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  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    hmmm strange...I had 3 MRI's for my neck and spine and never had any injections. Never had a MRI for my breasts for maybe that is different.

    As for the wire...yep that is exactly what I had.

    Wow I am really surprised about the MRI and radiation. I googled it can't find anything about injecting radioactive  material. That is scary!

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    schatzi14 - maybe it is just for breast MRI's.  Yes, they do inject you, maybe some people don't even know but when they initially set you up, they already set up to inject half way through the test.  Maybe you can google - breast MRI procedure.  If I find some link, I will send that you.  I had a lot of MRI's after my diagnosis, and was very happy, until my surgeon told me this.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    Yes I can imagine. I did ask my MO about having any other tests and he said only if the symptoms warrant it.

    I asked about PET scans...MRIs and even Ultrasounds. I guess here in Canada where we have universal healthcare, they don't do anything more than is necessary. If in fact, if they are using radiation, I don't want it anyways. LOL

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    What they inject is an MRI Contrast dye.  The ingredient is "gadolinium" which is a paramagnetic metal ion.  My surgeon says it is radioactive material.  She must know.  I think they do have the radiologist involved in this test, so maybe it is something to do with radiation.  I think they don't want breast feeding mothers to get this dye during MRI, because it is dangerous for the babies.  The dye is injected in order to get more vivid images from the MRI.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    Hmmm I just read that...it says it doesn't use any ionizing radioactive material like Xrays.

    Now I am really confused!

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    I won't be surprised if my thyroid nodule has come from having had so many MRI's after my treatment.  I finished all my treatments on 3/31/11 and then on 08/07/11, I had a petscan done which did not show any thyroid activity at all, all was clear.  Afterwards I developed a small thyroid nodule. I am now thinking it could have possibly come from these many MRI's, I had one done every 6 months with this dye injected.  I think all of us women, have to balance out our own personal situations and decide for ourselves if tests are really warranted for the particular situation.  I no longer force my doctors to test me for this and that.  I used to do that. I used to think I am really very lucky to get MRI's every 6 months, that way, I will always be followed up.  I don't think that anymore.  I would rather stay away from the hospital and all scans and tests and only go there when my symptoms persist after the 2-week or 1-month rule.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    amen!

    What is the status of your thyroid now? Was there ever a definitive conclusion or just wait and see?

    You did have a needle biopsy done on the nodule right?

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    schatzi14 - I am gonna read up on this.  I never checked the validity of what my BS told me, I trusted her completely.  I haven't had an MRI for a year and a half, based on what she told me.  I had one lump checked 4 different times by different doctors, but never had the MRI because of the fear of the radioactive dye.  Now I am wondering why she would tell me something like this if it is not true, that the dye is not radioactive.  I will read up more on this and ask her this quetion face to face.  I had previously understood that for a TN patient, a doctor could order an MRI every 6 months and it is covered. Medicine is really complicated, isn't it?  But we have to trust our doctors, what else can we do?

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    Yes, thanks for asking about my thyroid nodule.  I had two biopsies done about 6 months back, it was benign.  The next biopsy is scheduled for June 5th, but I am waiting to see my bloodwork first and then decide.  If the bloodwork is all normal, I won't go for the biopsy.  I just hate them poking and disturbing the small area.   The authorization is valid until August, so i could get it done later if I feel there is a concern.  But if all my thyroid blood tests are normal, I feel it would be an overkill to do the biopsy.  the only concern was that the nodule grew from 18 mm to 21 mm, but I am not too worried or concerned.  Feeling a little more tired than usual, though.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    Yeah I understand. I was supposed to go and have another ultrasound on my growing nodule too. That was last year and I never got around to it. It was biopsied and was benign as well. I should get one done this summer. It has been 2 years but my blood tests are OK. My medication hasn't changed in 4 years either.

    I am not sure what any of my symptoms are due to. I am getting up there so probably just old age aches and pains with a little push from the Arimidex. I will decide whether or not to continue with it after my next mammo in August.

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited May 2013

    Melissa - those markers are so random and not reliable.  I would dispense with them completely.  When I had full blown cancer w/no treatment, mine was 19.  After treatment, it was 11.  POSSIBLY as a baseline, but the under 38 thing certainly did not apply in my case.  

    Ida- I did have a tumor marker with my biopsy.  This whole thing is one big crap shoot, so I would do what you want.  Its your choice!  

  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    Went for my 3rd chemo yesterday which was suppose to be my last.   The doctor said one more and then we will scan and hopefully start radiation.    Please continue to keep me in your thoughts and prayers.  
    Going through it the first time is hard, but the second time is a bit harder because you kind of feel like it is a waste of time and it takes an emotional toll on you big time.   If it works great you have your life and if it don't you have sickness and financial hardship but you don't know unless you try.............:(   I have a UTI and we are waiting on Chest X-ray results to see if there is anything adding to by breathlessness.

