taxotere side effects
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MsW2012 - Thanks for the info on the Mio, I was wondering about that stuff. I am like you and do not really like the taste of the artificial stuff. I do not like Kool-aid anymore either, and do not like lemonade or tea, I can handle the orange Gatorade so I do drink that sometimes. Carbonated stuff sometimes upsets my stomach when I am on Xeloda which is every other week so I guess I may just have to stick to plain old water or the gatorade. I just thought maybe the Mio would be a good thing but if it has all of the artificial stuff in it I am not crazy about that either. I know my onc has asked how I was doing with eating and I have let him know it sometimes is not going well, he was fine with me eating just the PB, he said it is protein and if that is what I could handle then do that. He keeps a close eye on the weight but it will not hurt me to lose another 10 pounds, I know he does not want me to lose while doing this but has not said much about it and I know he would if it became a major concern. I just love my onc, have had him for 20 years and would not switch for anything in the world, unless of course he retires and I have no choice. How have you been doing? Are the radiation burns healing and are you feeling good? Hope all is going well. Let me know how you are doing. Hugs to you.
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Hi Jeanieb. That must be such a wonderful feeling, having a doctor you trust for such a long time. I have one like that, my primary care. Had him for probably 20 years or more.
Anyway I was the same way about gaining or losing weight - we always seem to be ok with losing, but now is not the time, for sure! I didn't gain on purpose, but between the lack of exercise and the comfort-eating I ended up gaining about 10 pounds during chemo. It's all back down to normal now, almost three months later.
My skin is healing great! I think the plastic surgeon will be happily surprised to see how well it held up. There was that one scary day when the skin broke down right after the office closed, but by the afternoon of the next day it was already better, just by leaving it open to the air all that time. I'm doing great. My energy is back to maybe 75%!
I still think the boost days missed the mark, treating the wrong area of skin, but I will wait and see what the surgeon says when I see him next month. Worst case scenario, I'll have to have a few days more of radiation to the right spot. I'm not going to dwell on that right now.
Hugs to you too!
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MsW2012 - I am glad to hear your skin is healing well and glad to hear you have about 75% of your energy level. It certainly makes a person feel so much better that is for sure. I hope the surgeon visit goes well and that everything hit its mark and you do not have to do any more radiation, of course like you said, that is not the worst thing in the world but it would be nice to be done for a while. Good to hear from you that things are going well. Keep me updated on how things progress. Hugs and a happy dance for you
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thanks Jean, can't stand gatorade...propel is it.....
water and anything I put in it makes me sick...
hang in there and will check in later.
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Hi Ladies,
I haven't posted in awhile this last treatment kicked my rear... My chest is sore I have a little hacky cough.. I guess it's the Taxotere hack. I hate to complain because I am done with treatment but I sure didn't bounce back this time..
Jeanie- Is your next treatment next Thursday?
Blondie- The only way I could get water down was by putting lemon in it.. It still taste awful to me. I hope you are doing ok?
I think about you all often..
Everyone have a wonderful Mother's Day!
Carla
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Carla - Yes next Thursday is my next treatment. I have to say this time was not quite as bad as the one before, at least I only ran a low grade temp a couple of days instead of a week so that is a good thing. Thursday will be my 3rd one for this round and then we will scan June 4 or 5, so that on June 6 I can find out the results and probably do another 3 rounds. That is the plan anyway but we all know those plans can change in a heart beat so I am hopeful for this plan to work like it did the last time. I am sorry to hear it kicked your rear so hard this time and I do know what you mean about the cough, I do not like it when that starts. I am hoping I do not have to contend with that. Hope you are feeling better everyday, even though it is your last one I know it will take a while before you are 100%. When I finished my last one on December 20 it took me until the end of January or first part of February before I felt some difference, and was really feeling good when I started it again April 4. Happy Mothers Day to everyone! Hope you all have a great weekend.
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sorry Car are you any better....
I had my typical 2 days after chemo yesterday, talked myself through it...hang in there...Happy Mother's Day Weekend!!!
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to the site and I'm hoping I can get some answers/advice.
My mom was diagnosed with ILC on 2/15.
She is supposed to start chemo on the 29th and I'm so scared for her. I've read a lot of your comments and suggestions to ease side effects, what to watch for, etc.
I'm concerned because I live with my mom and work in a dental office. I am often in contact with germs on a daily basis. Just yesterday a patient came in with hepatitis. Do you recommend me taking a shower before going anywhere around my mom? I work in the front office, but the back office touches patient's charts with gloves, I touch the charts...you get where I'm going.
