Severe radiation burns to the breast
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You can get it online, but I wasnt impressed.
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You can get it online, but I wasnt impressed.
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My severe burns werent to my breast but under my arm. It was so severe, I had to miss two weeks of radiation. Silver sulfadine cleared it up, but it took two weeks.
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Are you all airing your breasts for a minimum of an hour a day? Also, I was given glaxal cream and instructed to apply it 2 - 3 x /day. Consequently, no burns. But almost had a problem AFTER rad finished. So don't let up on airing and creaming.
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Question for GOOGLEALLPHARMA: what is A&D ointment? Also, thank you so much for sharing and best wishes to your mom.
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Are you healed now, Kateri?
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Hi All,
I have severe burns under my arm also. The skin is raw. I've been washing as usual in the shower with Dove. I have Silverdene which I use on the raw bits and Biafine which I use on the rest of the burns. The nurse told me I would be able to reuse the Mepilex a couple of times but I can't because the wound keeps oozing green/yellow discharge. When does the discharge stop and when does the healing start? Am I applying too much Silverdene? HELP! -
Kimby, I hope you found some solutions and have very much improved. I have been away from the forum for a couple of months.
KISS MY FACE SOAP is an olive based soap which the doctor recommended for me, particularly as I have a lot of allergies.
Last year I began experiencing LATE radiation burns: moist spongy dermititus. SSD did not seem to be helping and I was told to stop using it - possibly out of fear of my allergies. I was then prescribed steroid ointment and eventually started healing. (Steroids can't be taken too long.) I know it will take months and probably years for me to heal from the LATE radiation effects. However, currently, the LATE radiation is again active.
Thanks for alerting me to BIAFINE. I looked it up on the Internet and will ask my surgical oncologist about using it.
Also, thanks to you, I looked up MEPILEX. I'm wondering if you had a large enough size. I know it is expensive and if my surgical oncologist agrees to my using it, I will need a large size.
I have been alerted to COLOPLAST and will also ask about using it. I understand it comes in rolls/sheets and is used for several difficult skin upon skin areas - not only for the anal area. Here is a helpful but graphic site I found
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Thanks, RunswithScissors. I was beginning to heal but am currently experiencing a resurgence of blistring.
>>>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY TIPS ON HOW TO KEEP DRESSINGS IN PLACE AND KEEP THEM MOIST without the use of adhesives? I am extremely allergic to adhesives. I am also allergic to latex.
THANKS
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Good Grief! Not more stuff-I want to bury my head and boobs in the sand!! I am doing chemo and I am blistered inside and outside. My esophagus is blistered, my boobs have blisters and weeping sores, my crotch is blistered and I have not even reached radiation yet. I am due for 35 rad treatments and BIG THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. This is so important because it gives me informed questions to ask my RAD DOC and preparation for more stuff. Sending you gentle hugs and asking that you (we) all be healed quickly. LOL, SV
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Gel Sheets worked wonders for me. It was about week 4 weeks into treatment when it seems like overnight I developed a painful wound about 3-4 inches long under the breast. It looked like a cut not really a burn, but it was a burn that was more painful than surgery. (the line was where the breast and chest meet) My Rad doc immediately discontinued my full breast treatment I skipped one day to heal and then we started boosts a few days early. Additionally I too had a reaction to tape. RADIADRES gel sheets are a GOD send. The sheets are self sticking- I had no reaction (I developed a rash to the tape too and had to be marked every day for the boosts).
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AIRING: Just letting folks know that exposing my breast to air as much as possible appears to be very very helpful - as in most helpful. Not using any medicine. Will continue to gently wash with KissMyFace soap (available via dermatologist) and take care to continue to second wash clothes without soap and place breathable rayon material layer as a buffer even with other breathable clothing.
