Chemo May 2013

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  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    I also love Patty's list. Made me laugh out loud and we all need to do some of that:):)

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited June 2013

    I went to the Dr yesterday to have my in between chemo treatments blood work done.  My white count was REALLY low, if it doesn't come up enough before my next treatment (14th) then they will have me do neulasta.  Not too crazy about that because I had really bad joint pain and muscle aches just from the chemo, now they might want to add bone pain.  Ugh! 

    I take two steroids the day before treatment, one the day of and two the day after.

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    Teresa....can they give you anything for the joint pain? Advil worked for me but I know it does not for everyone. I wondered why everyone did not automatically get the shot. It was not presented as an option for me. Someone previously posted about another shot they can give you but I think it is spread out over a course of a few days...May not be convenient. If I remember correctly no joint pain was involved. will see if I can find the post. It may be worth asking.

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited June 2013

    I used Tylenol this last time, the aches got worse as the day went on and made it hard to sleep.  They said if I need the neulasta shot they can prescribe me something for the pain so I can manage it better. 

  • Miasara
    Miasara Member Posts: 17
    edited June 2013

    Okiecountry, hoping your tests will go well. I'll be thinking of you.

    Debwarrior, im so happy your pet scan was good.

    Robin, sorry you had to go to ER. Glad you are ok.

    Pat, your son's comment made me cry. I have 2 boys, 9 &7. Not sure how'll they react.

    Still scheduled for tomorrow. 1st infusion and I've been waiting forever.

    Hope you ladies have a good day.

    Mia

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited June 2013

    Does each chemo treatment get better/worse/the same/varies...? Just curious if I can prepar myself each time in a better way.

    When your hair falls out does it hurt? My scalp and hair hurt. I'm on day 10. I hear day 14 is typically when it happens if it does. How does it come out? In clumps? I'm clueless.

    Has anyone had stomach issues after chemo in that you feel gassy/crampy/almost like hunger pains and then you go to the bathroom ALL the time. My bum bum hurts!

    And I never thought water could taste bad!

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited June 2013

    Oh, and my mouth is killing me. I have a sore throat (no fever), I had to buy a babies toothbrush for my teeth and gums.

    And I have either restless legs syndrome or something is going on. My legs ache so badly especially when going to bed. I toss and turn and then am up around 5am since I can't sleep anylonger.

    Any suggestions?

  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited June 2013

    I took Tylenol for my achy legs, they also said I could take ibuprofin.  My legs hurts worse the longer the day went on so by the time I was ready for bed it was BAD!

    Water tasted bad for me too.  I add just a little bit of juice to my water to give it a little bit of flavor.  Made it easier to get my 2 liters in a day. 

  • MichelleRN78
    MichelleRN78 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2013

    mcgis- I kept a journal of my symptoms the first treatment and then when I had my second I compared them.  I would say my symptoms were similar but not exactly the same.  I had mouth issues with my first chemo but not the second.  Also I think I was more tired the second time around.  I think everytime will be a little different.  Are you getting neulasta?  I had bone/hip pain with the first injection but not the second.

    As far as hair loss I would run my hands through my hair and it would come out.  I wouldn't say it was in clumps.  My scalp did hurt.  I tried to "hold onto" my hair at first I would only wash it every couple days because that is when most of it fell out.  I eventually buzzed it short because it was such a mess to clean up.  Someone recommended using a sticky lint roller to get the loose hairs off the head and that worked really good.  :)

    I had terrible diarrhea after my first chemo it hurt so bad.  I took lomotil (Immodium) and that worked wonders.

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2013

    ItisWhatitis-it seems like a downer anytime I check the SEs on any of the treatments ahead of me. Can only research a little at a time and that's almost too much. Although knowledge is important. Re tamoxifen, I was freaking out a bit too because 1. I didnt like the SEs and 2. FOR 5 yrs. Heard of a couple of people who were on it and their main SE was hot flashes. So I am hoping mine will be minimal too. Now for the eyelashes, that is something that is probably coming up soon. I just have this feeling my eyelashes and eyebrows won't grow back.

    Robin-Glad your lungs and heart look good. It's all pretty overwhelmingly sometimes.

    Patty-I'd say day 5 the red spot appeared. Today is day 7. It's not itchy. It's red and warm to the touch, just a little painful and my hand is ever so slightly swallon. It started off migrating to different areas on the back of my hand and lower arm. It settled on the area where the iv went in. It's grown a bit today and now have one that has settled on the side of my arm. My onc prescribed antibiotics.

    Elkatho-Hope it continues to go o.k. for you this go around. It's great that your hubby has a fishing tournament. Sound like fun. I wish him well with it.

    Teresa-In re to the neulasta, just in case you didn't know, taking 24 hr clariton for several days has helped many people with bone pain. You can take advil also. If you still have severe pain, there is another option for the next go around. A few days after treatment your white cell count would be determined. If low a shot is given. Each day for a few days your white cell count is determined, if you need a shot that day, then it is given.