Any advice?
Thank you!
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Hi and welcome, Chelsea. I'm sure some of the nurses in the group will respond soon but I wanted to at least say hello. From my perspective, I'd say the best thing you can do right now is start getting support. There are support groups for cancer patient caregivers and families. Start with American Cancer Society or ask your mom's oncologist. Let your friends know what's going on. Having someone to talk to makes all the difference! And coming here to this forum is great too!
About the germs, you probably protect yourself on the job with gloves, etc. You may already be taking the right precautions. Try not to worry too much. Maybe ask the dentist about keeping germs from following you home.
Good luck and again, welcome to the group. -Elizabeth
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Hi Chelsea, I am also a Dental Assistant and my Oncologist said no working during Chemo in fact he wants me to wait before I go back, I was done with treatment about 3 weeks ago. As far as you bringing home germs to your mom, as long as you glove and mask up it should be fine. You know the routine wash your hands.. I would recommend taking off your scrubs as soon as you get home and showering is a great idea.
You have come to the right place to ask questions and for support.
Welcome,
Carla
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Good morning! I hope everyone is managing all right this week. Things have slowed down since going down to Herceptin-only. I still have to figure out what I will do about the boost radiation that went to the wrong area, but more urgently I want to find out if there is anything to do for this joint pain. It was mild and infrequent before, but now it seems to be getting worse almost by day. I am so wobbly first thing in the morning, I have to walk around a while before I can head downstairs. The onc said it could be from Herceptin or even after-effect from Taxotere, but we didn't get to what can be done for it. If it is similar to arthritis, then I'm thinking glucosamine would help? Anybody else have this problem? Thanks!
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I have the same thing going on with my legs. I am finally feeling like myself but my legs ache, mine feels like muscle pain. Sore stiffness like I ran 10 miles. My oncologist says it's the Taxotere, movement is supposed to help. I use Arnica cream at night and first thing in the morining, you can get it a any health food store, I get mine at Sprouts. It helps. Also, Alpha Lipoic Acid 200 mg a day.. I'm thinking you might be right about the Glucosamine it sure couldn't hurt.
I would think the Arinca would help even if yours is caused by the Herceptin.
Keep me posted...
Jeanie, Blondie how are you two?? You've been quiet.
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MsW2012 - I started glucosamine about a month ago, it doesn't seem to be doing much for me. I myself am wondering if the Herceptin might be responsible for things seeming to be getting worse over time re: joints, my MO is saying it may be tamoxifen but I notice you aren't on tamoxifen. I was given a prescription for gabapentin which I haven't started taking yet, not liking what I read re: side effects but may start it this evening as I another Herceptin this afternoon. Sending hugs
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Ladies, my oncologist told me no glucosamine while on chemo, so maybe just check with your MO, as I know each one has different feelings about supplements. I know my MO warned me that taxotere causes bone pain-boy she wasnt kidding! She gave me morphine plls, but I found they didn't help any more than Tylenol extra strength, so I took those. I am 3 weeks past final chemo and am just starting to feel better. I'm actually able to do 15 minutes on treadmill- which is an accomplishment for me considering I would get out of breath from just bending over! It does get better ( with a little push
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Hi ladies! Thank you for the suggestions. Glad to see you continue to be pro-active, getting answers to your questions. I started looking into arthritis remedies, even though I really don't know if this kind of joint pain is similar. The effects certainly are. I read that Omega 3's (fish oil) have good results, "lubricating" the joints. I had stopped mine a couple of weeks before because I was burping up a kind of fishiness that I didn't like. But I went back on it a few days ago and already the joint pain is better. Could be mind over matter, but I really think it's the fish oil.
We are all different, experiencing effects from different causes, different drugs, so it's great to have options to try. Slv58, I also push myself to exercise. Making slow but steady progress! I am up to 15 minutes at level 2 on my elliptical machine, plus walking whenever I can, usually about 45 minutes at a time. My onc also said exercise was crucial for joint health. I'm sure it helps in the mind-over-matter thing too, lifts the spirits. Stay strong! Our efforts do make a difference!
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car well that explains the cramping and the hurting of the legs....taxotere...the poison....have all of those symptoms thanks for sharing it....I am fine, it is my week off, the SE continue but whatever.....thanks for asking.
hey Ms. how r u?
Siv....3 weeks, that is be here quickly, so excited for you.
me don't exercise, get out of breath quickly...and tired....