DIAPER RASH: As far as "diaper rash" between breasts and torso (actually anyplace where folds of skin occurr and make comfy environment for "diaper rash"): cornstarch helps but when that is insufficient, wash/dry and use over the counter antifungal cream of Clotrimazole 1% for powerful relief (thank you Dr. W). Even a tiny amount of the cream is amazingly effective! I found it in the athlete's foot section of the pharmacy.
LOL to everyone.
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HI ALL
Just been reading a few of your posts, Ive just finished chemo 6x FEC very yucky stuff and i start rads in around 4 weeks, so I'm very interested on how your all getting along, in your opinion is rads a walk in the park compared to chemo.??
THANKS LADIES
JOJO
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I see that no one has posted to this thread in a long time, so hopefully not too many people suffer from severe radiation burn. Mine didn't present until the penultimate day of my WBR and so I had my final treatment. But I now am going on Day 9 of post-rads severe burn/moist desquamation covering my entire axilla. My entire armpit is red and raw. I am so allergic to so many wound treatments that I can't tell yet whether this one is working (RO said it might take two weeks). If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate it. My RO instructions were to cleanse the area with a vinegar/water solution and to apply Glucan Pro 3000. Thanks.
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Maybe I had severe radiation burns. I also developed blisters that popped, exposing raw skin. They prescribed me silvadene cream and it probably healed the blisters in 10 days I think and I made sure to put aquaphor on the rest of the burnt skin and cover it up with clean gauze and this thing called Adaptic.
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Unfortunately, I'm allergic to sulfa drugs and so cannot use the cream everyone is usually prescribed. I wonder if I'm also allergic to the Glucan? I'm still having significant yucky discharge--not blisters but skin breakdown in liquid form. Thanks--and I sincerely hope that others don't have to endure this.
ETA: Of course as luck would have it, my RO is out of town this week.
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Ugh, today is my last radiation treatment, 33 in all. Yes I have severe burns from radiation. I would categorize it as 2nd degree burns. I am experiencing bleeding under the breast area. I was given hydrocodone for the pain and silvadene for the burns. Are they helping? Just a little bit. I'm extremely uncomfortable, but what the heck, I have to get through it right?
thanks,
Min
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Thanks for sharing, ladies. I have a full list of remedies that my Mom will bring to her appointment tomorrow.
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Dear Cindy, a close friend of mine mentioned using Evoskin creams and sprays to help with radiation burns.... she finds them very effective and has been recomending them to all patients in her support group. I hope it helps you too...
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I had 33 treatments of which the last 5 were the "BOOST" I have severe burns where that was given. I have had to go back to the doctor a few times. She gave me silvidine (spelling ?) of which i had been using, but everything was sticking to my clothes and skin was coming off and then bleeding. So now I later on the cream and put on non-advise cloths, use a soak 3 times a day. Hopefully this will help. So far, it is still extremely raw, hurting. I am using all of this times a day, even while at work. Hope it helps soon.
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Patjerry, by now you are probably doing great, but thought I'd post something as I'm going through this right now. My RO also gave me non-stick burn pads to put on the site after it is heavily coated with Silvadene. Had to leave on for 24 hours to start. Then shower (carefully) and reapply. After 4 days I can see it is healing nicely. The pain was unbearable - had to get pain meds to get through this past week. She said since I get Herceptin for HER2 every week it makes the side effects even worse. Not sure if that is the case, since I've never heard that but I sure did have more of a "burn" than expected.
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The thread, "Adhesive TAPE - help need to find non-allergic", has had some posts that might help some folks at this thread.
P.S. Even though I am pretty allergic to a lot of things, at the time of my radiation treatments, I did not experience much burning. Truly unexpected by everyone. Also, I chose not to have hormone or chemo.
SIX = 6 years later = I broke out with what is called LATE Radiation EFFECTS. My effects ended up being pretty severe. Ask about late radiation effects just to be more fully informed. I share this Not to scare anyone but late radiation effects was not a topic much if included in the info at the time.
