Chemo May 2013

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  • ReddHeddMomma
    ReddHeddMomma Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2013

    Angie - I have been having the same issues all weekend, and am also on taxotere and cytoxan. It started Saturday evening, which was my day 4 after my first infusion. Had to take Imodium yesterday - just one did the trick for me, though, but perhaps because I didn't take it until late in the day and I didn't have much in my system at that point.



    I am living on broth, toast and Popsicles at this point, and not much of any of them. It is sad, but I am almost afraid to eat anything because it has been so painful yesterday and today. But I know I have to eat, so I am making some rice pudding in my rice cooker, with coconut milk substituted for part of the regular milk. I thought maybe some comfort food would help, and I put in a bit of cinnamon to entice me to eat it. Still cooking, but the house smells wonderful...so I am hopeful I will at least get a little to stay in when I eat.



    I was told that the SEs would be worst with my regimen days 5 through 12, and so far that is proving true for me. But I will survive this. If the rice pudding doesn't work, I will try a shake made from some Boost meal replacement and ice in the blender - at least it would be cold on my sore throat going down, anyway. Chemo...it's not for sissies, eh? UPDATE: rice pudding just finished cooking... yummmmmmmm. Will post my recipe if it actually stays in my belly well. Just had a tiny bowl - was afraid to have too much, but it was lovely just to have something cinnamony and warm and cozy to eat.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Headed to a BBQ with a group of friends that haven't seen my new "do" yet... This should be interesting!



    Patty, sorry about the rough start to the party, but yay for rockin the pink wig!



    Because of the few of you talking about your pink wigs...... Were hosting another baby shower here for my 3rd gbaby due in aug. It's a luau..... And we usually have about 60 people here (guys & gals) So I just may toss the hat aside for a bright wig that day! :)



    Regbeach ... I sure don't envy your situation! Find strength in yourself that you are making the best choice for her....



    Happy thoughts!

    Lorrie

  • sebaroni
    sebaroni Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2013

    Hi All - Have just been lurking for awhile. Got my port put in last week and am just now feeling better from that. A/C starts tomorrow. I will go in there and "do it scared." My breast surgeon told me if I don't do it, I will get cancer again. I have to kill as many of the renegade cells that may be out there. I so want to back out.

    Suzan

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    elkatho,

    They said okay to spinach?  That was one specific item my oncologist told me to stay away from.  There have been several recalls on spinach because of sewerage in the water.  The bacteria is grown into it and cannot be washed off.  When my oncologist realized my white cells weren't crashing, she told me I  could eat what I wanted, including spinach (which is why it stuck out in my head so much).  

    It's amazing how different care providers give us all different answers to things.  It goes to show how fluid the treatment is for breast cancer.  It was the same when I had thyroid cancer a few years ago.  Treatment decisions were always changing depending on what was protocol at the time (and it would change from appointment to appointment sometimes).

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited May 2013

    Thanks Gowiththeflow pickles were good. I also got some of that rice pudding someone was suggesting. Day 4 and still battleling a 101 fever ugh.....this did not happen first round. 

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    gully, glad the pickles were good.  I ate like 1/2 a jar some days.  Hope the fever breaks and you start feeling better soon.

  • AmyJax
    AmyJax Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013

    Elkatho - thanks for the useful information from your nutritionist consult. Appreciate it all very much.



    As far as digestive challenges that some have been discussing, constipation has been really challenging for me, which in turn has kicked up the hemorrhoids, which in turn create painful bowel movements with bleeding. I take three over the counter stool softeners at night, and miralax in the morning, and dulcalax when I haven't gone for a couple days.



    The past couple of days I've had a good size amount of raw veggies (cauliflower, broccoli, and carrots) and have incorporated some black beans too. Actually had a fairly regular BM today and think I need to incorporate more of that into the diet....



    Of course, that is all for when we don't have violent diarrhea from our chemo....which I did have during days 2-4. But that did subside.......and went back to constipation which is more the status quo for me. Oh the joy.



    Regbeach - I hope a path opens for you that you feel comfortable walking with your mother. I'm sorry that you and she have to deal with this. I am wondering if there is a geriatric consultant that you might be able to incorporate into your info gathering?



    Sebaroni - I had my first AC treatment on 5/15. While it wasn't wonderful, it wasn't horrible either. I feel like "I can do it." Although as my second treatment approaches, I'm getting more anxious than I thought I would be.....we'll see what it brings.



    I'm curious what everyone's MO days about drinking alcohol? I've not had much taste for wine but a beer here and there has tasted good when I got past my SEs.



