Can people survive wtih no emotional support?
I've been having a very difficult time the last few days. My niece/goddaughter graduated from High School on Sunday and becasue the ceremony was outside, I held out hope that she would ask me to be there - she is 8mths older than my oldest and practically lived at my house when she was little, she came on every family vacation we ever had becasue her parents took seperate vacations and if they took the kids on one they went to stay at a friends house down the cape. I used to take her out every half day before I started working more and we'd go to lunch and get manicures. Her mother, sister and father said some horrible things to me when I was diagnosed ( I was disgusting, using my cancer for attention, wasn't the only person to ever have cancer, etc) and with the help of a therapist I asked them if they couldn't support me then they needed to leave my life. During the time all of this went down, no one gave me any emotional support in dealing with everything - I live with my husband and my mother lives with us and neither of them supported me or stuck up for me or confronted any of them. After pretty much suffering a nervouse breakdown because of them I did the Survivor Walk for the Relay for Life and it inspired me to hold them accountable for their actions - I did this by posting on Facebook all of their emails and letters. After this my niece decided she had to choose sides and cut me out because I was wrong - never held her family accountable for their cruelness. My extend family - cousins - have also found me in the wrong and supported my sister and her family along with my other sister who was actually by my side through every dr's appointment.
The only person I've ever gotten any emotional support from has been my Dad and he died in May of 2010. My husband was not there for me emotionally then nor was he there emotionally for me when I was diagnosed - I was at work when I found out and called him at work then went home expecting him to come home. I called him an hour later to see where he was and he hadn't left work yet because he was so upset. for years I've had to be the rock for him and for my mother - my sister and her family have basically abandoned my mother - yet the minute she hears from them I have to hear all about it. My mother went to the graduation on Sunday - my husband knew I was devastated by not being there and my mother came home started talking about it so I left thinking he'd say something - I came back and she started again which killed me and left me a mess. He had said nothing to her. He of course has promised to be there for me next time, but I think I've given him too many next times - I'm now becoming physically ill and can't stop crying - even at work. He is a wonderful man and father, he does laundry, makes lunches, and would do anything I asked - no of that makes up for the pain I feel emotionally. I'm considering moving out since I no longer want to be around him or my mother and I don't want the kids to loose their home. Thank God for the kids because I can tell you I would not be here ......
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We are terribly sorry for what you have, and are, going through. Perhaps talking with a therapist could be helpful. Marriage therapy could be another option. Have you considered speaking directly with your family about everything that has happened? Maybe starting with your sister. It sounds like an open discussion could be helpful, along with some apologies on all sides.
This sounds like a very stressful situation, and would be healthiest for you to try to find resolution, or closure.
We are thinking of you!!
The Mods -
I actually have an appointment with a therapist on Thursday. As far as family I've tried and with my sister it's too late, there is nothing she could say or do for me to want her back in my life.
Thanks for your support...
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Kayce,
I am so sorry what you are going through.
I have similar problems.
My twin has cut me off...and to be honest, I am now glad she is out of my life, as it is "all about her". My dad passed last year, he would be behind me 100%.
My mom has a lot of physical problems and some mental. She lives two hours away. She does not acknowledge my disease. Don't know if it is just denial. I won't discuss it with her, there is no point. I am "stuck" with my husband at home, and things are status quo. I do all the work, he does essentially nothing.
Please know you are not alone. (Not that those words are what you want to hear)
I wish you all the best.
Pat -
Survivng without emotional support is hard. I am not sure how it feels to be living in the same house with people who do not seem to support you. I am wondering if you husband knows what you wanted him to do? I know many times, I have thought why didn't so-and-so say this or that? To me, it seemed the obvious thing to say, but your husband may have just been oblivious to what you wanted or needed. I think you should be clear with him about what you need in terms of support. Most men I know are clueless. Do not hint! Say what you mean and what you need!
I am alone, never married, and no kids. My friends and colleagues abandoned me with the dx and the subsequent disability. My family is long distance. My sister believes that I got all of the attention that she deserved and is actually jealous of my cancer. Oddly enough, I didn't get any extra attention with the cancer dx. My niece was the only one that came over to see me during any of my treatments and she was only over here for one of the surgeries. She had to leave as soon as I came out of recovery. I have had numerous complications and some were a direct result of me having to do things for myself with no help at all. Trust me just washing dishes post-op was horrific!
