DIEP 2013

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  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited May 2013

    Dvygirl, glad that you now know what you are dealing with. Best wishes to you!

    LSMB4, hopefully your DIEP dreams will come true. Keep us posted!

    Lmo45, good luck on starting chemo next Thursday. It is not pleasant, but doable.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited May 2013

    dyvgrl....sending you hugs. (gently)....Yes, so glad you made the decision to go beyond a lumpx....some higher power defo was guiding you towards the right choice for you. Tough news to get, but now you and your docs know what has to be done to fight back. Hang in there!

    goldie...I think you're spot on about the loss of "fullness" on your upper chest making you look thinner than you are. Body contours are so subtle, we don't notice them until something is drastically altered. Getting those contours back is where the skill of a good PS comes into play.

    shechirple.....home is the best medicine....enjoy, rest, heal.

    So....anyone have an idea of where to send the bail money for Movie??????

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Dvygrl, I went into a lumpectomy thinking I had a tiny tic-tac of a malignancy and a few days later got the whole story of my stage 3A diagnosis.  It was tough, and I had to wrap my head around all the steps I would need to take to save my life.  Big-guns chemo, mastectomy, rads, more chemo...and FINALLY, reconstruction!  And I was scared, depressed, sad, weepy--but resolved to march through it with humor, openness and as much dignity as possible. 

    And here I am, pretty much on the other side of that enormous speed bump.  You'll get there before you know it.  In the meantime, I pray that your experience will be like mine, in which you're enveloped with love and friendship and caring. 

    Work on your mental delete button.  When your mind wants to wander into dark and brooding thoughts, DELETE! 

    One day at a time.  That's all you need to tackle.  Blessings...

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited May 2013

    Thanks everyone for the positive thoughts. I couldn't get through this without all of you! I can only take one day at a time, and what comes, comes. I'll deal with whatever God throws me. I know I will come out on the other side a better wiser person for it. Still sucks sometimes tho!!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited May 2013

    dvygrl....so sorry to hear your news.  I will be praying for the best outcome for you, and I know you will find a way to push through this and come out the otherside stronger, and better than ever.  In the meantime enjoy the good days, rest on the days you need to, and remember all these beyond awesome women are here to support you through it all. Maybe the doctor will have some better news tomorrow.  

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    I love ColdWater Creek.

    I'm making the 5th TATA's reunion in Vegas thsi fall, so I truly hope to be a good place by late August, early Sept to do some retail therapy prior to the trip.  I can't spend ALL my time in Vegas shopping.

    End of day.  I got in a couple of 2-3 hr naps, so some good sleep time.  I'm feeling better every day.  Tomorrow is going to be an even better day!

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited May 2013

    Dyvgrl, your in my prayers!

    MartyJ, thanks for the advice. I'm not going to be wearing underwire anytime soon. As soon as tried it on it was bothering me. And I guess there's really no reason for me to wear underwire when the girls are living in the north region now😄. But I do want to find a regular bra that fits good and would make me feel a little more feminine.

    Goldie, because I went from a DD to a C all of my friends have told me I look thinner, even though I only lost 2 lbs since surgery.

    I'm so tired today. Last night we had my daughter's kindergarten graduation and then I went for a 3 mile walk with ankle weights and dumb bells. I can feel it today!!!

    Maybe I can sneak in a nap today.

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited May 2013

    Selizabeth - ❤the 'hit delete ' thought!



    Dyvgrl - absolutely sucks but I imagine you are one tough cookie so very sure you will do it! Will keep you in my prayers as well! And so glad you went beyond the lumpectomy!!!



    Kuka and Goldie - DH and everyone I saw that knew me before bmx said the same to me when they first saw me - that I had lost weight and I couldn't figure it out either- but now I think it was the same thing- too early to be the weight I lost by trying but couldn't just be the failed flap either, so I bet it was the upper chest thing too!





  • heavenschild
    heavenschild Member Posts: 212
    edited May 2013

    Thanks to all for letting me vent, it somehow makes it feel better!  I love this thread.