    Good evening to everyone. I hope we all have moments where we forget about what we are going through.....











  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited May 2013

    I'm curious about the drinking as well!!!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    I haven't asked about drinking but did have one drink Friday night. Cranberry for the bladder and vodka for the mind! I just figured 1 wasn't going to kill me.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Crap, we aren't supposed to be drinking?



    I will have to ask. I had wine yesterday at the party.. A lot of wine, I think I had one for each of you! And had a glass a night most of last week! Better go add this to the list of questions....

    Sigh.



    No alcohol today as I started the steroids for tomorrow's treatment. I am concerned about the needle and my vein with that problem they had for the labs. More nervous this time around than l was For my first treatment.



    I better go get my notebook and prioritize my questions....now is it wine at the top of the list or vein? Lol



    Lorrie,

    You will find a rockin wig, or I will mail you mine.

    We could start a new trend and pass the wig along, and the wearer can tell where it has been!

    Pat

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    Hell, if you're already pouring chemo into your body, what difference does a beer make?  Laughing

    Now, with that said, I haven't had a drink since October, but I don't normally drink much anyway.  I do miss my iced coffees though.  used to drink them from morning til night, but now I might have one or two a week.  Just my one cup of hot coffee in the morning, then switch to lemonade or water or juice.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Sisterhood of the travelling wig! What a grand idea!



    Hope all goes well tomorrow Patti

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Lpc, I never saw the movie or read the book...and here I thought I was onto something! Lol

    Thanks for the well wishes.



    Gowiththeflow...no coffee either? You are all killing me! Was my head buried in the sand during instructions? Usually I am two cups hot coffee in the am, one hot coffee in the afternoon. i didn't really want it during week 1 chemo, so that was ok, though I did find an International delight Mocha "iced "coffee in the drink section of the grocery, and I made it in the blender with ice and boy that sucker was good. Just one a day for a few days. LOVED the flavor. Didn't touch it after week one. Wanted to save it for my "special occasion" (chemo).



    Oh, an aside on how I came to buy the International Delight Mocha iced coffee. I went grocery shopping I guess day 2 or 3 of first treatment. You know how you look around to see what you want when you don't have a list? I came home with that iced coffee, a watermelon, cream cheese, a tub of mashed potatoes and a loaf of bread. Lol...that was for a family of five. Needless to say, I shouldn't be going food shopping without a list when it's week one of chemo!



    Pat

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Patti



    I most certainly did not give up coffee. I even walk into chemo with large cup of coffee. No one has ever said a word about it. I do believe there are studies out there that say coffee has some protective qualities. I drink 3 or 4 cups a day used to be more it just doesn't taste as good anymore. Darn chemo mouth! Sisterhood of travelling pants was quite popular when my daughters were young so I read along with them.



    Lisa







  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited May 2013

    💜❤my coffee. Just don't use sweet n low !!!

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    Patty, there is no rule on coffee, I just didn't want it.  It was too heavy in my stomach.  I'm just starting to drink it more in the last few days (like one a day between other drinks).  I felt really thirsty when I was having chemo, and the iced coffee just didn't do it for me.  Now ask me about orange juice, orange/banana/strawberry juice, orange pineapple juice, peach/tangerine juice, and I can tell you all about it.  Or the crystal light lemonade.  

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    I asked about my wine consumption...... They said that as long as it doesn't contribute to nausea.... Have at it!

    I love me some wine and have some most evenings..... Hasn't created any I'll effects.... However, everything in moderation is what they say. I'll tell you when my aches were so bad that oxycodone didn't help, the glass of wine about an hour before bed made the night bearable...

  • sebaroni
    sebaroni Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2013

    Thank you for posting about the wine. I just took it for granted that it would be off limits. Not sure why, like someone said, if we are putting all those super strong drugs in our bodies, what is a glass of wine...or two...going to hurt? In fact, I am so upset about starting chem tomorrow, I think I will have a glass! It just might take the edge off.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Sebaroni, sorry you have the jitters about chemo. You WILL be fine. Bring plenty to keep yourself occupied. I hope you have read the boards to see about side effects and what to have on hand. As well as what to bring with you to the treatment. If you haven't read the boards I will rummage through and post it all for you....there are some great tips to be had. Truly does make life easier. The women (and sometimes there are men) here are great. There is so much to learn AND so much support. You are not alone.