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Hi all, I just wanted to post an update of where I am physically after completing 8 rounds of TAC from September 2012 - January 2013. I'ts been almost 5 full months since my last treatment, and I'm feeling pretty good. I had lingering muscle stiffness and some numbness in my legs and feet for several weeks after chemo, but that has since gone away, as has the swelling in my legs and ankles. I lost just about all of my eyelashes (had about 3 total left!) and eyebrows and they are all grown back in, they are just shorter now. I'm hoping with time they'll grow back to their previous length. My hair is coming in but veeeerrryy slowly. I only have maybe a little more than 1/4 inch all around, and it's gray and curly. (Though, at 44, my previously dyed-blonde hair was probably mostly gray anyway!) So I plan to be wearing my wig for many more months, since I'm not a short hair person. I had toenail issues, my left big toenail turned purple and stopped growing. It's buckled up and is still not doing anything, I keep waiting for it to fall off but nothing. So finally I just painted it, it's too hot here to go without flip-flops! I'll probably try to see a podiatrist at some point, but I doubt there is anything they can do. I think it might take a year+ to change.
As for your taste buds, fatigue, and the general nasty feeling of chemo, that should all subside fairly quickly. I had my taste back within 2-3 weeks and was eating almost normally again. Just be careful when going back to your usual foods, especially if they are acidic, since your stomach lining has been affected. I was so happy to eat pizza again! But I do take an antacid before, just to be safe.
Also, I didn't get a lot of activity throughout treatment, though I was working when I could. But now that it's over, I've noticed that exercise is really helping! Walk when you can. It really will keep you healthy.
Chemo sucks, but you WILL get through it and be happy on the other side. Remember that it is killing those bad cells and giving you your life to live for years to come. Good luck to all of you!
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Carla - Somehow I managed to delete this site from my favorites and I would get on, look at my favorites and would think, hmm, no one is posting on the Taxotere website, well tonight I looked and it was not on my favorites anywhere so I had to go hunting for it and now I have added it again,
, sometimes I wonder about myself. At my last appointment on May 16, my tumor markers had gone up again and that was after my 3rd round of Tax, so he increased it a little to see if that would help. The PA said that sometimes it can take 3 treatments before the markers go down and that is why they give 3 of whatever they are giving you. I had scans today and will go tomorrow to see what the plan is. If there is progression and the markers have gone up again I will be switching to something else. I am not sure I want to switch, I do have a terrible reaction to this Tax but I keep thinking I at least know what to expect and if I have to try something else it could be worse, but on the other hand it could be better so I will just go with whatever my onco suggests. I pray that the markers will be down and the scans show some improvement but will be excited if they have stayed the same. My markers have always been good indicators of what is going on and I know that not everyones are reliable. How are things going with you? I hope things are getting better, the pain from the Tax bothered me also when I had my break from it and I finally figured that it was the taxotere causing it, I wonder if it could be like detoxing?
vogafan - I had issues with my toenails also. I had treatment from September until the end of December and both of my big toenails turned black and I kept thinking they would fall off. In February they still were black and one had started to ooze a little fluid tinged with blood so I made an appointment with a podiatrist and he said they were impacted and he had to remove them. He said they would not have come off on their own and I am glad I did go. Yours may be totally different but it might not hurt to at least get an opinion on them. I was told it would take a year for them to grow back but since I had to start Taxotere again in April I am not sure if and when they will ever come back but it does not bother me.
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My mom started her first round of TC on Wednesday. She immediately felt the side-effects. Today is the worst though. Her mind is not there. She forgets what she is doing and saying. She has horrible heartburn and nothing is relieving it. She also has body aches, which are miserable. No appetite. Hot flashes. Fatigue to the extreme.
She is so miserable she said she isn't going back to do it again and still has 3 treatments left.
I'm so devastated for herI don't know what to do.
When will she start feeling like herself again and when will her mind come back? I'm so upset - it's like I dot have my mom and I am so worried. -
They are all the ones I have and 2 days after chemo (mine is wednesday also) so today is my bad day....acid reflux is a SE of tax...I take medication for it now, prescribed by my oncologist...tell her to hang in there....i self talk..."i will be ok, i will get through it".....over and over again....tomorrow will be better for me....I get 3 weeks on 1 off and my 3rd week is the worst.....HUGS TO YOUR MOM!!
