meningeal carcinomatosis. So this has been so fun. But today I can sit up,and I can read and type.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited June 2013

    Amy: http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/menopausal/facing/hot_flashes This explains what causes the hot flashes and chemo-induced menopause is one cause listed.

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited June 2013

    Indenial - thank you for the link. What confuses me is I went through memopause 3 years ago with very mild hot flashes. Since chemo I've started all over again.  That part I don't understand but at least I should stop worrying about other worse-case-scenerios.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited June 2013

    Well I guess chemo messes with your horomones even more? Plus the steroids can cause hot flashes. And are you taking femara during chemo too?? I think anything that messes with your hormones could cause them. Try not to panic, if it's that common it's probably a "normal" side effect & not something worse (saying this as The Queen of Panic!) 

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2013

    Anne11595 - I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope they can figure out what it is so you can feel better soon. Hugs to you.

  • PamelaKay
    PamelaKay Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2013

    Anne and Daffyc, my thoughts are with you. Here's something to add some hope to your day. They are constantly doing research on new cancer drugs. I mentioned before the young man I know who just started working for a cancer research company looking for new targeted therapies. While he's just starting out, he's very smart and motivated: a good person to have on your team. 

    Hushcat, I'm on the opposite end: just finishing AC (last round next week) and starting Taxol/herceptin. For me, I had relatively few problems with the AC, and am more worried about the TH coming up (especially the possibilities of allergic reaction).  For the last two infusions, I brought a bottle of iced water. I held it and sipped it through the chemo infusions. I haven't had as much mouth soreness or loss of taste since I started doing that. Can't say for certain if that's a direct cause/effect, but I'll continue doing it just in case. No nail problems so far either.

    I had my DH at the first AC, but just went on my own for the others. My premeds were in the IV. They (or something else) made me sleepy during the treatment, but I was able to drive home with no problem. I had steroids in the premeds, which kept me from being sleepy as well. This would be a good question to ask your MO or the chemo nurses: will your premeds be sedating or not? The chemo nurses know exactly what you will be getting and how it will affect you; they are a great resource. 

    I plan to have someone drive me to and from my first TH at least. For me, it's a long all-day of infusion, so I'm going to be cautious, at least for the first treatment. 

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2013

    OH Anne, that is a rough go of things.  Hopefully they figure things out very soon and you continue to feel better and better.  

    {{{HUGS}}}

  • PamelaKay
    PamelaKay Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2013

    Today when I went in for my blood work the onco nurse told me that my MO is changing practices. What that means for me is that she is not seeing patients for the next month while she does so, and I will have to see a “substitute” oncologist for the next two treatments, then switch back to my original MO at a different treatment center for my infusions. Very bad time to have to do so, as I will be starting my new drugs for the second of those two chemos, so all the questions I have about it will have to be asked of the substitute MO, about whom I know almost nothing.

    I’ll be meeting this new MO 15 minutes prior to my next infusion on Tuesday. I’ve actually met this person (a retired MO) once briefly in a non-medical situation. Unfortunately, during our brief interaction she did not impress me as someone I would want for my doctor, at least personality-wise. My impression of her was that she is a my-way-or-the-highway type; exactly the kind of person I will not do well with. It seems the only other options I have are switching to another MO in the same practice (and probably they are booked and I would still have to see the substitute until I could get on their schedule) or trying to switch to an entirely different practice (which would probably delay treatment). No good options as far as I can see.

    I will try to focus on just getting through the chemo, but it sure is upsetting and disappointing to have this happen. I'm trying to put this in perspective as not the worst thing that could happen. Still, I chose my oncologist because I felt she was a good fit for the kind of MD I work well with. Now I'm stuck with a mystery MO at an important point in treatment. Plus, I'm now so angry with my regular MO (not exactly rational, but that's where I'm at at the moment) for abandoning me to a stranger, I can't even imagine seeing her for treatment in July and feeling good about it. (I'm feeling a rather teenagerish desire to punish her by not telling her any of my SE or asking any questions.) Hoping this will pass by then.

    Thanks for hearing the rant. Any help with perspectivizing this appreciated. Will also accept sympathy and righteous indignation. 

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