    Pat



  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    Sebaroni, I am so scared of everything....i hate needles,the dentist,  just going to the doctor.  I was actually calm my first morning of chemo, my husband was more nervous.  But I knew I had to do everything I could to up my chances.   It really wasnt so bad.  I know everyone is different.   But they did blood first, I saw my oncoogist...then they sent me up for chemo.. I dont have a port so they had to do an iv.  Thankfully she got it at the first try.  I was a little nervouse when they watch to see if you are allergic.   Again, thankfully I wasn't...I was fine going home.   The next few days I felt a little odd.  I had strange pains....but there was a resolution for everything i was feeling....I hope you have minimal side affects and get thru this ok.. You can do this....We are strong   ...SEnding positive thoughts your way...I get my second infusion tomorrow and hope it goes as smoothly as the first.  I'll be thnking about you    Good luck.

  • MichelleRN78
    MichelleRN78 Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2013

    @mcgis-  Good luck with your treatment.  Sorry I have been off the radar for a few days.  Had chemo Thursday and it pretty much knocks me out for the first few days.  I have been super tired.  Have not had any diarrhea or constipation this time and the nausea seems better.  I take the herceptin with chemo so I don't know what the SE for that are alone.  Stay in touch, let me know how things are going. :)

    @Itiswhatitis I just noticed where you live.  Me too!  Maybe we have some of the same docs.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Michell,

    I have Dr. Orlowski... A friend of mine had Pierce....



    Side note to my wine comment.... I'm not on any other meds other than my chemo cocktail. Of course, if taking meds, younshould check with the doc. :) I know we're all grown ups but felt like my post may have seemed a little irresponsible .... Oh, and I do have my coffee every morning. I think it's just really important to get plenty PLENTY of good water and fluids!



    Sebaroni.... Try to rest tonight. My anticipation for my first treatment was waaaaaay worse than the chemo apt itself!



    Pat.... Too funny about passing the wig around!



    I hope everyone is feeling as well as possible today!

    Happy thoughts!

    Lorrie

  • regbeach
    regbeach Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2013

    For those following the story about the cheme decision for my mom.  First, thanks for reading and commenting.

    This AM (Monday) I talked about chemo again with mom. She was adamant with no. Then, I said she would still have to do radiation and she said no- which made me question her ability to decide all over again.  Most of the day I was thinking we would cancel it.  Then, I talked to an old friend who basically thought the original plan of trying at least one treatment seemed like something everyone had agreed to and why not do that.  My brother and I talked to mom again.  She tends to listen to him- like, she won't do extra exercises at home for me most of the time but will always do it for him. It's either his deep voice, or she's just tired of me telling her to do things all the time (take your medicine, move your foot, etc).

    Anyway, with both of us there, she agreed to do it.  Oddly, this time, she cried, which of course made me question all over again.  It seems no matter the decision the opposite one always seems better!  I say oddly- because the neurologists told us her personality and emotions would be affected by the stroke.  One specifically said she would never cry again.  She has laughed, she has been annoyed but through all of rehab and breast cancer news never one tear until today.  Maybe the situation finally sunk in, maybe her decision this time even with tears was made with a different clarity, a realization that chemo as bad as it might be, might be a good choice.   Or maybe she just couldn't take us bringing it up again and is doing it because my brother said the drs. and us think it is a good idea to try.

    Either way, it doesn't feel "better", it just feels surreal.   Of course, I googled one more thing and read horrible stories of side effects- numbness in feet, blah, blah.  And read that the steriod has a moderate interaction with her anti-coagulant- trying to tell myself that it is just for 3 days. 

    She is always tired when she goes to bed (silly, aren't we all), plus she takes her more of her anti-seizure med at night which might add to it.  Those are the moments when I think- My God, I hope she can still walk on the "fatigue days" and that there aren't more than a few in a row.  I thought her agreeing would feel better.  In the AM, I first felt bad (like wrong decision) when she was saying no, then I felt sort of relief that we wouldn't be dealing with chemo.  Then after talking to my friend, I felt like chemo was right again, then mom's tears...

    Steroid in the AM and IV line in the afternoon. 

  • carla53
    carla53 Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2013

    Hello. This is my first time posting. Going to start chemo on Thursday May 30th. Thank you to all that have contributed. I've learned a lot. As one or two have said 'proactive not reactive'. I like that.

    Last night, after reading most of the posts, I believe I had empathy pains. My body hurt, mouth hurt, some diarrhea all that and hadn't even had one chemo yet. Probably nerves.