    SheChirple - I didn't have quite the nightmare you are having in the hospital, but close!  I woke up in ICU and literally couldn't move.  The pain meds had worn off and I didn't know where the nurses' call button was.  They had a morphine pump for me, but I had just woken up and didn't even know about it!  I laid there for the longest time and then eventually starting to call out for help with a post-intubated voice.  Finally after about 15 minutes of weakly crying out for help my nurse came halfway in the room and told me that she would be back to check on me - she didn't even come up to the bed and see what I needed.  I gave it another 10 minutes and then resumed crying out for help.  Some nurses started to gather in the doorway, mind you none of them came in to see what was going on because I wasn't their patient.  Finally, my nurse comes back and I let her have it for letting a patient lie there without pain meds after a major surgery and not even checking on me!   

    It was so hot that they put ice packs on my head and upper shoulders.  Unfortunately, the ice packs broke and the ice slid down my back and front.  They couldn't move me, doctor's orders, so I was sitting there in a soggy bed with ice melting in uncomfortable places.  All my drains were tangled up and it looked like Medusa.  I kept thinking, this is the ER?  Where you are supposed to get wonderful care? 

    Thankfully you and I are the only one with horror stories about the hospital.  BTW, I work for the State Farm attorneys in Glendale (just a secretary)! 

    Countdown for Stage 2 - it is June 7th.  I'm nervous and cleaning everything, including the cats, who were not fans of a bath! 

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Heaven's Child. so sorry you had a hard time too.  There is nothing anyone can understand while you are going through it. Its that helpless feeling.  What am I going to do?

     I know we put it behind us, eventually, I was just so livid at the time.

    How do you feel about your outcome, so far, knowing that you have Stage 2 very very soon?

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Here I sit on my patootie, stuck all day on jury duty.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited May 2013

    sbeliz......oh bother! That's not gonna help you keep on top of the paperwork is it! Necessary part of citizenship, though. Do tell.....what shoes and outfit does a potential juror wear to court? :)

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited May 2013

    Heavenschild, that happened to you in ICU? Wow! Why are these people working there if they have so little interest in their patients? No wonder people are so sceptical/apprehensive of hospitals. I've had a similar experience years ago at a fancy hospital where I had my bunions removed. The day after surgery I kept asking for pain medication over and over. It was promised, but I got none, zippo, zero that whole day. I have a high pain tolerance level, but my feet were literally throbbing, could not walk anywhere to get help, and the pain was up there. That night I discharged myself from that hospital, and went home with DH who took way better care of me than those useless nurses. I just thank my lucky stars for the team I had after DIEP. They were absolutely amazing, caring, professional - could not have asked for better.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Nihahi, just since you asked, I'm wearing ankle-length slim fitting denim pants (with my compression panty underneath!), a white camisole, and a white chiffon blouse on top of it.  Brown and tan sandals from THINK! (a brand that fits like Birkenstocks, but better).  My rainbow jeweled pendant, along with the rainbow jeweled earrings my husby gave me as "ear candy" when I was bald. 

    This is California, where "formal" means you're wearing shoes.  Underwear is optional. 

    Can you tell I'm bored?

    My whole hospital experience for the DIEP was incredible.  The nurses were compassionate and friendly, I had my pain pump leash in my hand before I even left the recovery room, and anything I asked for (although it wasn't much) appeared by magic.  I did have a little baby student nurse come in to give me a shot of Lovenox, apparently with strict instructions to administer it in the subcutaneous tissue of the abdomen.  Well, you know what our abdomens look like when we get out of surgery.  I was mummied in bandages.  I had to convince him that the fat of my upper thigh was just as good, be brave, and stick it in there!  Poor guy, I was trying hard to not laugh. 

    I'm hoping to lose another ten or fifteen pounds and get down to my goal weight before Stage II, which I'll probably try to schedule in August.  Down another half pound this morning.  YAY!  But...all the pretty new girl clothes I bought better fit later!

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited May 2013

    You sound like you're really "styling" sb....! As active as you already are....what the heck is your plan to lose that much weight????? You'll be invisible by August!