>>> Note well: NOT everyone experiences late radiation effects. Furthermore, not everyone who experiences late radiation effects to the same degree. In fact, I am told that late radiation effects are now receiving more attention simply because more of us are surviving longer.
>>> For FUN sharing: I was fortunate enough to have an insurance plan under my employer which covered hyperbaric oxygen treatments. This is the same treatment available for divers who come up too fast and surgical wounds that do not respond to treatment - our group had quite a few diabetic patients; etc. Did you know there are separate facilities for large and small animals needing the treatment! Although chambers are available for individuals, I felt fortunate to be able to undergo the treatments in a multi-patient hyperbaric oxygen chamber set up. Our chamber looked like a big liquid container as can be seen on trains or highways. It could seat 12, including the medical staff. It had a couple of portholes like an undersea vehicle. Ha! Ha! We looked liked astronauts with only their headgear on. Our group, including staff, experienced comraderie. I was also fortunate to be basically otherwise healthy so that I was able to do the bus/train trips as I do not have a car.
Best wishes to everyone, from a former "Bubblehead"!
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I had radiation recall burns after taxotere. RO prescribed air (as in no bra or bandage), silver sulfadene and aloe vera gel without alcohol. Took a long time to heal but finally did.
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I am soon to start radiation and I sure appreciate all that you have all shared. I will hopefully be better prepared!! I have kept a note of all the products that all of you have tried and will be ready to try all of them!! Thanks again for sharing of your experiences!!!
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Cindy,
Radiation burns may not heal if there are hardened layers of radiated tissue below the skin's surface. You may need to see a doctor to remove the radiated tissue and to promote healing of the wound. Once the radiated tissue is removed the wound should begin to close (on its own without sutures/stitches). I recommend that you see a specialist who treats this unique type of wound, perhaps someone affiliated with a medical school and/or teaching institution. I would definitely call the doctor's office prior to your scheduled visit to determine whether they have the people/expertise to treat this type of wound.
I wish you well.
Barbara
The wounds you describe may be painful. A bag of ice may offer temporary relief of pain and reduce any inflammation that may be associated with the wound.
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Have just completed 30 ( 25/5 boosts) and had a bad time 2 weeks ago with the nip* swollen to double size and looked like a huge red button. Rather mortifying, but the hardest part was no sleep for 3 nights from the pain, ( this was on a weekend so only one zap in that time) and it started to peel and bleed. Nurse gave me the thin transparent Mepitel after applying I used the usual aloe ( right from the plant) which goes through the holes so you don't have to remove the dressing and it helped right away, so I had a much better 4th day, then next day got Mepilex, the padded version, hubby calls them pasties...and they are fabulous...Don't bother getting it for areas on which they won't stick... I found the undearm and chest area rejected them...maybe because I was getting harder flesh there, not sure... or maybe was losing too much real skin to hold them in place
Mind you I could have taped those on, but I got some new allergies to some suture tape and bandages since my surgery...I have sensitive skin and allergies, so didnt use any cream but Lubraderm then Glaxa-base the whole therapy, but wonder if it wouldn't have been wise to have told me to start using it a long time before rads as well? They didn't tell me my back would also burn and it is the place that itches the most. Funny that you should mention vinegar was recommended as I remembered when I was young I was told to put it on a sunburn...the acetic acid has numbing properties, I guess? Anyway, I used it first soaked on a per towel to soothe, then aloe directly from the plant, then Glaxal-base cream....and now put nothing where there is exposed peel, I keep the mepilex on that area...I hope if the manufacturers see we recommend it they will lower their prices, as I too was told it is "expensive"...hello....Maybe it would be more widely used if it wasn't.
Cream-wise we seem to have different skin, many of us, so using what works best for our skin-type tolerance is best advice there...Thanks for the info re: late effects, they told me it could get worse but I guess they shy away from scaring us as not all get reactions, some don't even burn at all...I really didn't burn as badly as some do, though, I was told, but I did get some early blisters and issues perhaps due to sensitive skin. I have a very high pain threshold though, so I know it was bad for ME.