    Mcgis-In re to mouthsores. 1 cup water w/ 1 tsp baking soda and salt.swich 30 seconds and spit. Several times a day. I also read swiching with benadryl. But if it's really bad, maybe you can be prescribed something. Good luck with it.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    So.... Found a place in town that does eyelashes.... $70 bucks! Haha imgonna do it, cuz if nothing else is the same, I want my face to look the same! I think they last about 6 weeks... We'll see.... My tears may weaken the glue! LOL

    I've lost about half of my lashes..... Just thinning, but I can see the difference in how it changes the way I look....

    Tempted to go extra long and lush..., but gonna get some that look like ME! I'm gonna do it this weekend! I'll let u know how it works out



    Some of u might be thinking.... Why not do it myself. I tried one Halloween to put on fake lashes..... DID NOT TURN OUT WELL! Trust me! (I'm glad there's no YouTube vids of that day!)



    Happy thoughts all!

    Lorrie

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2013

    Itiswhatitis...Loosing eyelashes has been a big concern for me, more than my hair on my head. Looking forward to hear about the process.

  • rockermom66
    rockermom66 Member Posts: 69
    edited June 2013

    Real quick about the lash extensions, don't get them! They attach to your own lashes and if they are going to come out so are the new ones. Any reputable lash extensionist will not put them on anyone that is going to lose their lashes. You're better off with the glue-on strips. You can get nice ones, they don't have to be drugstore brands. Go to your makeup counter at the department store.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited June 2013

    Hi ladies



    Wondering if anyone else is dealing with major sinus problems? I am dealing with post nasal drip which is making me cough til I am gagging. Apparently it is keeping whole house awake. Dr says claritin...already take everyday. Tried nyquil no luck. This is driving me crazy and lack of sleep is wearing me down!



    Appreciate all suggestions.



    Lisa

  • rockermom66
    rockermom66 Member Posts: 69
    edited June 2013

    I have had runny, snotty and bloody nose pretty much since I started chemo. I took medicine but nothing really helps. The best thing I have done is to flush my sinuses with a neti pot every morning in the shower. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2013

    Lisa-have you tried a saline rinse either by netti pot or spray? The salt water drys the passages for a while.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Lisa, sorry to hear about the sinuses. Generally I suffer from them...this is the first time I am not....go figure!

    Maybe consider going to an ENT (ear, nose and throat). They are the specialists and should be able to do/suggest something to help you out.



    Netti pot is definitely something to consider. It is "interesting" to use the first few times. Once you get the hang of it though it much easier to use..



    Lorrie, did you do the look good feel better where they taught you how to do the eyeliner with the liquid liner and ""smudge it" so you could pretend you have lashes? Not the same thing for sure, but it's a thought.



    I picture me putting on eyelashes and looking like snuffilupogus (the Sesame Street character). Lol



    Pat

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    Anyone get massages while doing chemo?? How about acupuncture? Thanks!!!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    I used a humidifier in my bedroom at night and during nap times to help with the sinuses.  I found that the chemo dries out your sinuses so bad that they bleed, and everything in you is like glue.  I was able to blow it out better after a few nights with the humidifier.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    Pat..

    I didn't go to the class.. but have looked up the tips for being creative with the eye makeup.... :)

     I just really want to have lashes.

    Rockermom...

    I'm not going for extensions.. would be a waste of money as the lashes are falling out. LOL... I'd go back and say.. "they only lasted a few days! I want my money back!"

    I am going to have her put fake ones on. A gal my sister works with went to her when she was in chemo for BC (Small world!) and said they look completely natural, last quite a while, but can be spendy. I figure, the money I'm saving on hair products can go to making my face look normal! haha

    Sorry about the cough Ipc... I felt like my cough was due to thick saliva with my mouth issues... I'm not having any sinus issues and it's totally alergy season here in OR, especially with the nice weather we've been having.

    I hope everyone is have the best day possible!!

    Happy Thoughts!

    Lorrie

  • MichelleRN78
    MichelleRN78 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2013

    Lorrie there is a class next week.  Are you interested in going?  It's Monday at the Hospital.

  • rockermom66
    rockermom66 Member Posts: 69
    edited June 2013

    ItIsWhatItIs2013 - Ok, I wasn't sure what you were up to! The strips should be ok. I think I will be looking at getting some too when the time comes :)
    I know lash extensions can be WAY more expensive! My client this morning had a fresh set on, it looks so pretty.

  • MichelleRN78
    MichelleRN78 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2013

    Lorrie- could you share the name of the place you are getting the eyelashes?  I might be interested.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    Well....

    So it turns out the gal thought I WAS talking about extension... Had an apt set for tomorrow morning. Then she texted me this evening asking for a pic of my eyes to better prepare for the "extensions" ... I told her, "no... Fake lashes to replace the ones that are falling out"....