    I'm bored too. Had to drive my daughter into town this morning for one of her psych appointments, just now killing time until she's done. I've promised her we'll go check out the new target store that's JUST opened. (whine....I'd rather be hiking, biking, anything but just waiting).

  • kuka21174923
    kuka21174923 Member Posts: 427
    edited May 2013

    Katy, I want to know what you're

    going to be doing to loose weight. I've been walking everyday and trying to not eat sweets, but I haven't lost anything. I haven't gained either, but it would be nice to loose 15 lbs.

    My stay at the hospital was also very positive. All the nurses were great and always had everything I needed.

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited May 2013

    Yes, sbelizabeth, pray tell! I'm on the weight wagon too. Not really overweight, but would like to lose about 10 lbs as a 'buffer'. Are you on Tamoxifen? It has been almost impossibe to lose since I started taking that pill in August. Not putting on weight, but have to watch my diet very carefully, and exercise my butt off to stay at the same weight, otherwise it starts creeping up. Now after DIEP I'm pretty much just sitting on the couch - will have to stop eating - lol. Don't want to walk alone because of bear activity in our area, so have to wait for DH to go with me. Frustrating to say the least. Maybe I should just drive to the gym and walk on the treadmill there.

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited May 2013

    Liefie - treadmill or mall walking?  Gotta get moving.  I will trade you my alligators for your bears, not.

    I bet that 90% of us want to lose a few pounds.  I use My Fitness Pal to track weight, measurements and food intake.  Yes, it may sound a bit anal, but keeping track helps.  I also use Endomondo to track my walks and activities.  Moves on my iphone tracks my daily movements (steps).  It can be really interesting to find out just how much movement you are actually getting - the first day I used Moves I logged a whopping 800 steps.  Trying to pick that up.  All apps are free.

    On another note, I found a PT that is also has Pilates PT certification.  She uses the equipment to help her patients and she is located at a local hospital.  My first appointment with her is on Monday.  Tuesday I see the Personal Trainer.  I have 9 weeks to get myself in shape for 2b.  

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Great chat about weight loss and exercise!  I'm past menopause, so it's femara for me.  The only side effect I noticed was some arthritis-like pain in my hands and hips, but exercise helps a lot.

    My body is an (almost) perfect calorie-grabbing machine.  My genetic background is mostly German, and I come from a long line of Brunhilda shapes.  For me, the ONLY way I can hope to control my weight is to track my food intake and exercise.  I use a free internet site, Livestrong, for food journaling and try especially to keep carbs under control (my personal poison). And of course, I try to get in a heart-pumping bike ride at least four or five days a week.  Even with this, I'm at least twenty pounds over what the BMI charts say I should weigh.  Yeah, I know about muscle weighing more than fat, but believe me, I have plenty of fat.  At the same time...I WILL NOT spend the rest of my life denying every creme brulee that comes my way!

    Jerry and I were out on the bikes yesterday, on our favorite trail, and a big sign had been posted that said, "proceed with caution, recent bear sightings."  Bears!  In relatively metropolitan So Cal!  When I see a sign warning about alligators, I'm taking up the treadmill.

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited May 2013

    I am getting closer to my surgery date and I have more questions! Has anyone been able to just have the hospital use your port for iv/anesthesia? I figure I have to deal with this dang thing so I may as well make it as worthwhile as possible!

    Also wondering about clothing- after the drains are gone, are you guys wearing normal clothes? I am having to buy new swimwear as well as some new summer clothes for vacation- and I am thinking that they won't be getting any more use after surgery on the 19th of June.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited May 2013

    Being in Alaska, never really thought about Bears being a problem anywhere but here! I'm not a huge fan of hiking on too many out of the city trails as of late, too many bear encounters last year and none of them ended well. Talked to the radiation oncologist today and he suggested a workout program at the hospital as part of rehab. I went down to the gym to speak to the gal who handles lymph edema issues and they have a nice setup going on so I'm gonna check on it to see how much I can utilize and if insurance will pay. I have to say I'm really impressed with the Cancer Center at Providence. You really don't think AK would be the center of medical technology, but this place is state of the art and the people have just been outstanding to work with. There are a TON of programs available for support. Literally out of all of the people involved in my care, the only person I can complain about is the recovery nurse. Man was she horrible!!! Honestly, I think they must hoard the worst nurses in recovery at every hospital. Oh, the patient is doped up, they'll never know!! Ugh! But, my oncs are great, my surgeons are great, and I really feel I made the right choice by staying here for care. Bravo Providence!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited May 2013