    They said that the there is a (sp?) miracular cell difference in Taxol and Taxotere the reason there is still hope in using Taxotere when Taxol did not kill it all.   Just because it came back when using Taxol does not necessarily mean that the Taxol did not work it just happens sometimes when even the smallest cell remains.  She said that if it were like 3 months after finishing your Taxol treatment then they would say it did not work, but mine was almost two years so they don't consider that not working. 

  • MonikaV
    MonikaV Member Posts: 201
    edited May 2013

    Good morning  ladies,

        Just popped in to wish a wonderful weekend. Live life to the fullest! XOXO

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    Stupidboob...sending good thoughts your way Smile

  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    Lovelyface, thank you for all the info.  I have not used any progesterone products on my skin.....i have no clue as to any risk factors for me getting bc or being triple negative....several years back I lost a lot of weight, am in my healthy zone, eat much healthier, exercise pretty regularly. It just happens sometimes.  I too consider myself triple negative since my progesterone is so low.  The oncologist says she will put me on hormones but everything I read says it MAY help me and I'm not sure with 5% if its worth all the side effects.  I need to research more about it I think. 

    Thank you again for your reply and enjoy the rest of this wonderful weekend.

    angie

  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    I too had the injections half way thru my MRI.   The first half was just the MRI and the second half was with the "dye" I think they called it.  I forget.  But definitely had IV and injection half way thru.

  • 5andcounting
    5andcounting Member Posts: 232
    edited May 2013

    Consider carefully before giving up mri. My mammon and ultrasound were all clear at 3 years. At 3.5 when it was time for routine mri they found local in breast tumor which they now think is new not recur. But it was small and would never have been seen without mri

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    Oh Ladies, I would never recommend anyone not have an MRI, oh absolutely.  My BC was not detected with a mammo, it was a clean mammo, but 6 months later I felt the lump.  In my case, it is the MRI.  In June I have an appointment with my surgeon, and this time around I am going to ask for an MRI.  For me, I just don't want to do it every 6 months anymore.  They had placed me in a high risk case because my other side also showed some abnormal epithelial cells, which may or may never become cancerous.

  • regbeach
    regbeach Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for the comments about my mom (the one who had the stroke last year and the decision to proceed with chemo).  It was postponed from last week to this week (mostly, because I thought she was getting a cold which she wasn't).  Just like last week, I am having second thoughts about the decision to proceed with chemo.  One minute I feel confident and hopeful that the side effects will be managable.  The next I think about how tired she is right after her hour long physical therapy...until she gets a root beer and a doughnut.  (yes, I know not healthy).  Or how she is tight after sitting on the couch for a few hours.  And try to imagine if she will even be able to stand up on the "tired" days of chemo.

    Plus, I mention chemo and that she will feel bad for a few days, but that it will go away, etc.  I explain that it is best to kill any cancer cells now, because she might get cancer in a place they can't treat it.  Remember she can't really speak, but has been able to understand more and more.   Her phrase is "I don't know" which sometimes comes out when she can't find the "right words" she wants to say. Of course, sometimes it is an appropriate "I don't know", too.

    When I talk about going for chemo, she says I don't know, then eventually makes a face and says no.  I don't know if she can make rational decisions.  Like, she decides if she wants to go the store or stay in the car, or if her clothes are dirty.  But, somedays she would skip therapy if I didn't convince her to go, and sometimes she is impulsive and touches her toothbrush to the bottom of the sink (yuck!).   My brother talks to mom and gets her to agree to trying at least one treatment to see how it goes.   Then, I ask to confirm and she is back to "I don't know."

    I can't imagine her anxiety about the whole thing (though with how much I've cried today, maybe I can).  I think of how I procrastinate and postpone and would do anything to get out of a colonoscopy...this is way more than that.  She went through fatigue issues when getting adjusted to anti-seizure meds.  She missed alot of therapy and her walking and strength suffered. 

    It is so hard to know what is right.  The doctor says because she is improving we should do it.  I know it is her best defense.  Sometimes my brother says- maybe, we should cancel it, if mom doesn't want it, she has been through so much in the last year, maybe we should let her enjoy the progress she has made, and just see what happens. 

    Back and forth we go.  And I still haven't told her sister.

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited May 2013

    Hi Regbeach,



    I've been following you and your Mom's plight, making a suggestion here and there and this morning it occurs to me that you might get some different kind of feedback from a psychotherapist who works with older people and people who have had strokes. Just a longish consult or two with someone warm who can approach your Mom's situation from a psychological and quality of life rather than a strictly medical point of view.



    Perhaps t he physical therapists can suggest a few psychotherapists whom they trust or "would send their own Mom to."



    Perhaps getting this kind of feedback from the right person (wise and kind) will give you a different kind of information, information that can lead to the best outcome for your Mom and peace of mind for you.



    Hugs,

    Peggy

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited May 2013

    Regbeach, I hardly know where to start.  You have such a huge decision to make.  I like Peggy's advice.  Also, keeping in mind, that if you decide to proceed with treatment, you can stop at anytime.  God bless you, girl.  Your mother is the luckiest woman in the world to have you looking out for her.  Praying for you, too.  Caregivers need care too.