Can you survive without help? I am having my 6 yr anniversary Saturday. So yes, you can survive. It isn't easy, but I don't think any life threatening medical issue is easy.. with or without help.
C
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Pat - I hate to hear that others are in the same boat, but it does help to know I'm not alone...
C - I've told my husband over and over what I need, this last time he said he knew what he should have done the minute I walked away in tears the second time. My mom has never been one to stand up for others, that as always my dad. She tries her best and it sounds selfish but it's not enough, it causes more pain that anything else..
I do think I can survive alone, I'm just not sure I can survive with them.
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Kayce, Yes you can survive without emotional support, but should you have to NO. As the moderators said, a therapist and then marriage counseling. It is great that your husband does much around the house, but personnally I would rather the dishes pile up in the sink and he sit withme and listen, watch a movie, whatever. The dishes will be there later. Never say never with regard to your sisters, that is one thinng I have learned on this journey. Your niece, even tho she just graduated is still a child in so many ways. It would be very difficult for her to make a decision against her parents at this point. Send her a card, let her know you are proud of her and leave the door open for sometime in the future. You just don't know. Your mother, is jsut your mother, if she has never been able to stand up for herslf or anyone else, it is unlikley she will now. You might just have to accpet her for who she is, know you won't get everything you need from her, she is probably doing the best she can. I htink we all often want more from those around us, I try to rememeber, they are probably doing the best they can, as am I, (I often miss the mark woth others!). FRIENDS< FRIENDS FRIENDS, don't know what I would have done without them. I hope you have a close one or two. It has made a world of difference for me.
Be well and know you have support here
Nel
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Kayce, Thanks for your bravery in posting all this and for opening the door on this topic.
I am convinced we can and will survive under our emotionally stressful circumstances. It helped me a lot that when I was very sick I saw Sharon Osborne's biography. When she was in the depths of chemo the rest of her life was completely turned upside down. Ozzy was on drugs and physically and emotionally abusive. Her children were engaged in active addiction and not there for her. And so went the same for the rest of her network. She even had Ozzy put in jail for abuse. Yet she celebrated her 10-year cancerversary. Strange what helps us! But that helped me. I lost my lifetime best friend - we spoke nearly every day - often multiple times a day for over 25 years. I had to walk away from the friendship as she was cruelly blaming me for me cancer and suggesting I not take treatment of any kind because SHE didn't believe in it. She believes in dying or holistic health - not even surgery. That coupled with other things we were going through caused me to walk away with no contact from my lifetime "sister." Also, during my treatment my dad passed away - ended up in the hospital the day after I told my mom about my diagnosis. I had told him first. One look at me with no hair and he was so sick he couldn't speak. It literally sparked the end of his life. The list goes on and on. My boyfriend has serious post-traumatic stress from activy military duty and growing up with a very physically and mentally abusive father who preys on weakness. He took these same mental behaviors and started turning on me. While he never abused me physically, it caused me massive emotional distress throughout my recovery. My mom also fell into Alzheimer's after my diagnosis. She had still been living independently with my dad and after he passed, she went downhill quickly and is now in an Alzheimer's facility. I watched my beloved family homestead divided up and sold to pay my mom's bills at the facility. And the list goes on. I truly did not want to live at many points in the past 15-months. I hung on and stayed with it because it is the kind of person I am. I just can't let anyone down that way. I can't let myself down that way. I hung on just in case somehow things might turn out OK. I further suffered greatly concerned all the stress would make it impossible for me to heal. I was under ridiculous daily stress as I am also the sole breadwinner in my relationship. But, I decided that this is my journey and it is what it is. I am making the best of it. I do believe I would be in a much better place all around without all these stressful things. But here I am. I too am helped by taking positive steps. I ran in a 5k for The Lynn Cancer Institute - where I am being treated. I showed up all alone and did it. I will keep taking positive steps despite what else is going on. I can say that cancer has truly helped me find my voice. When I feel it, I say it. I don't hold it in - even if my boyfriend is being controlling, mean, threatening to leave...whatever. I'm not afraid of any of that. I do get counseling at the cancer center and it definitely has helped. So has exercise, diet, and doing my best at work. I won't mess up my life anymore than it already is. I'm taking it back!