    It does feel somewhat soothing to get a checklist in order. Colace, check, clariton, check. Thermometer, check. Squirt bottle, check. Ice, check. Biotene, check. Popsicles, check. Pepiced, check. Baking soda and salt, check. Check, check, check. Gosh, what I really would like to do is check ouut for a few months. Ha ha.

    Again, thank you. It's really nice having ladys around that know the emotional and physical ups and downs.

    Love -peace-joy---Carla

  • MichelleRN78
    MichelleRN78 Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2013

    Itiswhatitis - I have Dr Tiffany, but had seen Orlowski for my brca testing. (I liked him) I work at the hospital and knew them before all of this.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Regbeach.... I will be thinking of you guys tomorrow & the days to follow! I am sorry that this is happening to any of us, but think it's great that you found a place to get some perspective from others going through it in order to help your Mom! I know that on my worse days, I have found comfort from some of the most amazing and strong women here that I will survive chemo.... That I'm not the only one whos having these dang SEs and I'll feel better in a day or two...



    Carla.... I will be having my second treatment (t/c) on the 30th...... My first was 5/9. I'm every 3 weeks. I was so nervous, but it was just a poke for IV and a lot of info to take in on the first day...... Pretty uneventful... Ask as many questions of the nurse as you can think of! They are so awesome... At least at the hospital here! Good luck!



    Michelle... I liked Dr O.... Until I went in for my check in last Monday. When I told him about my SEs he asked if I'd taken the Rx the night prior to chemo... He forgot to give me one! Fumbled with my file and said "are you sure i didnt give you one?" my hubby and i looked at each other like 'are you kidding me? How do you forget that?' oh well, I made it through it, I was just upset that it might have been better..... I have one

    now for steroids to take the night before & he says it should help with the SEs now..... Plus Ativan for sleep cuz it's suppose to jack you up? haha what a roller coaster we are on! Too bad it's not a fun ride!



    Happy thoughts

    Lorrie



  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    A bit nervous.... I had blood drawn 11 days after first treatment, now they want to draw again tomorrow & then the day of my next treatment in 3 days! Doc said things looked good other than being a bit anemic last time..... Why 2 more if I was good? Ugh

    Maybe the nerves are creeping in about this weeks cocktail.....

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited May 2013

    AryaS - Welcome!

    Sorry to hear about the pukey flu bug hitting your house....what timing! Not sure they will go ahead with chemo if youre sick. Dont worry though, they will probably only delay it a little bit and then you'll be on your way.

    Chemo itself....the infusion, is really a non event. I like to think of it as my "spa day" as I get to be away from the work and kid pressures for a few hours, recline in a heated seat with warm blankets and watch netflex movies on my computer. They even bring me food and drink although I usually bring some of my own. Also take a nap while there. 

    Its 3 to 4 days later that I have the "slump" or my YUCK days as I call them when I have all the lovely SE's you've read about....mainly indigestion, fuzzy cotton brain, fatigue, taste buds off. Haven't felt sick once but I make sure I take the anti-nausea drugs. I've worked everyday although somedays its a struggle.....but you get through it. You'll do fine!

    Good luck today - hope it all goes well and you didnt get the stomach bug!

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2013

    Arya and Carla - welcome, and good luck! You will make it through - we are all with you. I'm headed to chemo cocktail #2 tomorrow, now with my new arm port. Hopefully it will work well, other than still being slightly sore. Got to shower again this morning after a few days of not being able to get the area wet - halleluia! I always hate peeling back the bandages to see the "surprise" underneath. I'm not that bruised so that was a nice surprise this morning.

    Hugs to everyone going through temperatures and SEs today. I realize today is as good as it gets for the next week. Sigh. 

    I'm interested to see what my blood count levels will be tomorrow before chemo. Not worried about the WBC since I'm on neulasta, but I find the fluctuations fascinating. Will be interesting to see what chemo does to all the different levels in our blood.

    Certain hairs are starting to fall out now - if I remember correctly, the "you know you're a cancer patient when" stated it best - when you use the restroom and notice a squirrel has exploded in your undergarments. HA! Not quite there yet, but the image makes me giggle every time.

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2013

    My doc said I could drink at my daughters bat mitzvah!!! I haven't had a drink since the mx though- just haven't felt it. I'm not drinking coffee either- it just doesn't taste good, but I wish it did because I crave it!!!

    Good amounts of hair coming out today! My scalp hurts. Last night my head hurt so bad I needed a cold washcloths on my forehead. Still feeling better though. I guess chemo for me is gonna be 2 crappy weeks and 1 decent one

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