Sunscreen: waterproof and paraben-free?
Hi all,
I didn't find a natural cosmetics forum (maybe we should have one!) so here goes. I'm looking for a non-smelly brand of paraben free sunscreen that is waterproof and doesn't turn my skin white.
I don't mind citrus smells, but almond/coconut etc. don't sit well with my nose.
Can anyone suggest a brand that I could buy on the web?
Thanks!
Claire in AZ
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I use babyganics. It is baby sunscreen but rated very well. Paraben and phthalate free. No smell to it and it is water proof. I am also signing up to be a consultant for lemongrass spa, organic and all natural personal care products and they have sunscreen too. Didn't order it yet, but it is also paraben and phthalate free.
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I have been a fan of Badger for the past few years but you may not like the smell, kind of a cocoa butter smell.
I am about to order Thinksport (http://www.amazon.com/Thinksport-Livestrong-Sunscreen-Resistant-ounces/dp/B004CDRUOA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_bt_1) this summer instead because the price of Badger went up. Has high ratings on Amazon and is only a 1 on EWG's sunscreen database (http://www.ewg.org) so looks really promising. Also saw that someone described the smell as "lemony" so that might work for you!
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And these brands don't turn your skin white when you use them? I used my organic sunblock lotion yesterday because I didn't have anything else, and ick, my legs and arms were white for hours... and residue left that was hard to scrub off and made my skin feel kind of dry besides.
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claire - Good topic. I am trying 'Climb on' mineral sunscreen. I'll let you know. I just put some on my arm, very mild smell and my arm does not look white. I got it at amazon - it is spf 30
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When I rub the babyganics into my kids it is white at first but once it is rubbed in we have no issues with leftover residue.
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Don't notice any "residue" with the Mission brand. It also doesn't sting/burn my eyes.
I recently tried this product from Aveeno, thinking it was fairly natural http://www.aveeno.com/product/aveeno-+protect+-+hydrate-+lotion+sunscreen+with+broad+spectrum+spf+70.do , & my eyes hurt(OK, they were tearing-I was crying). I couldn't rinse or flush the pain away. I did not get the product in my eyes when applying it & I did not touch my eyes. It was really weird. As if it was giving off fumes & maybe my sunglasses were holding the fumes next to my eyes.
Back to Mission & now I'm afraid to switch. I use to be able to get the Mission brand at CVS, no longer. Sports Authority carries it. Last time I ordered it online. The Mission brand was apparently developed by athletes.........
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'Climb on' mineral sunscreen report - No white skin. Fragrance, what tiny bit I could detect, went away in the first few minutes. Leaves a little bit of a greasy feel for a little while but that goes away too. I'll try it in the pool today. Didn't irritate my skin at all.
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Thanks, ladies....my dermatologist told me to use at least SPF 30 and that using SPF 15 is like throwing your $ away. I will look for the Mission brand and look into Climb On, too.
EWG rated the top five sunscreens but unfortunately all of them rated "white skin". Not a good look on me.!
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Hi All,
Not sure if this is helpful, but in these articles we provide a link to where to look up sunscreen options.
http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/sunscreen
http://community.breastcancer.org/livegreen/have-fun-in-the-sun-but-protect-your-skin/
Best,
The Mods
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I'm happy to hear there are paraben free sunscreens out there. I've gradually made the swtich to paraben free shower gel and moisturizer as well as lipstick and deodorant, and try one of thes paraben free products as well.
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I'm indoors most of the time but when I get moved and back out into the garden I plan to use clothing rather than a sunscreen that comes in a bottle or tube. According to this fact sheet put out by Southern University, ordinary denim jeans have an SPF of 90! I'll need to get a sun-shirt, because ordinarily I wear knit teeshirts and they aren't much protection at all, and a hat too. The clothing will cost a lot more upfront than sunscreen in a bottle, but it will last longer and not have to be reapplied periodically during the day.