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ChelseaAshley - I can totally relate to your mom. The first treatment I had, I get mine on Thursdays, and it really hit me on Saturday, I just slowly faded. I could not walk without holding on to things, off balance, could not think straight, could not even think of words sometimes, this lasts for several days or more, some times it is over a week for me. Sunday was bad and Mondays are my worst days. The very first treatment I had, on that Monday I really thought it was killing me, but then I got through Monday and felt kind of human on Tuesday. I always run a low grade temp, racing heart, very tired and fatigued. I take Nexium for heartburn, have for years, so have her call the oncos office and get something to help with that. Drink plenty of fluids, water, gatorade, anything she can tolerate, it helps to flush it out faster and may keep her from getting dehydrated, but that can happen no matter how much she drinks. I have found that I have to go a week after my treatment and get a liter of IV fluids, but that is just me, others probably do not need it. My tongue always gets very sore for a week, food and drink tastes terrible, that usually lasts for about 2 weeks for me, I am on my 4th treatment of my second round. I did 6 treatments starting in September thru December, then had to take a break, and started back up in April. Just know that some of what she is experiencing is just part of it, but be sure to tell the oncologist all of the things so they can lower the dose if they think she needs it to be lowered. I had mine lowered and it helped some. I also have to say, I get very down in the dumps for about a week, wondering why I am doing this but then I start to feel better after my fluids and the temp goes away. I usually hibernate for about 12 of the 21 days. I go for treatment every 3 weeks. I know it is hard on you being the one seeing her like this, so just hang in there, help her as much as you can without smothering her, try to get her to drink Ensure or Boost or one of those, if she is not eating. I lived on just Peanut Butter by the spoonful for a couple weeks for the first 4 treatments, then I boiled eggs. I found that cold foods worked better for me. I still do not like to eat hot foods the first 2 weeks after treatment, I can tolerate mashed potatoes, or a little rice but cold foods such as pudding, yogurt, the Boost, things that I do not have to chew work best, sometimes you are just to tired to chew. I hope this is not to much info and if there is anything else you want to know, I will help anyway I can from my experience and I am sure others will also. You can private message me if you want. You hang in there, I have 2 daughters and I know how hard it is for them. Sending you and your mom a great big hug.
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Hi Jeanie,
Thank you so much for your reply and advice/experience. Today has been good and bad. She feels better and then says she feels like she is going to die. It's so hard.
I will definitely mention to her oncologist all of her symptoms - what makes me mad is he isn't quick to prescribe. Getting something out of him is like pulling teeth.
I do have a question: what can you do about a sore tongue and throat? She says she feels like her whole mouth is cut up. Is there anything to get that to heal quickly? Or relieve it? Her tongue is white like thrush and very swollen.
Also... She is terribly constipated. I know that's how you get rid of toxins and she can't go. I had her take a stool softener and drink some Citrusell (sp?)
So far... Nothing
Tell me symptoms will ease soon?! -
the symptoms will ease but don't know how soon!!
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ChelseaAshley - I do not have any remedy for the sore tongue, and yes, mine does turn white like thrush also, I was told to rinse with 1/2 tsp of baking soda to a glass of water two or three times a day. I don't know if it helped but I think it made me feel better. I also know this can be a sign of dehydration, that is what the nurse told me when I went in for my counts the week after my first treatment. The soreness will ease as time goes on, and yes it feels like you have sucked on hard candy all day and your tongue is all cut up. I just drink lots of water, that is about all I can stand, although I can do Gatorade. I always get diarrhea from my treatment so I am always using Imodium. I do not know what to tell you about the constipation, but I think what you gave her should be good, if she should get diarrhea I was told to take Imodium at the first sign of it. I usually do not start that until about Monday or Tuesday and I get my treatment on Thursday. As each day goes by she will start to feel a tiny bit more human and it just keeps getting better from there. I have a very understanding onco and he is always right there to get me whatever I need, I also never hesitate to call and talk to the onco nurses. I called them the first week everyday with something and they were always willling to help me with whatever I needed and they can be a good source of information also. I hope tomorrow will be a better day and tell her to hang in there, it will get better, I think she should be over the very "worst" day, of course that could be different for everyone. I have kept a journal of how I have felt everyday from treatment and sometimes it just helps me to go back and say, ah, yes, tomorrow I will feel like this. All of my days have been the same from the first treatment so I can just about plan what I can or cannot do. I also think the first treatment was the worst, not that they get a lot better but I think we are so taken by surprise that we do not know what to expect. I had chemo 21 years ago and I never, ever felt this bad with what I took then. I was also told I am just highly sensitive to this particular drug, that most people tolerate it well, but reading here there are lots of us that are sensitive to it. I wish there was something I could do to help her, but I think only time will do that. You hang in there also, it will get better for both of you, it is actually harder on the one watching than the one going through it, I have been on both sides of the coin, you are a wonderful daughter to be right there and help with whatever you can, that will make her feel better just having you there. Sometimes we just have to remind ourselves that we are doing this to save our lives and it will be well worth it down the road, I remind myself a lot, I can do anything for a day, then just try and get through one day at a time. I have been told that Taxotere is a great drug and works well.