  • regbeach
    regbeach Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2013

    Hi Navymom and PeggySull,

    Unfortunately, since we already postponed chemo one week we are getting to be just outside the "window" for best time to start.  So, I don't feel like we can postpone it to see someone else.  The onco. says when people speak of quality of life that they are talking about quality of life for the next 4 months or so.  If her walking declines terribly that might be longer I suppose- nothing to do with chemo directly.

    I am going to discuss the whole thing with mom again today.  She would go for pic line Tuesday afternoon, start steroid Tues, chemo Wed.  With the holiday, I can't even call the dr. today- not that I have anything specific to ask him. 

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    Re: thyroid.  I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer two years ago.  That was my introduction to cancer but BC is definately another world.  ALL of my bloodwork showed my thyroid was functioning.  Tests were inconclusive, biopsy was inconclusive, so we took half my thyroid out (the side that was swollen).  Even at that point, the surgeon told my husband that it didnt look cancerous.  Guess, what?  Pathology showed it was and I was back in for surgery two weeks after the first one to remove the rest of my thyroid.  

    So, don't write things off because bloodwork shows the thyroid is functioning.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited May 2013

    regbeach: I can only imagine how tough this is, on your mom and family. Wishing you all the best - you are an amazingly kind and considerate daughter. 

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited May 2013

    GowiththeFlow - thank you so much for sharing about thyroid.  It truly helps to get feedback like that.

    Rebeach - I will pray for the best outcome for your sweet mom.  She is lucky to have you, and my heart goes out to you for having to make this decision. 

  • JAN69
    JAN69 Member Posts: 947
    edited May 2013

    Gowiththeflow - Thanks so very much for your thyroid story.  It confirms what I've been thinking about my ultrasounds and biopsy.  I see specialist Friday.  J

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited May 2013

    Hi ladies. I am 5 days out from my latest surgery. This one was a lymph node transfer in Chicago. Signs are looking good that it is successful! I am saddened by news that a friend who just gave birth to a beautiful baby girl last monday found out she has a 10cm bc that has gone to the lymphs. She will have a pet scan and start chemo asap. Have not heard if its tn but it is a very aggressive one. She is 36yr old. Hope she comes to bco as it would be so great for support!



    Maggie

  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    Maggie,

    Glad you think your surgery was successful.....Hope it is....So so very sorry to hear about your friend, she has so much to deal with a newborn, it will be really hard for her.  I hope she has a good support team at home, because she will need some help with a newborn.  Sending positive thoughts and hoping all goes well for her.

    angie

  • regbeach
    regbeach Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2013

    For those following the story about the cheme decision for my mom.  First, thanks for reading and commenting.

    This AM (Monday) I talked about chemo again with mom. She was adamant with no. Then, I said she would still have to do radiation and she said no- which made me question her ability to decide all over again.  Most of the day I was thinking we would cancel it.  Then, I talked to an old friend who basically thought the original plan of trying at least one treatment seemed like something everyone had agreed to and why not do that.  My brother and I talked to mom again.  She tends to listen to him- like, she won't do extra exercises at home for me most of the time but will always do it for him. It's either his deep voice, or she's just tired of me telling her to do things all the time (take your medicine, move your foot, etc).

    Anyway, with both of us there, she agreed to do it.  Oddly, this time, she cried, which of course made me question all over again.  It seems no matter the decision the opposite one always seems better!  I say oddly- because the neurologists told us her personality and emotions would be affected by the stroke.  One specifically said she would never cry again.  She has laughed, she has been annoyed but through all of rehab and breast cancer news never one tear until today.  Maybe the situation finally sunk in, maybe her decision this time even with tears was made with a different clarity, a realization that chemo as bad as it might be, might be a good choice.   Or maybe she just couldn't take us bringing it up again and is doing it because my brother said the drs. and us think it is a good idea to try.

    Either way, it doesn't feel "better", it just feels surreal.   Of course, I googled one more thing and read horrible stories of side effects- numbness in feet, blah, blah.  And read that the steriod has a moderate interaction with her anti-coagulant- trying to tell myself that it is just for 3 days. 

    She is always tired when she goes to bed (silly, aren't we all), plus she takes her more of her anti-seizure med at night which might add to it.  Those are the moments when I think- My God, I hope she can still walk on the "fatigue days" and that there aren't more than a few in a row.  I thought her agreeing would feel better.  In the AM, I first felt bad (like wrong decision) when she was saying no, then I felt sort of relief that we wouldn't be dealing with chemo.  Then after talking to my friend, I felt like chemo was right again, then mom's tears...

    Steroid in the AM and IV line in the afternoon.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited May 2013

    regbeach - what a tough time emotionally for you with having to make the final decision for your Mom about chemo. It must be very confusing, exhausting and frustrating for your Mom when she cannot fully express herself. MY thoughts and prayers are with you both in the next few days.

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