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Great post Maria - keep staying positive and taking your life back....YOU ARE WORTH IT!!!
Kayce, although I dont feel I'm in your position, my husband and kids try to be very supportive even though they dont understand anything I go through and it is through these online forums that I get any satisfaction from complaining, venting, talking, expressing, listening, etc. etc.
Even though I understand that if someone has never had cancer, they just somehow cant understand what we go through, what surprises me the most is that in general people think, BREAST CANCER??????? ah no BIGGIE. It makes me crazy. So many people think its an easy ride. And I do realize that some have it easier than others, and other cancers can be harder to treat, but anyone having to go thru surgery, especial mastectomy, and/or chemo and/or RADS suffers physically and emotionally.
Many of my friends and family tell me they will be supportive but I have to ask for help and they will be there, to me a phone call or a card would mean so much more than physical help, but people dont get it i think.
I am trying very hard to except people for who they are and trying to understand they just dont get it, but it is difficult sometimes. I am sending positive thoughts your way and hope things turn around for you.
hugs!!!!!!!!!
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Nel, I like your attitude and outlook on life. Many (most) would tell me to walk away from my boyfriend of 5 years. I almost have many times. But, they don't understand what it is like to love someone with legitimate post-traumatic stress syndrome. When he is "in it", I really really hate it. But most of the time he is holding my hand at chemo, helping me talk to my doctors, looking out for alternative care ideas for me, etc. Unfortunately, this other side comes out too. Maybe there will be a day where it's too much and I walk away. Right now I take the good with the bad knowing that I too have plenty of issues I bring to the table.
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Nel - I do want to work on it with my husband and I know how horrible he feels when he let me down emotionally, just so hard to have it happen every time. He's so amazing with everything else but like you said I'd rather live in a mess than not get the support. I'm hoping the therapist can help me figure it all out.
Maria - I would tell people that don't understand, "should he leave me becuase I have cancer" he has a true medical condition and as long as he's working on it that's all that matters.
Worrywart - I got alot of "well it's not stage IV" or "oh it's only Stage II" - made me crazy like I didn't deserve any support or help because I wasn't "sick" enough
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hang in there kayce!!!!!!!!!!
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Had my first appointment with my therapist on Thursday and I absolutely love her! She was recommended by a friend at work and she is perfect for me. I've gone to therapy once before in my early 20's but only went twice because I didn't like the therapist. I spoke a few times with the therapist at my cancer center and she helped me with a few things, but I've never actually "gone" to therapy. I'm not a crier and the minute she said "so what brings you here?" I started bawling like a baby! I am very hopeful that she will help me sort through everything that has happend the past few years with my cancer, my dad dying and the hurtfulness from my sister and her family.
Thank you all so much for your support - I really love each one of you and pull from your strength and am so happy I have all of you in my life!
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Kayce, I've been wondering how you're doing and if you're learning anything helpful you can do in your situation.
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Maria - I'm doing wonderful, thank you so much for asking! I ended up going to therapy and what a difference. My husband and I are doing wonderful and came to an understanding on what we both need. With my mother I was able to learn that she does the best she can and sadly I think had shutdown a long time ago to avoid being hurt, so I'm actually very grateful for the support she does give me and it means so much more now.
Therapy also taught me to let go of my sisters and family members who hurt me and made me realize that I'm not dealing with normal people - I kept telling my therapist I couldn't wrap my head around some of their responses and actions and she would constantly remind me I'm not dealing with normal people. Unfortunately came to the realization that they've been treating me badly my whole life - it took my cancer to finally be strong enough to stop it. My life is now full of only healthy relationships and with normal healthy people and I have never been so happy. I also am no longer beating myself up for not allowing them into my life - getting permission from a professional really changes your life!
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With great difficulty. How are you doing today? We have much in common. -
bluepalace, why not tell us about it if you feel able. I think Kayce will be fine now--that was almost a year ago and I drew great hope from that last post on this thread.
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