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Curveball, Check out the stuff Rit makes for sun proofing your clothes. It washes in like dye and lasts for multiple washings. Of course, I also have a sun shirt and 2 hats. Sunday Afternoons makes a spf tee shirt, but it is pricy.
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Clothing might work best for those that live in the PNW???
May not be realistic for those in hotter climates & those of us who exercise outdoors. I use clothing for gardening(I actually call it yardwork & don't really like it). I live on Calif' central coast tho.
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I need sunscreen for my face, as well. A hat isn't gonna do it for me. Plus had moles removed from face in December and was told sunscreen is needed so small scars don't turn dark.
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I recently bought a tube of burts bees spf 30. It says non whitening but I haven't tried it yet. It was 75 percent off so I figured why not. All natural.
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As I was going on vacation, I had to pick up a sunscreen at the local store. I checked the drug store and Walmart and the only one I could find that was paraben free was "Banana Boat Natural Reflect" sunscreen. I could have sworn I saw it on the top rated sunscreen list on ewg, but it is not. It has a rating of "3" on the site, still not too bad. I'm using it as a daily moisturizer. It is thick white with no smell and rubs right in.
Still, I will probably try the Thinkstrong sunscreen. I just wonder where you ladies find your products. I can order on Amazon but would like to know if you are able to locate such products in local stores in your area.
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This is an interesting thread- thanks! I have made the switch to healthy eating, hormone-free dairy and meats, and sulfate-free products but haven't been on the lookout for paraben-free. I dimly remember that paraben is bad but hadn't thought much about it. Can anyone please elaborate for all of us not in the know?
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I did get the Thinksport one but it just arrived so I haven't tried it yet. I also ordered this one: http://www.amazon.com/Caribbean-Solutions-Kare-Biodegradable-Sunscreen/dp/B0017QNP1W and did try it already and it has a really nice feel to it, rubs in easily, not greasy, doesn't leave white, has a nice mild scent. Not sure how well it actually protects but no one got sunburned the one time we've used it.
Whole Foods has a lot of natural sunscreens if you prefer to buy from a store, but I find ordering them on Amazon tends to be cheaper. I haven't had much luck finding anything good in other local stores.
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The train of thought is that parabens can mimic estrogen. Some claim it is truth based, others don't think it is much cause for concern. I myself have been switching to paraben free products, including shower gel, shampoo, conditioner, hair gel, deodorant, mascara, lip gloss. I plan to purchase paraben free make-up such as foundation, blush, eyebrow pencil and eyeliner. I also want to look into paraben free hand soap/liquid, because that's something that's frequently used.
When you think about it, there are SO SO SO many products we use and rub into our bodies. Is it no wonder something like bc is so prevalent in our culture?
As for the above products I use, I also don't want to break the bank. I find reasonably priced products at Walgreens and sometimes Walmart. I use the ewg website to find out what products are paraben free with good ratings and often surf the web looking at prices. Mostly I like to buy in a local store when I can.
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There's a lot about paraben on the internet, of course. Here's one link that explains a bit...I also pasted part of the article here:
What Are Parabensand Do I Need to Worry About Them? | Real Simple
In the 1990s, parabens were deemed xenoestrogens―agents that mimic estrogen in the body. “Estrogen disruption” has been linked to breast cancer and reproductive issues. And in 2004 British cancer researcher Philippa Darbre, Ph.D., found parabens present in malignant breast tumors. As a result, experts in many countries are recommending limits on paraben levels in cosmetic products. What’s more, watchdog organizations worry that if parabens can be stored in the body, over time they could have a cumulative effect and pose a health risk.
But here’s the flip side: Critics of the British study point out that noncancerous tissue from healthy breasts wasn’t examined to see if parabens were also present there, and that the presence of parabens in tumors doesn’t prove that they caused the cancer. Other studies have shown parabens to have a very weak estrogenic effect. All this leads to concern about the unknown. Cook-Bolden tells her patients that “so far there’s no scientific evidence to support any link with any form of cancer.” Currently, the amount of parabens in any product is typically quite small. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the World Health Organization consider the chemicals safe at low levels.