Hope all are healing well....all the best J_J_
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Hi all,
My mother has breast cancer, and she did radiation about a year and a half ago, but she still has two large burns from the radiation till today, and they cause terrible burning and pain. She tried many ointments and creams like dermazin, lignocaine, betnovate ... and they all didn't help treat the burn, just relieving the pain. Does anyone know what can help her because when the doctors see it they don't suggest any useful treatment? Sometimes it really hurts her to the extent that she cannot sleep comfortably (because on of them is under her arm, so the pain is felt around the burn - causing pain in the back close to the burn). Please help. Thank you. -
she should go to a dermatologist. When I was badly burned the drs (derms) Iwork for came up with creams that the RO didn't know about. They will need to see the spots before they can prescribe anything.
Good luck!!!!
Babs -
I had 5 weeks of radiation before I started to burn, and then the burning started and got worse and worse over the next 5 days. I had been using Calendula cream after every session. I also took a spray bottle filled with water to every session and sprayed it on the radiated area to cool it down as immediately as possible. Long story short, I made the mistake of downplaying the slight chafing in my armpit midway through the 5th week.
On Friday Jan 3, 2014, I had a radiation session that completed 5 out of 6 weeks. Over the following two days, the weekend of Jan 4 & 5, the burning began. My right armpit was so badly burned -- not blistered but sort of a dark reddish grayish purplish color -- that on Sunday the 5th I sent my radiation oncologist a picture of it and expressed my doubt about radiation on that Monday. Her nurse asked me to come in anyway, so that they could advise me on next steps. That day she confirmed that there would be an interruption in the schedule and that we would plan to start again on Monday the 13th. She handed me some Vaseline (PETROLEUM jelly - UGH!) soaked gauze patches and a couple of tube tops. She said to get some Silvadene cream and apply it 2-3 times a day. Then put the vaseline-soaked gauze on at night and the tube top over it. Wash the vaseline off each morning so that it would not prevent the Silvadene from penetrating the skin. All of this was seemingly good advice, but it simply didn't work. The burn got worse on Monday, even worse on Tuesday, and by Wednesday it peaked. And, try to imagine removing gobs of vaseline from a large burn. Rub soap on it? Scrub it with a cloth? Run hot water on it? You choose the method of torture. I quickly abandoned that course and began to chart my own.
A reasonably thorough (although pain-wracked) search on the internet on Tuesday convinced me that no one had published how they cracked the code on this problem and that, tragically, some people live in agony with it for weeks. What I needed to do first was to figure out how to stop the intermittent, searing pain that I felt in my armpit (does anything hurt worse than a burn?). I finally took a flashlight and lit up my armpit, moving my arm in every direction. I realized that the un-slathered skin on my arm was dry enough that it was sticking to the burned skin and pulling some of it off every time I moved my arm. So I slathered my under arm with Calendula Cream but I also needed a way to keep from automatically lowering my arm. I took a tennis ball and put it inside the tube top, about 5-6 inches below my armpit. I kept it there night and day for two days. I also took a homeopathic remedy called Boiron's Cantharis 30 (vitamin stores carry it) to start the healing from the inside. By Thursday morning I had stopped wincing and hissing with pain (you know, the involuntary intake of breath) and when I saw my naturopath that day, he recommended a light coating of a mixture of Manuca honey and Alba's Un-Petroleum Jelly (a non-petroleum jelly). I bought both at Whole Foods. All in all, I regained my sanity over the next 3 days and after a total of two weeks off, completed my last week of radiation without further burning.I hope this helps someone!!
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Hi everyone, My name is Eva.
I'm going to be starting radiation therapy for my left breast in next couple weeks. The posts are scary. What should I do and not do as far
as before and after each treatment to try and minimize the burns? I'd appreciate any suggestions.
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