Long term PILC survivors...what did you do/are doing?

sueinfl
sueinfl Member Posts: 258

I have had a recurrence of my PILC. So far it is considered local, but, with lobular, who knows until the tumors are huge.

I have surgery in a week followed by radiation. Radiation really scares me. 

What I am asking is what have you long term survivors who were stage III and up done? What was your treatment, your life style changes, mental outlooks, anything...  

I have so little faith that the doctors are doing anything other than stab in the dark. I do not want to go through treatments that only produce a different death. 

Sorry if this sounds morbid, but I am looking for hope and I believe it lies in you who are still here, not the doctors.

Sue

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  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    THat is bad news, so sorry......I am not a long termer yet but wanted to respond - Where is your recurrence? Did you have radiation before?  I guess not? Radiation is very good for local recurrence and they really pushed it on me.......and I have been told by several doctors that lobular is more likely to recur locally or in the other breast....

  • toomuch
    toomuch Member Posts: 901
    edited May 2013

    Sue - There have been several women who have recently added 5-7 year survival posts. The initial pathology report I recieved indicated PILC. I was concerned so I sent the tumor slides to John Hopkins for a 2nd opinion. That pathology report indicated ILC Grade 2 with no indication of pleomorphic. I suspect that many more women are told that they have ILC with a grade reported than PILC today. The PILC boards are usually pretty sleepy.

    I did want to tell you that I found radiation much easier then chemo. I used Calendula lotion on the skin in my radiation field twice each day and my skin held up really well without any burns. I do go for skin checks twice a year now and my LE did get worse but I think that radiation was one of my biggest weapons against BC. I don't regret doing it. Your RO should be able to tell you the specific percent benefit against recurrance that the radiation will provide.

    Again, I'm sorry that you're dealing with this again. I hope that you begin to seem some light at the end of the tunnel. (((hugs)))

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited May 2013

    Hi Sue,  

    My treatment was pretty much the same as yours.  I had 6 rounds of AC, bilateral mastectomy, then Femara.  I never had rads, even though there was a lot of tumor and there were some clusters of cells in 3 dirrerent nodes.  My onc just didn't think I should.  The Femara made my cholesterol shoot up, so I started Lipitor.  When Zometa (every 6 months)  and Metformin started looking like they had potential benefit I started on those, too.  I take vitamin D3, multivitamins and b-vitamins.  I make sure to get all the sleep I need; it seems to help me feel better from the SE's of Femara and Lipitor.  I don't know if any of this is what I need, but I do what I can.

    I sincerely hope the surgery and rads get this bc out of your life forever.  You are in a good place to get excellent care.  Please let us know how you are doing with this.  I hope the rads are not as bad as you are anticipating.   Hugs,  G. 

  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited May 2013

    Hi Sue

    I'm really sorry to hear of your recurrence, and hope it is only local.

    I had a lumpectomy, TAC chemo, radiation and have been on Femara for nearly two years.

    My doctor said the most important step to prevent recurrence was to keep as thin as possible.  I take vitamin D, low dose aspirin and curcumin/turmeric daily. I also take Efexor as an antidepressant and to help offset the hot flashes caused by menopause/Femara.

    I had counselling regularly for about 20 months but haven't needed to see my counsellor again since about a year ago.

    I also have six monthly blood tests to pick up any issues, whether cancer related or not. 

  • sueinfl
    sueinfl Member Posts: 258
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for all the info! 

    Lily, it's considered a local recurrence because they can't see it anywhere else, but, with lobular, who knows. I did not have rads initially because of it being on the same side as my heart and I did not get a feeling of condifidence from the rad onc. I postponed Arimidex because of already having high cholesterol, osteopenia and dental issues. Needless to say, I am taking the Arimidex although I want to find out about switching to Tamoxifen. More to study on that one.

    So good to see you, Gitane! I remember you from my first round. I will not make the mistake of leaving this place behind this time. 

    Racy, I am down thirty pounds since my first go round and looking to lose a few more. I am trying to keep as active as possible to counter the Arimidex SDs. Thanks for mentioning the counseling. That is on my list.

    I asked for my surgery to be delayed until we see if the Arimidex has an effect on the tumor left. Feeling it is the only way since it is so hard to image. I am also going off of the vicodin that I have been on since reconstruction. There are now reports of opioids stimulating tumor growth. I am sick over the idea of having fed the damn things all this time. 

    If there is no change or more growth in three months, it is onto the gurney. The initial onc I saw at MDA suggested this course of action and the rad onc said that if the tumor shrinks enough, surgery might not be necessary. I think that each speciality thinks theirs is the way to go.

    To your good health!

    Sue

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited June 2013

    So sorry to hear, but thankfully, local recurrence does not alter life expectancy (according to the onco I had in Wisconsin).

    I just passed the 6 year mark.  I think cancer is a crap shoot and even though I try to read as much as I can, I realize it will be what it will be (frustrating and maddening!!).

    I had bilateral mx (my choice).  My sig line tells you my treatment.  I cut back on exercise and take less vitamins.  What I have added/take are: curcumin, 1 adult aspirin, meltatonin (20 mg. an hour before bed), bitter melon and quercetin (mainly for my seasonal allergies, but am reading this is great for cancer).

    Of course, I don't know if something is brewing, since as you say, they don't check for it.....

    Here's to all of us!!!

    Editing to add:  I no longer do low-fat/high carb.  I swear I think that caused me pre-diabetes and cancer (just my hunch).  I do low carb/paleo.  I feel better and have managed to lose some weight.

  • SueEllenJ
    SueEllenJ Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2013

    Hi Sue,

    I'm sorry to hear you are dealing with a recurrence. I finished treatment 6 years ago, and so far, so good. My Onc keeps having me come in every 3 months because he can't believe how well I'm doing---the largest of my string of four tumors (darn ILC!) was 4.5 cm.

    Anyway, I changed my diet completely. No added sugar (sugar feeds cancer), no meat and dairy because I'm estrogen positive, I keep my weight low because fat creates estrogen and I exercise (walk) daily. Well, almost daily  :)

    My doc said whatever I'm doing, keep it up. I hope this helps.

    I hope all goes well with your surgery...please keep us informed when you feel up to it.

    Sue

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited June 2013

    I am really sorry you are dealing with this. 

    I am barely 2 years out, so I can't really help. Like you, I had neo-adjuvant chemo and, also like you, the tumor shrank a lot, but not completely. Then I had some more chemo after, rads, ooph and AI, which I am still on.

    I have groomed my diet some, but nothing too crazy. Mostly cutting out white carbs (including sweets), keeping alcohol to 3 drinks a week or less, eating lots of veggies and little red meat.

    I make an effort to get 10 hours of exercise a week,  although much of that is simply walking my dog, so nothing heroic.

    I try to have fun and make a serious effort to stay clear of other people's BS.

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