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Jeanie,
Thanks for the feedback. Her side-effects got so bad from last night to this morning that I ended up taking her to the ER because she was just completely out of it. Her tongue doubled in size, she couldn't talk or walk. Turns out she was really dehydrated because she had not been able to keep anything down. She also had oral thrush, a vaginal yeast infection...such a horrible one that it went to her belly-button.
They gave her an iv with fluids, an antibiotic for the yeast, pain meds for her bone pain, and better anti-nausea meds because her onc didn't prescribe any, and something to control her stomach acid. The ER doctor was livid that her onc didn't prescribe better meds to ease her symptoms. He called him on the phone and had a long discussion with him about how he needed to take better care of my mom.
She's doing SO much better - can actually eat, walk, talk, and enjoy a movie with me now. It's really nice to have my mom back.
She's unsure about whether she wants to do chemo again...but for now....she's doing okay and we're going to take it one step at a time.
This is the scariest thing in the world. Thanks for walking me through part of it! It was definitely a comfort!
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CherlseaAshley - I am so glad you were there to take your mom to the ER. I was wondering if she was getting dehydrated because I know that can do terrible things to a person, I am just so glad you took her and that the ER doctor had a talk with her onc. I hope that helps when she goes to see him again. I feel so bad for her to have this reaction right off the bat. I know the thrush can be bad also, glad she got something to help with all of it. It is amazing to me what dehydration can do to a person. I am glad she is feeling better and hopefully the onco can lower the dose, or give her IV fluids the day or two after, or at least give her something for the nausea to try and keep her from getting so bad. Tell her to keep feeling better and keep me updated on how she is doing and what they say when she goes to the doctor for her next appointment. I will be praying and hoping that all goes well from here on out. Hugs to both of you.
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I forgot to mention that I used only Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash all through chemo, my mouth couldn't handle regular toothpaste. And I had to swish and swallow the "magic mouthwash" (prescription) a few times. Avoid any acidic food like tomatoes, orange juice, etc.
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chelsea....you also should have a conversation with the dr. also..IMO he should have known better...I get fluids along with my chemo...no anti nausea medications, there is a protocol with tax (well that is what they told me) and benedryl is part of it...firstly I get steroids, then 2 anti nausea medications, then benedryl then tax.....along with the tax I get 500liters of fluids, now I do cause I am not a drinker and also cause I am nauseous alot....I am so sorry that your mother is going through this and she is lucky that you are there with her....wish my kids were so involved...
he also gives me medication for acid reflux which is a side effect of tax (he told my supporter that is why I have it cause I never did before) and medication for my bone pain and 2 anti nausea medications for me to have at home which I can take at the same time...
I in the last year have had to go to the ER to get fluids because i was dehydrated....and lots of people go the day after to get extra fluids.....
good luck!!!
Sandy
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ChelseaAshley - I take Decadron the day before my treatment, I get it the day of my treatment in IV form and take it the day after treatment. On the day of treatment I get 2 anti-nausea medications, the decadron, the taxotere and of course a bag of fluids. I go a week after for a liter of fluids and sometimes potassium, I can go before that time if I feel I need the fluids, but I have found the week works for me and that is when I get my Neulasta shot also, the week after. I take Nexium on regular basis and if I need to I can increase the dose by one pill a day, I also take Zofran on a regular basis, every 6 hours for nausea. blondiex46 says she gets Benadryl, I only had to have that the first time as I had a reaction to it but have not had to have it since. I know some people just get it as a regular part of their treatment. I hope your mom is doing better today and that she will get along better with the second round, now that she has some instructions and medications to help her with some of the side effects.
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they told me that the benedryl was required by the company that made tax to prevent side effects of the tax.....i get decadron also...zofran and compezine (sp) for nausea, as I said they told me I could take it together....sometimes the illegal stuff comes in IF the others don't work....I got zometa last wednesday and for 1000liter, 500 along with the tax and 500 with the zometa.........
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