    Long story (& 20 texts later haha) short. I'm better off going to Sallys beauty to buy them.. She suggested getting the 'whispies' or 'Demi whispies' by Ardell. They are the most natural looking. She also said to get clear or black waterproof glue. The lashes cost about $6/set and can re-use them for up to a month, but doesn't suggest showering or sleeping with them.....

    Oh bother! Why can't something as simple of this work out? I don't care! I'm going to go to Sallys tomorrow! I can't bear so many changes to how my body feels & now to how I look! I still want to look like Lorrie, dammit! Hair gone, fine! But my face is gonna be ME!



    Michelle,

    Thanks, but I think I'll pass on the class... Kathy (I'm sure you know her from the C Institute at the hospital) visited me at my first chemo and suggested it as well as support groups.... It's just really not my cup-o-tea... Kathy is an AMAZING lady though! Are you going or have you been to the one here?



  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    Oh.. Michelle... If you're interested, in the future, her name is Rebecca at Center of Attention Salon right next to Shutterbug near Cee's candy downtown... She did tell me of a really good serum... Called LiLash.. That I'll be getting when this is all over. She says a coworker had next to no lashes and after 2 months has full beautiful lashes... :)



    Hope every had a good day today!

    Happy thoughts,

    Lorrie

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    Another thing... My Onc office called me the day after my last treatment to let me know that they wer referring me to get that picc.... No one has called. I'll call the Onc office on Monday but I told my hubby (now that I'm feeling better again) maybe I'll try another IV try... Haha funny how quickly we forget how horrible things can be!

    No, I'll call to get the picc in.



    FYI.. I'd say that more than 75% of my stubble is gone.... Leaving white! White.... Splotches all over my head! I'm so glad I buzzed before seeing the hair come out like this...



    At the bottom of the back of my head/neckline, I'm getting an itchy rash. It may be from stubble rubbing the wrong way under my hats? But my sweetie is drilling a well for a guy that runs a "med dispensary" and brought home some grape seed oil with THC... I rubbed it on & OMG........ No more itch! Aaaaagh!



    Considering a medicinal med for my bad days.

    My sweetie is a smoker, but since back in my college days I dont care for it.... I may try it next round after talking to so many that it has helped. I told my boss about it & he says, " if you need to smoke dope to feel better, do it!"

    I love my boss! Hahahaha



    Haha we'll see if I do it or not. My sweetie brought home a thing... "bong?" that should help me from coughing a lung up.... OMG..... Life really deals us a variety of things .... doesn't it? If I decide to do it after next round, I'll let u know if it helps?!!!



    Happy thoughts!

    Lorrie

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited June 2013

    If I tell my girls about it, I'll probably see them mor often ..... If their teenage years are any indication! Haha

  • Skagitphoenix
    Skagitphoenix Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2013

    mcgis: I too am having a lot of scalp pain! I thought I was the only one! It is extremely painful & I don't know what would help. I'm about 16 days out from my first chemo treatment. I still have a full head of hair (although I don't think its gonna last). I got it cut short, but it sure isn't helping with the pain. I also have a very sore nose & throat. Mostly I have been thankful that the side effects haven't been worse. I was told by my two oncologists that with the super strong cocktail of chemo they have me on that my hair would fall out within days & that I would have severe joint pain, nausea, etc. So, far, so good. My blood count has been borderline, but they haven't ordered anything special yet. Oh, I do get the neulasta shot after the chemo, so that is probably helping some. Most of my issues actually seem to come from the actual treatments. They have a hard time accessing my port & I seem to be allergic to everything! The first treatment caused me to have some sort of allergic reaction. I got really hot, sweaty & turned bright red and became pretty much immobile. It was pretty scary, but everyone reacted fast & it turned out okay. They had to turn the IV into a super slow drip, so I was there for over 9 hours. Unfortunately I've been reacting to everything, so I get to take lots of steroids & benadryl - which then causes me to not sleep for days, feel very anxious, and jumpy, yet exhausted at the same time.

    I haven't been allowed to return to work. When I asked my doctors about it; they laughed & told me I had a great sense of humor. I wasn't meaning to be funny. I have 3 kids to feed, house payment, etc. But my job isn't the sort of thing that can really be done part-time. And I have treatments every week and will continue to do so for a year. Plus I'm looking at several more surgeries. So, I'm not really sure what to do. It's not like I qualify for unemployment or disablity or anything. I try real hard not to worry about it.

    Luckily I work for the government, so they can't fire me - at least not right now, so I still have medical benefits.

    Take care my bc friends!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited June 2013

    Lorrie



    I think my kids were actually hoping I would smoke dope! Lol they assure me they can obtain some for me! Such sweet children I raised!



    Lisa

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited June 2013

    Thanks for all the sinus suggestions. I have tried saline spray will have to try the neti pot.



    Lisa

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