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Sciencegal, parabens are a type of preservative used to inhibit mold & bacteria growth in many cosmetics & skin care products. There have been some studies showing parabens to mimic estrogen, and also parabens have been found in breast tumors. I think the research is still unclear & controversial -- from what I understand, there is no solid causative link with BC (yet) -- but I personally prefer to stick with more natural products whenever possible. (Not sure it has worked that well though, since I was avoiding parabens long before I got BC!!)
Edit: Oops, I guess the question was already answered while I was typing this!
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Thank you to both of you for the insight! That is really interesting. I love getting new info like this. Never really thought about parabens. You are right to kick them out of your lives!!
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One of the problems with ingredients, is that the amount in the particular product may be low. But the average woman probably uses 6-20 products daily that all contain the ingredient. I don't think I would be any happier if they found parabens in healthy breast tissue, because I don't think it's good for us to absorb and accumulate chemicals. We are exposed to enough things we don't know about. The Europeans seem to pay more attention. Many chemicals in our products are banned in Europe.
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I didn't know that about Europe and the USA...interesting.
I don't think most people are aware of all the products they use on their body on a daily basis. I know I never did before bc. But how can all those chemicals be good for you? People worry about the different medicines they swallow, the kinds of food they ingest and the kinds of cleaning products they use without often considering that they are rubbing all kinds of bad things into their skin which covers your whole body!
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Following up on the above comments, I was shocked to read that the average woman applies more than 500 chemicals to her body every day during her beauty routine! http://safecosmetics.org/article.php?id=1149
Here's another resource for truly natural and wholesome sunscreens, etc. http://www.healingfinds.com/
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I have heard that makeup is bad, but 500???? wow.
Thanks for sharing, I am going to peruse the makeup counter at Whole Foods on my day off tomorrow. -
dlb, great link! I've bookmarked it for future reference. That's exactly what I mean; most of us give no thought to the chemicals we slather on our skin each day.
One of my first changes in cosmetics after bc was with lip gloss. Since then, I've only used Burt's Bees, which actually turns out to be my favorite lip gloss I ever used. It just made sense to me to switch that out since it's on the lips and you're swallowing its contents as you lick your lips and go about daily living. It has a low hazard score on the skindeep website. I started using it because it was easily purchased at Walmart. When first diagnosed, I had absolutely no idea there was organic cosmetics anything.
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Burt's Bees Lemon Butter Cuticle Cream is the best! If you use it faithfully, it really makes a difference in your nails. And they have some other nice products. But did you know they're owned by Chlorox now?
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DermaMed 80% natural Sunblock is the one I use after trying out other 'turn you white' ones. Works very well and very waterproof. Never found a true 100% natural option.
When I was diagnosed, I threw out any remaining unhealthy makeup, soaps and cleaners in my home. I'd been heading that way after my daughter had been diagnosed with a rare type of ovarian cancer. (she is well and even has a new baby!) I decided it was a 'right of passage' for me to get rid of the 'iffy' stuff. What I've found is that the all natural makeups actually cost less than some of the other 'expensive' makeup I had. Granted, I don't use a lot of makeup, so not a huge cost to replace, nor have I found replacing shampoos and cleaners with natural products expensive, or less effective. Highly recommend www.ewg.org, that Indenial mentioned above. Even the health food stores carry some products that are not ideal and this is the site to get the real lowdown.
Great topic, ClairInez, thanks for starting it.
dlb823, whoooaaaa.. burt bees owned by chlorox? Too strange. Speaking of clorox... here's the best list I've found for all natural cleaning products- simple, cheap, natural https://www.aspenclean.com/natural_cleaning_recipes
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