    kuka, you probably did lose some weight since your surgery, but the fluid retention in your abdomen, and around you mastectomy sight will take a while to go down. So even though you limbs, and face might appear thinner, the scale is picking up your fluid retention from swelling. That is just my theory. I could be wrong.  I remember after my hysterectomy two years ago (and the was only laporscopic) I had what they call swelly belly for almost 6 months. One day the swelling was gone and I realized my tummy was flatter, and my jeans fit better. Thinner, fatter, what's the difference? I just want everybody to be cancer free, and have great tata's!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Damiana9, funny you should bring up the port thing.  I insisted on using my port for my mx last year, but I had to talk fast and hard, and know the details of my own port.  Unlike the newer style ports (mine was the commonly-used Power Port), the older-style port didn't move fluid very fast and most anesthesiologists didn't want to use them in case they needed to get lots of fluid into the patient quickly.  I knew the mL/hr my Power Port would infuse, and finally convinced them to use it.

    I kept it until last month's DIEP, and thought about asking to use it again, but decided against it.  I was ready to get it out.  During the DIEP surgery they removed it from underneath, so no new incision.  Weeks before the surgery, though, when I was still pondering keeping it, I did ask my surgeon about the possibility of using it for the DIEP.  She thought they'd really turn me down this time.  Much longer surgery, more complex, more chance of the need for fluids, and with the longer length of the port's tubing, when a drug is injected into it, it takes more time to reach the vascular system and take effect.

    I haven't ventured into a swimsuit yet, but all my other clothes fit fine.  Even a little big, since the belly is gone (except for some post-op swelling) and I lost a little weight during recovery.  I don't know if your PS recommends compression--mine did not--but I'm wearing compression panties for comfort and they seem to help with the tummy swelling issue. 

    But when the drains were in, I wore a muumuu that scared my husband and the dogs!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited May 2013

    Dyvgrl, I took an Alaskan cruise a few years ago and fell in love with the place.  My husby and I rented bicycles for the day and pedaled all over the place.  I'd never seen forget-me-not flowers before--they're so lovely!  Then we went to the Alaskan Brewery and drank lots of beer.

    And jury duty drags on and on and on...I could use a beer right about now.

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited May 2013

    Elizabeth- since you are not wearing compression bras are you wearing regular bras? I have a power port also. I think I will try to be very persuasive about them using it but at least you do offer up good reasons as to why they would not.

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited May 2013

    Sbelizabeth,

    Don't you know you're supposed to say, "well if he got arrested, he MUST be guilty, right??" Lol. Not a fan of losing my time and money on some scumbag drug dealer or wife beater. Guess it's the system we have to work within so... Hope you can keep your phone handy! I'll have a beer for you ;)

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    StElizabeth, just pop open a beer, sure fire way to be dismissed!

  • heavenschild
    heavenschild Member Posts: 212
    edited May 2013

    Daimania9: Post DIEP - I look really good in clothes, and went down two sizes to a 10. After lipo, I'll probably be a large 8/small 10. I am a *D* on the left and *C* on the right and right side looks a little hamburg bun(ish). I think the PS's did a wonderful job after looking at other websites where docs post their pics. My PSs put my abdominal scar very low, which actually made me have more of an hour glass figure.



    Sbelizebeth - post DIEP I wore clothes that Omar the Tentmaker would have made! LOL After stage 2 I promised I was going to buy myself a girlie dress, although I won't wear the 5" high hooker heels that my husband loves to go with it!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited June 2013

    Damiana, my PS said I could wear regular bras at my 2-week check, and I've been weing them since then.  No underwires, though, which I've always hated. 

    Home from jury duty!  200 people sitting around all day, not one of us called for service! 

  • Catie2013
    Catie2013 Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2013

    Sb - at least you had us there to 'talk' to!

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